OFFICAL WEEK 2 GAME DAY THREAD PACKERS at CAROLINA PANTHERS

[hoosier]

From the halftime questions fielded at the JSOnline blog:


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Sunday September 18, 2011 1:27 Will

1:27
http://www.coveritlive.com/templates/coveritlive/images/spacer.gifI wouldn't say that Carolina is playing poorly. They're taking it to the Packers. :-)

[Jimx29]

that's a td...

[Jimx29]

that's a td...f'n mm
dumbass

[Packers4Glory]

fucking Finley

[mmmdk]

Grant's playing just fine. Starks is a better back though, IMO.

I love having them both; even eager to see Green.

[gbgary]

that's a td...just like johnson's was last year.

[Joemailman]

that's a td...

No it isn't. Learn the rules.

[Fred's Slacks]

I hate that stupid rule.

[mmmdk]

that's a td...

Yes...but in another dimension!

[pbmax]

Not according to the rule as its written and they are choosing to interpret it. This rule is all about making it easier on the refs.

[Fred's Slacks]

I'll love the rule as soon as it benefits us on the fields. I don't remember that happening though.

[pbmax]

Slowest developing screen ever.

[pbmax]

What happened to the ball with Smith?

[Packers4Glory]

a gift from Smith...maybe he's got money on this game..that looked bad.

[Jimx29]

No it isn't. Learn the rules.

It's retarded "rule"

[gbgary]

love it when we do that.

[pbmax]

Great play by Chuck but what was Smith doing?

Nice route to the middle of a zone. Weird.

[Fred's Slacks]

Not that it matters now but how on earth did they give Williams a first down on that screen pass. He was a full yard short, easily.

[Tony Oday]

A bounce actually went our way!?

[Fritz]

That man was wide open.

Lucky break for the Pack. Now let's see if they can take advantage of it.

[Packers4Glory]

nice run! love it

[pbmax]

Don't care if he has a top gear. Love Starks!

Love the inverted wishbone.

[King Friday]

Again...I really don't want to see Grant anymore.

[gbgary]

This thread is a nice example of how thin the line is between the ecstatic fans of a dynasty and the irate fans of an underachieving bunch of ne'er do wells.

lol

[Packers4Glory]

keep running. we are getting good yards almost every carry. pull them safeties up and hit em later.

[pbmax]

wonder if they told Grant "we are going to not block someone when you have the ball so you can soften them up" before the season started"? Or does it just look that way?

[Packers4Glory]

Again...I really don't want to see Grant anymore.

I'm all for the 2 backs splitting carries. Keep them fresher and hopefully healthier.

[pbmax]

A good example of why you shouldn't lead with your head for a hit.

[gbgary]

damm...fin layed him out.

[MadScientist]

Finley is too big for a the safety. I'd say the other guy will remember that hit, but I don't think he can.

[Packers4Glory]

Kuuuuuuhn....I thought he was going in

[Packers4Glory]

come on. spread em out and RUN.

[pbmax]

Don't think that was back shoulder unless Jordy ran the wrong route.

[Fred's Slacks]

I still don't understand the empty formation at the goal line. Can someone explain how that gives you and advantage?

[gbgary]

o needed a td there.

[pbmax]

What was the deal with that kick?

KO coverage seems to have benefited from Ryan Taylor's return.

[Brandon494]

WTF kinda of a play call is that? 5 wide from the 2 yard line?

[pbmax]

Great coverage by Burnett.

[Packers4Glory]

I still don't understand the empty formation at the goal line. Can someone explain how that gives you and advantage?
yeah..idk. I'd like to see them keep a back in there to maybe check down to.

[pbmax]

Bush was thinking INT until the tip.

[Guiness]

Just joining - looks like the Pack had a rough start, but have turned it around.

Tramon not playing? Who is the other CB? Is Woodson out there?

[Tony Oday]

Best QB ever!

[MadScientist]

Cam is getting sloppy now. Good.

[Packers4Glory]

well...Newton had a decent 1st half when guys were running free.

[Fred's Slacks]

Either our defense is playing differently or Cam has fallen off a cliff.

[pbmax]

Yeah, now he is getting a little wild. But this kid can play QB.

Bush got juked while in coverage.

[Jimx29]

cams shaken now
cams shaken now

[pbmax]

Just joining - looks like the Pack had a rough start, but have turned it around.

Tramon not playing? Who is the other CB? Is Woodson out there?

Yep, Wood with 2 INTs and Shields and Bush in nickel. burnett in coverage a lot too.

[MadScientist]

That should not have been roughing, even if it was against Aaron.

[mmmdk]

I like this Burnett guy; say "thank you to TT" Stubby!

[Brandon494]

As good as Cam is hes still a rookie and you need to run the ball to help him out.

[Packers4Glory]

Starks gets hit good...looked nasty.

[gbgary]

we've pretty much stopped blitzing...just rushing four. staying home. it's turned the game around.

[MadScientist]

Panther D is selling out for big hits and getting hurt because of it.

[Jimx29]

ferchristsakes....people dropping all over the place. I don't think starks is coming back after that hit

[pbmax]

we've pretty much stopped blitzing...just rushing four. staying home. it's turned the game around.

Yep. Similar to Rothliesberger gameplan.

[wpony]

well that was as bad as our ruffing so I guess we are even

[Packers4Glory]

Can Finley get a TD please???

[pbmax]

well that was as bad as our ruffing so I guess we are even

Good point.

[pbmax]

Horrible technique on Crabtree.

[Jimx29]

FYI.....rocking chair VS can of pringles = corn flakes

[pbmax]

Hold, jiminy christmas. Sitton.

[Packers4Glory]

wow. so much for getting the kill. going backwards

[pbmax]

Charles Johnson was walking Clifton backward.

[Jimx29]

wow....there's starks again

[mmmdk]

DD needs 1 or 2 yards, right?

[Jimx29]

Atta boy DD

[pbmax]

Driver with record.

[mmmdk]

DD got it! Congrats!

[pbmax]

Tennessee handing it to hungover Ravens.

[Guiness]

this is going to be interesting - Car down by 10, have to go to the air. Pressure on Cam, how does he do?

[gbgary]

tds instead of fgs please.

[Fritz]

Okay, the offense looks like a bunch of puds today. Four turnovers as gifts to them, and they get . . . field goals.

[Guiness]

Stewart catching and running. Seems like he's wide open.

[pbmax]

They brought pressure again and he went right to vacated area. If Stewart doesn't fall down turning around, its a first.

[Fred's Slacks]

We seem to be taking control...So of course we'll have to give up a TD here in order to keep it close.

[gbgary]

love mora on nfl network but he sucks as color guy.

[pbmax]

Matthews lining up in middle of defense.

[Fred's Slacks]

Yep. We have a 10 point lead so we can stop playing defense.

[gbgary]

come on d.

[Fritz]

Do the Packers even have a sack today?

[Freak Out]

Panthers lines is working hard.

[pbmax]

Good grief what an almost catch. he got both hands around it in midair while twisting around a 180.

[pbmax]

dp

[pbmax]

Terrible closing and tackling.

[Freak Out]

Fuck.....Big man making moves.

[Freak Out]

Going from bad to worse with Nick going down.

[pbmax]

Do the Packers even have a sack today?

Yes.

[MadScientist]

Ugh Collins down.

[mmmdk]

Tackle, damn you! :mad:

[wpony]

oh great we cant loose him

[gbgary]

jammed his neck

[mmmdk]

Do the Packers even have a sack today?

Bishop

[pbmax]

Stewart sat on Collin's head.

[Guiness]

backboard. shit.

Ok, announcer just said 'the nfl takes care of their players'. Anyone else thinking of the vets and their problems when he said that?

[wpony]

wow hope hes ok

[MadScientist]

Hope he can come back next week. Doesn't look good at all.

[mmmdk]

Ugh Collins down.

Damn, this could be bad news! Don't hope so!

[gbgary]

tb with a td. 20-17 minn

[mmmdk]

Stewart sat on Collin's head.

Pretty much! :shock:

[Brandon494]

Prayers are with Collins right now

[pbmax]

Nick waving good thing.

But 2 deep zone led to a TE catch in the middle.

[Freak Out]

Newton is a big guy...but you better watch it.

[Packers4Glory]

man. for as bad as they played in the 1st half, the Pack had a chance to put this one away in the 3rd, and here we are in some real danger.

[pbmax]

Who is this Nane?

Shields shouldn't be clapping, he was burned.

[Jimx29]

love mora on nfl network but he sucks as color guy.
X's 1000

[Tony Oday]

Legedu was an ex charger

[pbmax]

Uh-oh. Eight minute offense coming up.

Good thing run game has been working.

[pbmax]

Legedu was an ex charger

Thanks. He is pretty polished, didn't look like a rook.

[King Friday]

way to hold on to the ball Cobb!

[mmmdk]

STUBBY BALL COMIN' :lol:

[gbgary]

need a long drive for a td. put this to bed.

[Packers4Glory]

here we go. stupid penalties.

[pbmax]

Great hold Bulaga.

[pbmax]

Nice pass and route call.

Redskins can eat my shorts.

Way to stay inbounds Starks.

[Packers4Glory]

of course. can't just put it to bed. we have to make it interesting. stupid fucking penalty.

[pbmax]

Horrible. Run at the guy and he breaks free from Clifton.

[wpony]

omg cant make a fn yard

[Freak Out]

Way to not give the D a breather.

[gbgary]

stupid play call too.

[mmmdk]

STUBBY BALL COMIN' :lol:

3'n'out

We gotta game!

[pbmax]

What happened to Masthay's hang time? It was only a 39 yard punt.

[pbmax]

The Garaji scares Newton for a sack!

[MJZiggy]

Good god, there's enough laundry this game to keep us in clean undies for a month.

[wpony]

sack!!!!!!2

[pbmax]

Good lord double coverage and he brings it in.

[pbmax]

Nice challenge. Slow them down if nothing else.

[pbmax]

First foot out?

[Packers4Glory]

Foot is out..the first foot down looks out

[gbgary]

tb just took the lead on minn

[mmmdk]

...this is how it all LaFell...:lol:

[mmmdk]

It's actually worth a challenge (that's the good news) but I don't see enough to turn it around.

[Jimx29]

Newton doesn't finish the game.cam doesn't finish the game

[Brandon494]

Its a catch

[pbmax]

They burned the blitz.

[Packers4Glory]

oh boy. momentum has shifted

[mmmdk]

Bucs won!

[hoosier]

Speaking of Bucs that is exactly what this game reminds me of.

[pbmax]

Nice play by Burnett.

[gbgary]

way to go mb!

[pbmax]

Matthews with nice, nice pass rush in his lane.

[pbmax]

That was well organized D.

Now need to eat clock.

[wpony]

glad they went for it I would have took 3

[mmmdk]

I might get booed but Panthers have been the better team today! But we can still win it! :pack:

down to 4th again & good play B

[pbmax]

Wow, great run to right side!

[Packers4Glory]

damn. none of our backs can seem to break that one tackle.

[Packers4Glory]

DAGGER!

finally

[MadScientist]

Red zone stuff again!

[Jimx29]

spectacular

[pbmax]

I might get booed but Panthers have been the better team today! But we can still win it! :pack:

down to 4th again & good play B

Not with 4 turnovers they haven't.

I was yelling for him to stay inbounds. No need. :)

[Packers4Glory]

helluva great block..who was that to free Nelson

[MadScientist]

Nelson!!! If he is only going to catch 1 pass, that's the way to do it.

[gbgary]

mr matthews. now get some first downs.

td for jordy. great block by 85.

[mmmdk]

SUPER CALL

[wpony]

alright!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pbmax]

Jordy Speed!

[Packers4Glory]

Nelson makes an appearance. reservations for 6

[pbmax]

helluva great block..who was that to free Nelson

Jennnings

[mmmdk]

I'm such an AR fan & Jordy too; how about you!?

[Tony Oday]

THERE IS YOUR DAGGER!

[Packers4Glory]

in other news...Cutler has been in a bad mood all day getting killed behind that line. His pissed off

[hoosier]

Holy crap. Detroit 48, KC 3. Are the Chiefs that bad or....?

[Joemailman]

Gotta love Jordy's YPC.

[pbmax]

Holy crap. Detroit 48, KC 3. Are the Chiefs that bad or....?

Both :)

[pbmax]

Gotta love Jordy's YPC.

Yes, studies show that kind of YPC generally leads to wins.

[mmmdk]

48 points by Lions :wow:

[MadScientist]

Holy crap. Detroit 48, KC 3. Are the Chiefs that bad or....?
The Chefs suck, but Detroit is good enough to absolutely stomp a bad team.

[mmmdk]

Thank goodness my chicken drumsticks didn't go "bad" on my Packers win streak! :lol:

[Packers4Glory]

packers pass D getting ate alive this yr. Off to a horrific start.

[pbmax]

How do you let someone get deep this late with a 14 point lead?

[gbgary]

come on d!!

[pbmax]

Hawk, hands of stone.

[gbgary]

we've got to lead the league in yards given up by the pass.

[Jimx29]

How do you let someone get deep this late with a 14 point lead?

look at our coach

[gbgary]

Hawk, hands of stone.

that's roberto duran.

[pbmax]

look at our coach

That's not on M3. That's on the D.

[Packers4Glory]

How do you let someone get deep this late with a 14 point lead?

You lose your free safety?

[pbmax]

Onside kick here we come.

[pbmax]

You lose your free safety?

Maybe, but Collins plays closer to line. Burnett is closer to a true free safety/centerfielder in Capers D.

[wpony]

good thing we have so many recievers and tight ends on our teams to cover on side kicks :)

[pbmax]

driver, no hands of stone.

[Packers4Glory]

Maybe, but Collins plays closer to line. Burnett is closer to a true free safety/centerfielder in Capers D.
Collins aint playin the line up 14 late. He's sitting back waiting to go for a pick.

[gbgary]

That's not on M3. That's on the D.

3s instead of 7s is on the o.

[mmmdk]

We're getting whipped yet winning! Thanx DD

[gbgary]

driver, no hands of stone.

no. he's mr. kill the onside kick.

[Jimx29]

Bottom line: Newton can have all the passing yards ever, but the 0-2 is what counts

[pbmax]

Well, two weeks without Joe Buck ends next week. Radio, here I come.

[wpony]

well its good to win ugly thats what sometimes makes the diferance between a wining and a loosing season

[pbmax]

3s instead of 7s is on the o.

But I was talking about a 50 yards pass with 2 minutes left in the game. Not earlier scores.

[Packers4Glory]

Bottom line: Newton can have all the passing yards ever, but the 0-2 is what counts

THey aren't doing him any favors not trying to balance out the attack.

[pbmax]

Collins aint playin the line up 14 late. He's sitting back waiting to go for a pick.

OK. But Burnett is still back there with him and Peprah did this last year. You cannot let someone get behind you.

[red]

3s instead of 7s is on the o.

yup thats been a big problem with M3 IMO, he settles for way too many fg's

the packers made that game hard to watch, jim mora made that game unwatchable

[Joemailman]

look at our coach

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Mike+McCarthy+Super+Bowl+XLV+MVP+Winning+Head+iOyg isfQv02l.jpg

[Fritz]

That was somehow unsatisfying even though it's a win on the road in the NFL. I'm being all fan-ley right now, I know, but man, the offense looked out of sync, the pass rush wasn't much, and why did Crosby spend part of the game on kickoffs squibbing it? Jaysus, just let him swing away and put it into the back of the end zone.

Also, I must say Finley's blocking sucked butt. He doesn't look like he even gives it his all.

And if you're going to be a half-assed blocker, then you better come down with that ball in the end zone and not let it squirt out like it did, J-Mike.

Rodgers looked off, too.

[mmmdk]

Bills avoid super hail Mary and beat Raiders - WOW!

[Guiness]

Holy crap. Detroit 48, KC 3. Are the Chiefs that bad or....?

I saw some power rankings puttin KC at 32. Don't think I've seen that out of a playoff team before.

[red]

how in the hell does finley's TD not count but the one for the pats just now did count?

the NFL has no fucking clue what their own rules are right now. neither does anyone else

[Fritz]

But if Finley's TD had counted, then the non-TD catch by Calvin Johnson last year looks even worse than it does now - and even now it smells.

The NFL has no clue, really, what exactly a catch is any more.

[Joemailman]

how in the hell does finley's TD not count but the one for the pats just now did count?

the NFL has no fucking clue what their own rules are right now. neither does anyone else

Not sure, but perhaps they ruled that the defender knocked the ball out after he had controlled the ball. It's obviously a bad rule.

[pbmax]

yup thats been a big problem with M3 IMO, he settles for way too many fg's

the packers made that game hard to watch, jim mora made that game unwatchable

Maybe if you are talking about late game, midfield decisions. But this game was not an example of that. It was full of red zone miscues by the guys on offense. It wasn't a failure of nerve, tactics or strategy; they simply were not making plays. For example, Nelson running a route and Rodgers expecting and throwing something else.

[Bossman641]

look at our coach

you are clueless

[pbmax]

I am now officially concerned about the pass rush.

[Guiness]

But if Finley's TD had counted, then the non-TD catch by Calvin Johnson last year looks even worse than it does now - and even now it smells.

The NFL has no clue, really, what exactly a catch is any more.

I know I don't.

[Packers4Glory]

I am now officially concerned about the pass rush.
if they can't get pressure next weeek, they never will.

[Jimx29]

you are cluelessThat's beside the fact

[Fritz]

Pass rush? What pass rush?

[Guiness]

if they can't get pressure next weeek, they never will.

Cutler taking 6 sacks this week, 4 last week. Ouch.

[Joemailman]

Sometimes you have to be able to win even if you're not having a good day. This was one of those days. Can't be better than 2-0 after 2 weeks.

On the other hand, I get the sense the Packers aren't communicating as well on defense as they did a year ago. Burnett is a better talent than Peprah, but was the secondary a more cohesive unit with Peprah in there?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Last year this would have been a game we likely would have lost. I agree with Joe, somedays you just don't have it. The Packers weren't at their best today and they still won.

[Joemailman]

Congrats to Bretsky. The Whammy wins its 8th in a row.

At Chicago next week. Build up those Bears B.

[pbmax]

I think they suffered from lack of tape on Newton and this offense. Both the franchise-to-be QB, the O and D coordinators and the HC are new. Though the Packers should have been able to figure out McDermott's D earlier. They beat it twice last year in Philly. Maybe a hybrid with Rivera.

[MadtownPacker]

Last year this would have been a game we likely would have lost. I agree with Joe, somedays you just don't have it. The Packers weren't at their best today and they still won.

Exactly. I am impressed they played so shitty and still won convincingly enough.

[MadtownPacker]

Congrats to Bretsky. The Whammy wins its 8th in a row.

At Chicago next week. Build up those Bears B.
Shit my 8 game streak ended vs chicago.

[Guiness]

Just saw a replay of the Jennings 42yd td pass.

Rodgers throws a beautiful deep ball, but that was all Jennings. How can he be that open?

One thing I was looking for in this game was if Newton would force the ball to Steve Smith. SS got his yards, but Woodson fooled Newton twice and came up with the INT's. Woodson isn't the cover corner he was anymore, but he's as savy as they come out there.

[pbmax]

Just saw a replay of the Jennings 42yd td pass.

Rodgers throws a beautiful deep ball, but that was all Jennings. How can he be that open?

One thing I was looking for in this game was if Newton would force the ball to Steve Smith. SS got his yards, but Woodson fooled Newton twice and came up with the INT's. Woodson isn't the cover corner he was anymore, but he's as savy as they come out there.

Radio said he was passed off by DB like he expected him to be picked up by next zone, and he never was.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think they suffered from lack of tape on Newton and this offense. Both the franchise-to-be QB, the O and D coordinators and the HC are new. Though the Packers should have been able to figure out McDermott's D earlier. They beat it twice last year in Philly. Maybe a hybrid with Rivera.

I think the Carolina coordinators outcoached the packers today. Packers are lucky they have superior talent.

[mmmdk]

I think the Carolina coordinators outcoached the packers today. Packers are lucky they have superior talent.

TT is a Packer GM legend! Stubby a great teacher & calls good games when it counts...I guess Stubby doesn't kick in gear until midseason when it comes to playcalling.

[Joemailman]

I think the Carolina coordinators outcoached the packers today. Packers are lucky they have superior talent.

I thought Carolina was very well prepared and had the upper hand early. I thought the Packers adjusted pretty well though as the game went on. Defensively, I think the Packers decided to stop the Carolina running game and gamble that Newton couldn't beat them. If so, they were right even though they gave up a lot of yards.

Offensively, I thought Rodgers was a little off, and the O-Line had 4 holding penalties. Not sure you can pin that on the OC. It did seem that the Packers were having trouble getting anyone open in the 1st half. that did seem to improve as the game went on though.

[red]

m3 learned during the game today that that one funky thing actually works. you know, when you run a few times and gain some yards then you fake the hand off and throw for big yards

i can't remember what its called, its been so long since i've seen us use it

[swede]

I think it's called run action I-Pass.

[Joemailman]

Isn't it sort of dishonest to fake like you're going to run the ball and then throw it? What ever happened to sportsmanship?

[red]

maybe some day we'll try using one of those "slant" routes too

but now i'm just dreamin

[vince]

Dream on.
http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/WK2-Cant-Miss-Play-Nelson-to-the-house/62e79a58-f978-4b8f-93cf-3703fc8be48e

[pbmax]

I thought Carolina was very well prepared and had the upper hand early. I thought the Packers adjusted pretty well though as the game went on. Defensively, I think the Packers decided to stop the Carolina running game and gamble that Newton couldn't beat them. If so, they were right even though they gave up a lot of yards.

Offensively, I thought Rodgers was a little off, and the O-Line had 4 holding penalties. Not sure you can pin that on the OC. It did seem that the Packers were having trouble getting anyone open in the 1st half. that did seem to improve as the game went on though.

They played a lot of base 3-4 early, I think this was a part of the game plan early. What changed was coverage on the TEs, which is one reason why the WRs got so much play late.

[pbmax]

m3 learned during the game today that that one funky thing actually works. you know, when you run a few times and gain some yards then you fake the hand off and throw for big yards

i can't remember what its called, its been so long since i've seen us use it

I don't think much changed on this front. They ran 16 times versus 30 pass attempts (this doesn't include sacks). And McCarthy has run play action enough before to prompt some in this forum to wonder why bother when the run isn't working.

But what did change is that the run game seems to be functioning (minus one Clifton non-block) and the fact that Carolina couldn't stop the run well at all.

[red]

i would like to bring up the two horrible roughing the passer calls in the game today.

i almost shit myself when i saw the replay of bishops hit. he hit cam about a tenth of a second after he released the ball, hit him with his shoulder right in the gut. that is a perfect hit

and then there was the greg hardy hit on rodgers, this one might have been even worse then the bishop call, all i could think was that it was a make up call

i think the nfl is at a point where they should put the red jersies on the qb's and not let anyone get within a 2 yard halo of him at any time

[red]

I don't think much changed on this front. They ran 16 times versus 30 pass attempts (this doesn't include sacks). And McCarthy has run play action enough before to prompt some in this forum to wonder why bother when the run isn't working.

But what did change is that the run game seems to be functioning (minus one Clifton non-block) and the fact that Carolina couldn't stop the run well at all.

i think its the jennings td drive i'm thinking of. we started out with 2 or 3 nice runs, then wham, bomb down the middle to a wide open receiver

[mmmdk]

i would like to bring up the two horrible roughing the passer calls in the game today.

i almost shit myself when i saw the replay of bishops hit. he hit cam about a tenth of a second after he released the ball, hit him with his shoulder right in the gut. that is a perfect hit

and then there was the greg hardy hit on rodgers, this one might have been even worse then the bishop call, all i could think was that it was a make up call

i think the nfl is at a point where they should put the red jersies on the qb's and not let anyone get within a 2 yard halo of him at any time

They'd look like Falcons - not cool! :wink:

[pbmax]

i think its the jennings td drive i'm thinking of. we started out with 2 or 3 nice runs, then wham, bomb down the middle to a wide open receiver

Gotcha. It all makes more sense when the running game works.

[Harlan Huckleby]

i would like to bring up the two horrible roughing the passer calls in the game today.

i almost shit myself when i saw the replay of bishops hit. he hit cam about a tenth of a second after he released the ball, hit him with his shoulder right in the gut. that is a perfect hit

and then there was the greg hardy hit on rodgers, this one might have been even worse then the bishop call, all i could think was that it was a make up call

i think the nfl is at a point where they should put the red jersies on the qb's and not let anyone get within a 2 yard halo of him at any time


I was gonna start a whole thread about this topic. But maybe there isn't much more to say.

I just saw the same call in the New England game.

All the defenders are doing is tackling the damn QB in the midsection. They are not late hits. They arive a fraction of a second after the ball is released.

What the hell is the rule? It is a huge, random penalty for nothing. Infuriating. How are the pass rushers supposed to attack the QB, they can't know exactly when the ball will leave. Terrible. Worst change in football.

[Bretsky]

Bush late to get there.

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I had no dam laptop today so now I can be one of those guys who reads this thread and makes fun of people after everything has occured

[channtheman]

Well, two weeks without Joe Buck ends next week. Radio, here I come.

You don't think Jim Mora is better than Buck do you?

[Bretsky]

Bishop on cheap but predictable call.

agree...that was a bush league call

[Harlan Huckleby]

agree...that was a bush league call

ya, but that's the way they are calling it league wide

[gbgary]

the run worked pretty well today. just don't like it when everyone knows it's coming and he does it anyway...like late in the forth on third and two, or three, and needing a first down bad. he's always had this thing about trying to prove we can get a couple of yards on the ground even when EVERYONE expects a run.

[red]

Worst change in football.

i'm starting to hate the automatic review after the score rule too. i think its just another excuse to throw in another commercial break . i've seen them review some calls that were clear scores, like the one that just happened in the falcons-eagles game. then i've seen times when it should be overturned and they do nothing.

nfl screwed up bad this offseason with those 2 changes and the new kickoff spot. hate them all

[Bretsky]

Congrats to Bretsky. The Whammy wins its 8th in a row.

At Chicago next week. Build up those Bears B.


Green Bay always plays the the Bears level and it seems like da Bears always knock us off early in the season. They will win next week

[Guiness]

i'm starting to hate the automatic review after the score rule too. i think its just another excuse to throw in another commercial break . i've seen them review some calls that were clear scores, like the one that just happened in the falcons-eagles game. then i've seen times when it should be overturned and they do nothing.

nfl screwed up bad this offseason with those 2 changes and the new kickoff spot. hate them all

In the Buffalo/Oakland game, there was a hail mary at the end that was intercepted to end the game.

Fans left, teams went to the dressing rooms, no one knew the play was being reviewed! 9 minutes later, referee comes out to announce, to a 3/4 empty stadium, that he play was upheld.

Would have been hilarious (from where I'm sitting, not if I was in the parking lot trying to leave!) if it had been overturned, and they had to run another play! :lol:

[Guiness]

Green Bay always plays the the Bears level and it seems like da Bears always knock us off early in the season. They will win next week

Getting an early start on the whammy, posting it at the end of the previous week's game day thread?

[Brando19]

Green Bay always plays the the Bears level and it seems like da Bears always knock us off early in the season. They will win next week

Bear lover!

[pbmax]

You don't think Jim Mora is better than Buck do you?

Anything is better than Buck.

[Guiness]

Dream on.
http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/WK2-Cant-Miss-Play-Nelson-to-the-house/62e79a58-f978-4b8f-93cf-3703fc8be48e

Wow, what a nice play. First thing I noticed was that Nelson does have great long speed. He hit his top gear, and was really moving. That was a great block by Jennings, of course.

Second was the protection Rodgers had on that play. Clifton looked like he was dancing at his prom, and the backs did a great job picking up the safety blitzing on the other side. Middle of the line walled up.

[channtheman]

Anything is better than Buck.

I guess I can't really argue with that. Still, Jim Mora had me muting the TV for the majority of the game. Would have loved to have a radio broadcast.

[Partial]

Yeah I'll take Troy and Joe over today's announcers any day of the week.

[wpony]

I was watching another game later and there was another call even worse than those 2 ruffing calls, I believe in some protection for the QBs but lets not get redicules but these bull s@@t calls for recievers the officials have to get those straightened out so they are the same in all games

[mraynrand]

I hate bulls@@t calls.