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Deputy Nutz
08-01-2011, 01:07 PM
They are cheap as shit, but I have read several reports and feedback that they are pretty good gun, accurate, low jamming, a bit heavy but the price is unbeatable for the quality.

Anyone have any feeback with ownership? Any feeback with what was read about the gun?

SkinBasket
08-01-2011, 01:52 PM
Ugliest fucking things. But from what I've read, they still shoot bullets. And I think they come with a lifetime warranty. Of course, it'll cost you half the price of the gun to ship it, but it's better than licking Partial's balls I bet. For $130-150 you can't really go wrong unless it blows up and kills you.

3irty1
08-01-2011, 02:32 PM
I shot the 45 before. To be honest it was pretty memorable. In operation its closest to a glock but maybe even simpler. There might be only 40 parts to the whole gun. There is very little recoil compared to say a 1911, probably due in part to the fact that its heavy. I shot it pretty well, the weight makes it pretty easy to steady. Not sure I would conceal this hog because of its weight but it would be nice in a nightstand or something. The gun won't fire without the mag in it even if there is a bullet in the chamber, so that's probably nice for home defense. If I were to get one I think I'd look into the 9mm one since its probably a little lighter, even cheaper, and since the whole point is presumably to buy the cheapest possible rig, I'd want the one that shot the most affordable ammo as well.

3irty1
08-01-2011, 02:38 PM
Ugliest fucking things. But from what I've read, they still shoot bullets. And I think they come with a lifetime warranty. Of course, it'll cost you half the price of the gun to ship it, but it's better than licking Partial's balls I bet. For $130-150 you can't really go wrong unless it blows up and kills you.

Still cheaper than moving to the good part of town.

SkinBasket
08-01-2011, 03:29 PM
Still cheaper than moving to the good part of town.

Nutz lives in fancyland. I'm assuming he's going to use this to rape and pillage his neighbors.

Freak Out
08-01-2011, 03:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWBoeY0AAec

Scott Campbell
08-01-2011, 06:16 PM
How bout for shooting teens stealing beer?

Little Whiskey
08-02-2011, 08:39 AM
Ugliest fucking things. But from what I've read, they still shoot bullets. And I think they come with a lifetime warranty. Of course, it'll cost you half the price of the gun to ship it, but it's better than licking Partial's balls I bet. For $130-150 you can't really go wrong unless it blows up and kills you.

you hang heads on the wall, not the gun.

SkinBasket
08-19-2011, 04:58 PM
You got your gun yet? If not, you should blow the extra $550 and buy this "for your wife."

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/59/59346.jpg

woodbuck27
08-21-2011, 09:30 PM
You got your gun yet? If not, you should blow the extra $550 and buy this "for your wife."

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/59/59346.jpg

That looks like a cigerette lighter. How about an alert dog for home security? That keeps you out of jail for shooting a good guy (slash) bad guy and saves you the risk of an unfortunate accident

mraynrand
08-21-2011, 10:16 PM
That looks like a cigerette lighter. How about an alert dog for home security? That keeps you out of jail for shooting a good guy (slash) bad guy and saves you the risk of an unfortunate accident


Stop standing there and help me find my nose.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ll5chfz1qFU/SnrpuD3tT8I/AAAAAAAAEko/S4-VUa0Cujc/s320/ScreenHunter_01+Aug.+06+10.32.jpg

SkinBasket
08-22-2011, 08:26 AM
That looks like a cigerette lighter. How about an alert dog for home security? That keeps you out of jail for shooting a good guy (slash) bad guy and saves you the risk of an unfortunate accident

How many good guys do you know who break into your home in the middle of the night?

Such fear of firearms is usually the result of ignorance and miseducation.

woodbuck27
08-22-2011, 04:23 PM
Stop standing there and help me find my nose.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ll5chfz1qFU/SnrpuD3tT8I/AAAAAAAAEko/S4-VUa0Cujc/s320/ScreenHunter_01+Aug.+06+10.32.jpg

Hahaaha ... The wife .... '' Sorry dear .... you gave me the lesson on loading the gun... but unloading!? When's that lesson? ''

woodbuck27
08-22-2011, 04:32 PM
How many good guys do you know who break into your home in the middle of the night?

Such fear of firearms is usually the result of ignorance and miseducation.

What about ....

That drunken friend that arrives at 2 AM unannounced to snap a beer from your fridge?

The drunk that's so obliterated that he ends up in the wrong driveway?

The Father-In-Law that has had a bad argument with your Mother-In-Law.... seeking 'safe Haven'.

The son or daughter that arrives HOME unexpectantly from college.

etc.

Scott Campbell
08-22-2011, 07:23 PM
What about ....

That drunken friend that arrives at 2 AM unannounced to snap a beer from your fridge?

The drunk that's so obliterated that he ends up in the wrong driveway?

The Father-In-Law that has had a bad argument with your Mother-In-Law.... seeking 'safe Haven'.

The son or daughter that arrives HOME unexpectantly from college.

etc.


I imagine this firearm would be pretty effective at stopping any of them.

SkinBasket
08-22-2011, 08:46 PM
What about ....

That drunken friend that arrives at 2 AM unannounced to snap a beer from your fridge?

The drunk that's so obliterated that he ends up in the wrong driveway?

The Father-In-Law that has had a bad argument with your Mother-In-Law.... seeking 'safe Haven'.

The son or daughter that arrives HOME unexpectantly from college.

etc.

We have these things... they are called phones. Greatly reduces the occurrence of family members breaking and entering in the middle of the night.

Deputy Nutz
08-22-2011, 10:11 PM
I also think their is a significant difference between the sound of a key unlocking a door versus a door being smashed open buy a sledge hammer and a crowbar.

I don't know what kind of drunk friends wouldbuck has, but my drunk friends know better to come into my home at 2:00am. I have children and I will protect them even against my friends' own stupidity.

3irty1
08-23-2011, 07:23 AM
Woodbuck, that argument is supposed to be used by your wife right before you say "And now you know why I need night vision goggles."

Seriously though who ever just unloads at a silhouette? Lots of people with a gun for home defense have a flashlight too, as do most burglars I would imagine.

woodbuck27
08-23-2011, 07:40 AM
Woodbuck, that argument is supposed to be used by your wife right before you say "And now you know why I need night vision goggles."

Seriously though who ever just unloads at a silhouette? Lots of people with a gun for home defense have a flashlight too, as do most burglars I would imagine.

It's just a cultural thing. For a long time we've been into debate over the social value Vs cost of 'the Long Gun Registry'. It's mainly a political football up here. I feel it's the use of handguns that should draw the concern of the Politicians. Not my hand me down fr. a relative after death, single barreled 20 guage. It's weapons that can be easily concealed that should draw the greatest concern and need for registration asconcerns their use in intended crimes.

I have a zero problem with a man having the means to defend his home and family if the absolute need arises. I also have to weigh in on the chance that handgun can be involved in an accident. The long gun can as well.

A man/woman should have the right to bear arms without too much political juggling.

Therefore...I stand down in favour of your needs 'as American citizens', to protect all that's yours.

woodbuck27
08-23-2011, 07:57 AM
I also think their is a significant difference between the sound of a key unlocking a door versus a door being smashed open buy a sledge hammer and a crowbar.

I don't know what kind of drunk friends wouldbuck has, but my drunk friends know better to come into my home at 2:00am. I have children and I will protect them even against my friends' own stupidity.

OK I get it. You have a 2 AM curfue on Uncle Bob entering your home to deliver some mail. The son who normally stays over at the girlfriends and gets in an unexpected controversy 'over whatever, and decides to return to Mom and Dad's place for some peace and sleep. He needs to make that call first.

I do believe a loud dog is a safer response than a loaded handgun for too many reasons and examples of past regretful accidents involving the taking of an innoscent life.

Also... I do believe you have a right to bear arms to protect home and person. To me it's an easier call with tht dog just ready to snarl and bark at anone coming near your home.

SkinBasket
08-23-2011, 08:15 AM
It's weapons that can be easily concealed that should draw the greatest concern and need for registration asconcerns their use in intended crimes.

Then you should also be concerned with registering knives, lead pipes, and people's hands, all of which can be presumed to have a role in a possible crime. A handgun is a machine. Plastic, metal, and wood. It doesn't make decisions or have intent, and it does not fire of it's own accord.

I'll say it again. Most of the fear surrounding guns is based in ignorance and sociopolitical misrepresentations meant to advance agendas. Which is understandable when you consider that the extent of most non-gun owners' education in regards to firearms is limited to having seen Boyz in the Hood. Presuming legal gun owners (who are the only people registries or any other government bureaucracy will actually affect) have a criminal intent is the result of your preconditioning.

Yeah, there are tragic accidents involving handguns. There are also tragic accidents, and crimes, involving vehicles, domestic animals, power tools, poisons, non-power tools, knives, fire, water, and a wide range of other heavy and/or sharp things. Where are your registries for those things?

Deputy Nutz
08-23-2011, 09:50 AM
So this dog that you speak of, lets say it bites Uncle Bob's balls off and Bob bleeds out on my floor. Isn't it the same thing as shooting him in the face with a .40 cal? Actually this is a more realistic senerio, I have a trained dog of death, a child comes to the front door, or a next door neighbor kid and the dog doesn't recognize the person, jumps threw the screen door and mames some poor inocent kid. It happens all the fucking time here in America, of course the dogs are not trained and are actually brutalized into ravaged beasts, but I would take a bet that more people die from dog attacks in this country then getting shot for coming home at 2:00am. That is the fear that the lovely liberals love to spread around about gun control. That a handgun will be used on your own family because you are to stupid to use a gun without killing someone you love on accident.

Deputy Nutz
08-23-2011, 09:52 AM
Yeah, there are tragic accidents involving handguns. There are also tragic accidents, and crimes, involving vehicles, domestic animals, power tools, poisons, non-power tools, knives, fire, water, and a wide range of other heavy and/or sharp things. Where are your registries for those things?

Don't worry those are coming as well. This is the age of regulation. You can't keep a shitty government in place without regulation of its' people.

Little Whiskey
08-23-2011, 10:54 AM
So this dog that you speak of, lets say it bites Uncle Bob's balls off and Bob bleeds out on my floor.

Uncle Bob should have been wearing a cup! Maybe he learned his lesson the hard way just like 007 kid who doesn't want to wear one for football.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5y3NO8YSow

SkinBasket
08-23-2011, 02:15 PM
Why even make a choice. How about a dog-gun?

http://img.hexus.net/v2/gaming/screenshots_xbox360/zoids/zoids1_large.jpg

Ah fuck it. As long as we're at it, why not just make it a home defense unicorn?

http://www.picture.enfuniverse.com/brands/tomy/zoids/zoids_feb.jpg

SkinBasket
09-20-2011, 08:40 PM
you should just get this for less than $400. Not only are you getting a quality handgun, you are getting a WEAPONS SYSTEM! Conversion kits allow for swapping out of the 250 line's caliber, trigger, and grip in less than a minute. It's an investment in your future.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/70/70859.jpg

MJZiggy
09-20-2011, 08:41 PM
you should just get this for less than $400. Not only are you getting a quality handgun, you are getting a WEAPONS SYSTEM! Conversion kits allow for swapping out of the 250 line's caliber, trigger, and grip in less than a minute. It's an investment in your future.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/70/70859.jpg

It's the iGun...!

SkinBasket
09-20-2011, 08:43 PM
It's the iGun...!

Except it's cheaper than most comparable firearms! Image that!

Upnorth
09-21-2011, 10:21 AM
What about ....

That drunken friend that arrives at 2 AM unannounced to snap a beer from your fridge?

The drunk that's so obliterated that he ends up in the wrong driveway?

The Father-In-Law that has had a bad argument with your Mother-In-Law.... seeking 'safe Haven'.

The son or daughter that arrives HOME unexpectantly from college.

etc.

All valid points for making the purchase. Thanks for reinforcing the need.

Upnorth
09-21-2011, 10:24 AM
If you are looking for home defense use a shotgun. Just my opinion, but if you are protecting what is important (family) a pistol won't do as good of a job, plus when the heart is pumping they are very inacurate. two hands steady your aim a lot more. If it is for fun of target shooting with a pistol that is a totally different story.

SkinBasket
09-21-2011, 10:49 AM
If I had $2000 laying around, I would buy this right now.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/41/41599.jpg
HK SL8-6

Carbon fiber bitches!

SkinBasket
09-21-2011, 02:16 PM
This is going to be hard to pass up when I'm picking my Christmas gun, assuming it's in production by then...

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/75/75433.jpg

34 rounds of 9mm would make for a fun time and it's only $600.

Freak Out
09-21-2011, 05:03 PM
I'll take two please.

http://www.fnherstal.com/index.php?id=184&backPID=182&productID=9&pid_product=232&pidList=182&categorySelector=1&detail=&cHash=d6785c2499

SkinBasket
09-21-2011, 05:21 PM
I've never been a fan of the scar due to it's dumpy back end. By dumpy, I mean dumpy like a fat girl.

http://www.fnherstal.com/uploads/pics/scar_h_std_eglm_d_01.jpg

But you put the added equipment like that up top and suddenly she looks a lot more like a beauty queen.

Freak Out
09-21-2011, 06:05 PM
That is a sexy piece of hardware boy.

SkinBasket
12-20-2011, 08:54 AM
http://www.lipseys.com/eImages/MRBE9413R.jpg

The order is in, but it won't be here for Christmas.

40S&W
Steel frame
4.5" barrel
13 round magazine

George Cumby
12-22-2011, 08:47 PM
http://www.lipseys.com/eImages/MRBE9413R.jpg

The order is in, but it won't be here for Christmas.

40S&W
Steel frame
4.5" barrel
13 round magazine


It's.... aaaaaahh.. verrrry niiiiiiice.

George Cumby
12-22-2011, 08:47 PM
you should just get this for less than $400. Not only are you getting a quality handgun, you are getting a WEAPONS SYSTEM! Conversion kits allow for swapping out of the 250 line's caliber, trigger, and grip in less than a minute. It's an investment in your future.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/70/70859.jpg


I'm a Sig man, myself. P220.

SkinBasket
01-05-2012, 06:58 AM
It's.... aaaaaahh.. verrrry niiiiiiice.

Picked it up and cleaned it up. Heavy gal. Only complaint is the stiff slide really doesn't have much grip and you end up pulling on the safety lever most of the time. And 40SW ammo is a bit fucked right now. Going to try this new shit from Herters/CCI. Funny looking stuff. Hope it works, since I have 1000 rounds on the way:

http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_218154_999_01?rgn=0,0,2000,1186&scl=5.2631578947368425&fmt=jpeg&id=0Z1zSgr5trEn-86uuqUVG7

One of the best places for ammo, AIM surplus, is within 30 minutes of me, but they sell out fast. I missed the last shipment of brass for 12.50 per 50, which I need for the dumpy ass range I use in Wisconsin while visiting.

SkinBasket
01-05-2012, 07:43 AM
I'm a Sig man, myself. P220.

How do you find it? I've read some reviews where some folks feel the build of Sig handguns just doesn't feel like it's well made, which is kind of how I feel about Glock. I really liked the 220 Equinox, but needed to find a lower price point.

Freak Out
01-05-2012, 05:33 PM
Picked it up and cleaned it up. Heavy gal. Only complaint is the stiff slide really doesn't have much grip and you end up pulling on the safety lever most of the time. And 40SW ammo is a bit fucked right now. Going to try this new shit from Herters/CCI. Funny looking stuff. Hope it works, since I have 1000 rounds on the way:

http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_218154_999_01?rgn=0,0,2000,1186&scl=5.2631578947368425&fmt=jpeg&id=0Z1zSgr5trEn-86uuqUVG7

One of the best places for ammo, AIM surplus, is within 30 minutes of me, but they sell out fast. I missed the last shipment of brass for 12.50 per 50, which I need for the dumpy ass range I use in Wisconsin while visiting.

Good price.....does the nylon jacket come in any other color? The blue is nice but I'd prefer it a little brighter.

Deputy Nutz
01-05-2012, 05:40 PM
I wonder if you can see the color when it is shot at you.

Tarlam!
01-05-2012, 06:50 PM
How do you find it? I've read some reviews where some folks feel the build of Sig handguns just doesn't feel like it's well made, which is kind of how I feel about Glock. I really liked the 220 Equinox, but needed to find a lower price point.

http://www.luger-genesis.com/luger_img_comp/Borchardt_Luger_No6_lrg_rt.jpg

Freak Out
01-05-2012, 06:54 PM
I wonder if you can see the color when it is shot at you.

It's just easier to find when it's rolling around on the floorboards of my car.

George Cumby
01-07-2012, 07:39 AM
How do you find it? I've read some reviews where some folks feel the build of Sig handguns just doesn't feel like it's well made, which is kind of how I feel about Glock. I really liked the 220 Equinox, but needed to find a lower price point.

I've put thousands of rounds through mine, had it for over ten years. Fairly hard, rugged use, but in a somewhat dry environment. I've only had a few of problems. And by that I mean a few instances where when I pulled the trigger, it didn't go "boom". All were at the range on the same day. I was trying a new magazine, stainless ten rounder and was having feeding issues. I get rid of the new mag and keep going with my old, broken in mags and voila. Working like a charm.

Have a friend who was working in a wetter environment who said the Sigs suffered badly under those conditions.

I haven't shot the Glock much, but don't like it.

George Cumby
01-07-2012, 07:40 AM
http://www.luger-genesis.com/luger_img_comp/Borchardt_Luger_No6_lrg_rt.jpg

No school like old school.

Tarlam!
01-07-2012, 08:09 AM
No school like old school.

Look at the hair trigger. I imagine it has the "U" shape in case the sping broke. The shooter could move his finger back and forth to get the rounds off. Has to be useful in war!

Hate to think how they discovered they needed that innovation. :oops:

SkinBasket
01-21-2012, 05:08 PM
Did an ammo inventory while moving the gun cabinet today:

7.62x54R: 820 rounds
9mm: 4596 rounds
9mm HP: 110 rounds
.40S&W: 1000 rounds
.223/5.56: 1270 rounds
12GA: 250 rounds
22LR: 3475


I also have some 770+ rounds of .223 I can't use without jamming my breach and another half box of 22LR.

mraynrand
01-21-2012, 08:33 PM
I jammed my breach today. My wife expects an apology

MJZiggy
01-21-2012, 11:08 PM
I jammed my breach today. My wife expects an apologyJust offer to do that load of laundry yourself...

mraynrand
01-22-2012, 09:16 AM
Once more unto the breaches, dear friends!

Freak Out
02-16-2012, 02:07 PM
Who is shooting Glocks? Model?

3irty1
02-16-2012, 03:06 PM
Who is shooting Glocks? Model?

Me. 19. They aren't as fun or as cool as a 1911 but I just plain can't miss with it.