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red
10-03-2011, 04:45 PM
its gotta be a-rod right?

although stafford is a very close second at this point and of course there's always brady

a-rod is on pace for 48 td's 8 int's and 8 rushing td's

and we haven't exactly played easy teams. the bears and saints both have good d's

Freak Out
10-03-2011, 05:40 PM
I'd say Rodgers unanimously at this point. Jennings and friends are pretty damn good but Stafford has fucking Megatron to throw to....

mraynrand
10-03-2011, 05:42 PM
Clearly, it's Scott Wells. Without him, the entire O-line would be decimated.

channtheman
10-03-2011, 06:27 PM
You asshole! :lol:

Upnorth
10-03-2011, 06:55 PM
How about Peyton Manning. Without him the colts have been useless for 1/4 of a season. That hasn't happened in over a decade.

mraynrand
10-03-2011, 07:04 PM
You asshole! :lol:

guilty as charged

rbaloha1
10-03-2011, 07:08 PM
A-rod

Iron Mike
10-03-2011, 10:41 PM
http://www.sidelinepass.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/MarkSanchez.jpg

Nacho.

pbmax
10-04-2011, 08:04 AM
Brady?

Brandon494
10-04-2011, 08:18 AM
You have to put Calvin Johnson is the discussion with the way he's playing right now.

smuggler
10-04-2011, 08:30 AM
If the season ended today, it would be Calvin Johnson. He's on pace for 32TD receptions. With him, Stafford is on pace for 44TDs. Without him, he is on pace for 12 TDs.

The answer is Calvin Johnson.

pbmax
10-04-2011, 08:34 AM
Brady is on a pace for 6000 passing yards and 52 touchdowns.

smuggler
10-04-2011, 08:43 AM
Still Johnson. His pacing beats the current record for TD receptions in a season by about 35%

Brady's pace puts him over the yardage record, but only by 15% and two more TDs, or 4% more than his old record. Plus, Rodgers and Stafford are on pace for 48 and 44 respectively and are not on pace for 20 INTs like Brady is.

Upnorth
10-04-2011, 09:09 AM
Still Johnson. His pacing beats the current record for TD receptions in a season by about 35%

Brady's pace puts him over the yardage record, but only by 15% and two more TDs, or 4% more than his old record. Plus, Rodgers and Stafford are on pace for 48 and 44 respectively and are not on pace for 20 INTs like Brady is.

If it wasn"t stafford throwing to him would he still have the the same sucsess? Who made who? Take away stafford and their o suffers more than losing megatron, so I say no way is megatron mvp. Still playing at an amazingly great level though.

denverYooper
10-04-2011, 10:09 AM
If the season ended today, it would be Calvin Johnson. He's on pace for 32TD receptions. With him, Stafford is on pace for 44TDs. Without him, he is on pace for 12 TDs.

The answer is Calvin Johnson.

Rodgers is on pace for record passing yards, completion pct, YPA, and rating leading the highest scoring offense in the NFL. Also 48 TDs (second only to Brady's 50) passing, 8 rushing.

Calvin Johnson is the best receiver and is a trendy contrarian pick but there's no way he'd get it if everyone stayed on course. Rodgers, *maybe* Brady, but no one else is really that close.

rbaloha1
10-04-2011, 10:24 AM
A-rod is on track for 16-0 with excellent stats.

Joemailman
10-04-2011, 10:37 AM
Realistically, WR's don't win MVP awards. That said, if CJ did continue his current pace, he would completely obliterate the record for TD receptions. Stafford would probably get the award though.

MadtownPacker
10-04-2011, 10:38 AM
Brady is on a pace for 6000 passing yards and 52 touchdowns.
But has he lost a game?

Last time Brady played like that he went undefeated and choked in the SB. But he won the MVP for the regular season.

Based on that ARod is the guy IMO.

Deputy Nutz
10-04-2011, 12:18 PM
Aaron Rodgers - he is due. He has become the media's darling locally and nationally. He can do no wrong right now.

Tom Brady - He did have 4 ints in one game alread and lost to the overrated Bills.

Calvin Johnson - best receiver in the game, but he is a receiver and he is black. So he has no shot at winning.

mmmdk
10-04-2011, 12:24 PM
Aaron Rodgers; I can't wait to watch AR & Packers live this season.

Deputy Nutz
10-04-2011, 12:26 PM
Brett Favre

channtheman
10-04-2011, 12:57 PM
Peyton Manning. See how bad the Colts are? Clearly he was the difference.

Deputy Nutz
10-04-2011, 01:01 PM
See how bad the Vikings are.

mraynrand
10-04-2011, 01:04 PM
See how bad the Vikings are.

The 2009 Favre would have them at least 2-2.

mraynrand
10-04-2011, 01:07 PM
Peyton Manning. See how bad the Colts are? Clearly he was the difference.

Normally absence makes the heart grow fonder, but I like Manning even less when he's not playing. At least the helmet prevented us from seeing so many Manning Faces.

Smidgeon
10-04-2011, 01:18 PM
Normally absence makes the heart grow fonder, but I like Manning even less when he's not playing. At least the helmet prevented us from seeing so many Manning Faces.

http://www.manningface.com/

vince
10-04-2011, 02:33 PM
Here's what America says.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=pollindex&pollId=123473

pbmax
10-04-2011, 02:46 PM
Peyton Manning. See how bad the Colts are? Clearly he was the difference.


See how bad the Vikings are.


Brett Favre

If you hold to this logic, Steve Young is your MVP for 10 years running.

Upnorth
10-04-2011, 02:56 PM
If you hold to this logic, Steve Young is your MVP for 10 years running.

HOw about Otto Graham? The Browns were always contenders, then decades of nothing.

mraynrand
10-04-2011, 03:28 PM
HOw about Otto Graham? The Browns were always contenders, then decades of nothing.

10 championships, then zilch. Otto Graham is MVP for all times.

Brandon494
10-04-2011, 04:59 PM
If it wasn"t stafford throwing to him would he still have the the same sucsess? Who made who? Take away stafford and their o suffers more than losing megatron, so I say no way is megatron mvp. Still playing at an amazingly great level though.

Its not even a question who makes who.

mraynrand
10-04-2011, 05:05 PM
Its not even a question who makes who.

When you catch jump balls, like Megatron and Steve Smith have been doing all season, it's obvious who matters most.

Brandon494
10-04-2011, 05:25 PM
When you catch jump balls, like Megatron and Steve Smith have been doing all season, it's obvious who matters most.

You talking about 5'9 Steve Smith? haha yea he hasnt been catching many jump balls.

mraynrand
10-04-2011, 05:29 PM
You talking about 5'9 Steve Smith? haha yea he hasnt been catching many jump balls.


Not paying close attention there, are you? Smith has made all sorts of circus catches this year - not all technically 'jump balls' but amazing just the same. Check out Carolina games - it's a real treat to watch.

Brandon494
10-04-2011, 05:36 PM
Not paying close attention there, are you? Smith has made all sorts of circus catches this year - not all technically 'jump balls' but amazing just the same. Check out Carolina games - it's a real treat to watch.

Oh I get what your trying to do by discrediting Newton by saying Smith is making him but its not even close. Stafford has been just throwing it up to Calvin like Favre did against the Raiders

mraynrand
10-04-2011, 05:44 PM
Oh I get what your trying to do by discrediting Newton by saying Smith is making him but its not even close. Stafford has been just throwing it up to Calvin like Favre did against the Raiders


Why don't you just enjoy watching football? AJ green had a nice catch of a pop fly by Andy Dalton this past weekend too.

Too bad, buddy, about your little conspiracy theories. My point - in addition to the fact that that Steve Smith is amazing - would be that QB-receiver combinations typically play off each other - like Manning-Harrison/Wayne or Favre/Freeman or Montana/Young-Rice. In other words, typically Both partners are responsible. In some cases, a lesser QB will be made better by a great WR and vice versa, but a consistent combination requires both.

Upnorth
10-04-2011, 09:10 PM
Why don't you just enjoy watching football? AJ green had a nice catch of a pop fly by Andy Dalton this past weekend too.

Too bad, buddy, about your little conspiracy theories. My point - in addition to the fact that that Steve Smith is amazing - would be that QB-receiver combinations typically play off each other - like Manning-Harrison/Wayne or Favre/Freeman or Montana/Young-Rice. In other words, typically Both partners are responsible. In some cases, a lesser QB will be made better by a great WR and vice versa, but a consistent combination requires both.

I think you are very correct in this observation. When two very good / great players collide awesome happens!

pbmax
10-06-2011, 06:55 AM
10 championships, then zilch. Otto Graham is MVP for all times.

Except for the Championship win 1964. Then it was Jim Brown.