Longwell?

[Tony Oday]

Should we get him if we cant sign Crosby?

[mraynrand]

no

[MJZiggy]

no.

(I need someone with at least the imagination to find that awesome place Tar and I went with GBM for a fish fry.)

[mraynrand]

Should Packerrats get GBM if we can't sign Tyrone Bigguns?

[Tony Oday]

So then who do we go with if Crosby doesnt resign? Longwell is still a good kicker

[RashanGary]

Should Packerrats get GBM if we can't sign Tyrone Bigguns?

If GBM is GBMichele, then yes. But I'd take both if I had the option.

[HarveyWallbangers]

So then who do we go with if Crosby doesnt resign? Longwell is still a good kicker

Who are the FA kickers?

[MJZiggy]

Should Packerrats get GBM if we can't sign Tyrone Bigguns?Absolutely, without question.

[Freak Out]

If Crosby is gone and Longwell is the best FA kicker available then yes.

[Freak Out]

Absolutely, without question.

Did I break her "Curly's" mug out the street after the game? Is that the GBM? Man she was pissed.

[Fritz]

no.

(I need someone with at least the imagination to find that awesome place Tar and I went with GBM for a fish fry.)

Was it Applebees?

[Little Whiskey]

Was it Applebees?

oh gawd please no! say it aint so!

[Iron Mike]

Did I break her "Curly's" mug out the street after the game? Is that the GBM? Man she was pissed.

http://www.stevemandich.com/uploaded_images/blogpacksquatch-703178.gif

RAMPAGE!!!!!

[KYPack]

You broke Michele's mug?

Yer a brave lad, Freak.

Re Longwell...

There is about an ocean of bad blood standing in the way of that move.

The only thing that gives me pause is TT usually takes care of all future moves prior to FA. Once the process gets that far, Thompson has usually moved on. Wonder what the deal is this time?

[MJZiggy]

Did I break her "Curly's" mug out the street after the game? Is that the GBM? Man she was pissed.

Dayum, that was you? I thought P did that. Either way, she was not a happy camper at that point. Did you guys go obtain her a new one?

[MJZiggy]

Was it Applebees?
No, it was awesome.

[Freak Out]

Of course I did.....Joemailman and I ran over to the stadium and I bought a replacement....then we met you, Retail and Madtown for frozen custard and a burger. P may have kicked it but it was my fault. I put the damn thing down when we were showing off our impressive arm strength and throwing motion.

I was bummed....I had all this great New Glarus beer and most of you guys were done drinking at that point.

[Lurker64]

Who are the FA kickers?

Free Agent Kickers this offseason (their status, and their their ages): Adam Vinatierri (UFA, 38), Matt Prater (RFA, 27), Ryan Longwell (UFA, 37), Olindo Mare (UFA, 38), Matt Bryant (UFA, 36), Shayne Graham (UFA, 33), Connor Barth (RFA, 25), Mason Crosby (UFA, 26), Nick Folk (UFA, 26).

David Akers (36) was transition tagged, but the Iggles drafted a kicker high, so likely they will rescind the tag once the lockout is lifted and then cut him, at which point he will be a UFA.

[Little Whiskey]

I put the damn thing down when we were showing off our impressive arm strength and throwing motion.



cannon arms?

[Guiness]

Free Agent Kickers this offseason (their status, and their their ages): Adam Vinatierri (UFA, 38), Matt Prater (RFA, 27), Ryan Longwell (UFA, 37), Olindo Mare (UFA, 38), Matt Bryant (UFA, 36), Shayne Graham (UFA, 33), Connor Barth (RFA, 25), Mason Crosby (UFA, 26), Nick Folk (UFA, 26).

David Akers (36) was transition tagged, but the Iggles drafted a kicker high, so likely they will rescind the tag once the lockout is lifted and then cut him, at which point he will be a UFA.

I'll start by saying I like Crosby a lot, and hope he's the guy we get back. Hard to tell why it got to this point with Crosby, I can only guess it's because he's low on the priority list. It's relatively cheap to tag him, should that option still be available.

If we go in another direction, the most interesting name on that list is Nick Folk. He was a very good kicker until his injury, he messed up his re-hab, and the Dallas trainers didn't sort it out. He's healthy again, and seems like he can be dominant.

I can't see the vets on that list, Vinatierri, Longwell or Mare being terribly interested in GB, or us in them. Mare has been Miami, NO, Seattle. Could he kick in bad weather?

Ackers is still effective, isn't he? He's been in Philly, so should be an ok cold weather guy. I wouldn't mind him.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Crosby

[Guiness]

cannon arms?

Did someone say arm strength?

http://photos.demandstudios.com/153/148/fotolia_197342_XS.jpg

[Bretsky]

young powerful kicker with upside; just sign Crosby

but if we don't get that done Longwell was the best kicker I've ever seen in GB and I'd be ok with him

[Jimx29]

Fuck longwell.

[Zool]

Fuck longwell.

Sideways

[get louder at lambeau]

Fuck longwell.

I wouldn't fuck him with Retail's dick. I mean Joe's dick. Er... uh... Admin's dick? Or is that Madtown? I'm so confuzzled.

[Freak Out]

Can Vinatierri still kick outdoors?

[MJZiggy]

Can Vinatierri still kick outdoors?

No, and I think that's the problem. Viniaterri could probably kick outdoors, but would he want to? Longwell, I'm sure has gotten very used to kicking in a dome. Even disregarding the bad blood on his way out of town, why would he want to come back to a place where he's kicking something that's like kicking a brick. I'm not even completely convinced he'd be effective here anymore. Even though GB I'm sure is great for a lot of players, It's not an easy place to be an effective kicker. Crosby hasn't kicked elsewhere, is strong enough to fight the weather, kicks off a ton better than Longwell and likes it here. That's unique. I think TT does what he needs to do to keep him, and Crosby does what it takes to stay.

[Bretsky]

Longwell would probably be money at 42 and under here; it seemed like a dome gave him five more yards.
He's more valuable to a dome team and I'm sure he'd much rather kick in a dome as well.

[vince]

Akers has had a good career in Philly, which can be a tough place to kick. He had some misses last year, but he'd be my second choice I think. Crosby is clearly the guy to get for the Pack.

[BobDobbs]

If we sign Longwell we still have to sign Crosby for kickoffs.

[Gunakor]

Moot issue IMO. I'm sure Crosby would prefer to be back in Green Bay, and I see no reason why Thompson wouldn't want him back in Green Bay. I'd imagine that deal is done very quickly after the lockout ends. He'll be here.

[Fritz]

With no actual evidence, I do believe that Crosby will be re-signed. He seems like the kind of guy TT re-signs: young, productive, good citizen, looks like a famous midget actor.http://www.concertshots.com/August%202006/cs-BradWilliams1-Athens081606.JPG

[mission]

Honestly wouldn't care either way. Crosby is my least favorite Packer.

[MJZiggy]

Honestly wouldn't care either way. Crosby is my least favorite Packer.

I like him. Sometimes he forgets to wear his jock...

[mission]

I like him. Sometimes he forgets to wear his jock...

Nothing worse than the dreaded "cock outline" :no:

[Freak Out]

Nothing worse than the dreaded "cock outline" :no:

http://www.feelnumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/plant8.jpg

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Seriously forget Longwell. Why would you want a kicker who complains about kicking outdoors? Crosby may in be as accurate, but he is still a decent kicker who is a lot younger and should should be pretty easy to retain.

[mraynrand]

http://www.feelnumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/plant8.jpg

"We've got Armadillos in our trousers. It's really quite frightening"

http://images.allmoviephoto.com/1984_This_Is_Spinal_Tap/harry_shearer_this_is_spinal_tap_001.jpg

[Fritz]

It looks like Robert Plant has two penises. Or is that a giant camel toe?

[red]

screw longwell, he burned his bridge

he left without class, went to the enemy, and played a major part in the whole Favre debacle

[Bretsky]

bring back Tom Birney

[Iron Mike]

http://www.weht.net/pics/marcol.jpg

Looks like Chester could still get it done.

[Deputy Nutz]

Did I break her "Curly's" mug out the street after the game? Is that the GBM? Man she was pissed.

Skin made fun of her dog's egg shaped head. Then she refused to speak to us for the rest of the visit. Then her dog passed away several months later. So assume she is still pissed at him.

[Lurker64]

Another alternative to Crosby, in case we can't retain him. Kai Forbath, out of UCLA, had a pretty good kicking career and he went undrafted. Personally, I didn't have him far behind Alex Henery who the Iggles drafted in the fourth round.

[Tony Oday]

no rookie kickers please.

[Smidgeon]

no rookie kickers please.

The Packers did pretty well with their last rookie kicker. NFL record for point by rookie and won first game with a FG at the end in a tough venue at Philly...

That being said, I'd rather keep that former NFL rookie than find a new one...

[Lurker64]

no rookie kickers please.

I'd probably rather have a rookie kicker than Longwell, or another "well into the twilight of his career" guy.

[Tarlam!]

The easiest solution, of course, is to just keep scoring TDs and avoid FG attempts altogether, and going for 2 on every PAT. That reduces the duties down to a strong leg for kicking off.

There's just no way I can invent a scenario that brings Longwell back to Applebees.

[Lurker64]

Potentially worth considering is that Masthay kicked off at Kentucky, so if you got a kicker with more accuracy than range, you could probably rely on Masthay (though I don't think he has the leg that Crosby does.)

[MJZiggy]

Potentially worth considering is that Masthay kicked off at Kentucky, so if you got a kicker with more accuracy than range, you could probably rely on Masthay (though I don't think he has the leg that Crosby does.)
You're forgetting that Crosby is a genius at ball placement. Lousy kickoffs are extremely rare with him. I think you guys have gotten spoiled and just don't realize it.

[mraynrand]

You're forgetting that Crosby is a genius at ball placement. Lousy kickoffs are extremely rare with him. I think you guys have gotten spoiled and just don't realize it.

Good point. Me likey Crosby.

[Tarlam!]

Zig, I just think we're having this disussion out of pure lockout boredom. I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell that TT doesn't get it done. Unless Crosby is gonna ask for crazy-money. His agent has a bit of leverage, I suppose.

[Patler]

There has been talk about teams have a limited number of "matching offer" options for this season only, as a transition into whatever the new FA rules will be. Sort of like some extra tags, but without the required salary tenders. If that happens, Crosby would be a good one to use one of them on.

[MJZiggy]

There has been talk about teams have a limited number of "matching offer" options for this season only, as a transition into whatever the new FA rules will be. Sort of like some extra tags, but without the required salary tenders. If that happens, Crosby would be a good one to use one of them on.

I'd rather just get a new contract done.

[Fritz]

It would seem he's more valuable to this team than, say, James Jones.

[Patler]

There has been talk about teams have a limited number of "matching offer" options for this season only, as a transition into whatever the new FA rules will be. Sort of like some extra tags, but without the required salary tenders. If that happens, Crosby would be a good one to use one of them on.


I'd rather just get a new contract done.

But that would accomplish exactly that, with his value determined by the league. If the team and player are having a hard time agreeing on his value, this would do that for them.

[Tarlam!]

It would seem he's more valuable to this team than, say, James Jones.

Interesting point, but just how much is he worth? Where is he rated from 1-32?

[MJZiggy]

But that would accomplish exactly that, with his value determined by the league. If the team and player are having a hard time agreeing on his value, this would do that for them.

I meant long-term contract. If players get angry at getting tagged, I'd rather see the team work out a long-term deal rather than anger the player and have the same discussion again next year.

[Smidgeon]

You're forgetting that Crosby is a genius at ball placement. Lousy kickoffs are extremely rare with him. I think you guys have gotten spoiled and just don't realize it.

I agree. He may be the best onside kicker in the league...

[Smidgeon]

Interesting point, but just how much is he worth? Where is he rated from 1-32?

In another forum, Waldo's running a roster ranking voting process one at a time. Crosby hasn't made the list yet, and they're at about #22 or #23...

[get louder at lambeau]

I meant long-term contract. If players get angry at getting tagged, I'd rather see the team work out a long-term deal rather than anger the player and have the same discussion again next year.

I think Patler means some team would give him a long term contract offer, then the Packers would match it and have him in an identical long term contract, kinda like with restricted free agents.

[Pugger]

In another forum, Waldo's running a roster ranking voting process one at a time. Crosby hasn't made the list yet, and they're at about #22 or #23...

Is this forum Footballs Future?

[MJZiggy]

I think Patler means some team would give him a long term contract offer, then the Packers would match it and have him in an identical long term contract, kinda like with restricted free agents.

Ah. I was relating it to tagging which is usually a one-season deal.

[Patler]

I meant long-term contract. If players get angry at getting tagged, I'd rather see the team work out a long-term deal rather than anger the player and have the same discussion again next year.

It very likely would be a long term contract. They could match whatever another team offers, which almost certainly would be long term. It's not likely that some other team will offer him only a one year contract. The one-year aspect usually only applies to the original team's tender offer, and what they are talking about now does not include the tender offer part of it. Just a right of first refusal for whatever FA contract the player receives from someone else.

[Patler]

I think Patler means some team would give him a long term contract offer, then the Packers would match it and have him in an identical long term contract, kinda like with restricted free agents.

Yup!

[Patler]

Ah. I was relating it to tagging which is usually a one-season deal.

I guess I should have read to the end of the thread before replying!

[Smidgeon]

Is this forum Footballs Future?

Yep

[get louder at lambeau]

Uh-oh! Another forum was "promoted". Quick, MadTown, erase posts and ban people!

[Fritz]

Uh-oh! Another forum was "promoted". Quick, MadTown, erase posts and ban people!


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[SkinBasket]

I prefer keez video.

[SkinBasket]

Skin made fun of her dog's egg shaped head. Then she refused to speak to us for the rest of the visit. Then her dog passed away several months later. So assume she is still pissed at him.

First, I didn't make fun of the animal. I simply asked what happened to it. I figured I'd seen hundreds of dogs and none looked like that one, so some external force must have been applied to create such a unique head.

Second, it wasn't shaped like an egg. More like a Hersey's kiss.

Third, I don't think that was why she didn't talk to us.

Forth, I was obviously correct in assuming something was wrong with the dog is it died shortly thereafter.

[MJZiggy]

porn hub is totally free and features female-friendly porn, too, for our female Packerrats.

Thanks for the heads up.