OFFICIAL GREEN BAY PACKERS vs. SAN DIEGO CHARGERS GAME DAY THREAD

[pbmax]

Staks is running like a man possessed

[channtheman]

Just do not get the empty backfield in that situation. Lucky to get the flag.

No kidding. 2 good runs and then make it obvious that you are passing? Brain fart on MM.

[mmmdk]

Starks running hard!

[pbmax]

Still need a first.

Play action

[pittstang5]

2 min warning yet. Come On Offense!

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Staks is running like a man possessed

Feed the demon!

[mmmdk]

No kidding. 2 good runs and then make it obvious that you are passing? Brain fart on MM.

Looked like the play by Giants when they "killed" Montana in NFC champ game.

[pbmax]

3rd and 2. Could do anything,

[channtheman]

Get the first and it's over.

[channtheman]

Shit.

[pbmax]

Like the call but Starks got caught in the penetration.

[denverYooper]

Well, shit.

[pittstang5]

Horrible call! Come on Asshole McCarthy....God Damn it all to Hell!!!

[channtheman]

They will have a minute, and unfortunately that's all they need.

[pbmax]

How did that not get blocked?

[channtheman]

Horrible call! Come on Asshole McCarthy....God Damn it all to Hell!!!

It wasn't that bad.

[mmmdk]

Brain fart again; give AR the ball.

[pittstang5]

LET's GO DEFENSE!!!!!!

[gbgary]

dumb. play action 5 yard pass. what's so hard about that?!

[mmmdk]

How did that not get blocked?

Yeah, you could hear it!

[channtheman]

3 more plays.

[pbmax]

Rivers is hearing footsteps in the pocket.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Gut check for the defense.

[channtheman]

This is a sad sad defense.

[pittstang5]

Let's go DEFENSE

[pbmax]

Dammit. D got the O adjustment they wanted and still couldn't get to Rivers.

[channtheman]

Poor Clay Matthews expected to cover 2 guys, one of them Gates.

[Freak Out]

Are Dickey and Fouts playing today?

[mmmdk]

LET's GO DEFENSE!!!!!!

Woot! :shock:

[pittstang5]

PLEASE ONE TIME

[channtheman]

Shit! A sack there would have nearly ended it.

[pbmax]

Walden got him

[pittstang5]

OH COME ON!!! CHARGERS ARE LIKE GREASED PIGS!!!

[mmmdk]

GET HIM DOWN :mad:

[Freak Out]

Rivers.....ha ha. Dude won't stop.

[channtheman]

The refs hate Woodson. He will never get any fucking call to go his way.

[pittstang5]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!

[Freak Out]

Fuck you stripes.

[pbmax]

Weak.

[pittstang5]

OK, that was legit. OT here we come

[mmmdk]

PI

[pbmax]

SHIELDS!!

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Come on! Gates isnt a china doll....let them play!

[pbmax]

Come on! Gates isnt a china doll....let them play!

Esp bull as Gates was pushing too.

[mmmdk]

How was that not a pick, Shields?

[channtheman]

Haha, FUCK YOU RIVERS and FUCK YOU REFS!

[pbmax]

Rivers is throwing scared.

[pittstang5]

YEAH!! FUCK YOU RIVERS> YESSSSSSSSS

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Charlie saves the day. Still not a good day for the defense.

[Guiness]

what was that PI call???

Announcers saying contact at the top of the route, and will be called every time. Didn't look like much to me, Woodson is drawing a lot of penalties!

[mmmdk]

Peprah doing his job! :tup:

[gbgary]

that's offensive pi. pushing off.

pick 6?? almost. woo hoo!

[pbmax]

Rivers is throwing scared.

Or his arm is damaged. Guy was open deep but he threw early and short. Maybe worried about safety but seems unlikely.

[pittstang5]

HELLS YEAH!!!

[pbmax]

8-0 the ugly way.

[channtheman]

FIRST!

I'm with a lot of people on this game. I don't think the Pack will go undefeated but I don't necessarily see how we lose to anyone with how well our offense is playing. It seems if we can get even a little pressure on Rivers we should be able to intercept him a couple of times. He has really been struggling this year. However, the major wammy is my dad is going to this game without me. Game over, we lose in a close nailbiter that ends with everyone being pissed off and shitting all over everyone else.

The curse is broken!

[denverYooper]

This D sure will elevate the heart rate.

I just got my workout in from that last 8 minutes.

[channtheman]

I love that the Patriots lost to the Giants almost exactly like the Super Bowl! Pats take lead late, but not late enough as the Giants come right back and score the winning TD with seconds left!

[pittstang5]

This D sure will elevate the heart rate.

I just got my workout in from that last 8 minutes.

HA, I got it all game. I won't have to workout at all this week.

[mmmdk]

An ugly win is still a win; only referring to the Packers defense.

:pack:

[red]

good god

we score 45 points and still just hang on for the win?

no lead is safe with this team

[Jimx29]

Horrible call! Come on Asshole McCarthy....God Damn it all to Hell!!!Just when i start to warm up to MM, he comes up with absolute horseshit calls like this.

[gbgary]

between the refs, our d's miscommunication, and jordy not getting that onside kick, that ended up being more exciting than it needed to be.

[Guiness]

ok, this has nothing to with the game, but that homeland security commercial was brutal! Way to build some fear mongering

[mmmdk]

Can the Packers D get their bad ways reversed? Presently I really doubt it!

Our offense is historically good though. ST doing ok as well.

[Fritz]

Pass rush? What pass rush?

[mmmdk]

ok, this has nothing to with the game, but that homeland security commercial was brutal! Way to build some fear mongering

I'm interested; do tell more! Please!

[digitaldean]

Boy, Aaron freakin' Rodgers was awesome. The overall pass defense...mixed bag at best. Special teams did their damndedst to imitate the Badgers from the past 3 games.

Yes, the 2 pick 6's were great. But the quick score after the botched onside kick recovery was lame.

Concerned about Claymaker's hammy, he was limping badly.

Turnovers are saving this defense right now.

That offense is absolutely smokin'. The pass to Jennings for the TD plus the laser on the run to Nelson are just jawdroppingly great.

Bring on the Queens!

[digitaldean]

Reminds me of the Lynn Dickey days. Defense was a sieve but the offense was awesome.

[pbmax]

Let the unhinged speculation about an undeated season commence!

16-0

[Joemailman]

The secondary coaches have some work to do.

[Fritz]

Reminds me of the Lynn Dickey days. Defense was a sieve but the offense was awesome.

Yeah, and the one year they made it to the playoffs, Dallas took them apart after the Pack had a first-round win.

[mmmdk]

good god

we score 45 points and still just hang on for the win?

no lead is safe with this team

This D resembles the 1998 D that got abused too.

[pbmax]

Concerned about Claymaker's hammy, he was limping badly.

When did you see it?

[mmmdk]

Reminds me of the Lynn Dickey days. Defense was a sieve but the offense was awesome.

That era too and the 1998 & 1999 seasons as well.

[gbgary]

Reminds me of the Lynn Dickey days. Defense was a sieve but the offense was awesome.

yup. they were great.

[Joemailman]

nm

[red]

we've talked for a long time that a-rod fallowing favre was like young following montana

we might need to scrap that idea

we've replaced a guy who is considered one of the best all time and owns most passing records, with a guy who somehow could be much much better.

a-rods numbers went insane today, but those throws he made we unbelievable

[mmmdk]

nm

I did my best to fill in! :lol:

[Joemailman]

:laugh:
SD rips the pack apart in a laugher 42-21.


I don't see how we keep SD under 30 points. Still, the Pack wins 42-35ish

Pretty close!

[Guiness]

I'm interested; do tell more! Please!

2 scenes -

Guy walking down a street, turns his head and looks at someone, then another scene with a woman. It then is cuts to a split screen with the first guy talking to a police officer and pointing, and the woman was on the other half of the screen, not sure what was going on there.

caption at the bottom - 'Report suspicious activity' and Homeland Security in small.

you know the basic request to spy on your neighbours and report what you don't like. You know, the program East Germany used to great effect. And as far as I can tell from Homeland Security's interested in streaming TV programs, so I guess they want people to let them know if you're aware of anyone doing that.

[denverYooper]

D reminds me more of the Saints from a couple years ago: Boom or Bust.

[Teamcheez1]

The defense played horribly today except for the turnovers (which may be more on Rivers than great plays). What did Capers do for the last two weeks???

I shouldn't complain because we are still winning, however I see this coming back to bite us in the playoffs unless we learn to play just "average" defense.

[pittstang5]

I really thought this D would play better after the bye. Especially against a banged up Chargers O-line and having fresher legs. Rivers is no slouch, but this D just can't generate pressure. Tunrovers are great, especially the pick 6's but that isn't always going to come our way.

Is Capers just using old stuff that everyone knows?

[mmmdk]

2 scenes -

Guy walking down a street, turns his head and looks at someone, then another scene with a woman. It then is cuts to a split screen with the first guy talking to a police officer and pointing, and the woman was on the other half of the screen, not sure what was going on there.

caption at the bottom - 'Report suspicious activity' and Homeland Security in small.

you know the basic request to spy on your neighbours and report what you don't like. You know, the program East Germany used to great effect. And as far as I can tell from Homeland Security's interested in streaming TV programs, so I guess they want people to let them know if you're aware of anyone doing that.

Thanks! You're one of the good guys.

[mmmdk]

D reminds me more of the Saints from a couple years ago: Boom or Bust.

Nice observation.

[gbgary]

the D is ok. just ok...and that's good enough. they nearly got us 21 points today. they get pressure but not a lot of sacks. they usually have a better second half in games after the adjustments made. today would have been a two td win or more but a couple of bad calls (both on third down i believe) and jordy not catching that os kick, put extra pressure on the d. also...we should never run on third and short. lol


edit...they gotta fix that communication issue.

[Noodle]

It's been said before, but I'll say it again. Our D is hurting this year because we have not been able to replace Jenkins. It now is pretty clear that letting Jenkins go was a mistake. I don't blame TT, it was a tough call, and lord knows Cullen's injury history was likely a factor.

But in the end, it was a mistake. We're seeing the consequence of his absence in our inability to get to the QB.

[digitaldean]

This D resembles the 1998 D that got abused too.

Two of the beat writers posted on Twitter (Hakeem Copeland for GBPG, and I believe Drew Olson from ESPN Milwaukee)

[gbgary]

It's been said before, but I'll say it again. Our D is hurting this year because we have not been able to replace Jenkins. It now is pretty clear that letting Jenkins go was a mistake. I don't blame TT, it was a tough call, and lord knows Cullen's injury history made was likely a factor.

But in the end, it was a mistake. We're seeing the consequence of his absence in our inability to get to the QB.

maybe neal will be ready by playoff time (and no one else hurt in the meantime).

[mmmdk]

It's been said before, but I'll say it again. Our D is hurting this year because we have not been able to replace Jenkins. It now is pretty clear that letting Jenkins go was a mistake. I don't blame TT, it was a tough call, and lord knows Cullen's injury history made was likely a factor.

But in the end, it was a mistake. We're seeing the consequence of his absence in our inability to get to the QB.

You're right but it seems worse than missing Jenkins. Lots of bad ankles and a gambling secondary; it's like watching Brett Favre play quaterback. Cardiac crazy football!

[digitaldean]

It's been said before, but I'll say it again. Our D is hurting this year because we have not been able to replace Jenkins. It now is pretty clear that letting Jenkins go was a mistake. I don't blame TT, it was a tough call, and lord knows Cullen's injury history made was likely a factor.

But in the end, it was a mistake. We're seeing the consequence of his absence in our inability to get to the QB.
Compound that with Neal not being on the field. Even if Neal is 1/2 the player of Jenkins, they could use that 1/2 right now (without blitzing).

[mmmdk]

Two of the beat writers posted on Twitter (Hakeem Copeland for GBPG, and I believe Drew Olson from ESPN Milwaukee)

What was tweeted?

[pittstang5]

It's been said before, but I'll say it again. Our D is hurting this year because we have not been able to replace Jenkins. It now is pretty clear that letting Jenkins go was a mistake. I don't blame TT, it was a tough call, and lord knows Cullen's injury history made was likely a factor.

But in the end, it was a mistake. We're seeing the consequence of his absence in our inability to get to the QB.

Possibly, whether it's Jenkins or whoever, the pass rush is definitely not the same. Kicker to all this, seems Jenkins is doing very good for the Eagles. Not that I wish him ill will, but it's one of those things, why couldn't he stay healthy for us. I didn't think he's make it out of Eagles training camp.

[mmmdk]

the D is ok. just ok...and that's good enough. they nearly got us 21 points today. they get pressure but not a lot of sacks. they usually have a better second half in games after the adjustments made. today would have been a two td win or more but a couple of bad calls (both on third down i believe) and jordy not catching that os kick, put extra pressure on the d. also...we should never run on third and short. lol


edit...they gotta fix that communication issue.

Your post has got merit; especially about 3rd and short! But you're too kind to the D.

[pbmax]

2 scenes -

Guy walking down a street, turns his head and looks at someone, then another scene with a woman. It then is cuts to a split screen with the first guy talking to a police officer and pointing, and the woman was on the other half of the screen, not sure what was going on there.

caption at the bottom - 'Report suspicious activity' and Homeland Security in small.

you know the basic request to spy on your neighbours and report what you don't like. You know, the program East Germany used to great effect. And as far as I can tell from Homeland Security's interested in streaming TV programs, so I guess they want people to let them know if you're aware of anyone doing that.

Never saw that ad. And the interest in streamed games has less to do with overreaching security apparatus in response to 9/11 than it does to reorganizing departments after Homeland Security became its own dept.

[Bretsky]

Let the unhinged speculation about an undeated season commence!

16-0


I believe I've now started 14 Game Day Threads in a Row

[digitaldean]

What was tweeted?

I take it back it was Bill Michaels (formerly of WTMJ). https://twitter.com/#!/Bill_Michaels

"Matthews clearly limping with hammy."

[Upnorth]

I believe I've now started 14 Game Day Threads in a Row

And I for one look forward to your 26th

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I think we miss Collins back there a lot. At least half those touchdowns were b/c of bad communication b/w the corners and safeties.

[gbgary]

I believe I've now started 14 Game Day Threads in a Row

all wins!!

[Joemailman]

I think we miss Collins back there a lot. At least half those touchdowns were b/c of bad communication b/w the corners and safeties.

Yep, Tramon seems to be jumping short routes expecting safety help deep, and it's not there. Not sure who's at fault, but it's a problem.

[mmmdk]

This team deserves a place in the history books; the 2011 Packers offense is close to ANY of the great NFL offenses throughout time. Packers defense needs to cure their illness and play with a purpose; let's bring the 5th Lombardi trophy to Green Bay. I'd hate to see this team fizzle into the Houston Oilers.

[Fosco33]

I don't see how we keep SD under 30 points. Still, the Pack wins 42-35ish

<----- This...

[Bossman641]

Zombo just can't shake the injury bug - shoulder, knee, now a hamstring injury.

[RashanGary]

We're missing Collins and Jenkins right now. Raji is not the same pass rusher this year. (doubled a lot?)

Neal coming back, Tramon getting healthy and Burnett/Peprah getting on the same page could be enough to put them back on top. Starks missed his whole SR season in college with a shoulder, then missed much of his rookie year with the hammy. . . He came in, in the playoffs and gave us the running game we needed to dominate on offense.

There is no guarantee stamped anywhere saying the Packers pass rush/secondary will not improve.

[mmmdk]

Zombo just can't shake the injury bug - shoulder, knee, now a hamstring injury.

Both Clay & Zombo with a hammy?? That's bad.

[Bretsky]

JH is spot on. We miss Collins and Jenkins. We really don't have a pass threat on the DL so teams can focus on Raji more. My guess is next year we go CB and DL and LB early and often.

A couple other observations.

Woodsen mugs people a lot.
He gets away with a ton of illegal contact so it's hard for me to complain when he gets a call against him.
I hope we win another title with Ryan Grant this year so he can experience a title before we move on w/o him.

HATE TO SAY IT...ABSOLUTELY HATE TO SAY IT....but I hope we win another title this year for DD because we need to move on w/o him. The ugly side of the biz.

[smuggler]

Yeah but there were three calls against him that were dubious at best. Those penalties extended drives and gave the Chargers 10 points. If I'm Woodson, I am asking for an apology from the league. That was horse shit.

[gbgary]

Yeah but there were three calls against him that were dubious at best. Those penalties extended drives and gave the Chargers 10 points. If I'm Woodson, I am asking for an apology from the league. That was horse shit.

i agree. gates (i believe it was) initiated the contact on the first, and jackson (i believe it was) did the same and pushed off on the second.

[RashanGary]

Woodson is really good at making it look like he didn't do anything. All of those calls were legit. Woodson just made them look better than they were.

The game is slow for him. He does things on purpose (clearly IMO) but he's great at making it look incidental. He's two clicks ahead of just about every player in the NFL with playing the little games within the game. He might get beat by a better athlete, but he does a lot of things that make up for it.

Jennings and Rodgers are our other two brilliant players IMO.

[Brandon494]

What happen with Vic So'oto? Is he still injured?

[Joemailman]

What happen with Vic So'oto? Is he still injured?

He practiced this week. They went with Zombo instead. That may change.

[RashanGary]

Anyone notice Finley get that bad release in the endzone? AR was pissed.

Nelson and Jennings are the guys AR trusts.

[Brandon494]

He practiced this week. They went with Zombo instead. That may change.

I hope so, I would like to see So'oto get some playing time after seeing what he did in the KC game.

[denverYooper]

I take it back it was Bill Michaels (formerly of WTMJ). https://twitter.com/#!/Bill_Michaels

"Matthews clearly limping with hammy."

Clay has been sitting out a lot of practices.

[gbgary]

Anyone notice Finley get that bad release in the endzone? AR was pissed.

Nelson and Jennings are the guys AR trusts.

AR was pissed that he threw the ball two yards oob.

[Joemailman]

HATE TO SAY IT...ABSOLUTELY HATE TO SAY IT....but I hope we win another title this year for DD because we need to move on w/o him. The ugly side of the biz.

Yeah, I think it's gonna be time. Steelers are going through the same thing with Hines Ward.

[Brandon494]

AR was pissed that he threw the ball two yards oob.

Exactly

[Pugger]

Whoops...

[Pugger]

The opposing defense.

:lol:

[Pugger]

between the refs, our d's miscommunication, and jordy not getting that onside kick, that ended up being more exciting than it needed to be.

Had Jordy got that onside kick we wouldn't have had to reach for a tums there and the game wouldn't have been close.

[channtheman]

Had Jordy got that onside kick we wouldn't have had to reach for a tums there and the game wouldn't have been close.

Why did he slap it forward? He should either just catch it, or slap it towards the sideline.

[Pugger]

It's been said before, but I'll say it again. Our D is hurting this year because we have not been able to replace Jenkins. It now is pretty clear that letting Jenkins go was a mistake. I don't blame TT, it was a tough call, and lord knows Cullen's injury history was likely a factor.

But in the end, it was a mistake. We're seeing the consequence of his absence in our inability to get to the QB.

Unfortunately I think we thought we could let Jenkins go and plug in Neal in his stead but poor Neal is almost always injured. Yes, I'm using hindsight but the decision to let CJ walk was a mistake.

[Pugger]

We're missing Collins and Jenkins right now. Raji is not the same pass rusher this year. (doubled a lot?)

Neal coming back, Tramon getting healthy and Burnett/Peprah getting on the same page could be enough to put them back on top. Starks missed his whole SR season in college with a shoulder, then missed much of his rookie year with the hammy. . . He came in, in the playoffs and gave us the running game we needed to dominate on offense.

There is no guarantee stamped anywhere saying the Packers pass rush/secondary will not improve.

It isn't helping us to have Burnett one-handed either. He is still basically a rookie and we are missing Collins' LEADERSHIP back there.

[Pugger]

Yeah but there were three calls against him that were dubious at best. Those penalties extended drives and gave the Chargers 10 points. If I'm Woodson, I am asking for an apology from the league. That was horse shit.

This.

[pbmax]

Ryan Taylor had the best shot at that onside kick and it went between his legs somehow. Nelson had to fall/dive to reach it. Not sure why he thought batting it would be best, but Taylor should have had it first.

[Pugger]

Woodson is really good at making it look like he didn't do anything. All of those calls were legit. Woodson just made them look better than they were.

The game is slow for him. He does things on purpose (clearly IMO) but he's great at making it look incidental. He's two clicks ahead of just about every player in the NFL with playing the little games within the game. He might get beat by a better athlete, but he does a lot of things that make up for it.

Jennings and Rodgers are our other two brilliant players IMO.

There was one penalty on Woodson that drives me crazy. Gates stopped in the middle of his route and Woodson doesn't stop in time so he runs into Gates and Woodson gets the flag. IMO it was GATES who initiated the contact, not the defender. But the DB rarely gets that call. :x

[mission]

There was one penalty on Woodson that drives me crazy. Gates stopped in the middle of his route and Woodson doesn't stiop in time and HE gets the flag. IMO it was GATES who initiated the contact, not the defender. But the DB rarely gets that call. :x

And the contact had nothing to do with the incomplete pass. Those are the worst imo/

[Pugger]

Why did he slap it forward? He should either just catch it, or slap it towards the sideline.

Donno. It took a funny bounce right before Jordy slapped it so another one of our guys missed the ball there too. :-(

[pbmax]

There was one penalty on Woodson that drives me crazy. Gates stopped in the middle of his route and Woodson doesn't stop in time so he runs into Gates and Woodson gets the flag. IMO it was GATES who initiated the contact, not the defender. But the DB rarely gets that call. :x


And the contact had nothing to do with the incomplete pass. Those are the worst imo/

I think running into the recveiver, even if the receiver pulls a Road Runner on you gets a flag every time. Frustrating, but they are pretty consistent about that.

I do agree this would have been a better no call since that pass wasn't going to be caught after Gates stopped.

[channtheman]

That was a heads up play by Gates. Receivers on the sidelines should do it more if they ball is overthrown. Just slow down and let the defender run into you.

[Bretsky]

That call is consistently made. Chuck is a professional mugger but he's very crafty and gets away with more than he's called for

[mraynrand]

There was one penalty on Woodson that drives me crazy. Gates stopped in the middle of his route and Woodson doesn't stop in time so he runs into Gates and Woodson gets the flag.

In any rear-ender, the police always ticket for following too close.

[mraynrand]

That was a heads up play by Gates. Receivers on the sidelines should do it more if they ball is overthrown. Just slow down and let the defender run into you.

Just so long as Woodson respects him in the morning.

[Jimx29]

There was one penalty on Woodson that drives me crazy. Gates stopped in the middle of his route and Woodson doesn't stop in time so he runs into Gates and Woodson gets the flag. IMO it was GATES who initiated the contact, not the defender. But the DB rarely gets that call. :x
and add to the situation that the ball was not catch able.

BTW....why wasn't everyone and their cousin on the sideline yelling at Peprah to sit his ass down!? In that situation after he had the pick, he should of been on the ground in the fetal position guarding the ball. period

[sheepshead]

and add to the situation that the ball was not catch able.

BTW....why wasn't everyone and their cousin on the sideline yelling at Peprah to sit his ass down!? In that situation after he had the pick, he should of been on the ground in the fetal position guarding the ball. period

yep and yep

[mmmdk]

No need to Ponder the notion that rookie Ponder will tear the Packers defense to pieces; thank goodness for Rodgers & our offense.

I hope the defense is embarrassed, if not, then it's because they know deep down that this is who they are.

[smuggler]

Just thought I would add that it was Bishop who had the ball go through his legs on the onside kick, not Ryan Taylor.

[Joemailman]

No need to Ponder the notion that rookie Ponder will tear the Packers defense to pieces; thank goodness for Rodgers & our offense.

I hope the defense is embarrassed, if not, then it's because they know deep down that this is who they are.

I think they're a little embarrassed. Woodson sounded pretty down about the way the defense played. I'd be surprised if they don't play a lot better this week.

[Bossman641]

and add to the situation that the ball was not catch able.

BTW....why wasn't everyone and their cousin on the sideline yelling at Peprah to sit his ass down!? In that situation after he had the pick, he should of been on the ground in the fetal position guarding the ball. period

Peprah's friend told him he had a dream that Peprah would get a pick 6 with the game on the line. I think Peprah was trying to prove him right.

And no...I'm not making this up

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/133328573.html

[gbgary]

AR was pissed that he threw the ball two yards oob.


Exactly

and finley still managed to make the catch.

[Pugger]

and add to the situation that the ball was not catch able.

BTW....why wasn't everyone and their cousin on the sideline yelling at Peprah to sit his ass down!? In that situation after he had the pick, he should of been on the ground in the fetal position guarding the ball. period

No Charger was anywhere near him and he kept the clock running. But once he got into traffic he should have gone down.

[Guiness]

That was a heads up play by Gates. Receivers on the sidelines should do it more if they ball is overthrown. Just slow down and let the defender run into you.

I thought we got a similar call to what you're recommending earlier in the game.

Jordy drew a PI flag on a ball that seemed high and went OOB. When they showed the replay, the DB had grabbed his jersey earlier in the route, so it was a legit call. The holding obviously affected the route, but the ball looked uncatchable anyways.

I've got a question related to this - does that pass count as an incompletion? I'd guess no, because the penalty wipes out the play.

[channtheman]

I thought we got a similar call to what you're recommending earlier in the game.

Jordy drew a PI flag on a ball that seemed high and went OOB. When they showed the replay, the DB had grabbed his jersey earlier in the route, so it was a legit call. The holding obviously affected the route, but the ball looked uncatchable anyways.

I've got a question related to this - does that pass count as an incompletion? I'd guess no, because the penalty wipes out the play.

No it counts as nothing other than a penalty.

And to whoever said the ball went through Bishop's legs on the onside kick, it actually didn't. It was number 82, which is in fact, Ryan Taylor.

[gbgary]

looks like the game is on nfl network's instant replay tonight/this week.