Official Packers Final Cuts Thread

[Joemailman]

Jon Hoese is the first to go. http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110902/PKR01/110902156/Packers-cut-rookie-FB-Hoese?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|PKR-News

[mraynrand]

http://jkfinancialinc.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/gomer-pyle-surprise.jpg?w=540&h=466

[vince]

Decent chance he's a practice squad target. He mades some plays on speacial teams and if they cut Johnson, there's value in keeping him around.

Edit: I see the agent made it a point to let the reporter know that they've asked him to stick around because he might be a practice squad target. I guess it makes sense to read the article before posting. Fucking agents.

[HarveyWallbangers]

They asked him to stay around Green Bay. Sign that they're going to cut Johnson?

[gbgary]

http://jkfinancialinc.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/gomer-pyle-surprise.jpg?w=540&h=466

needs one more "surprise".

[Joemailman]

They asked him to stay around Green Bay. Sign that they're going to cut Johnson?

Likely. Doubt they'd want to put a FB on the PS if they were going to keep 2 FB's.

[denverYooper]

They asked him to stay around Green Bay. Sign that they're going to cut Johnson?

Certainly seems they're considering it.

[Harlan Huckleby]

They asked him to stay around Green Bay. Sign that they're going to cut Johnson?

huh? you think they might resign jon-boy after he clears waivers to replace Johnson? I don't get that scenario.

BTW, McGinn says Johnson is a keeper. I don't see that either.

[imscott72]

Ross and Schlauderaff are gone..

[HarveyWallbangers]

huh? you think they might resign jon-boy after he clears waivers to replace Johnson? I don't get that scenario.

Practice squad

[imscott72]

Borel released

[gbgary]

brandian ross, calab schlauderaff

[RashanGary]

Quinn Johnson can't block on the move (ST's, stretch runs or zone runs.) He just misses his target. It's not like the would be tacklers run straight into him so he doesn't have to change his path.

Quinn Johnson can't catch. Sure he's done it a couple times, but he seems about a 50/50 bet to actually make the catch. He can't run.

Quinn Johnson can't play coverage on ST's. I say this because he doesn't


The only thing Quinn Johnson can do is block straight ahead, but Raji can do that better anyway. Hell, EDS would be a good squat body to ram up there too. Quinn Johnson is the most useless piece of crap on our roster. If he's not cut, I hate Ted Thompson.

[Freak Out]

I. P. Freely is gone.

[RashanGary]

I wonder if we keep that little 6'0" squat center. I read he was playing well. He carries the weight fine. I don't know if being long when you're inside is such a must.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I don't know if being long when you're inside is such a must.
Brandon seems to think it is critical

[smuggler]

Smithson is a dead man.

[RashanGary]

Some guys are just thick and powerful even though they're short. Usually it's tough for a short guy to carry weight. Could you imagine a 5'4" 340 bound DL. He'd be a little rolly polly umpa lumpa with stubby little guinea pig legs and useless little allegator arms. Tall guys tend to be heavier and have longer limbs.

But inside, if you're a 6' powerfull guy with tree trunk legs, a big anvil for a bubble, a barrel core/chest and longer arms than normal for you size. . . . I don't see why he couldn't get under guys, slide his feet, anchor down with his 310+ weight, get movement with his powerful legs, etc. . . . . There are some rare guys who carry weight differently than others, low, powerful, squat, explosive. Raji is an example. Barely 6'2", carries weight low. Powerful as an ox. Bubble like two 75 lb medicine balls, tree trunk legs. . . . . .

James Harrison, Sam Mills, Kieth Jackson as a TE. . . . etc. . . . . There are unique body types that can do it, even if they're not as common as the prototype.

[imscott72]

Brandon Underwood cut..

[Brando19]

Brandon Underwood cut..

Is this true or are you assuming?

[pbmax]

Quinn Johnson can't block on the move (ST's, stretch runs or zone runs.) He just misses his target. It's not like the would be tacklers run straight into him so he doesn't have to change his path.

Quinn Johnson can't catch. Sure he's done it a couple times, but he seems about a 50/50 bet to actually make the catch. He can't run.

Quinn Johnson can't play coverage on ST's. I say this because he doesn't


The only thing Quinn Johnson can do is block straight ahead, but Raji can do that better anyway. Hell, EDS would be a good squat body to ram up there too. Quinn Johnson is the most useless piece of crap on our roster. If he's not cut, I hate Ted Thompson.

He was on kickoff coverage and punt coverage by the end of the preseason, but I have no idea if it was as a starter or fill in late in the game.

[pbmax]

Is this true or are you assuming?

True. https://twitter.com/#!/TomSilverstein/status/110014073994887168

[pbmax]

Sampson Genus cut. Definite PS candidate as he might have been the best backup guard on the roster beside EDS.

https://twitter.com/#!/TomSilverstein/status/110010960932110337

[gbgary]

Sampson Genus

[pbmax]

https://twitter.com/#!/RobDemovsky/status/110015552587710464

WR Kerry Taylor cut and said he was told they are only keeping 5 WR.

[gbgary]

https://twitter.com/#!/RobDemovsky/status/110015552587710464

WR Kerry Taylor cut and said he was told they are only keeping 5 WR.

hmmmm

[Brando19]

True. https://twitter.com/#!/TomSilverstein/status/110014073994887168

Thanks. It doesn't shock me, but this kid showed so much potential at one time.

[gbgary]

toolbelt? noooooooo!

[imscott72]

They're going to cut West..

[imscott72]

Is this true or are you assuming?

If I post it it's true, unless the info I get is bad..

[pbmax]

toolbelt? noooooooo!

More bad news. Source says Toolbelt is gone.

https://twitter.com/#!/TomSilverstein/status/110019151623491584

[gbgary]

http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/forums/images/smilies/smilie_thud.gif

[smuggler]

Sad about West and Gurley. At least I will still have So'oto (he is a Golden God).

[gbgary]

Sad about West and Gurley. At least I will still have So'oto (he is a Golden God).

gurley too? haven't seen that yet.

[RashanGary]

Rodgers
Flynn[\b]
6 Harrell, Graham QB 6-2 215 26 1 Texas Tech



[b]James Starks
Alex Green
25 Grant, Ryan RB 6-1 222 28 5 Notre Dame
23 Nance, Dimitri RB 5-10 219 23 2 Arizona State
33 Saine, Brandon RB 5-11 220 22 R Ohio State
45 Johnson, Quinn FB 6-1 263 24 3 Louisiana State
35 Hoese, Jon FB 6-2 238 22 R Minnesota



Greg Jennings
Jordy Nelson
Donald Driver
James Jones
Randall Cobb
9 Smithson, Shaky WR 5-11 202 24 R Utah
11 West, Chastin WR 6-1 216 24 1 Fresno State
86 Gurley, Tori WR 6-4 216 23 R South Carolina
19 Borel, Diondre WR 6-0 199 22 R Utah State
13 Taylor, Kerry WR 6-0 196 22 R Arizona State



Jermichael Finley
81 Quarless, Andre TE 6-4 252 22 2 Penn State
83 Crabtree, Tom TE 6-4 245 25 2 Miami (Ohio)
84 Williams, D.J. TE 6-2 245 22 R Arkansas
Ryan Taylor TE



Clifton
Lang
Wells
Sitton
Bulaga
Newhouse
Sherrod
67 McDonald, Nick C/G 6-4 316 24 2 Grand Valley State
62 Dietrich-Smith C/G 6-2 308 25 2 Idaho State
69 Campbell, Chris T 6-5 328 24 1 Eastern Illinois
73 Dominguez, Ray T/G 6-4 334 23 R Arkansas
56 Genus, Sampson C 6-0 315 23 R South Florida
68 Schlaudershit, C/G 6-4 302 23 R Utah



Woodson
Collins
Williams
Burnett
Shields
22 Lee, Pat CB 6-0 196 27 4 Auburn
31 House, Davon CB 6-0 195 22 R New Mexico State
40 Gordy, Josh CB 5-11 195 24 1 Central Michigan
24 Bush, Jarrett CB/S 6-0 200 27 6 Utah State
26 Peprah, Charlie S 5-11 203 28 6 Alabama
43 Jennings, M.D. S 6-0 187 23 R Arkansas State
29 Bratton, Anth S 6-0 213 23 R Delaware
34 Levine, Anthony S 5-11 199 24 1 Tennessee State
28 Underwood, B S/CB 6-1 191 25 3 Cincinnati
Brandian Ross



Matthews
Walden
Zombo (possible IR)
Hawk
Bishop
46 Joseph, Elijah LB 6-1 243 23 R Temple
51 Smith, D.J. LB 5-11 239 22 R Appalachian State
97 So'oto, Vic LB 6-3 263 24 R Brigham Young
59 Jones, Brad LB 6-3 242 25 3 Colorado
48 Jackson, Cardia LB 6-1 236 22 1 Louisiana-Monroe
57 Elmore, Ricky LB 6-4 256 23 R Arizona
49 Francois, Robert LB 6-2 255 26 2 Boston College
46 Joseph, Elijah LB 6-1 243 23 R Temple



Pickett
Neal
Raji
Green
98 Wilson, C.J. DE 6-3 290 24 2 East Carolina
94 Wynn, Jarius DE 6-3 285 25 3 Georgia
91 Guy, Lawrence DE 6-4 304 21 R Arizona State
65 Joseph, Eli DE 6-2 290 23 R Temple
99 Ross, Jay NT 6-3 302 23 1 East Carolina

[pbmax]

gurley too? haven't seen that yet.

Gurley is assumed since Kerry Taylor was apparently told they plan to keep just five WRs. But not confirmed by anyone yet.

[pbmax]

Its official: Gurley gone.

https://twitter.com/#!/TomSilverstein/status/110027183350755328

Now does the phantom sixth WR spot go to a fifth TE or a second FB?

[gbgary]

a te i bet.

[Lurker64]

Its official: Gurley gone.

https://twitter.com/#!/TomSilverstein/status/110027183350755328

Now does the phantom sixth WR spot go to a fifth TE or a second FB?

Our #5 TE plays special teams, our #2 FB does not. That's an easy one.

[RashanGary]

Roster Cuts
65 remaining, 12 to come


(2-3)
Rodgers
Flynn
6 Harrell, Graham QB 6-2 215 26 1 Texas Tech

(4-6)
James Starks
Alex Green
John Kuhn
25 Grant, Ryan RB 6-1 222 28 5 Notre Dame
23 Nance, Dimitri RB 5-10 219 23 2 Arizona State
33 Saine, Brandon RB 5-11 220 22 R Ohio State
45 Johnson, Quinn FB 6-1 263 24 3 Louisiana State
35 Hoese, Jon FB 6-2 238 22 R Minnesota


(5-6)
Greg Jennings
Jordy Nelson
Donald Driver
James Jones
Randall Cobb
9 Smithson, Shaky WR 5-11 202 24 R Utah
11 West, Chastin WR 6-1 216 24 1 Fresno State
86 Gurley, Tori WR 6-4 216 23 R South Carolina
19 Borel, Diondre WR 6-0 199 22 R Utah State
13 Taylor, Kerry WR 6-0 196 22 R Arizona State


(3-5)
Jermichael Finley
81 Quarless, Andre TE 6-4 252 22 2 Penn State
83 Crabtree, Tom TE 6-4 245 25 2 Miami (Ohio)
84 Williams, D.J. TE 6-2 245 22 R Arkansas
Ryan Taylor TE


(8-10)
Clifton
Lang
Wells
Sitton
Bulaga
Newhouse
Sherrod
67 McDonald, Nick C/G 6-4 316 24 2 Grand Valley State
62 Dietrich-Smith C/G 6-2 308 25 2 Idaho State
69 Campbell, Chris T 6-5 328 24 1 Eastern Illinois
73 Dominguez, Ray T/G 6-4 334 23 R Arkansas
56 Genus, Sampson C 6-0 315 23 R South Florida
68 Schlaudershit, C/G 6-4 302 23 R Utah


(9-11)
Woodson
Collins
Williams
Burnett
Shields
22 Lee, Pat CB 6-0 196 27 4 Auburn
31 House, Davon CB 6-0 195 22 R New Mexico State
40 Gordy, Josh CB 5-11 195 24 1 Central Michigan
24 Bush, Jarrett CB/S 6-0 200 27 6 Utah State
26 Peprah, Charlie S 5-11 203 28 6 Alabama
43 Jennings, M.D. S 6-0 187 23 R Arkansas State
29 Bratton, Anth S 6-0 213 23 R Delaware
34 Levine, Anthony S 5-11 199 24 1 Tennessee State
28 Underwood, B S/CB 6-1 191 25 3 Cincinnati
Brandian Ross


(7-11)
Matthews
Walden
Zombo (possible IR)
Hawk
Bishop
46 Joseph, Elijah LB 6-1 243 23 R Temple
51 Smith, D.J. LB 5-11 239 22 R Appalachian State
97 So'oto, Vic LB 6-3 263 24 R Brigham Young
59 Jones, Brad LB 6-3 242 25 3 Colorado
48 Jackson, Cardia LB 6-1 236 22 1 Louisiana-Monroe
57 Elmore, Ricky LB 6-4 256 23 R Arizona
49 Francois, Robert LB 6-2 255 26 2 Boston College
46 Joseph, Elijah LB 6-1 243 23 R Temple


(5-7)
Pickett
Neal
Raji
Green
98 Wilson, C.J. DE 6-3 290 24 2 East Carolina
94 Wynn, Jarius DE 6-3 285 25 3 Georgia
91 Guy, Lawrence DE 6-4 304 21 R Arizona State
65 Joseph, Eli DE 6-2 290 23 R Temple
99 Ross, Jay NT 6-3 302 23 1 East Carolina[/QUOTE]

[RashanGary]

Crabtree is such a good blocker on the move and in line. I don't know why he couldn't block out of the backfield. If you need a road grader there is Raji and EDS.

[Lurker64]

Crabtree is such a good blocker on the move and in line. I don't know why he couldn't block out of the backfield. If you need a road grader there is Raji and EDS.

I'm pretty sure that keeping only 1 FB is not he end of the inverted wishbone formation. I imagine we'll see either a TE or an RB next to Kuhn in that spot, probably makes it so you can run more stuff out of that set, since Quinn was absolutely no threat to run with the ball or catch a pass.

[pbmax]

Bratton is gone.


https://twitter.com/#!/RobDemovsky/status/110028675134668800

[red]

Its official: Gurley gone.

https://twitter.com/#!/TomSilverstein/status/110027183350755328

Now does the phantom sixth WR spot go to a fifth TE or a second FB?

keeping 5 te's and only 5 wr's is just freaking goofy IMO

we run a lot of 4 and 5 wr sets, if one guy gets hurt our whole game plan goes out the window. i've never seen us run a 5 te set

[pbmax]

Slaughterhouse5 is gone and looking like PS candidate. He is nasty and they drafted him for a reason at spot they needed someone. I think they will go some way to secure the guy. He played better at LG in the last preseason game (from McGinn).

https://twitter.com/#!/RobDemovsky/status/110033484252315648

[gbgary]

keeping 5 te's and only 5 wr's is just freaking goofy IMO

we run a lot of 4 and 5 wr sets, if one guy gets hurt our whole game plan goes out the window. i've never seen us run a 5 te set

fin can play wr

[pbmax]

NT Jay Ross is gone. I think he could be a backup down the line. Had some plays against the backups.

https://twitter.com/#!/TomSilverstein/status/110034755310981120

https://twitter.com/#!/RobDemovsky/status/110034216233873408

[pbmax]

https://twitter.com/#!/RobDemovsky/status/110035903149379585

Lawrence Guy waived injured but plan to bring him back to IR for the year according to Demovsky.

[RashanGary]

Roster Cuts
62 remaining, 9 to come


(2-3)
Rodgers
Flynn
6 Harrell, Graham QB 6-2 215 26 1 Texas Tech

(4-6)
James Starks
Alex Green
John Kuhn
Ryan Grant
23 Nance, Dimitri RB 5-10 219 23 2 Arizona State
33 Saine, Brandon RB 5-11 220 22 R Ohio State
45 Johnson, Quinn FB 6-1 263 24 3 Louisiana State
35 Hoese, Jon FB 6-2 238 22 R Minnesota


(5-6)
Greg Jennings
Jordy Nelson
Donald Driver
James Jones
Randall Cobb

9 Smithson, Shaky WR 5-11 202 24 R Utah
11 West, Chastin WR 6-1 216 24 1 Fresno State
86 Gurley, Tori WR 6-4 216 23 R South Carolina
19 Borel, Diondre WR 6-0 199 22 R Utah State
13 Taylor, Kerry WR 6-0 196 22 R Arizona State


(3-5)
Jermichael Finley
81 Quarless, Andre TE 6-4 252 22 2 Penn State
83 Crabtree, Tom TE 6-4 245 25 2 Miami (Ohio)
84 Williams, D.J. TE 6-2 245 22 R Arkansas
Ryan Taylor TE


(8-10)
Clifton
Lang
Wells
Sitton
Bulaga
Newhouse
Sherrod
67 McDonald, Nick C/G 6-4 316 24 2 Grand Valley State
62 Dietrich-Smith C/G 6-2 308 25 2 Idaho State
69 Campbell, Chris T 6-5 328 24 1 Eastern Illinois
73 Dominguez, Ray T/G 6-4 334 23 R Arkansas
56 Genus, Sampson C 6-0 315 23 R South Florida
68 Schlaudershit, C/G 6-4 302 23 R Utah


(9-11)
Woodson
Collins
Williams
Burnett
Shields
22 Lee, Pat CB 6-0 196 27 4 Auburn
31 House, Davon CB 6-0 195 22 R New Mexico State
40 Gordy, Josh CB 5-11 195 24 1 Central Michigan
24 Bush, Jarrett CB/S 6-0 200 27 6 Utah State
26 Peprah, Charlie S 5-11 203 28 6 Alabama
43 Jennings, M.D. S 6-0 187 23 R Arkansas State
34 Levine, Anthony S 5-11 199 24 1 Tennessee State
28 Underwood, B S/CB 6-1 191 25 3 Cincinnati
## Brandian Ross, CB, Somewhere
29 Bratton, Anth S 6-0 213 23 R Delaware



(7-11)
Matthews
Walden
Zombo (possible IR)
Hawk
Bishop
DJ Smith
Vic So'oto
46 Joseph, Elijah LB 6-1 243 23 R Temple
59 Jones, Brad LB 6-3 242 25 3 Colorado
48 Jackson, Cardia LB 6-1 236 22 1 Louisiana-Monroe
57 Elmore, Ricky LB 6-4 256 23 R Arizona
49 Francois, Robert LB 6-2 255 26 2 Boston College
46 Joseph, Elijah LB 6-1 243 23 R Temple


(5-7)
Pickett
Neal
Raji
Green
98 Wilson, C.J. DE 6-3 290 24 2 East Carolina
94 Wynn, Jarius DE 6-3 285 25 3 Georgia
65 Joseph, Eli DE 6-2 290 23 R Temple
99 Ross, Jay NT 6-3 302 23 1 East Carolina
91 Guy, Lawrence DE 6-4 304 21 R Arizona State

[Tony Oday]

So the ones to be cut will be:
Saine
Nance
Smithson
M.D. Jennings
Bratton
Brad Jones
Jackson
Francois
Joseph
Elmore
Taylor

[RashanGary]

Still gotta shit can some linebackers.

[pbmax]

Anyone think Nance can survive since he might have been the best blocking back on 3rd down?

Anyone suspect that it will be Kuhn and McCarthy was simply trying out others to see what he had?

[red]

dear lord,

if you are a true packer fan, like many of us believe. then you will find it in your heart to spare us from watching jarrett bush play defense again this year for us. if you can not force the packers to release him (which if you could have then you would have about 3 years ago), then please strike him down, either with lightning or a meteor, or whatever the fuck brimstone is. the cruel joke that satan has played on us and the team the last few years of convincing the team he has talent, has run its course.

i have not asked you for anything since the super bowl

please spare us from this wickedness this year, we have suffered enough

[RashanGary]

MD Jennings and Dominguez look like the undrafted guys most likely to stick.

[imscott72]

dear lord,

if you are a true packer fan, like many of us believe. then you will find it in your heart to spare us from watching jarrett bush play defense again this year for us. if you can not force the packers to release him (which if you could have then you would have about 3 years ago), then please strike him down, either with lightning or a meteor, or whatever the fuck brimstone is. the cruel joke that satan has played on us and the team the last few years of convincing the team he has talent, has run its course.

i have not asked you for anything since the super bowl

please spare us from this wickedness this year, we have suffered enough

Bush will stick. They love him on ST's..

[RashanGary]

Looks like we might be trying to swing a trade for one of our shitty DB's. Lee maybe?

[mission]

How the hell wasn't Shaky Smithson the first one cut?

[RashanGary]

Bush will stick. They love him on ST's..

Crabtree, Bush, Masthay, Goode, Crosby are our ST's stars. Cobb and Green could join those ranks.

[gbgary]

dear lord,

if you are a true packer fan, like many of us believe. then you will find it in your heart to spare us from watching jarrett bush play defense again this year for us. if you can not force the packers to release him (which if you could have then you would have about 3 years ago), then please strike him down, either with lightning or a meteor, or whatever the fuck brimstone is. the cruel joke that satan has played on us and the team the last few years of convincing the team he has talent, has run its course.

i have not asked you for anything since the super bowl

please spare us from this wickedness this year, we have suffered enough

he may survive today but may not after signings start tomorrow.

[RashanGary]

I'm kind of excited about our punt game this year. Bush might be the best gunner in the NFL and Masthay might be the best punter. Cobb returning punts. Crosby having the same holder for two years in a row. . . . The Bears have always edged us in ST's and somehow beat us when we were the better team. Something tells me we whip their asses this year. No more 300 yards of lost field position or missed field goals.

[Lurker64]

How the hell wasn't Shaky Smithson the first one cut?

He probably was, it's just that none of the beat guys bothered to contact Smithson's agent figuring it was fait accompli.

None of this news is coming from the Packers, it's all just Agents talking to the media.

[RashanGary]

I remember last year, the Packers PR guy coming out and scolding the media for advertizing the young guys losing their jobs. Same song and dance this year, but fans want to know what the team looks like.

[RashanGary]

I'm just gonna shit-can Smithson. That's obvious. Might as well lock So'oto, DJ Smith and Grant up too.

[red]

Crabtree, Bush, Masthay, Goode, Crosby are our ST's stars. Cobb and Green could join those ranks.see, i'm tired, very tired, of the team wasting roster spots for guys that are "special teamers". its a complete waste because shawn slocum is still the specail needs coach

you could give that asshole the 11 greatest special team players of all time, and we'd still suck at coverage and returns

saying bush is a special teams star on our team is like winning a gold medal at the special olympics. congratulations, you're still a retard

[Lurker64]

I remember last year, the Packers PR guy coming out and scolding the media for advertizing the young guys losing their jobs. Same song and dance this year, but fans want to know what the team looks like.

The Packers always release a press release about this an hour or two after the deadline. They don't bother to leak stuff to the media, but if a player or his agent wants to that's their business. I think the Packer front office (rightly) figures that "some guy losing his job" is not something to crow about.

[RashanGary]

Roster Cuts
59 remaining, 6 to come


(2-3)
Rodgers
Flynn
6 Harrell, Graham QB 6-2 215 26 1 Texas Tech



(4-6)
James Starks
Alex Green
John Kuhn
Ryan Grant
23 Nance, Dimitri RB 5-10 219 23 2 Arizona State
33 Saine, Brandon RB 5-11 220 22 R Ohio State

45 Johnson, Quinn FB 6-1 263 24 3 Louisiana State
35 Hoese, Jon FB 6-2 238 22 R Minnesota



(5-6)
Greg Jennings
Jordy Nelson
Donald Driver
James Jones
Randall Cobb

9 Smithson, Shaky WR 5-11 202 24 R Utah
11 West, Chastin WR 6-1 216 24 1 Fresno State
86 Gurley, Tori WR 6-4 216 23 R South Carolina
19 Borel, Diondre WR 6-0 199 22 R Utah State
13 Taylor, Kerry WR 6-0 196 22 R Arizona State



(3-5)
Jermichael Finley
DJ Williams
81 Quarless, Andre TE 6-4 252 22 2 Penn State
83 Crabtree, Tom TE 6-4 245 25 2 Miami (Ohio)
Ryan Taylor TE



(8-10)
Clifton
Lang
Wells
Sitton
Bulaga
Newhouse
Sherrod
67 McDonald, Nick C/G 6-4 316 24 2 Grand Valley State
62 Dietrich-Smith C/G 6-2 308 25 2 Idaho State
69 Campbell, Chris T 6-5 328 24 1 Eastern Illinois
73 Dominguez, Ray T/G 6-4 334 23 R Arkansas

56 Genus, Sampson C 6-0 315 23 R South Florida
68 Schlaudershit, C/G 6-4 302 23 R Utah



(9-11)
Woodson
Collins
Williams
Burnett
Shields
Peprah
22 Lee, Pat CB 6-0 196 27 4 Auburn
31 House, Davon CB 6-0 195 22 R New Mexico State
40 Gordy, Josh CB 5-11 195 24 1 Central Michigan
24 Bush, Jarrett CB/S 6-0 200 27 6 Utah State
43 Jennings, M.D. S 6-0 187 23 R Arkansas State
34 Levine, Anthony S 5-11 199 24 1 Tennessee State

28 Underwood, B S/CB 6-1 191 25 3 Cincinnati
## Brandian Ross, CB, Somewhere
29 Bratton, Anth S 6-0 213 23 R Delaware



(7-11)
Matthews
Walden
Zombo (possible IR)
Hawk
Bishop
DJ Smith
Vic So'oto
46 Joseph, Elijah LB 6-1 243 23 R Temple
59 Jones, Brad LB 6-3 242 25 3 Colorado
48 Jackson, Cardia LB 6-1 236 22 1 Louisiana-Monroe
57 Elmore, Ricky LB 6-4 256 23 R Arizona
49 Francois, Robert LB 6-2 255 26 2 Boston College
46 Joseph, Elijah LB 6-1 243 23 R Temple



(5-7)
Pickett
Neal
Raji
Green
Wynn
98 Wilson, C.J. DE 6-3 290 24 2 East Carolina
65 Joseph, Eli DE 6-2 290 23 R Temple

99 Ross, Jay NT 6-3 302 23 1 East Carolina
91 Guy, Lawrence DE 6-4 304 21 R Arizona State


I threw Jarius Wynn in there. He had a hellofa camp compared to our other guys. Eh, Peprah too.

[RashanGary]

Might be one or two surprises down here. So far it's been fairly predictable. An undrafted guy making it or a trade is likely to happen down the stretch here. MD Jennings and Dominguez are the guys who seem to have potential.

[Guiness]

45 Johnson, Quinn FB 6-1 263 24 3 Louisiana State

Is that official?

[RashanGary]

Do we really have an eli joseph and an elijah joseph on our team, both from temple. That's a little odd.

[imscott72]

Is that official?

I haven't seen anything about Johnson being cut..

[RashanGary]

Is that official?

Not confirmed, but it was said to a reporter by a source, can't get agent to confirm. Makes sense though.

[Bretsky]

CHASTIN WEST IS CUT PER TWITTER....LANCE ALLEN

[red]

CHASTIN WEST IS CUT PER TWITTER....LANCE ALLEN

yes, we know asshole

thatks for rubbing it in though

dick

what a waste

[RashanGary]

Hearing Quinn Johnson may have been released also. Still trying to confirm with his agent.


I'm buying it, because I want to believe it's true.

[Lurker64]

Do we really have an eli joseph and an elijah joseph on our team, both from temple. That's a little odd.

They're twin brothers, I think we signed them as a combo package as UDFAs.

Potentially even odder, the Joseph Brothers' given names are: Elijah and Elisha, which are pronounced more or less the same unless you're being really careful and enunciating the last syllable deliberately.

[Guiness]

How many of the guys we cut do we generally end up putting on our PS? It seems like every second guy feels like the Packers insinuated he'll be a PS player.

IMO the team has already had a long, hard look at the guys they cut, and decided they can't help the team. Bring in new guys for auditions. Keep one or two that you think just need time, but otherwise keep looking at other guys.

West, for instance, already spent a year on the PS. If he didn't make the team yet, he never will.

[red]

They're twin brothers, I think we signed them as a combo package as UDFAs.

Potentially even odder, the Joseph Brothers' given names are: Elijah and Elisha, which are pronounced more or less the same unless you're being really careful and enunciating the last syllable deliberately.

parents must be assholes

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsJ/51188-17920.jpg

[Bretsky]

Per Silverstein DJ Williams is making the team

[Lurker64]

West, for instance, already spent a year on the PS. If he didn't make the team yet, he never will.

Not necessarily... there's potentially a WR roster spot or two available next year with the potential departures of Driver and/or Nelson.

[RashanGary]

Depends on who's picked up by other teams. If we cut 27, maybe 15 of them are guys we'd really like to keep around but 5 of them get scooped. Never know who's going to be there to put on the PS.

[Bretsky]

cut day is kind of a fun one to follow.

[RashanGary]

Per Silverstein DJ Williams is making the team

I'll etch it in because I considered it a near lock anyway.

[Guiness]

CUT DAY IS KIND OF A FUN ONE TO FOLLOW.

fixed.

[red]

cut day is kind of a fun one to follow.

for us, has to suck for all those players

[RashanGary]

Roster Cuts
61 remaining, 8 to come


(2-3)
Rodgers
Flynn
6 Harrell, Graham QB 6-2 215 26 1 Texas Tech



(4-6)
James Starks
Alex Green
John Kuhn
Ryan Grant
23 Nance, Dimitri RB 5-10 219 23 2 Arizona State
33 Saine, Brandon RB 5-11 220 22 R Ohio State

45 Johnson, Quinn FB 6-1 263 24 3 Louisiana State
35 Hoese, Jon FB 6-2 238 22 R Minnesota



(5-6)
Greg Jennings
Jordy Nelson
Donald Driver
James Jones
Randall Cobb

9 Smithson, Shaky WR 5-11 202 24 R Utah
11 West, Chastin WR 6-1 216 24 1 Fresno State
86 Gurley, Tori WR 6-4 216 23 R South Carolina
19 Borel, Diondre WR 6-0 199 22 R Utah State
13 Taylor, Kerry WR 6-0 196 22 R Arizona State



(3-5)
Jermichael Finley
81 Quarless, Andre TE 6-4 252 22 2 Penn State
83 Crabtree, Tom TE 6-4 245 25 2 Miami (Ohio)
84 Williams, D.J. TE 6-2 245 22 R Arkansas
Ryan Taylor TE



(8-10)
Clifton
Lang
Wells
Sitton
Bulaga
Newhouse
Sherrod
67 McDonald, Nick C/G 6-4 316 24 2 Grand Valley State
62 Dietrich-Smith C/G 6-2 308 25 2 Idaho State
69 Campbell, Chris T 6-5 328 24 1 Eastern Illinois
73 Dominguez, Ray T/G 6-4 334 23 R Arkansas

56 Genus, Sampson C 6-0 315 23 R South Florida
68 Schlaudershit, C/G 6-4 302 23 R Utah



(9-11)
Woodson
Collins
Williams
Burnett
Shields
Perah
22 Lee, Pat CB 6-0 196 27 4 Auburn
31 House, Davon CB 6-0 195 22 R New Mexico State
40 Gordy, Josh CB 5-11 195 24 1 Central Michigan
24 Bush, Jarrett CB/S 6-0 200 27 6 Utah State
43 Jennings, M.D. S 6-0 187 23 R Arkansas State

34 Levine, Anthony S 5-11 199 24 1 Tennessee State28 Underwood, B S/CB 6-1 191 25 3 Cincinnati
## Brandian Ross, CB, Somewhere
29 Bratton, Anth S 6-0 213 23 R Delaware



(7-11)
Matthews
Walden
Zombo (possible IR)
Hawk
Bishop
DJ Smith
Vic So'oto
46 Joseph, Elijah LB 6-1 243 23 R Temple
59 Jones, Brad LB 6-3 242 25 3 Colorado
48 Jackson, Cardia LB 6-1 236 22 1 Louisiana-Monroe
57 Elmore, Ricky LB 6-4 256 23 R Arizona
49 Francois, Robert LB 6-2 255 26 2 Boston College
46 Joseph, Elijah LB 6-1 243 23 R Temple



(5-7)
Pickett
Neal
Raji
Green
98 Wilson, C.J. DE 6-3 290 24 2 East Carolina
94 Wynn, Jarius DE 6-3 285 25 3 Georgia
65 Joseph, Eli DE 6-2 290 23 R Temple

99 Ross, Jay NT 6-3 302 23 1 East Carolina
91 Guy, Lawrence DE 6-4 304 21 R Arizona State

[Bretsky]

I'll etch it in because I considered it a near lock anyway.

U wanna to beat up HH or should I in the GC ? :)

[RashanGary]

U wanna to beat up HH or should I in the GC ? :)

Oh, god, I hate HH

[Lurker64]

for us, has to suck for all those players

Even for the ones who don't end up getting cut, but they spend the day dreading the turk anyway. Especially for those bottom of the roster guys who make the final 53, but still can't be sure they won't be cut if the team claims a cut from another team on waivers.

[RashanGary]

I don't know. We're pretty deep. Gurley, West and QJohnson are gonna be in the NFL for more than a couple years. It's not like we have 53 legit NFLers though. Maybe we're spoiled. We want Randall Cobb's at the back end of every position.

[pbmax]

MD Jennings and Dominguez look like the undrafted guys most likely to stick.

So'oto?

[imscott72]

Levine to be cut..

[RashanGary]

So'oto?

Oh yeah, I locked him in. Forgot he was once considered a long shot.

Zombo looked like a beast this year. H leaned out. He was destroying one on ones. Of the guys who took more than a handful or two of reps, he was our best pass rusher. He looked light on his feet, strong. . . .

It will be fun to see So'oto lean out and become a LB. That sack where Matthews hovered 18 inches off the ground laterally. About 10 minutes later, So'oto did the same thing. Of course Matthews was better, but comparing the two, I was shocked how close So'oto looked to Matthews on his sack.

[RashanGary]

Levine to be cut..

Got it.

[pbmax]

https://twitter.com/#!/RobDemovsky/status/110039617637597184

Demovsky says its a definite PS offer to B Ross the DB.

[vince]

Levine to be cut..
So it's either Doc Jennings, they go with 3 plus Bush or pick up a guy off the street... I think it'll be the Doc.

[pbmax]

Whoever call the 3 safety post cut day roster looks like a genius so far:

https://twitter.com/#!/TomSilverstein/status/110053393543856128

Levine gone.

[pbmax]

Here is 'Spoon's Tweet about DJ Williams as the 5th TE.

https://twitter.com/#!/TomSilverstein/status/110047828298055680

[pbmax]

see, i'm tired, very tired, of the team wasting roster spots for guys that are "special teamers". its a complete waste because shawn slocum is still the specail needs coach

you could give that asshole the 11 greatest special team players of all time, and we'd still suck at coverage and returns

saying bush is a special teams star on our team is like winning a gold medal at the special olympics. congratulations, you're still a retard

OK. Forget ST. Who are the two better corners getting cut than Bush and Lee?

Gordy? Ross? Underwood? The other guy I am blanking on?

[Lurker64]

So it's either Doc Jennings, they go with 3 plus Bush or pick up a guy off the street... I think it'll be the Doc.

You could always keep 3 safeties and just figure that one of our big CBs with terrible ball skills (like Lee or Bush) could play that spot in a pinch.

[HarveyWallbangers]

(7-11)
Matthews
Walden
Zombo (possible IR)
Hawk
Bishop
DJ Smith
Vic So'oto
46 Joseph, Elijah LB 6-1 243 23 R Temple
59 Jones, Brad LB 6-3 242 25 3 Colorado
48 Jackson, Cardia LB 6-1 236 22 1 Louisiana-Monroe
57 Elmore, Ricky LB 6-4 256 23 R Arizona
49 Francois, Robert LB 6-2 255 26 2 Boston College
46 Joseph, Elijah LB 6-1 243 23 R Temple


What's the word on Lattimore?

[pbmax]

Dougherty says Gordy still hanging in there:

https://twitter.com/#!/PeteDougherty/status/110053940179111936

[vince]

What's the word on Lattimore?
no word yet.

[pbmax]

What's the word on Lattimore?

You Lattimores, always sticking together. :D

[red]

davon house makes the team, sorry but he will

and josh gordy has flashed more potential in pre season then lee or bush ever have

[imscott72]

You could always keep 3 safeties and just figure that one of our big CBs with terrible ball skills (like Lee or Bush) could play that spot in a pinch.

Bush has played some safety hasn't he?

[pbmax]

I am with you on House, but even if he is number 4, that leaves 1 or 2 spots. Not as convinced on Gordy, but its so close, that ST has to be the final call.

[RashanGary]

Roster Cuts
59 remaining, 6 to come


SETTLED (2)
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Flynn

Grahm Harrell


SETTLED (5)
Greg Jennings
Jordy Nelson
Donald Driver
James Jones
Randall Cobb

Shakey Smithson
Chastin West
Tori Gurley
Diondre borel
Kerry Talor


(4-6)
4 LOCKED
James Starks
Alex Green
John Kuhn
Ryan Grant
Dimitri Nance
Brandon Saine

Quinn Johnson
Jon Hoese



(3-5)
2 LOCKED
Jermichael Finley
DJ WILLIAMS
Andrew Quarless
Tom Crabree
Ryan Taylor



(8-10)
7 LOCKED
Chad Clifton
TJ Lang
Scotty Wells
Josh Shitton
Brian Bulaga
Marshall Newhouse
Derrek Sherrod
Nick McDonald C/G
Evan Dietrich-Smith C/G
Chris Campbell T
Ray Dominguez T/G

Genus, Sampson C
Schlaudershit, C/G



(9-11)
7 LOCKED
Charles Woodson
Nick Collins
Tramon Williams
Morgan Burnett
Sam Shields
Charlie Peprah
Jarett Bush
Pat Lee CB
Josh Gordy CB
M.D. Jennings S

Anthony Levine
Brandon Underwood, B S/CB
Brandian Ross, CB
Anthony Bratton S



(7-11)
9 LOCKED
Clay Matthews
Erik Walden
Frank Zombo (possible IR)
AJ Hawk
Desmond Bishop
DJ Smith
Vic So'oto
Jamarai Lattimore
Robert Francois
Elijah Joseph
Brad Jones
Cardia Jackson
Ricky Elmore



(5-7)
5 LOCKED
Ryan Pickett
Mike Neal
BJ Raji
Howard Green
Jarius Wynn
CJ Wilson
Eli Joseph

Jay Ross, NT
Lawrence Guy, DE

[pbmax]

Yes. Spent training camp last year at the spot. A little time there this year.

[red]

I am with you on House, but even if he is number 4, that leaves 1 or 2 spots. Not as convinced on Gordy, but its so close, that ST has to be the final call.

md jennings has looked good on special teams

i'd rather have him over bush

[imscott72]

Sounds like Lattimore and Francois are going to stick..

[red]

Bush has played some safety hasn't he?

i wouldn't say what he did at that position was "playing safety"

[pbmax]

Silverstein: Lattimore and Francois likely to stick; unofficially.

https://twitter.com/#!/TomSilverstein/status/110057853007572992

That's nine backers, no? Matthews, Walden, Zombo, Lattimore, So'oto, Hawk, Bishop, Francois, Smith?

[RashanGary]

If you get rid of Nance, Saine, Eli Joseph, Elija Joseph, and OT Cambell and then you lock in the TE's and Jarrett Bush. . . .

You're left with 13 guys fighting for 6 spots.

Graham Harrell
Nick McDonald
Dietrich Smith
Pat Lee J
Josh Gordy
Davon House
MD Jennings
Brad Jones
Cardia Jackson
Ricky Elmore
Lattimore
Francois
CJ Wilson

[red]

Silverstein: Lattimore and Francois likely to stick; unofficially.

https://twitter.com/#!/TomSilverstein/status/110057853007572992

That's nine backers, no? Matthews, Walden, Zombo, Lattimore, So'oto, Hawk, Bishop, Francois, Smith?

seems like a lot

wonder if zombo is going to the IR, or the PUP

[imscott72]

If you get rid of Nance, Saine, Eli Joseph, Elija Joseph, and OT Cambell and then you lock in the TE's and Jarrett Bush. . . .

You're left with 13 guys fighting for 6 spots.

Graham Harrell
Nick McDonald
Dietrich Smith
Pat Lee J
Josh Gordy
Davon House
MD Jennings
Brad Jones
Cardia Jackson
Ricky Elmore
Lattimore
Francois
CJ Wilson

Take Lattimore and Francois off that list, although not official..

[RashanGary]

If you get rid of Nance, Saine, Eli Joseph, Elija Joseph, and OT Cambell and then you lock in the TE's and Jarrett Bush. . . .

You're left with 11 guys fighting for 4 spots.

Graham Harrell
Nick McDonald
Dietrich Smith
Pat Lee J
Josh Gordy
Davon House
MD Jennings
Brad Jones
Cardia Jackson
Ricky Elmore
CJ Wilson

[Iron Mike]

http://jkfinancialinc.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/gomer-pyle-surprise.jpg?w=540&h=466

needs one more "surprise".


http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000824249/polls_GomerSurprise_1140_696117_answer_1_xlarge.jp eg

[Guiness]

seems like a lot

wonder if zombo is going to the IR, or the PUP

Can't PUP, he played in camp. Can only PUP if he doesn't play (or practice?) in TC.

[Guiness]

McDonald on the bubble, is he? I would think they keep 9 OL, so two of these guys stay
67 McDonald, Nick C/G 6-4 316 24 2 Grand Valley State
62 Dietrich-Smith C/G 6-2 308 25 2 Idaho State
69 Campbell, Chris T 6-5 328 24 1 Eastern Illinois
73 Dominguez, Ray T/G 6-4 334 23 R Arkansas

I wonder if Harrell stays or not? I don't know what to make of his play against KC. He didn't look great, but he was out there with mostly 3's, playing against a lot of KC's 1's.

[imscott72]

Graham Harrell cut..

[RashanGary]

Graham Harrell cut..

I'll put it in.

[pbmax]

https://twitter.com/#!/RobDemovsky/status/110063170424549378

TE Ryan Taylor on team. That means 4 TEs minimum.

[pbmax]

Graham Harrell cut..

Yep. https://twitter.com/#!/TomSilverstein/status/110063356605513728

[gbgary]

Sounds like Lattimore and Francois are going to stick..

i figured francois would...didn't have a feeling about lattimore.

[pbmax]

Graham Harrell cut..

With this and 5 WR and 3 safeties, I think we will have the NFL's first instance of two FBs and 5 TEs.

[vince]

With Lattimore sticking, I'd think Brad Jones is cut.

[imscott72]

Nick McDonald cut, which means Dietrich-Smith is in..

[gbgary]

a little surprised about harrell.

[RashanGary]

ROSTER CUTS
47 Locked
6 Open spots


Looks to me like we're keeping
Crabtree
Dominguez
Lee
Gordy
MD Jennings
and
CJ Wilson




SETTLED (2)
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Flynn

Grahm Harrell


SETTLED (5)
Greg Jennings
Jordy Nelson
Donald Driver
James Jones
Randall Cobb

Shakey Smithson
Chastin West
Tori Gurley
Diondre borel
Kerry Talor



SETTLED (3)
Tim Masthay
Mason Crosby
Brett Goode



(4-6)
4 LOCKED
James Starks
Alex Green
John Kuhn
Ryan Grant

Dimitri Nance
Brandon Saine

Quinn Johnson
Jon Hoese



(3-5)
4 LOCKED
Jermichael Finley
DJ Williams
Ryan Taylor
Andrew Quarless
Tom Crabree



(8-10)
8 LOCKED
Chad Clifton T
TJ Lang G
Scotty Wells C
Josh Shitton G
Brian Bulaga T
Marshall Newhouse T
Evan Dietrich Smith C/G
Derrek Sherrod T
Chris Campbell T
Ray Dominguez T/G

Genus, Sampson C
Schlaudershit, C/G
Nick McDonald C/G



(9-11)
7 LOCKED
Charles Woodson
Nick Collins
Tramon Williams
Morgan Burnett
Sam Shields
Charlie Peprah
Jarett Bush
Pat Lee CB
Josh Gordy CB
M.D. Jennings S

Anthony Levine
Brandon Underwood, B S/CB
Brandian Ross, CB
Anthony Bratton S



(7-11)
9 LOCKED
Clay Matthews
Erik Walden
Frank Zombo (possible IR)
AJ Hawk
Desmond Bishop
DJ Smith
Vic So'oto
Jamarai Lattimore
Robert Francois
Elijah Joseph
Brad Jones
Cardia Jackson
Ricky Elmore



(5-7)
5 LOCKED
Ryan Pickett
Mike Neal
BJ Raji
Howard Green
Jarius Wynn
CJ Wilson
Eli Joseph

Jay Ross, NT
Lawrence Guy, DE

[Brandon494]

I kinda glad we cut Harrell, Cobb can be our 3rd QB.

[pbmax]

Too bad. McDonald gone.

http://twitter.com/PeteDougherty/status/110065810705354754

[RashanGary]

https://twitter.com/#!/RobDemovsky/status/110063170424549378

TE Ryan Taylor on team. That means 4 TEs minimum.

Was Quarless quoted as a lock or are you just thinking he's good enough and penciled him in?

[pbmax]

Was Quarless quoted as a lock or are you just thinking he's good enough and penciled him in?

My guess. Quarless has looked better this preseason than at any point last year, pre, regular or post season. I can't see how he gets cut. ST, blocking improved and hands seem more sure. He's not Finley, but can do damage and fits roster well.

[gbgary]

*

[Lurker64]

a little surprised about harrell.

QBs that are as good as he is aren't particularly hard to find.

[gbgary]

QBs that are as good as he is aren't particularly hard to find.

i was thinking along the lines of only having two qbs. harrell seemed ok for a third.

[Lurker64]

i was thinking along the lines of only having two qbs. harrell seemed ok for a third.

Randall Cobb is our emergency QB. Harrell wouldn't have been a game day active anyway.

[gbgary]

Randall Cobb is our emergency QB. Harrell wouldn't have been a game day active anyway.

makes sense.

[imscott72]

QBs that are as good as he is aren't particularly hard to find.

They better get Flynn extended..

[Brandon494]

My guess. Quarless has looked better this preseason than at any point last year, pre, regular or post season. I can't see how he gets cut. ST, blocking improved and hands seem more sure. He's not Finley, but can do damage and fits roster well.

I definitely was not a fan of Quarless last season like most but its clear the guy really put in the work during the offseason.

[Lurker64]

They better get Flynn extended..

You can probably draft literally any draftable QB prospect next April, put him through QB school, and he'll be better than Harrell. Draft Case Keenum in the sixth round, he's basically the same player as Harrell except he's got a better arm.

You could sign Colt Brennan away from the UFL too if you're enamored with players like Harrell.

[gbgary]

You can probably draft literally any draftable QB prospect next April, put him through QB school, and he'll be better than Harrell. Draft Chase Keenum in the sixth round, he's basically the same player as Harrell except he's got a better arm.

i hear ya but we never saw him with #1s around him. just sayin'.

[RashanGary]

ROSTER CUTS
47 Locked
6 Open spots


Looks to me like we're keeping
Crabtree
Dominguez
Lee
Gordy
MD Jennings
and
CJ Wilson




SETTLED (2)
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Flynn

Grahm Harrell


SETTLED (5)
Greg Jennings
Jordy Nelson
Donald Driver
James Jones
Randall Cobb

Shakey Smithson
Chastin West
Tori Gurley
Diondre borel
Kerry Talor



SETTLED (3)
Tim Masthay
Mason Crosby
Brett Goode



(4-6)
4 LOCKED
James Starks
Alex Green
John Kuhn
Ryan Grant

Dimitri Nance
Brandon Saine

Quinn Johnson
Jon Hoese



(3-5)
4 LOCKED
Jermichael Finley
DJ Williams
Ryan Taylor
Andrew Quarless
Tom Crabree



(8-10)
8 LOCKED
Chad Clifton T
TJ Lang G
Scotty Wells C
Josh Shitton G
Brian Bulaga T
Marshall Newhouse T
Evan Dietrich Smith C/G
Derrek Sherrod T
Chris Campbell T
Ray Dominguez T/G

Genus, Sampson C
Schlaudershit, C/G
Nick McDonald C/G



(9-11)
7 LOCKED
Charles Woodson
Nick Collins
Tramon Williams
Morgan Burnett
Sam Shields
Charlie Peprah
Jarett Bush
Pat Lee CB
Josh Gordy CB
M.D. Jennings S

Anthony Levine
Brandon Underwood, B S/CB
Brandian Ross, CB
Anthony Bratton S



(7-11)
9 LOCKED
Clay Matthews
Erik Walden
Frank Zombo (possible IR)
AJ Hawk
Desmond Bishop
DJ Smith
Vic So'oto
Jamarai Lattimore
Robert Francois
Elijah Joseph
Brad Jones
Cardia Jackson
Ricky Elmore



(5-7)
5 LOCKED
Ryan Pickett
Mike Neal
BJ Raji
Howard Green
Jarius Wynn
CJ Wilson
Eli Joseph

Jay Ross, NT
Lawrence Guy, DE

[Brandon494]

I think we'll end up resigning Flynn, hes not starting QB material IMO. Great backup though.

[vince]

You can probably draft literally any draftable QB prospect next April, put him through QB school, and he'll be better than Harrell. Draft Chase Keenum in the sixth round, he's basically the same player as Harrell except he's got a better arm.
That QB is unlikely to be as versed as Harrell in this offense next year. It's a risk, but we've seen that Thompson and McCarthy are not unwilling to take them.

Harrell dropped the ball way too much in the preseason. It seemed like he fumbled damn near every time he got hit, had some poor exchanges with running backs and had the time he just dropped the ball raising his arm to pass. You don't take care of the ball as a QB, you can't play. Maybe his hands are just too small.

[wootah]

I think we'll end up resigning Flynn, hes not starting QB material IMO. Great backup though.

I surely wouldn't mind, but I think those odds are slim; he (and Arod btw) have stated mulptiple times that he will start for a team somewhere down the line. I think he'll move to another team where he can compete to be the number one.

[wootah]

Per Silverstein;

#Packers will keep safety MD Jennings on the 53-man roster.

[gbgary]

*

[pbmax]

MD Jennings, Medicine Safety is in.

https://twitter.com/#!/TomSilverstein/status/110073215904256000

[vince]

The Doc is in the house.

[gbgary]

MD Jennings, Medicine Safety is in.

https://twitter.com/#!/TomSilverstein/status/110073215904256000

the doctor.

[vince]

ROSTER CUTS
47 Locked
6 Open spots


Looks to me like we're keeping
Crabtree
Dominguez
Lee
Gordy
MD Jennings
and
CJ Wilson




SETTLED (2)
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Flynn

Grahm Harrell


SETTLED (5)
Greg Jennings
Jordy Nelson
Donald Driver
James Jones
Randall Cobb

Shakey Smithson
Chastin West
Tori Gurley
Diondre borel
Kerry Talor



SETTLED (3)
Tim Masthay
Mason Crosby
Brett Goode



(4-6)
4 LOCKED
James Starks
Alex Green
John Kuhn
Ryan Grant

Dimitri Nance
Brandon Saine

Quinn Johnson
Jon Hoese



(3-5)
4 LOCKED
Jermichael Finley
DJ Williams
Ryan Taylor
Andrew Quarless
Tom Crabree



(8-10)
8 LOCKED
Chad Clifton T
TJ Lang G
Scotty Wells C
Josh Shitton G
Brian Bulaga T
Marshall Newhouse T
Evan Dietrich Smith C/G
Derrek Sherrod T
Chris Campbell T
Ray Dominguez T/G

Genus, Sampson C
Schlaudershit, C/G
Nick McDonald C/G



(9-11)
7 LOCKED
Charles Woodson
Nick Collins
Tramon Williams
Morgan Burnett
Sam Shields
Charlie Peprah
Jarett Bush
Pat Lee CB
Josh Gordy CB
M.D. Jennings S

Anthony Levine
Brandon Underwood, B S/CB
Brandian Ross, CB
Anthony Bratton S



(7-11)
9 LOCKED
Clay Matthews
Erik Walden
Frank Zombo (possible IR)
AJ Hawk
Desmond Bishop
DJ Smith
Vic So'oto
Jamarai Lattimore
Robert Francois
Elijah Joseph
Brad Jones
Cardia Jackson
Ricky Elmore



(5-7)
5 LOCKED
Ryan Pickett
Mike Neal
BJ Raji
Howard Green
Jarius Wynn
CJ Wilson
Eli Joseph

Jay Ross, NT
Lawrence Guy, DE
You have Johnson cut. That's speculation at this point correct?
It'd be a bit of a surprise (to me anyway) to see both Lee and Gordy (with Bush too) on the 53. I know you need a lot of corners these days, but those guys are toast waiting to burn.

It also looks like you do not have House on the list there...

[red]

cool, well deserved by that kid

[Lurker64]

MD Jennings, Medicine Safety is in.

https://twitter.com/#!/TomSilverstein/status/110073215904256000

Packers to lead the league in initialed forenames: A.J. Hawk, B.J. Raji, C.J Wilson. D.J. Williams, D.J. Smith, T.J. Lang, and M.D. Jennings.

We should see what Buffalo wants for C.J. Spiller and maybe the sign E.J. Henderson next year if the Vikings let him walk.

[pbmax]

You have Johnson cut. That's speculation at this point correct?
It'd be a bit of a surprise (to me anyway) to see both Lee and Gordy (with Bush too) on the 53. I know you need a lot of corners these days, but those guys are toast waiting to burn.

It also looks like you do not have House on the list there...

That was a report of someone who believed Johnson to be a goner. It was Tweeted from the local guys, but source is unknown. Phrased in a way it might not have been either player or agent reporting it.

Update: It was Kareem Copeland reporting that this is what he was hearing. But no agent confirmation yet.

https://twitter.com/#!/kareemcopeland/status/110031885467521024

[gbgary]

that's funny. you had them alphabetically until the end.

fixed...

Packers to lead the league in initialed forenames: A.J. Hawk, B.J. Raji, C.J Wilson, D.J. Smith, D.J. Williams, M.D. Jennings, and T.J. Lang.

[vince]

That was a report of someone who believed Johnson to be a goner. It was Tweeted from the local guys, but source is unknown. Phrased in a way it might not have been either player or agent reporting it.

Update: It was Kareem Copeland reporting that this is what he was hearing. But no agent confirmation yet.

https://twitter.com/#!/kareemcopeland/status/110031885467521024
Ah, thanks PB. It's looking like props to Joe for calling Dominguez.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Per Silverstein;

#Packers will keep safety MD Jennings on the 53-man roster.

Did anybody in this forum call this one?

[Lurker64]

Did anybody in this forum call this one?

In retrospect, it should have been obvious. He's got the hair to play in the defensive backfield for this team:

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/photo_images/3523131/85097_Packers_Camp_Football.jpg

[vince]

Did anybody in this forum call this one?
It seems to me that Fritz was talking him up pretty early on. Fritz is the man.

[gbgary]

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[Lurker64]

shakey makes it.

Huh?

http://twitter.com/TomSilverstein/status/110083452346449920

"I can confirm that the #Packers are not keeping WR Shaky Smithson."

[wootah]

In retrospect, it should have been obvious. He's got the hair to play in the defensive backfield for this team

It cannot be understated how important hairstyle is to coach capers.
http://www.steelersuk.com/steelers/players/bw/dom-capers-200.jpg

[gbgary]

Huh?

http://twitter.com/TomSilverstein/status/110083452346449920

"I can confirm that the #Packers are not keeping WR Shaky Smithson."

typo. lol

[rbaloha1]

I think we'll end up resigning Flynn, hes not starting QB material IMO. Great backup though.

Disagree. Free Agent next season. Some team views Flynn as the guy. Recall Hasselback, Brunell, Brooks, etc.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Capers may have one of the worst rugs in western world. that photo does not do it justice

[gbgary]

Capers may have one of the worst rugs in western world. that photo does not do it justice

looks more like a comb-over than a rug.

[Harlan Huckleby]

http:// www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Dom+Capers+Super+Bowl+XLV+Media+Day+l6LseLF6WPil.j pg

That's some fur up there.

[pbmax]

https://twitter.com/#!/QuinnJohnson_45/status/110085206593118208

Quinn still alive and Tweeting.

[Harlan Huckleby]

shit, somebody shoot him

[vince]

Davon House is on the 53 according to Silverstein.

[Brandon494]

Disagree. Free Agent next season. Some team views Flynn as the guy. Recall Hasselback, Brunell, Brooks, etc.

Hes not Hasselback, Brunell, or Brooks.

What team would he start for?

[Lurker64]

Hes not Hasselback, Brunell, or Brooks.

What team would he start for?

Bengals? Flynn may be better than Andy Dalton, he's got a better arm at this point since Dalton just can't make all of the NFL throws.

He could conceivably also could win the starting job for the Redskins or Seahawks. None of Grossman, Beck, Jackson, or Whitehurst have a serious lean on Flynn in the QB Skills department.

You expect some of those teams will have better options than Matt Flynn come next spring though.

[imscott72]

Bengals? Flynn may be better than Andy Dalton, he's got a better arm at this point since Dalton just can't make all of the NFL throws.

He could conceivably also could win the starting job for the Redskins or Seahawks. None of Grossman, Beck, Jackson, or Whitehurst have a serious lean on Flynn in the QB Skills department.

You expect some of those teams will have better options than Matt Flynn come next spring though.

I think Ted extends Flynn this season for a year or two. If Harrell doesn't get on the PS, we'd have nobody behind #1.

[red]

Hes not Hasselback, Brunell, or Brooks.

What team would he start for?

cinci, buffalo, miami, cleveland, oakland, san fran, seattle, minnesota, washington

flynn would have competed for a starting job at those teams, and could have been the starter at any of them this year IMO

your flynn hate is really just ridiculous at this point

hell brunell hasselback and brooks never showed anything other then in the preseason. they never got on the field when it counted because of #4

[imscott72]

Smithson to the IR is the word..

[Joemailman]

Silverstein: Lattimore and Francois likely to stick; unofficially.

https://twitter.com/#!/TomSilverstein/status/110057853007572992

That's nine backers, no? Matthews, Walden, Zombo, Lattimore, So'oto, Hawk, Bishop, Francois, Smith?

Does that mean Brad Jones is gone?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Not necessarily. Especially with Zombo injured. I think Pittsburgh has often carried more than 8 LBs. You don't want to give up good OLB prospects in this scheme.

[smuggler]

Why would Smithson go on IR? He was fine at the end of the Chiefs game.

[Joemailman]

Not necessarily. Especially with Zombo injured. I think Pittsburgh has often carried more than 8 LBs. You don't want to give up good OLB prospects in this scheme.

But it looks like they might have 9 (if they keep Lattimore) without Jones. You think they'd keep 10?

[HarveyWallbangers]

But it looks like they might have 9 (if they keep Lattimore) without Jones. You think they'd keep 10?

Forgot they kept Lattimore. 10 would probably be a little high, and Jones has done nothing this camp. I wouldn't be surprised if Jones got caught.

[Joemailman]

Jones might be a good fit in a 4-3. I wonder if TT is trying to trade him.

[bobblehead]

Jones might be a good fit in a 4-3. I wonder if TT is trying to trade him.

I thought he played OLB in a NFL style 3-4 all through college. I don't know where he is better in a 4-3.

[Joemailman]

Like Nick Barnett, he's not overly physical and may need the protection that 4 D-linemen provide. The Packers use only 2 most of the time.

[imscott72]

Why would Smithson go on IR? He was fine at the end of the Chiefs game.

I honestly have no idea what they're up to with him.

[imscott72]

#Packers have traded G Caleb Schlauderaff to the NY Jets for a conditional draft pick..

[Tony Oday]

#Packers have traded G Caleb Schlauderaff to the NY Jets for a conditional draft pick..

TT robshe Giants would have been more accurate.

[Lurker64]

I think Ted extends Flynn this season for a year or two. If Harrell doesn't get on the PS, we'd have nobody behind #1.

Too expensive, probably. TT was in the exact same situation with no QBs behind Rodgers going into the 2008 season, he just drafted a couple of guys to be backups. I don't think TT and MM worry about having a rookie backup QB.

[Brandon494]

cinci, buffalo, miami, cleveland, oakland, san fran, seattle, minnesota, washington

flynn would have competed for a starting job at those teams, and could have been the starter at any of them this year IMO

your flynn hate is really just ridiculous at this point

hell brunell hasselback and brooks never showed anything other then in the preseason. they never got on the field when it counted because of #4

How is it hate? I'm just not going to get all giggy over Flynn after one game against the leagues worst pass defense. Hes athletic but does not have the arm strength IMO to be a quality starter.

Cincy- They aren't going to try and sign Flynn after drafting Dalton with a high pick and Dalton has more potential.

Buffalo- Ryan Fitzpatrick is the better QB

Miami- He could compete with Henne but I suspect the Dolphins are looking for a bigger name then Flynn.

Cleveland- McCoy is the future QB of the Browns with more potential.

Oakland- Jason Campbell is the better QB

SF- Alex Smith is just as good and they used a high pick on Kaepernick who has more potential.

Seattle- He could start here

Vikings- McNabb is the better QB

Washington- Mike Shanahan seems pretty set on John beck but he could compete.

So of the teams you listed he could start on the Bengals, Dolphins, 49ers, Seattle, and Washington. Of those 5 teams Bengals and 49ers have younger QBs with more pontential so take them out of the running to try to sign him. That leaves Fins, Seattle and Washington, I'm guessing one of those teams will use a top high pick on a QB so that leaves it to around two teams that might show interest and its not even certain that they would make an offer. Its not like Flynn is a hot commodity in the NFL. TT will end up signing him to a 2-3 year deal. Hes game is very similar to Seneca Wallace, started a few games but hes not someone you want to build your team around.

[Brandon494]

Too expensive, probably. TT was in the exact same situation with no QBs behind Rodgers going into the 2008 season, he just drafted a couple of guys to be backups. I don't think TT and MM worry about having a rookie backup QB.

TT has also shown that he likes to resign his draft picks. Flynn would make around 2-3 million a year.

[imscott72]

Sounds like Quinn Johnson has been traded to the Titans..

[imscott72]

Too expensive, probably. TT was in the exact same situation with no QBs behind Rodgers going into the 2008 season, he just drafted a couple of guys to be backups. I don't think TT and MM worry about having a rookie backup QB.

Yes but you have to consider Rodgers concussion history now. We need a solid backup.

[smuggler]

I am reading that Schladershit went to the Jets

[channtheman]

Sounds like Quinn Johnson has been traded to the Titans..

Suckers.

[imscott72]

Suckers.

They're regular FB just got suspended for PED's..

[Brandon494]

Titans style of offense is the perfect fit for Johnson.

[Joemailman]

I am reading that Schladershit went to the Jets

For a conditional draft pick.

[Guiness]

Wow, TT doing a great job turning the bottom of the roster into draft picks.

[Brando19]

How is it hate? I'm just not going to get all giggy over Flynn after one game against the leagues worst pass defense. Hes athletic but does not have the arm strength IMO to be a quality starter.

Cincy- They aren't going to try and sign Flynn after drafting Dalton with a high pick and Dalton has more potential.

Buffalo- Ryan Fitzpatrick is the better QB

Miami- He could compete with Henne but I suspect the Dolphins are looking for a bigger name then Flynn.

Cleveland- McCoy is the future QB of the Browns with more potential.

Oakland- Jason Campbell is the better QB

SF- Alex Smith is just as good and they used a high pick on Kaepernick who has more potential.

Seattle- He could start here

Vikings- McNabb is the better QB

Washington- Mike Shanahan seems pretty set on John beck but he could compete.

So of the teams you listed he could start on the Bengals, Dolphins, 49ers, Seattle, and Washington. Of those 5 teams Bengals and 49ers have younger QBs with more pontential so take them out of the running to try to sign him. That leaves Fins, Seattle and Washington, I'm guessing one of those teams will use a top high pick on a QB so that leaves it to around two teams that might show interest and its not even certain that they would make an offer. Its not like Flynn is a hot commodity in the NFL. TT will end up signing him to a 2-3 year deal. Hes game is very similar to Seneca Wallace, started a few games but hes not someone you want to build your team around.

I agree with everything except the Alex Smith comment. Smith is a complete BUST and I believe Flynn right now is the better QB.

[imscott72]

We kept 10 LB's..Jones made it too..Wow..

[Guiness]

I agree with everything except the Alex Smith comment. Smith is a complete BUST and I believe Flynn right now is the better QB.

Campell is questionable as well...but after being here, I bet Flynn would beg TT to let him stay rather than go start in Oakland!!!

Dalton might also benefit from a year on the bench. Is he pegged as the starter there?

[imscott72]

Okay, cuts are in : WR Diondre Borel, S Anthony Bratton, T Chris Campbell, T/G Ray Dominguez, NT Chris Donaldson, LB Ricky Elmore, C Sampson Genus, CB Josh Gordy, WR Tori Gurley, QB Graham Harrell, FB Jon Hoese, LB Cardia Jackson, DE Eli Joseph, LB Elijah Joseph, S Anthony Levine, C/G Nick McDonald, RB Dimitri Nance, CB Brandian Ross, NT Jay Ross, RB Brandon Saine, WR Kerry Taylor, S/CB Brandon Underwood and WR Chastin West.

[retailguy]

has anyone else ever kept 5TE's?

[imscott72]

has anyone else ever kept 5TE's?

I'd like to know also..And 5 WR's although I heard earlier today the Bronco's were only keeping 4 WR's..

[Guiness]

With only 1 FB, you have to think one of those TE's will be considered an H-Back. Not like FB's carry the ball anyways.

[Joemailman]

5 TE's and 10 LB's. Special teams continues to be a focus.

[Brandon494]

While I wish we would have kept another receiver but I understand only keeping five when Finley can line up outside. Also understand keeping 5 TEs with only one FB.

[retailguy]

While I wish we would have kept another receiver but I understand only keeping five when Finley can line up outside. Also understand keeping 5 TEs with only one FB.

They're gonna teach Crabtree to line up outside, just to piss you off.

[Joemailman]

Guy and Smithson to IR. How does Smithson get on IR? Last think I saw him do was fumble a punt.

[imscott72]

Good news on Zombo then. Maybe he is only a few weeks away..

[Lurker64]

Guy and Smithson to IR. How does Smithson get on IR? Last think I saw him do was fumble a punt.

I think his shoulder is messed up. He was "Out(Shoulder)" a lot, so that might mean he needs surgery.

"A guy needs surgery, and will be out a number of weeks" is a plausible reason for putting someone on IR, last time I checked.

[Fosco33]

I'd like to know also..And 5 WR's although I heard earlier today the Bronco's were only keeping 4 WR's..

I think Cards had 5TEs at their 53 yesterday... doesn't mean anything yet as they'll make more moves.

[Joemailman]

QBs (2): Aaron Rodgers and Matt Flynn

RBs (4): Ryan Grant, James Starks, John Kuhn and Alex Green

TEs (5): Jermichael Finley, Andrew Quarless, Tom Crabtree, Ryan Taylor, D.J. Williams

WRs (5): Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson, James Jones, Randall Cobb

OL (8): Chad Clifton, T.J. Lang, Scott Wells, Josh Sitton, Bryan Bulaga, Marshall Newhouse, Derek Sherrod and Evan Dietrich Smith.

DL (6): B.J. Raji, Ryan Pickett, Mike Neal, Howard Green, Jarius Wynn and C.J. Wilson

LBs (10): Clay Matthews, Desmond Bishop, A.J. Hawk, Erik Walden, Frank Zombo, Vic So'oto, Jamari Lattimore, Brad Jones, Robert Francois, D.J. Smith.

DBs: (10): Charles Woodson, Tramon Williams, Nick Collins, Morgan Burnett, Sam Shields, Jarrett Bush, Pat Lee, Charlie Peprah, M.D. Jennings and Davon House.

Specialists (3): Mason Crosby, Tim Masthay, Brett Goode

[Smidgeon]

We kept 10 LB's..Jones made it too..Wow..

Keep in mind that Jones is probably the best cover OLB on the team. He unfortunately hasn't shown much else, but he's natural in coverage.

[Brando19]

Campell is questionable as well...but after being here, I bet Flynn would beg TT to let him stay rather than go start in Oakland!!!

Dalton might also benefit from a year on the bench. Is he pegged as the starter there?

True. I also think you could add the Jaguars to the list of places Flynn could start.

[Lurker64]

Keep in mind that Jones is probably the best cover OLB on the team. He unfortunately hasn't shown much else, but he's natural in coverage.

It's also likely that at least one of the LBs is first on the "cut next" list in case there's an OL they like that makes it to them on waivers.

[Lurker64]

True. I also think you could add the Jaguars to the list of places Flynn could start.

I think Garrard is better than Flynn right now, and Gabbert will likely be better than Flynn in a year. No chance he starts in Jacksonville. The Jaguars have average quarterback play already, which is probably Flynn's ceiling.

[Fritz]

It seems to me that Fritz was talking him up pretty early on. Fritz is the man.

Thanks, Vince. As always, I based my analysis upon keen observation, a close eye on the 3-cone drill and shuttle times, and a cool name. Mostly the cool name.

[Fritz]

Wow... Brad Jones, the Invisible Man, makes the team, but Chastin West nor Tori Gurley make it. That's just weird to me.

I see Lattimore made it, too. I thought they'd try to PS him.

Here in Detroit, where they're looking for defensive backs, running backs, and back up receivers, I see Brandon Saine, Anthony Levine, and West and Gurley all to be of interest. But I'll bet most of those guys will be of interest to a number of teams that are in the waiver line in front of the Lions.

[pbmax]

Guy and Smithson to IR. How does Smithson get on IR? Last think I saw him do was fumble a punt.

You just need to teach him to cough, scream or wince at the right moment. Bingo, IR.

[pbmax]

If Sitton misses a game, Bulaga will need to move over and let Newhouse play tackle. I would imagine they are looking for a Guard somewhere.

[Lurker64]

Wow... Brad Jones, the Invisible Man, makes the team, but Chastin West nor Tori Gurley make it. That's just weird to me.

Brad Jones may be active on game days, and he may actually play on defense if healthy... since he can cover. The sixth WR probably isn't even a game day active and would never play anything other than special teams barring several injuries.

Keep in mind that our #5 WR last year only had 9 targets as a receiver. If you're going to have a guy on the roster to mostly play special teams, when it comes to comparing two core special teamers you have to give the edge to the guy who may actually make an appearance on offense or defense.

[RashanGary]

Jones had 4 sacks in 7 games in 09. He could be a 7-8 sack per year starter. He's a slippery pass rusher. His college youtube clip showed a natural pass rusher and he brought it to the NFL too. I remember the coaches and scouts calling him slippery or natural or something like that.

He covers well too. Smart. Good guy. 3rd down LB maybe?

Weird camp for him. He didn't stand out, but I don't remember him blitzing either.

[vince]

QBs (2): Aaron Rodgers and Matt Flynn

RBs (4): Ryan Grant, James Starks, John Kuhn and Alex Green

TEs (5): Jermichael Finley, Andrew Quarless, Tom Crabtree, Ryan Taylor, D.J. Williams

WRs (5): Greg Jennings, Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson, James Jones, Randall Cobb

OL (8): Chad Clifton, T.J. Lang, Scott Wells, Josh Sitton, Bryan Bulaga, Marshall Newhouse, Derek Sherrod and Evan Dietrich Smith.

DL (6): B.J. Raji, Ryan Pickett, Mike Neal, Howard Green, Jarius Wynn and C.J. Wilson

LBs (10): Clay Matthews, Desmond Bishop, A.J. Hawk, Erik Walden, Frank Zombo, Vic So'oto, Jamari Lattimore, Brad Jones, Robert Francois, D.J. Smith.

DBs: (10): Charles Woodson, Tramon Williams, Nick Collins, Morgan Burnett, Sam Shields, Jarrett Bush, Pat Lee, Charlie Peprah, M.D. Jennings and Davon House.

Specialists (3): Mason Crosby, Tim Masthay, Brett Goode
Other than Harrell and McDonald out and Lattimore in, it's pretty much as expected. It's good to see TT was able to trade a couple guys for soem picks. Bring on the season baby.

Dominguez and McDonald are likely to the PS if they clear waivers, along with Harrell I'd say.

[Lurker64]

Jones had 4 sacks in 7 games in 09. He could be a 7-8 sack per year starter. He's a slippery pass rusher. His college youtube clip showed a natural pass rusher and he brought it to the NFL too. I remember the coaches and scouts calling him slippery or natural or something like that.

He covers well too. Smart. Good guy. 3rd down LB maybe?

Weird camp for him. He didn't stand out, but I don't remember him blitzing either.

Jones might well be #53 on the Roster right now, and I really believe that the Packers would like to pick up another interior OL whether through Waivers or if there's a veteran who's willing to be a backup for a contender. So I don't think he's safe yet.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Interesting. A lot of the scout's comments slanted toward the negative, but not with Jamari Lattimore.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/129200088.html


"We liked Lattimore a lot," a scout said. "I thought he was going to have a tough time making the team because of his size and the depth they have at the position. He's not the body type of those other guys."

[Fritz]

Brad Jones may be active on game days, and he may actually play on defense if healthy... since he can cover. The sixth WR probably isn't even a game day active and would never play anything other than special teams barring several injuries.

Keep in mind that our #5 WR last year only had 9 targets as a receiver. If you're going to have a guy on the roster to mostly play special teams, when it comes to comparing two core special teamers you have to give the edge to the guy who may actually make an appearance on offense or defense.

That's true from the game day perspective. But I am under the impression that Ted's about talent, talent, talent, and he's kept some odd numbers of position players to accommodate talent. He kept five TE's this year, but are all of them going to be active and playing TE on game days? I thought Jones was quite pedestrian, plus he's hurt a lot. He seems less talented at his position than Gurley or West at theirs.

[SkinBasket]

M.D. Jennings motherfuckers!

[Lurker64]

Interesting. A lot of the scout's comments slanted toward the negative, but not with Jamari Lattimore.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/129200088.html

I think it's funny the scout getting all weird about the Packers keeping 5 TEs:


"Four would be the most a team has carried," he said. "Very interesting. That's heavy."

The Arizona Cardinals also kept five TEs after the final cutdown. It's a brave new world.

[Lurker64]

Interesting. A lot of the scout's comments slanted toward the negative, but not with Jamari Lattimore.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/129200088.html

I think it's funny the scout getting all excited about the Packers keeping 5 TEs:


"Four would be the most a team has carried," he said. "Very interesting. That's heavy."

The Arizona Cardinals also kept five TEs after the final cutdown.

[Pugger]

When can we start to sign guys to the PS?

[pbmax]

When can we start to sign guys to the PS?

Waiver claims in by 11 AM (that's Central I bet) and notifications come out shortly after that. After waivers are announced, I think the PS signings can commence. Possible that players who were not subject to waivers could be signed quicker.

I think Nance is a guy they would hold onto if they can on PS. He looked the most natural of the RBs blocking on third down. Though it was only against 2nd and 3rd string.

[Joemailman]

Waiver claims in by 11 AM (that's Central I bet) and notifications come out shortly after that. After waivers are announced, I think the PS signings can commence. Possible that players who were not subject to waivers could be signed quicker.

I think Nance is a guy they would hold onto if they can on PS. He looked the most natural of the RBs blocking on third down. Though it was only against 2nd and 3rd string.

Nance was on the active roster for 15 weeks last year. I believe that makes him ineligible for the practice squad.

[smuggler]

Here it is, 11AM on Sunday. Any word on waivers or PS dudes?

[Packers4Glory]

I don't know why the hell we need 5 TE's...West should have made the team at least as a return guy. TE is where the cuts need to come to add an O-line. We saw once Finley, who is a difference maker, went down that TE was fairly irrelevant and ho-hum. Def wasn't a critical position where we need 5.

[imscott72]

I bet West and Gurley get claimed. Harrell too. 49ers are looking for a QB3.

[Fritz]

You would think teams would be all over West and Gurley, at least.

Any word yet on waiver claims? Either or the cut Packers, or on players Thompson might have bid on?

[Lurker64]

You would think teams would be all over West and Gurley, at least.

Any word yet on waiver claims? Either or the cut Packers, or on players Thompson might have bid on?

The thing is: every team cut a bunch of guys that they're hoping make it to the practice squad and teams are generally higher on the guys that they had in camp that they like than the guys who other people had in camp. Gurley doesn't look like he's ready yet to be on an NFL roster, any NFL roster, and a bunch of WRs with tools got cut yesterday.

[rbaloha1]

West was a surprising cut given special teams capabilties.

Five tes is fine since they can function as defacto fbs and h-backs.

Please board -- explain why Crabtree and Brad Jones are worthy of roster spots?

[mraynrand]

They can cut Crabtree and add four players to the roster. That gives them a lot of options.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I don't know why the hell we need 5 TE's...West should have made the team at least as a return guy. TE is where the cuts need to come to add an O-line. We saw once Finley, who is a difference maker, went down that TE was fairly irrelevant and ho-hum. Def wasn't a critical position where we need 5.

They carried 3 FBs and 4 TEs last year. This year 1 FB and 5 TEs. Taylor or Crabtree can play FB in a pinch. Not much different really. Crabtree and Taylor were kept as much for special teams as anything. I think everybody is overrating Gurley and West. I think both could have been solid backups, but there upsides are limited by their athletic limitations. Gurley is slow and he's not a skilled route runner. West has just ordinary athletic ability.

[Lurker64]

Please board -- explain why Crabtree and Brad Jones are worthy of roster spots?

Crabtree is one of our best special teams players, and is our best blocking Tight End. He's the sort of guy that does the dirty work and doesn't complain. Teams need that kind of guy. I suspect he's actually the #3 TE and his roster spot was never the least bit in doubt; DJ Williams is likely the #5 TE at this point, and he was kept because he's a 5th round draft pick and he's probably worth a redshirt year. Don't expect him to be active in any games (before December at least), however.

Brad Jones? I suspect he's #53 of 53 and may not last the week.. He's better in coverage than any of his counterparts at OLB, but he's not really good at the rest of the job these days.

[denverYooper]

West was a surprising cut given special teams capabilties.

Five tes is fine since they can function as defacto fbs and h-backs.

Please board -- explain why Crabtree and Brad Jones are worthy of roster spots?

I think Crabtree is better than many are giving him credit for. He's the best blocking TE on the Packers and it looks like he's worked on his hands over the offseason.

[Lurker64]

Packers.com says that the Practice Squad consists of:


WR Diondre Borel, T/G Ray Dominguez, C Sampson Genus, WR Tori Gurley, QB Graham Harrell, CB Brandian Ross, RB Brandon Saine and WR Chastin West.

http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Packers-sign-eight-players-to-practice-squad/4ab7dd20-7c56-462c-98aa-a51bb389ac9a

Pretty much everybody you would want to keep. Not keeping Jon Hoese is kind of surprising, but I suspect there wasn't room for him since all three of those WRs went unclaimed.

[Fritz]

No claims on any of those guys?

So did I overestimate the abilities of several of them, in the best training camp tradition?

[Bretsky]

You would think teams would be all over West and Gurley, at least.

Any word yet on waiver claims? Either or the cut Packers, or on players Thompson might have bid on?

We always overvalue our guys more
There were better WR's cut yesterday
Could not believe Brandon Tae was cut by NE
Returned two Kickoffs for TD's and thought he was an up and coming player with NE

If nobody claims those two, they may look at the Packers WR's and decide to go to somebody else's practice squad. Barring injuries not a ton of opportuniies here at WR

[Bretsky]

West was a surprising cut given special teams capabilties.

Five tes is fine since they can function as defacto fbs and h-backs.

Please board -- explain why Crabtree and Brad Jones are worthy of roster spots?

Crabtree is our best blocker as a TE, and very reliable
Jones.....not a fan of that guy

[Bretsky]

No claims on any of those guys?

So did I overestimate the abilities of several of them, in the best training camp tradition?

yes

[imscott72]

[QUOTE=Fritz;610816]No claims on any of those guys?

So did I overestimate the abilities of several of them, in the best training camp tradition?[/QUOTEid I

So did I. I'm pleasantly surprised..

[wootah]

Please board -- explain why Crabtree and Brad Jones are worthy of roster spots?

Crabtree might play a bigger role behind the scenes for this team that we as outsiders know of.

Check the last 20 seconds of this clip:

http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/McCarthys-Post-Game-Victory-Speech-at-Jets/6c4ed6b6-7b56-435a-96ed-3fbf618726f4

Other guys that McCarthy invited to break down the huddle last year (at least with existing movies on packers.com): Charles Woodson, AJ Hawk, Ryan Pickett, Scott Wells. All well-respected team leaders.