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The Shadow
04-23-2011, 10:35 PM
Ok, here we go - here's what the Pack will do on Draft Day.

Ted Thompson will look in Round One in 5 areas - and choose the highest-rated player in one of those 5:
1. Offensive Line. The concerns here are with Chad Clifton (age & health) and Daryn Colledge (free agency).
If they are convinced that T.J. Lang can play tackle, they may plug him in at Left Guard for a year or two. If they
feel most comfy with him as a guard, they may be looking at a tackle in the draft.
If they do choose an offensive lineman, do not be shocked if it is Danny Watlins.
2. Defensive Line. Dumb Johnny Jolly screws things up. The Pack may have to now seriously look for a DE. Luckily,
this seems to be a good year for them. Even if they don't take one in the first round, look for one to be chosen early.
3. Wide Receiver. The concerns : Jone's free agency & Driver's age/production. If their highest-rated player at #32 is a
receiver, don't be surprised if they grab him.
4. Cornerback. Even though Williams, Woodson, & Shields are a solid trio, the depth behind - and Woodson's age - are
concerns. If their top-rated player is a CB, do not be shocked if it is a player that is not that well-regared in the draft
mags. It will be a 'Thompson player'.
5. OLB. Actually, the emergence of Zombo & the play of Walden + the return of Jones, make this much less of a hot
priority than is generally reported.

Look, in the end, for the selection of Thompson's highest-rated player in one of these 5 categories.

Lurker64
04-23-2011, 11:02 PM
They can just get away with going BPA in every round at any position where the guy would be at least competing for at least second string at his position.

RashanGary
04-23-2011, 11:12 PM
It could be anything other than QB, P, K, LS or specialist of any sort. Probably not an ILB either.


If I had to guess, I'd think OL, CB or WR and that's because I think that's where the talent is in our area of the draft.

Lurker64
04-23-2011, 11:33 PM
If I had to guess, I'd think OL, CB or WR and that's because I think that's where the talent is in our area of the draft.

Really hard to project where the talent is going to be late in the first though. If there's a run on QBs with teams trading back up into the first to get them, there could be fantastic value in our spot at really any position other than QB.

Correspondingly, OL, CB, and WR could be picked over by the time we pick. Since TT would not draft Brandon Harris (he has a height requirement for draftable CBs, and Harris is short of 5'10"), the only real CBs who would be "good value" would be Jimmy Smith who could easily go before we pick. The lower tier of TT-friendly CBs ( guys like Curtis Marsh, Curtis Brown, Davon House, Johnny Patrick, Brandon Burton, Aaron Williams, Chimdi Checkwa, and Ras-I Dowling) probably won't be exhausted before pick #64. WR, there's only two guys who are clearly top picks and we won't get either of them. The #3 WR spot is wide open, so I guess if you like Baldwin, Smith, Cobb, Hankerson, and Young a lot you'll probably have the shot to pick one of those guys. I think the top 5 OTs and Pouncey will be gone before we pick, so you'd have to pick a second tier guy.

Really, all Green Bay needs is to do a thorough job on their value board, and just take what's there at #32.

packrulz
04-24-2011, 05:24 AM
I think TT has a 50-50 shot at trading down, there is a lot of debate over where QB's like Locker, Mallett, & Dalton will be drafted, and the Packers are in a sweet spot for trading down and still getting a guy like Brooks Reed maybe.

ND72
04-24-2011, 04:14 PM
I think TT has a 50-50 shot at trading down, there is a lot of debate over where QB's like Locker, Mallett, & Dalton will be drafted, and the Packers are in a sweet spot for trading down and still getting a guy like Brooks Reed maybe.

I would love for Teddy to trade down if for a QB...could get a future #1 or #2!!!

VermontPackFan
04-24-2011, 05:22 PM
Ok, here we go - here's what the Pack will do on Draft Day.

5. OLB. Actually, the emergence of Zombo & the play of Walden + the return of Jones, make this much less of a hot
priority than is generally reported.

I agree Shadow. I liked what Zombo showed last year, he should only get better. Jones is in his make or break year, if he stays healthy there will be a competitive atmosphere for this position between these two and Walden.

VermontPackFan
04-24-2011, 05:36 PM
I belive OL will be our first pick imho...

swede
04-24-2011, 08:22 PM
I belive OL will be our first pick imho...

An investment in the O-line is an investment in Aaron Rodger's unconcussed brain.

King Friday
04-24-2011, 08:27 PM
Agree completely on the trading down theory. I feel pretty strongly that Thompson will trade OUT of the 1st round...unless he trades UP to grab someone with great talent who falls into the 20s. With the number of 2nd tier QBs in this draft and teams drafting early 2nd round with QB needs, I could easily see someone wanting to move up to the end of the 1st to take the guy they want. So I expect Thompson to move back since he likely will have the opportunity to do so. I think the odds actually might be even better than 50-50.

bobblehead
04-24-2011, 08:31 PM
An investment in the O-line is an investment in Aaron Rodger's unconcussed brain.

I thought we invested in a helmet.....

Lurker64
04-24-2011, 08:39 PM
I belive OL will be our first pick imho...

I think our first pick will have nothing to do with need, and everything to do with value.

packrulz
04-25-2011, 04:18 AM
Belichick has made "value" a household term in New England. When grading New England's drafts, it's almost more about future draft picks accumulated than current talent collected. Few might remember where great players are selected, but the Pats' ability to manipulate the draft board fascinates fans. Before the draft is even over, there is a clamor to discuss the promise of next year's picks.
While these tactics make draft night exciting, they can "mistake activity for accomplishment," as John Wooden used to say. The result of trading down is teams can receive many serviceable players instead of one really good one. Take the 2009 draft, when the Pats could have selected all-star Green Bay Packers linebacker Clay Matthews. Instead they ended up with Pat Chung, Darius Butler, Ron Brace and Sebastian Vollmer. Chung, Butler and Brace are serviceable while Vollmer has shown himself to be a respectable tackle, but none of the above is a game-changer like Matthews.

VermontPackFan
04-25-2011, 07:09 AM
I think our first pick will have nothing to do with need, and everything to do with value.

Agreed, but there still will be very good OL available at #32.

The Shadow
04-27-2011, 09:26 PM
Well, I think a defensive end - or Ryan Kerrigan-converted-to-OLB (Purdue) might just be the pick.

Tony Oday
04-28-2011, 12:20 AM
Going on a guess here for the draft all picks :)

1. WR
2. DE
3. OT
4. S
5. CB
6. RB
7. OLB
8. OG
9. QB

Lurker64
04-28-2011, 12:36 AM
Right now I get the sense that they either trade up to 25 or down from 32.

Tarlam!
04-28-2011, 01:05 AM
As I posted in the other "guess" thread, I don't see TT bringing in all 9 potential players. I say, he comes in with 5-6 players.

TennesseePackerBacker
04-28-2011, 02:04 PM
Right now I get the sense that they either trade up to 25 or down from 32.

Trade down is my hunch. It could be anything though. TT has one mean "poker face".

Smeefers
04-28-2011, 02:52 PM
I think he's going to trade away all his picks to move up to the number one selection and get Cam Newton. With a decent QB, we'll be able to get back to the SB and maybe, if we're lucky, win it.

TennesseePackerBacker
04-28-2011, 02:53 PM
I wonder if the Vikings will get their "QB of the future" today.

Zool
04-28-2011, 03:00 PM
They already have Joe Webb, why would they need another?

red
04-28-2011, 03:02 PM
I wonder if the Vikings will get their "QB of the future" today.

theres some thinking today that 5 qb's could go in the first 12 picks, so they may be drafting a guy like ponder

red
04-28-2011, 03:05 PM
As I posted in the other "guess" thread, I don't see TT bringing in all 9 potential players. I say, he comes in with 5-6 players.

you know, i think that's spot on. we already have a ton of depth and too many young talented guys on the team to the point where some will already be cut before the season starts. no point in wasting more picks

get louder at lambeau
04-28-2011, 03:07 PM
They should trade up to #1 and take Newton. Give the Panthers their next three 1st rounders, a few 2nds, and a large fries.

red
04-28-2011, 03:10 PM
They should trade up to #1 and take Newton. Give the Panthers their next three 1st rounders, a few 2nds, and a large fries.

i hope you're talking about the vikings and not us?

get louder at lambeau
04-28-2011, 03:24 PM
i hope you're talking about the vikings and not us?

Yep. He'd be a great icon and entertainer for them.

The Shadow
04-29-2011, 11:47 AM
yes.

The Shadow
04-29-2011, 11:48 AM
yes.yes.
Ok, here we go - here's what the Pack will do on Draft Day.

Ted Thompson will look in Round One in 5 areas - and choose the highest-rated player in one of those 5:
1. Offensive Line. The concerns here are with Chad Clifton (age & health) and Daryn Colledge (free agency).
If they are convinced that T.J. Lang can play tackle, they may plug him in at Left Guard for a year or two. If they
feel most comfy with him as a guard, they may be looking at a tackle in the draft.
If they do choose an offensive lineman, do not be shocked if it is Danny Watlins.
2. Defensive Line. Dumb Johnny Jolly screws things up. The Pack may have to now seriously look for a DE. Luckily,
this seems to be a good year for them. Even if they don't take one in the first round, look for one to be chosen early.
3. Wide Receiver. The concerns : Jone's free agency & Driver's age/production. If their highest-rated player at #32 is a
receiver, don't be surprised if they grab him.
4. Cornerback. Even though Williams, Woodson, & Shields are a solid trio, the depth behind - and Woodson's age - are
concerns. If their top-rated player is a CB, do not be shocked if it is a player that is not that well-regared in the draft
mags. It will be a 'Thompson player'.
5. OLB. Actually, the emergence of Zombo & the play of Walden + the return of Jones, make this much less of a hot
priority than is generally reported.

Look, in the end, for the selection of Thompson's highest-rated player in one of these 5 categories.

retailguy
04-29-2011, 01:04 PM
yes.yes.

I bow to your wizardry, but seriously 27 of the 32 picks came "in those 5 categories".

You'd have won about six dollars in Vegas on that post. ;)

Guiness
04-29-2011, 01:27 PM
theres some thinking today that 5 qb's could go in the first 12 picks, so they may be drafting a guy like ponder

:worship:Good Call!:worship:

RashanGary
04-29-2011, 01:40 PM
I bow to your wizardry, but seriously 27 of the 32 picks came "in those 5 categories".

You'd have won about six dollars in Vegas on that post. ;)

:lol:

This isn't your finest prediction Shadow, you've had some good ones.

The Shadow
04-29-2011, 04:10 PM
Times are rough; I'm taking what I can get!
In looking back at that post, it is a bit like predicting: "The Packers will draft someone" - isn't it?
LOL.

Tarlam!
05-01-2011, 01:13 AM
As I posted in the other "guess" thread, I don't see TT bringing in all 9 potential players. I say, he comes in with 5-6 players.

I have always admitted to not knowing what I'm talking about. This prediction proves that again! TT brings back 10 players. Can I get a hand removing this size 12 from my mouth??

Lurker64
05-01-2011, 01:22 AM
I have always admitted to not knowing what I'm talking about. This prediction proves that again! TT brings back 10 players. Can I get a hand removing this size 12 from my mouth??

No, you're just prescient. You see when you said "5-6 players" you meant "player" in the sense of "that guy's really a player" i.e. "he's really good." So of the 10 guys TT drafted, 5 or 6 of them are going to turn out to be really good. At least, so says Tarlam!

Tarlam!
05-01-2011, 01:35 AM
I like that, Lurker. I dunno what you do for a living, but have you ever considered Public Relations? Or, running for elected office? Or, selling real estate? :grin:

swede
05-01-2011, 09:42 AM
I have always admitted to not knowing what I'm talking about. This prediction proves that again! TT brings back 10 players. Can I get a hand removing this size 12 from my mouth??

Just thinking out loud....in a normal year you might have been right, Tar. Maybe. But, given the labor issues, having ten picks is a good way to get some guys into camp that might have UDFA before.

VermontPackFan
05-02-2011, 11:40 AM
Just thinking out loud....in a normal year you might have been right, Tar. Maybe. But, given the labor issues, having ten picks is a good way to get some guys into camp that might have UDFA before.

I thought that Saturday night as well Swede. Extra 6th & 7th round picks this year gives us the opportunity to sign players who normally would have been in the post draft free for all.

Smooth move TT, smooth move...

LP
05-02-2011, 02:12 PM
Can I get a hand removing this size 12 from my mouth??

Contact Rex Ryan. I'm sure he will know what to do.