OFFICIAL DRAFT DAY THREAD FOR THE SUPERBOWL CHAMPION GB PACKERS

[pbmax]

I think the monster money days at the top of the draft are over, even if nothing else comes of this work stoppage. IMO Newton ends up with less money than Bradford got.

I agree, IF a CBA is had before the picks need to be signed for camp.

[Bretsky]

he was just on the phone, his family threw a colts hat on him


DAM...to be honest I wanted Carimi to go to Indy or GB or NE....so he wins a title. Hoody has his two OT's for the next five to ten yrs now.

[Bretsky]

Guys I'd LOVE to fall to 32 still left

Costanzo
Ayers
Ingram
Bowers
Carimi
Wilkerson


to a lesser extent...Sherrod/Smith

ADDING Cameron Jordan to this list............odds are we see one at 32..............and odds are............TT chooses somebody else

[Bretsky]

ALL THOSE HOT CHIX AROUND HIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bretsky]

Tom Silverstein tweeting not to be surprised if GB trades up to get Ingram

[red]

piss there goes watkins, that sucks

[red]

Tom Silverstein tweeting not to be surprised if GB trades up to get Ingram

silverstein is fucking high

[pbmax]

How do you get into an altercation with a cab driver? Its ticking the payment as you go. How can there be any confusion? Is it a dispute about tipping?

[Bretsky]

CHRIS MORTENSEN TWEEET " You have to believe the Packers are sitting at the bottom licking their chops at Mark Ingram""

[Bretsky]

Eagles could go Danny Watkins (I'm hoping) or Carimi

[red]

CHRIS MORTENSEN TWEEET " You have to believe the Packers are sitting at the bottom licking their chops at Mark Ingram""

mortensen is fucking high

[Guiness]

I agree, IF a CBA is had before the picks need to be signed for camp.

I haven't a clue how that will possibly work out.

If they go to camp without a CBA, which is looking at least possible now, I guess he could get his big contract. Wow though, I can't see Carolina throwing that money away, knowing it pretty much unnecessary. I bet this is going to be an epic year for camp starting with a lot of players from the top of the draft not signed.

[red]

my guess is tt trades the first to a sucky team for their 3rd this year and their first next year witch will end up being a high first round pick

[Bretsky]

Silversteing still tweeting that TT is most likely debating whether to trade up with Seattle to jump ahead of Hoody and grab Ingram

Honestly, the way this board is falling I'd rather stay where we're at

[pbmax]

Is there anyone left looking for a RB ahead of the Packers? Eagles, Chiefs, Ravens, Bears, Jets, Steelers aren't.

Pats (Woodhead), Saints (injuries) and Seahawks (retreads) maybe?

[Bretsky]

mortensen is fucking high


the two best GB Packer beat writers both are convinced Ingram is one of the players TT has targeted; good beat writers get access to at least a bit of insider info

[pbmax]

NFL.com is taking the lockout seriously. The depth charts are blank. Chaos indeed.

[pbmax]

the two best GB Packer beat writers both are convinced Ingram is one of the players TT has targeted; good beat writers get access to at least a bit of insider info

Was McGinn the other?

[vince]

CHRIS MORTENSEN TWEEET " You have to believe the Packers are sitting at the bottom licking their chops at Mark Ingram""
I sure hope these guys don't know what they're talking about. My guess is they don't.

I just don't think he's special and TT's already found guys like Grant and Starks for 6th rounders. Running backs who can play are too common to go RB that high unless the guy's special.

[Lurker64]

If I'm trading up with Seattle, I think it's to get Cam Jordan, not Ingram.

I think the RB TT grabs is going to be a return guy, like Taiwan Jones (obviously not in the first round).

[Brando19]

If it is Ingram...what happens to Grant?

[pbmax]

Man, Andy Reid cannot pass up an offensive lineman to save his life. He should worry a bit about his D though.

[Bretsky]

Was McGinn the other?

yup
McGinn predicted Ingram to be our pick

[MJZiggy]

Man, Andy Reid cannot pass up an offensive lineman to save his life. He should worry a bit about his D though.

Can't pass up a hamburger either.

[Bretsky]

If it is Ingram...what happens to Grant?

he plays one more year, turns 29, and is traded or leaves

[pbmax]

Just don't try to trade with the Chiefs, Pioli will squeal like a pig to the mothership back in Boston.

[Bretsky]

ESPN guys pounding the table for Mark Ingram

[pbmax]

he plays one more year, turns 29, and is traded or leaves

Wildcat formation with no Rodgers, 3 FBs and 3 TBs.

[Bretsky]

I think off my list left Cam Jordan would be my top pick for GB

[Bretsky]

ok....scratch that off............lol

[pbmax]

Can't pass up a hamburger either.

True. He could play 1 and 3 technique together now.

[Brando19]

he plays one more year, turns 29, and is traded or leaves

I guess if it is Ingram...Jackson is gone...or maybe Kuhn.

[Guiness]

Watkins goes a lot higher than any of us thought he would. In our mocks, many of us complained #32 was too high for him.

[Lurker64]

I think off my list left Cam Jordan would be my top pick for GB

Wilkerson's still a pretty good pick for us. More of a Pickett type 5-tech than a Jenkins type 5-tech, but Neal is a Jenkins type 5-tech.

[Bretsky]

WISHLIST LEFT........although as Vince pointed out Ayers might not be ideal fit

7 picks before us

Ayers
Ingram
Bowers
Carimi
Wilkerson

[Guiness]

a bit surprised JJ Watt was chosen before Cameron Jordan...........

Quite a lot ahead before Jordan was finally taken!

[Bretsky]

Wilkerson's still a pretty good pick for us. More of a Pickett type 5-tech than a Jenkins type 5-tech, but Neal is a Jenkins type 5-tech.

Ingram
Bowers
Carimi
Wilkerson


HOW MANY OF THESE FOUR DO YOU THINK WILL BE LEFT SEVEN PICKS FROM NOW ?????????????????????????

[Bretsky]

who think TT is talking to Seattle ??????????????

[pittstang5]

Ok, someone has to talk me into Ingram. He's the only highly rated player left that the Packers could take that I don't like.

[pbmax]

Read an article the other day about the tremendous success Ozzie Newsome has in the 20s with his drafts. Going to be interesting to see what he picks. If its not a WR, it will probably pan out.

[DonHutson]

I guess if it is Ingram...Jackson is gone...or maybe Kuhn.

Grant and Starks played what, 10 games combined last year. I wouldn't worry about hurting either of their feelings by drafting Ingram.

Keep 'em all. Grant only has one year left. Starks isn't making anything. At this point, Ingram won't make that much either.

[Bretsky]

Adam Scheffler reports Seattle trying to trade back with da Pack

[RashanGary]

I was starting to hope for Cam Jordan

[RashanGary]

Adam Scheffler reports Seattle trying to trade back with da Pack

Carimi

[pbmax]

Adam Scheffler reports Seattle trying to trade back with da Pack

Make Schneider give them the (previous) hometown discount.

[Bretsky]

my mistress...Erin Andrews...is tweeting with Jason Wilde !!!

[Tony Oday]

Mallet? Is he just done now?

[pbmax]

If TT stays at 32, who is left for BPA?

[RashanGary]

Told ya :) haha

[Bretsky]

OMG.............ALL HAIL JUSTIN HARRELL THE POSTER WHO CALLED THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kudos dude

[3irty1]

Props to JH, he called Carpenter.

[Bretsky]

If TT stays at 32, who is left for BPA?

These are all guys who were projected to go by now

Ingram RB
Bowers DE
Carimi OT/OG
Wilkerson DE

[Bretsky]

Props to JH, he called Carpenter.

yes, serious props

[vince]

Told ya :) haha
well done.

[Fred's Slacks]

Good call JH. If No hadn't taken Jordan, I was hoping for a trade up. Now, lets see who drops. Alot of similar talent out there right now.

[Bretsky]

Baltimore could really use CB

[RashanGary]

OMG.............ALL HAIL JUSTIN HARRELL THE POSTER WHO CALLED THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kudos dude

Thanks man, every year I get these guys, I read the info and I just know they're better than the media is portraying them. Alualu and R Matthews last year. Carpenter this year. I wanted to get it out there before the draft and make sure everyone said I was nuts so I could prove I'm good at reading this stuff.

[Bretsky]

Dear Lord,

PLEASE don't let the Bears select Gabe Carimi

[swede]

Our first mock:

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD - VON MILLER

6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon - A. J. Green

7. San Francisco - mraynrand - Prince Amukamara, CB from Nebraska.

8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD - NICK FAIRLEY, DT, Auburn

9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding - Robert Quinn DE/ OLB UNC

10. Washington Redskins - pbmax - Cam Newton, QB, Auburn.

11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan - California DE Cameron Jordan.

12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission - Julio Jones

13. Detroit Lions - Gave - Anthony Castonzo

14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky - Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri

15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1 - DE, JJ Watt

16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell - Ryan Kerrigan

17. New England Patriots - SavedByGrace - Justin Houston

18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace - Muhammed Wilkerson

19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig - OLB Akeem Ayers, UCLA.

20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan - Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa.

21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64 - Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1* - Tyron Smith, OT, USC

23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky* - Nate Solder, OT, Colorado

24. New Orleans Saints - packrulz - Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State

25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz - Jake Locker, QB, Washington

26. Baltimore Ravens - mission* - Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado

27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin - Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland

28. New England Patroits - Swede - Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State

29. Chicago Bears - Swede - MIke Pouncey, OG, Florida

30. New York Jets - Packerpro42 - Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor

31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede - Brandon Harris, CB, Miami

32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama

[pbmax]

Mallet? Is he just done now?

I would love to know what everyone seems to know about his drug use. Everyone says they are convinced but he is still denying it. PEDs perhaps?

[Bretsky]

Thanks man, every year I get these guys, I read the info and I just know they're better than the media is portraying them. Alualu and R Matthews last year. Carpenter this year. I wanted to get it out there before the draft and make sure everyone said I was nuts so I could prove I'm good at reading this stuff.


can I still call you nuts ? :)

[Bretsky]

twitter notes Chiefs looking to trade down as well; silverstein notes it'd take a 3rd to get there

[RashanGary]

I find the best athletes in the draft, then I weed out the ones who aren't productive. Then I look to see if they're all conference (anyone who's not all conference isn't going to be all anything in the NFL unless there happens to be another superstar in the same conference). Then I look to see if I can find comments by coaches. Then I look for comments by people who played against them. Then I read the McGinn write up. Then I end up with one or two guys who pass every test (and if you look, the tests I'm putting them through are all meaningful). This year it was Carpenter. I didn't read it from a scout, didn't read it at a site. I put the facts together independently and came up with an independent opinion on him that didn't match the media write ups.

[King Friday]

Damn...pick 26 already...fast draft

[Bretsky]

Baltimore trading, but with who ????

[red]

balimore is trading

[3irty1]

I still want Houston for the Pack. Looks like I'll get my wish unless the Jets poop on my cereal.

[Fred's Slacks]

I find the best athletes in the draft, then I weed out the ones who aren't productive. Then I look to see if they're all conference (anyone who's not all conference isn't going to be all anything in the NFL). Then I look to see if I can find comments by coaches. Then I look for comments by people who played against them. Then I read the McGinn write up. Then I end up with one or two guys who pass every test (and if you look, the tests I'm putting them through are all meaningful). This year it was Carpenter. I didn't read it from a scout, didn't read it at a site. I put the facts together independently and came up with an independent opinion on him that didn't match the media write ups.

Good work man. Sounds like fun. Wish I had the time.

[Bretsky]

COREY LIUGET IS STILL OUT THERE ???

[pbmax]

COREY LIUGET IS STILL OUT THERE ???

No. He went to the Chargers.

[red]

COREY LIUGET IS STILL OUT THERE ???

no, he went a long time ago

[Bretsky]

I still want Houston for the Pack. Looks like I'll get my wish unless the Jets poop on my cereal.


dude drugged out on the testing; doubtful TT takes that

[3irty1]

COREY LIUGET IS STILL OUT THERE ???

Nope went at 18

[3irty1]

dude drugged out on the testing; doubtful TT takes that

Remember when Raji did too? And when Clay tested for Roids?

[Bretsky]

what the hell is going on ??????????????????????

[Bretsky]

Remember when Raji did too? And when Clay tested for Roids?


no.....when did Clay test for Roids ??

[RashanGary]

Bowers, Carimi

[Brando19]

This is crazy...someone make a pick!!!!!

[Bretsky]

wasn't that a false report ???

[Fred's Slacks]

Remember when Raji did too? And when Clay tested for Roids?

False rumors. The Houston thing sounds legit.

[Bretsky]

Bowers, Carimi


Bowers just seemed like he has superstar talent

[pbmax]

Remember when Raji did too? And when Clay tested for Roids?

Those were reported false by draft time though. The two who were released this week timed correctly with the official list that went to teams from the League.

[Bretsky]

Baldwin off the board; pretty solid pick for KC

[Bretsky]

what in the hell is Baltimore doing ?

[Brando19]

Bowers just seemed like he has superstar talent

I'm afraid of his injury.

[pbmax]

Chiefs reach after not being able to trade down?

[Bretsky]

Gotta pray for Carimi pick soon........

[pbmax]

Baldwin off the board; pretty solid pick for KC

What is his deal? SI has him with the default rating of 1.0 and no background.

[King Friday]

Bears screwed over the Ravens...lol

[swede]

Anyone know anything about that acid rock song in that Mustang commercial? It drives me crazy that I don't know if it's vintage or fresh retro.

[Brando19]

New Orleans traded up in New England's spot...bye bye Ingram.

[Tony Oday]

Uh Oh The Pats traded...

[pbmax]

What is his deal? SI has him with the default rating of 1.0 and no background.

Apparently its just a bad link on SI's page.

[Bretsky]

Jimmy Smith there makes sense; great talent. He needs strong characters like Ray Lewis to set him in his place

[3irty1]

Carimi is looking for condos in Chicago right now.

[Guiness]

no.....when did Clay test for Roids ??
He didn't - there were some rumours, especially around the time Cushings was getting in trouble, but never anything substantial. Mostly people looking at him when he got to USC and when he was drafted, and saying 'Impossible!!!'

[Fred's Slacks]

Ingram to NO?

[Bretsky]

DANG...........NO TRADED UP

Ingram or Bowers ???

Wonder what Hoody got ??

[Bretsky]

ADAM SCHEFFLER just noted Ingram goin to NO and if he didn't GB was prolly going to take him out at 32
F'ckin Hoody

[pbmax]

jasonjwilde Jason Wilde
Sarah Quick informs us we'll have the pick, Ted Thompson and the offensive/defensive coordinator depending on the pick. Will Tweet pressers.

[Fred's Slacks]

Carimi, Bowers, Wilkerson and 3 more picks till we're up...

[Tony Oday]

Aaron Williams please.

[King Friday]

Glad Ingram is gone...I never really wanted him. He's a good player, but I'd rather have someone with more speed.

[Bretsky]

WOW
Patriots trade #28 for the saints second round pick and their 1st rounder next year

[King Friday]

Wilkerson me please

[DonHutson]

Worst case, Sherrod. Not bad.

[RashanGary]

Jimmy Smith there makes sense; great talent. He needs strong characters like Ray Lewis to set him in his place

Yep. Good landing zone

[Tony Oday]

OR CMIII's clone ;)

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/draft/prospect?prospectId=335014

[Bretsky]

Mort/Wilde/Silverstein..............all the writers noting NO knew they needed to get ahead of GB for Ingram


AND THE SAINTS ARE CONTENDERS

CAMERON JORDAN
MARK INGRAM

WOW

[Bretsky]

fuck fuck fuck
don't do it Bears
fuck

one wish......

[Bretsky]

OR CMIII's clone ;)

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/draft/prospect?prospectId=335014

ok with this also

[RashanGary]

Bowers/Carimi/Sherrod for me.

[Bretsky]

Wilkerson
Carimi
Bowers

Trade Down

I don't know who to like better between Wilkerson or Bowers

[Bretsky]

Bowers/Carimi/Sherrod for me.

I can't believe Wilkerson is still there

I'd be ok with Sherrod.....him and Jimmy Smith were on my first ok list about an hour ago

[Tony Oday]

THE BEARS STILL SUCK!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avRHH9uAL4Q

[Lurker64]

Wilkerson/Heyward/Carimi/Sherrod. Any of those four.

I can't see TT taking Bowers in the first given how badly the Justin Harrell pick went for TT. Bowers knee is scary.

[Bretsky]

Worst case, Sherrod. Not bad.

yup

[pbmax]

fuck fuck fuck
don't do it Bears
fuck

one wish......

Seems like predestination doesn't it?

[King Friday]

Wilkerson/Sherrod for me

[Lurker64]

Seems like predestination doesn't it?

Well, we took the OL from Illinois by way of Iowa last year and the Bears get back at us by taking the OL from Wisconsin by way of Wisconsin to get us back?

[Bretsky]

FUCK ME

[red]

lol B, sucks to be you lol

[imscott72]

Damn....Effin Bears..

[swede]

I can learn to hate him.

[vince]

I'd have been ecstatic to have jumped up to get Carimi. TT knows best.

[red]

damn, there's gonna be some nice talent there for us

[Guiness]

Good call Brestky - or, I guess, a call you wish you didn't have to make

[swede]

damn, there's gonna be some nice talent there for us

Yeah, but Ponder is gone.

[Lurker64]

Yeah, but Ponder is gone.

Fuck, now I hope they cancel the season.

[Bretsky]

I'm way on board for trading this dam pick; pick up a third or early 4th. Somebody still must want a QB. After seeing Hoody hand the Saints Ingram and then the
fucking Bears draft my favorite Badger my morale is shut down

[RashanGary]

Waldo has pass rush athletic numbers for the last 5 years or so. Guys who don't jump well (explosion) are almost NEVER respectable pass rushers unless they are insanely fast. You have to either have raw explosion (to go through people) or raw speed (to go around people). Those guys tend to have a go-to move that everyone has to respect and they can build their pass rush game off of it. It's amazing how few pass rushers are any good without either one or the other.

Wilkerson is not fast and is the least explosive 5 tech prospect out there. He has decently quick feet, but he's no edge rusher and his explosion is horrible. I think he's going to be blah. Normally I don't go just off of numbers, but since pass rush is so dependent on them, I'm going to go with the odds here and say he stinks. Could be wrong, but that's where I'm sliding my money.

[pbmax]

Anyone want to bet that it was the Patriots (and Bedard) that put out the Ingram to Packers rumors?

[King Friday]

poop

[Bretsky]

Wilkerson
Carimi
Bowers

Trade Down

I don't know who to like better between Wilkerson or Bowers

10 minutes later

Bowers with an injury concern is left

Then it's next tier IMO

[swede]

On the Clock

[red]

Anyone want to bet that it was the Patriots (and Bedard) that put out the Ingram to Packers rumors?

yeah, has TT ever leaked out what he was thinking? i don't think there was anyway we were going to draft him

[King Friday]

yeah...trading down wouldn't be a bad option here...nothing stands out head and shoulders at this point.

[Bretsky]

Anyone want to bet that it was the Patriots (and Bedard) that put out the Ingram to Packers rumors?

doubtful; Silverstein and McGinn have been on this for a while

[pbmax]

Schefter says Wikerson to be a Jet. Now go eat a damn snack.

[red]

bowers at this point is very intriguing

[imscott72]

We're on the clock..Who's it gonna be?

[get louder at lambeau]

Kyle Rudolph please.

[swede]

commercial

[Bretsky]

trade down

I gotta think the pick is Sherrod if they stay here....not overly excited about that .....which probably makes it a sure thing.

[jmbarnes101]

I'm way on board for trading this dam pick; pick up a third or early 4th. Somebody still must want a QB. After seeing Hoody hand the Saints Ingram and then the
fucking Bears draft my favorite Badger my morale is shut down

I freakin agree. Not that we need Ingram but you can never have too much talent. The Bears pick makes me sick! If they take John too I'll quit football forever.

[imscott72]

Trade down..

[red]

bowers
sherrod
williams
reed
ayers

some good talent here

[Bretsky]

bowers at this point is very intriguing

I gotta agree here

Bowers has to have a fuck the nfl attitude right now to prove everybody wrong

[RashanGary]

Damn, I didn't love those two guys anyway.

[DonHutson]

Sherrod and safety, or Bowers and a swing for the fences?

Probably Sherrod, but I'd take a shot on Bowers if the med staff passed his knee.

[pbmax]

yeah, has TT ever leaked out what he was thinking? i don't think there was anyway we were going to draft him


doubtful; Silverstein and McGinn have been on this for a while

Possible Bretsky. But the Harrell draft coverage might be instructive. McGinn didn't get confirmation about Revis being the top rated stolen with the 14th pick until after the draft. I do think he suspected it though, prior to the pick.

[Bretsky]

GB might even go CB here........but I vote trade the dam thing away and let's come back tomorrow...lol

[pbmax]

Schefter whiffs. But he did get Miller earlier.

[vince]

doubtful; Silverstein and McGinn have been on this for a while
Silverstein and McGinn also said the Packers were targeting Crabtree right before passing on him a couple years ago.

[RashanGary]

Sherrod, Bowers Austin?

[Bretsky]

Aaron Williams ?
Sherrod ?
Bowers ?

Trade ?

[swede]

Someone in the war room has grabbed a book...are they trading?

[jmbarnes101]

Even after winning the Super Bowl we still get lost for commercials! ESPN sucks!

[Guiness]

yeah...trading down wouldn't be a bad option here...nothing stands out head and shoulders at this point.

I dunno. Sherrod. Maybe our poll winner, Ijalana?

[Bretsky]

Mike Mayock predicating GB wants to get out of here

Ayers
Reed
Sherrod

he thinks if they hae to stay here

[RashanGary]

GB might even go CB here........but I vote trade the dam thing away and let's come back tomorrow...lol

Yeah. It's the point in the draft where we could get a total TT shocker too.

[RashanGary]

Raji looks smooth in coverage.

[pbmax]

And 13th consecutive commercial during Packers 1st round selection.

[Bretsky]

Silverstein and McGinn also said the Packers were targeting Crabtree right before passing on him a couple years ago.

I think TT confirmed he was considering Crabtree except Raji fell in their laps

[King Friday]

If you pick...I think you have to take OL...Clifton is a liability at this point, because you don't know when he'll go down to injury.

[RashanGary]

An interesting tidbit. . . According to Waldo, BJ Raji is the most explosive player in the NFL (according to combine numbers) for what that's worth.

[Bretsky]

Mayock.....GB looking to get out

[RashanGary]

I'm ready to be shocked. TT is the most unconventional GM in the NFL. QB.

[swede]

It doesn't seem that anyone is left that a team would trade up for.

[King Friday]

Don't the Packers technically have until tomorrow to make this pick? lol

[channtheman]

Guess it takes winning the Super Bowl for ESPN not to cut to a commercial when our pick comes up.

[pbmax]

Silverstein and McGinn also said the Packers were targeting Crabtree right before passing on him a couple years ago.

They did say he was the highest ranked player (at least McGinn did). Picking Raji was deciding the two were close enough to go need over value.

[Bretsky]

what happens if time expires ????? We can submit anytime overnight...........lol

[channtheman]

Sherrod today and Brooks Reed tomorrow please.

[RashanGary]

Mayock.....GB looking to get out

That would be so anti-climatic, but fine, in TT we trust.

[Bretsky]

Predicting Sherrod here; take it to the bank

[swede]

< 1 min.

[channtheman]

what happens if time expires ????? We can submit anytime overnight...........lol

I guess we could, hahahaha!

[Tony Oday]

Pick is in!?

[imscott72]

It's Sherrod..

[Fred's Slacks]

Bowers?

[RashanGary]

WOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

[swede]

Well well

[red]

o-line, fixed for the forseable future

[Guiness]

/cue Jeopardy music

[Tony Oday]

So now we trade up to take Reed :)

[Gunakor]

Not bad!

[Bretsky]

Predicting Sherrod here; take it to the bank

yup

[King Friday]

Decent pick...you ain't making a splash at #32.

[red]

good pick we have our bookend tackes for the next 12-15 years

[imscott72]

Does he start right away? Can't wait to see him out there..

[Tony Oday]

ThanksTed

[Tony Oday]

Does he start right away? Can't wait to see him out there..

NO! God no....that means Clifton goes down...NO

[swede]

I picked Sherrod in the mock...for Hoody.

[pbmax]

Better concussion protection than any helmet can provide.

[Brando19]

First black offensive lineman that'll be starting for us in a while.

[Jimx29]

Better concussion protection than any helmet can provide.

great point

[pbmax]

NO! God no....that means Clifton goes down...NO

Calm down Tony. Colledge could leave and Bulaga might go LG for a year to get the footwork down on the left side. :D

[RashanGary]

Sherrod didn't come from a pro-style system. Most high picked lineman come from schools where there isn't so much projection. I don't want to say he's a project, but like Gruden said, he doesn't share their vision, but he does have size and athletic ability. . . .

TT and company do their homework. This guy has LT feet. It will be interesting to see how he pans out. He wasn't as proven as the other guys.

[mission]

I'm ok with it. That was my couch prediction once we finally got to 32. Very safe, smart, not-very-exciting pick.

It's nice to finally have a black o-linemen for racial equality's sake. :D

[Bretsky]

Guys I'd LOVE to fall to 32 still left

Costanzo
Ayers
Ingram
Bowers
Carimi
Wilkerson


to a lesser extent...Sherrod/Smith

It was interesting that about 90 minutes ago I ID'd these guys as potentials to fall to us who were projected to be gone but might fall

gotta at least be ok with this getting what is hopefully our LT of the future after this year in Sherrod

Bummer that Carimi, Wilkerson, and Ingram came off the board shortly before our pick

[DonHutson]

Badger homerism aside, I'm happy Sherrod fell and Carimi didn't. With Carimi, Bulaga needs to turn into a LT. Now you've got some flexibility to see which of the two pans out there.

[Jimx29]

I didn't catch the beginning of tonight's draft. I hear Goodall was pretty heavily booed, but I can't find any video of it. was it as bad as I hope it is? :p

[jmbarnes101]

I know very little about him other than he seems intelligent. Is this kid good? Any info on him?

[pbmax]

packers.com

Ted coming down to wow the public with his speechifying.

[Carolina_Packer]

Considering what happened in front of them on the board, this was a solid pick, without having to move up and pay a price. If Clifton can hang on a couple of more years, or perhaps one more, then this guy might be able to sit for a year and develop.

I like this video highlight package of Derek Sherrod: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju-J_2oajto&feature=fvwrel

[Scott Campbell]

Does that make our last 5 first rounders trench picks?

[Brando19]

I didn't catch the beginning of tonight's draft. I hear Goodall was pretty heavily booed, but I can't find any video of it. was it as bad as I hope it is? :p

It wasn't horrible, but he was booed. He got up to the mic and said something like, "I hear ya."

[pbmax]

I didn't catch the beginning of tonight's draft. I hear Goodall was pretty heavily booed, but I can't find any video of it. was it as bad as I hope it is? :p

Probably not as bad as it could have been, but loud enough that he acknowledged it.

[Bretsky]

Sherrod didn't come from a pro-style system. Most high picked lineman come from schools where there isn't so much projection. I don't want to say he's a project, but like Gruden said, he doesn't share their vision, but he does have size and athletic ability. . . .

TT and company do their homework. This guy has LT feet. It will be interesting to see how he pans out. He wasn't as proven as the other guys.


We are the world champs and have people coming back so we may not need much help. We took insurance for 2011/2012 and a guy who need to contribute later in his career. I agree he's a project though.

Deep down we all hope GB drafts a starter but we have isurance for the future

[3irty1]

Sherrod is a nice pick. Super athlete, super feet, super long arms. Hopefully he's not too long that he can't play LG this year and slide over when Clifton hangs it up.

[swede]

I know very little about him other than he seems intelligent. Is this kid good? Any info on him?

Derek Sherrod

This young man is one of the more experienced tackles in the nation. 2010: An All-SEC selection in 2009 and 2010, He helped pave the way for the Bulldogs to lead the SEC and finish ninth nationally in rushing with 227.6 yards per game. This season, He has helped Mississippi State bulldoze its way to 219.3 rushing yards per game, which ranks 15th nationally. He has helped the top 25 Bulldogs achieve their most wins since 2007. The team captain has started 34 games and appeared in 46 contests for his career. He played in 10 games as a freshman in 2007, started 10 games as a sophomore, and started 12 games as a junior. He stands at 6'5'' and 305 pounds, but he has great agility for a man of his size. He is fundamentally sound, but struggled slightly against elite pass-rushers--whom he will see plenty of in the NFL. He has been a staple at left tackle for Mississippi State.

NFL Combine Results
40-Yard Dash—5.2
Bench press--23
Vertical jump—28.0
Broad jump—8’1
Three-cone drill—7.43
20-yard shuttle—4.63

[Bretsky]

FYI
here is the lowdown on why the draft delay

Baltimore made a trade with Chicago; Baltimore confirmed with the league but time expired before the Bears confirmed with the league. Bears were trying to trade up to pick Carimi but didn't confirm in time with the league

[pbmax]

http://twitter.com/#!/ClayMatthews52/status/63810554359316480

ClayMatthews52

Protect the franchise!!

4 minutes ago

[pbmax]

Derek Sherrod

This young man is one of the more experienced tackles in the nation. 2010: An All-SEC selection in 2009 and 2010, He helped pave the way for the Bulldogs to lead the SEC and finish ninth nationally in rushing with 227.6 yards per game. This season, He has helped Mississippi State bulldoze its way to 219.3 rushing yards per game, which ranks 15th nationally. He has helped the top 25 Bulldogs achieve their most wins since 2007. The team captain has started 34 games and appeared in 46 contests for his career. He played in 10 games as a freshman in 2007, started 10 games as a sophomore, and started 12 games as a junior. He stands at 6'5'' and 305 pounds, but he has great agility for a man of his size. He is fundamentally sound, but struggled slightly against elite pass-rushers--whom he will see plenty of in the NFL. He has been a staple at left tackle for Mississippi State.

NFL Combine Results
40-Yard Dash—5.2
Bench press--23
Vertical jump—28.0
Broad jump—8’1
Three-cone drill—7.43
20-yard shuttle—4.63

Sounds like a RT to me.

[Tony Oday]

Our Line is going to be awesome....I mean they have to go against CMIII, Raji and the boys every practice!

[swede]

Sounds like a RT to me.

He's not an elite athlete, that's for sure.

(Other than being a first round NFL pick, of course.)

[Deputy Nutz]

I think he is going to have a place on this team, and will most likely backup at both tackle spots for 2011, doesn't look like a guard to me. Athletic and can move. Sure he has to learn to protect in a pro style offense but it was a safe pic. Unfortunatley the Packers had no use for Bowers from Clemson. I seriously can't believe that 32 team passed on a guy because of torn cartilledge in the knee. Even if the guy missed 2011 he would still provide pass rushing and run defense from the 7 tech position for years. Best guy remaining.

[imscott72]

Calm down Tony. Colledge could leave and Bulaga might go LG for a year to get the footwork down on the left side. :D

Yea anything could happen that could cause Sherrod to start immediately. Ideally of course I'd like to see him backup for a year, but you never know..

[packers11]

He's not an elite athlete, that's for sure.

(Other than being a first round NFL pick, of course.)

agreed... 225 only 23 times??? ehhh idunno, thats kind of low for a man his size... I mean 225 isn't everything, but aren't o-line supposed to be in the 30's?

[gbgary]

i'm glad we went o line. more/better protection for AR.

[Tony Oday]

Yea anything could happen that could cause Sherrod to start immediately. Ideally of course I'd like to see him backup for a year, but you never know..

Scary!!! Stay on the bench! ;)

[digitaldean]

I am surprised Bowers is still around. That bone on bone knee issue would be enough of a red flag for some teams.

As for Dalton, I am a bit surprised he wasn't snagged by Seattle. Hasselbeck is going to be gone and he would be a good QB for them.

I thought Carimi was going to be gone by the time we picked.

Gruden was insufferable at times tonight. That guy has to get a coaching gig soon just get him off of ESPN.

[mission]

I'm in the best-5-on-the-field camp... someone can play LG assuming Cliffy still has it.

[red]

this is a total TT pick

team captain and leader, smart high effort guy

sound like any of tt's other draft picks? or all of them?

[pittstang5]

Found this:

Was one of 16 players to win the storied National Football Foundation and College Hall of Fame (NFF) Award, which includes a post-graduate $18,000 scholarship. Earned his degree in business with a 3.54 GPA. Is the third Bulldog to win the award and the first since 1989. Team leader voted a captain in 2010. A four-year member of the M-Club, MSU's student-athlete community service organization, he has spent considerable time with the youth of Mississippi. He has served breakfast at Sudduth Elementary School, participated in Sudduth's Kids Fair and read to local students to promote literacy. He has also organized a Thanksgiving food drive.

TT pick all the way.

[Bretsky]

yup....and we're good enough that we don't need to draft a guy in round one that needs to play...it's scary to say that though

dam...two years ago....Saints Super Bowl Champs.....next year.....after their two additions...gotta consider them a serious serious SB contender again

[Bretsky]

Patriots now have five picks in rounds two and three tomorrow and two first round picks next year

[vince]

yup....and we're good enough that we don't need to draft a guy in round one that needs to play...it's scary to say that though

dam...two years ago....Saints Super Bowl Champs.....next year.....after their two additions...gotta consider them a serious serious SB contender again
They're gonna have to figure out how to stop the pass, which Ingram doesn't help them with.

[vince]

Patriots now have five picks in rounds two and three tomorrow and two first round picks next year
Going into this year's draft, they only had 5 picks next year. Hoodie'll probably pick up a few more yet.

[Smidgeon]

agreed... 225 only 23 times??? ehhh idunno, thats kind of low for a man his size... I mean 225 isn't everything, but aren't o-line supposed to be in the 30's?

Long arms. It's harder to lift 225 with long arms than it is with short arms... At least, that's what I've heard.

[Bretsky]

They're gonna have to figure out how to stop the pass, which Ingram doesn't help them with.

the DE is a very nice prospect with some pass rushing skills which should help some

[Fritz]

Sherrod didn't come from a pro-style system. Most high picked lineman come from schools where there isn't so much projection. I don't want to say he's a project, but like Gruden said, he doesn't share their vision, but he does have size and athletic ability. . . .

TT and company do their homework. This guy has LT feet. It will be interesting to see how he pans out. He wasn't as proven as the other guys.

Let's see, whose scouting judgement do I trust more fully....Thompson's or Gruden's...hmmm....let me think...

My guess here is that TT took offers to trade down, but didn't want to go down too far and didn't get an offer he liked well enough, so he took the solid, safe, good pick. I like it. I'm good with it.

And it's only one pick, anyway. TT is most masterful compared to other GM's in the later rounds.

[Carolina_Packer]

Here's a good endorsement of our first round pick by Brian Billick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4-IhBm4HD0&NR=1

[Deputy Nutz]

Benching 225 only 23 times isn't good, but at the same time you have to factor in the length of this guys arms. I haven't researched but benching is a bitch if you have long arms. He looks big, but lanky. He has the agility to get his foot work right.

Not a pick that is going to burn anybody. Probably won't be all pro, but it gives this coaching staff another young offensive linemen. I assume Bulaga has the inside track at left tackle if Clifton goes down.

I don't like either Bulaga or Sherrod as a guard

Also, Carolina has just bankrupted their franchise.

Also Mark Ingram Senior is a criminal serving a prison term, I don't need to have his emails read on National TV.

[Lurker64]

I don't see where anybody is thinking Sherrod is an RT. From what I've seen and read, he's pretty much only a left tackle. He's a long, athletic, nimble big guy who's primarily a pass blocker. If that doesn't scream "Clifton's replacement" I don't know what would.

Sherrod backs up Clifton for a year and starts at LT in year two.

The only thing I'm worried about is his pad level.

[Deputy Nutz]

gotta have good pad level

[Lurker64]

Benching 225 only 23 times isn't good, but at the same time you have to factor in the length of this guys arms.

Of all the OL at the Combine only Tyron Smith (36 3/8), Jarriel King (36 3/8), Ben Ijalana (36), and Joseph Barksdale (36) had longer arms than Sherrod (35 3/8). Tyron Smith was the #9 overall pick and put up 29 reps, Jarriel King did not lift at the combine or his pro day, nor did Ben Ijalana, while Barksdale put up 29 but is not nearly the athlete that Sherrod is and does not project to left tackle in the NFL. 23 reps is fine for a long-armed OL who doesn't need to start right away. Remember that OL aren't usually the guys who put up huge numbers on the bench. Bulaga's arms are 2.5" shorter than Sherrod's and Bulaga only put up 26 on the bench.


gotta have good pad level

We'll get that fixed.

[vince]

Putting on about 10 lbs of beef while he sits behind Clifton would help the pad level problem.

[Bretsky]

it was a fair value pick; I was speaking with a friend at work today and we asked each other if we got 20-1 odds and had to name two players who we'd predict would be Packers who would they be ? I predicated Ingram, and I think that is what GB wanted if he slipped with the first option and Sherrod as option #2. . Sherrod just seemed like the only grade one OT that could slip to us. He's not a guy to get too excited about short term; he was probably the 6th best OT in the draft. But he seems like he can be athletic enough to protect the passer and be a steady player for years to come.

For the instant gratification guys (I often find myself guilty), we'd have rather seen a trade down and then hoped to pick up a guy like Reed or Moch to start right away.

But this guy fit a need we have so he made sense.

[Bretsky]

Pete Carroll noted he had 5 trade offers he was considering with the pick be4 he drafted James Carpenter at pick 25

[Smeefers]

Badger homerism aside, I'm happy Sherrod fell and Carimi didn't. With Carimi, Bulaga needs to turn into a LT. Now you've got some flexibility to see which of the two pans out there.

agreed.

[Smeefers]

All in all, everything read up until this point... I like the pick. I thought he would be gone before us. Like many, I'm surprised Bowers is still on the boad. I think Sherrod is a very berry good pick up for the pack though and I can see him covering quite well for Cliffy when he takes his eventual 3 game Flu, bad knee, bad other knee break this year.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Love the pick. My top guys were been Ingram, Sherrod or Aaron Williams. This is a deep OT draft, and this is a legit 1st round talent at LT. To me, LT is the second most important player behind QB. We now likely have two guys to protect Aaron Rodgers for the next 10 years. I didn't find too many people who didn't like this guy--unlike Ayers, Heyward, Reed, and others that I looked at.

[Noodle]

Great pick! Beluga on the right, to kick keester and give us some nasty roadgrading for the run game, and Sherrod on the left to take care of the blind side. This really does set up well for the future. I'm very happy with this pick, as we are slooowly getting the pieces for a solid OL.

[HarveyWallbangers]

This should make retailguy happy. He hates our OL. We know have a wily veteran at OC, a kickass RG, and two young, first round OTs. I'm still hopeful that Lang can make a push at LG.

[Lurker64]

This should make retailguy happy. He hates our OL. We know have a wily veteran at OC, a kickass RG, and two young, first round OTs. I'm still hopeful that Lang can make a push at LG.

Watch for Thompson to target Slippery Rock Center Brandon Fusco in the 4th or 5th rounds. That has "TT Pick" written all over it.

[Noodle]

This should make retailguy happy. He hates our OL. We know have a wily veteran at OC, a kickass RG, and two young, first round OTs. I'm still hopeful that Lang can make a push at LG.


Yes, exactly. I'm eager to hear what our OL experts think (ND, KY et al) but to me, Sitton and Bulaga on the right (NASTY!), Sherrod and Lang on the left (SOLID), that's some seriously sweet stuff.

For a decade.

[vince]

I agree with RG about Colledge. After 4 years or so of inconsistent play, that's an upgradeable spot IMO. Hopefully Lang and/or McDonald can make a strong push there.

You can't argue with reinforcing Rodgers' blindside protection. There's a ton of value in that. Hopefully Sherrod can put on more bulk. The fact that he didn't allow a sack his last two years in the SEC looks pretty good.

I was surprised Watkins got picked when he did. I'd have liked to have seen him on the board at 32.

[Noodle]

I was surprised Watkins got picked when he did. I'd have liked to have seen him on the board at 32.

Even if Watkins was there, I think I'd still want to take a shot at Sherrod. In my mind, an OG has to be superman before you take him in round 1, and Watkins ain't got no cape.

And this stuff about Sherrod needing more bulk -- c'mon. I don't think Cliffy is some weight-room monster, but he plays smart and fluid with good feet and lots of smarts, the same way Sherrod plays. And after all, Sherrod is no punk, he was a team captain, played in an athletic conference, and he'll get stronger, so I really have a good feeling that this will play out well.