OFFICIAL GREEN BAY PACKERS vs. SAN DIEGO CHARGERS GAME DAY THREAD

[Bretsky]

24 HOURS TO GAME DAY; and here is our next challenge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vFJEuws1tc&feature=related


Yes, they have had their rough edges lately, but da Chargers are fighting for their lives and this game will be a fight.

Going into this season, Philip Rivers was thought to be one of the most clutch QB's in the NFL. He's been missing a few things lately......Sproles....a healthy Gates.....and a healthy Vincent Jackson.

Sproles isn't coming back, but a healthy Gates is on his way and Green Bay certainly has no safety that is qualified to carry his Jock Strap.

On Defense, expect the Dominator to show a lot of looks that will match up Charles Woodsen with Antonio Gates. Unfortunately, that will lead to Tyrone Williams and Sam Shields being matched up with two stellar WR's in Vincent Jackson and Malcome Floyd, and on the road they will struggle. The Chargers have had basically the same OL the past three years and it's decent, certainly decent enough to give Philip Rivers to shred the Packers secondary.......which.....BTW, ranks 31st out of 32 teams in giving up 289 passing yards per game. Fortunately, turmovers have save a subpar Packers defense at times from disaster this year. Ain't happening tomorrow. The Chargers will use a mix of short passes and off balance runs. We'll see a healthy dose of running and Antonio Gates mixed in with some effective deep balls. They will score, and they will score often.

On Offense, expect the Packers to move the ball pretty consistently. The Chargers rank near the bottom in terms of sacks and turnovers, which has been at the heart of their inability to be remotely consistent. The recipe from stopping the Packers Offense is rushing four and getting to AROD; I don't think the Chargers have the depth to do that. Expect
AROD to use a lot of different receivers in shredding the Chargers secondary. While they have one of the best CB's in football in da Jammer, they just don't have the depth to cover all of our weapons.

All of this spells out a high scoring game in the high 20's to 30's. The Packers seem pretty dam relaxed. The undefeated talk is starting to hit the National Media. The Chargers absolutely have to win this game, and a struggling AFC team with a ton of talent in a near must win scenario at home is not good news.

Rivers is Mr Clutch. Expect Big Scoring. Expect a bad call that da homers will be yelling about in here. Crosby's perfection has now been written about in the newspapers; which means he's going to miss a key kick soon.

Plus, what is NOT to like about the Chargers ?? Let's all say it together ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMYNa_lyg1Q&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1F4KwpK15k&feature=related

This one is going to be a nailbiter. It's a playoff game for the Chargers and a trap game for da Pack.

Da Chargers Stay in the Playoffs.
Crosby misses a 4th quarter field goal that sends Tony yelling for his head again !


Chargers 34
Pack 31

Take it to the Bank

Whammy Live on !

[channtheman]

FIRST!

I'm with a lot of people on this game. I don't think the Pack will go undefeated but I don't necessarily see how we lose to anyone with how well our offense is playing. It seems if we can get even a little pressure on Rivers we should be able to intercept him a couple of times. He has really been struggling this year. However, the major wammy is my dad is going to this game without me. Game over, we lose in a close nailbiter that ends with everyone being pissed off and shitting all over everyone else.

[Upnorth]

Chann your families post loss tradition is very different than mine. How does being angry and doing scat help your family cope?
So I think we win and they don't come within 7 in the fourth quarter. Cm has being generating a ton of pressure and we are good at pushing the pocket. It will have tense moments but we will win.

Also superman would destroy punisher.

[Brando19]

You're pretty believable on gameday, Bretsky! But....Phillip Rivers is Mr. Clutch? You lost me on that one...lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E26_XD-uS3k

[Joemailman]

Packers are more healthy than Chargers. Packers are 4-1 coming off bye under MM. (Only loss was in OT to 8-0 Tennessee team in 2008).

Packers 30
Chargers 23

[Fosco33]

Crazy how time flies... last time GB played in San Diego was '03...

The Packers were red hot - having started the year terribly and aiming for a playoff birth. This was the year when Favre broke his thumb and his dad died the following week (MNF - Raiders).

I think it was also when US troops caught Saddam Hussein. I was at the game with lots of WI transplants to SoCal and just recall the whole scene felt patriotic.

Fast forward 8 years...
-Favre is finally retired. Classic quote from that game, ""I don't blame them. I'm old and washed up," Favre cracked afterward. "That doesn't bother me.""

-Drew Brees has played many years with the Saints.

-Longwell set a franchise points record (do we even recall him being here anymore?)

-Driver had 8 catches for 112 yards and a TD.

-US is finally pulling out of Iraq.

Just shows - some things change - some things the same...



Here's thinking the Pack goes to SD and takes care of business in similar fashion to last time-

Pack 38 - Chargers 21

[MJZiggy]

Longwell who? Isn't he like an Applebees spokesperson or something?

[The Shadow]

Packers : 37
Chargers : 17

[esoxx]

Coaching and QB mismatch.
Packers roll 31 - 16

[Bretsky]

You're pretty believable on gameday, Bretsky! But....Phillip Rivers is Mr. Clutch? You lost me on that one...lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E26_XD-uS3k


I think up until this year Rivers has been pretty clutch.
Losing Sproles and not having Gates healthy and Jackson banged up has really hurt him

[mraynrand]

Tyrone Williams?

[CaptainKickass]

Obligatory game day post

[Fritz]

I always, always feel better after the Cap'n posts.

[mission]

31-10 go pack!

[Tony Oday]

SD rips the pack apart in a laugher 42-21.

[MadtownPacker]

I always, always feel better after the Cap'n posts.
I always, always feel better when you show any sign of a spinal section existing in you. Except today.

If the Pack loses someone gets to sports a pink chargers jersey. With that said prayer to football Gods - Please Raji go off on Rivers and make this a done deal early.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Stupid Fox thinks I'd rather watch Giants v. Patriots.

[Brando19]

Stupid Fox thinks I'd rather watch Giants v. Patriots.

I know! The Packers game isn't televised here. Who gives a piss about the Pats/Giants???? Not me.

[ThunderDan]

Packers needed to focus on Gates and stuff the run. If we do that it will be an easy win pulling away late. Our CBs >> their WRs.

[Freak Out]

I thought this was a CBS game?

[Jimx29]

I don't see how we keep SD under 30 points. Still, the Pack wins 42-35ish

[Brandon494]

GO PACK GO

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I thought this was a CBS game?

When an NFC team plays at an AFC team it's a Fox game, and vice versa for CBS.

[Freak Out]

I know! The Packers game isn't televised here. Who gives a piss about the Pats/Giants???? Not me.

FUCK FOX!

[TennesseePackerBacker]

For anyone subjected to watching the Pats/Giants.

http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/90681/1/watch-green-bay-packers-vs-san-diego-chargers.html

[Jimx29]

I don't see how we keep SD under 30 points. Still, the Pack wins 42-35ish
Rain re-prediction Pack 32 SD 28

[mmmdk]

Hullo! Tough game...mentally!

[pittstang5]

This drive is ugly. Let's Go D!

[mmmdk]

Having a defense is overrated; we're the Houston Oilers!!!

[gbgary]

come on Packer d. wake up.

[Freak Out]

Packers D is butter.

[pittstang5]

He still gets 1 yard, should have been stuffed for loss or no gain.

[pittstang5]

Pathetic D...Let's Go!

[Freak Out]

Easy.

[channtheman]

That was way too easy. We better come out on fire on offense or this game will be over early.

[mmmdk]

This defense TEBLOWS!!!

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Deja vu defense. Capers usually brings back a better result afte the bye but it sure didnt look that on that drive.

[pittstang5]

Yep, this game is gonna suck. No pass rush and looks like the run D is playing as well as they did against the Vikings. Looks like Capers and the D staff worked wonders over the break. Give me a break.

[gbgary]

too easy. expected help and it wasn't there. chucked f'd up.

[Joemailman]

That was way too easy. We better come out on fire on offense or this game will be over early.

Games are never over early. Remember the 1st quarter at Atlanta?

[Guiness]

He still gets 1 yard, should have been stuffed for loss or no gain.

Are you referring to the 2nd and 3 play? Yes, they should have stopped him at the LOS. Tolbert seemed to break through tackles throughout that drive.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

The Packers have become slow-starters this year. No need to worry just yet.

[mmmdk]

POST # 6000

:rock:

[pittstang5]

Are you referring to the 2nd and 3 play? Yes, they should have stopped him at the LOS. Tolbert seemed to break through tackles throughout that drive.

Yes

[channtheman]

Games are never over early. Remember the 1st quarter at Atlanta?

True. I'm curious how our offense comes out following the bye.

[Freak Out]

Great field position.....let's rock this thing.

[Tony Oday]

Ouch

[mmmdk]

Games are never over early. Remember the 1st quarter at Atlanta?

Yeah but Boltz are more dangerous than Birds! :lol:

[pittstang5]

Uh

[mmmdk]

Ouch

Toe on coffee table?

[channtheman]

Nice box out by Finley on that Rodgers scramble.

[pittstang5]

Please, Rogers, stop sliding head first

[channtheman]

Big 3rd down!

[pittstang5]

Damn, it's raining pretty good.

[Freak Out]

Dayum he's good.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Rodgers! Cant be stopped.

[pittstang5]

That could have been much, much worse.

[channtheman]

Is the coverage that good downfield? I guess so...

[mmmdk]

Without Rodgers...are we the Colts? :shock:

[pittstang5]

Is nobody open...wtf

[pittstang5]

Without Rodgers...are we the Colts? :shock:

Right now, yes

[channtheman]

There you go Jordy! You gotta tell the ref to throw that flag!

[Freak Out]

Easy cheesy.

[channtheman]

Yeah Finley!

[mmmdk]

:wow:

[pittstang5]

Nice

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Saw that coming! it'll be there all day if they want it.

[Brandon494]

ass hole SD fans flicking off Finley haha

[Freak Out]

Right now, yes

No fucking way. Sure...Flynn isn't a Rodgers but we still win a few game. Jeezus.....

[gbgary]

very nice. just knew we were gonna run on that obvious running play. mm becoming unpredictable??

[pittstang5]

Ok, Nice...tie ball game. Defense, so help me God, you let them score on this next possession, I'm going hop on the next flight, fly out there and take on this team myself. Don't make me do that.

[Guiness]

ass hole SD fans flicking off Finley haha

saw that as well on the replay. What was Finley's celebration about? He looked like my kid pretending to be a jet!

[pittstang5]

No fucking way. Sure...Flynn isn't a Rodgers but we still win a few game. Jeezus.....

I meant this game, right now, this very second.

[mmmdk]

OK D - play with some pride [at least].

[channtheman]

ass hole SD fans flicking off Finley haha

I rewound so I could see it. What a bunch of pussies.

[mmmdk]

No fucking way. Sure...Flynn isn't a Rodgers but we still win a few game. Jeezus.....

Colts could win a few games too!

[Freak Out]

Let's go D!

[pbmax]

YOTTO!

So what was the level of panic here after the Jackson TD? :)

TV was right, Wood was caught way up on that.

Not many open so far for Rodgers but it didn't matter.

[channtheman]

Come on Wood! So close.

Get him some stickem.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Oh, so close!

[pittstang5]

That's it, bring the heat...ALL GAME!

[gbgary]

saw that as well on the replay. What was Finley's celebration about? He looked like my kid pretending to be a jet!

he did YOTTO. have you not seen a finley td? he does it everytime.

[pbmax]

PEPRAH!!! Weaving like Joe Washington at half speed!

[channtheman]

Woooooooooooooooooooooooo! hehehe, Rivers blows this year. Great return by Peprah.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

There we go! Love to see Peprah make a play!

[Bretsky]

Packers needed to focus on Gates and stuff the run. If we do that it will be an easy win pulling away late. Our CBs >> their WRs.


I'm not sure I buy into this yet
Tyrone Williams has been very average this year and Shields IMO has not found his form from last year either

[mmmdk]

Holy Fuck - SUPERB INT RETURN.

[pittstang5]

WOW, didn't think Peprah could move like that. Impressive, very impressive!

[Brandon494]

HELL YEA PICK 6! Peprah running like a RB out there

[gbgary]

pick 6 for pep

[pbmax]

Matthews wiped out an O lineman.

[channtheman]

Did you see Matthews block at the end? Damn that was sweet.

[Freak Out]

Buy a refundable ticket Stang? :)

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Anyone see the block by Mathews? Holy Christ.

[pbmax]

I'm not sure I buy into this yet
Tyrone Williams has been very average this year and Shields IMO has not found his form from last year either

Well, it worked on one drive anyway :)

[Freak Out]

PEPRAH!!! Weaving like Joe Washington at half speed!

Lol...awesome.

[channtheman]

Anyone see the block by Mathews? Holy Christ.

It was great!

[pittstang5]

Buy a refundable ticket Stang? :)

Will do!

[mmmdk]

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde defense; will have to do! :lol:

[pittstang5]

Let's Go D!

[mmmdk]

Monster block by Claymaker!

[KalamazooPackerFan]

On the replay the Chargers looked like they were looking or ways to NOT tackle while Matthews and hawk were guided misssiles.

[channtheman]

On the replay the Chargers looked like they were looking or ways to NOT tackle while Matthews and hawk were guided misssiles.

I noticed that as well. One of the Chargers receivers watched Peprah run right by him. Pathetic attempts to tackle if you can even call them that.

[channtheman]

We are doing a great job getting into the backfield, but then we still let the RB get a yard or 2 after contact.

[pittstang5]

Can't believe this Tolbert guy is giving them this much trouble.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Hawk throwing the shoe.....thats the attitude we need to see!

[channtheman]

FUCK YEAH!!!!

[Brandon494]

hahahahaha YES!

[pbmax]

Who needs our Offense?

Maybe Denver could borrow it? :)

[pittstang5]

BEA.....UTIFUL

[Freak Out]

Stang....you put the fear of god in them! Lol...

[Jimx29]

holy shit has rivers fallen away

[mmmdk]

A River of interceptions!!!

[TennesseePackerBacker]

This team is playing angry. I love it!

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Wow again! Really, really smart defense design.

[gbgary]

omg. lol

[channtheman]

Hahaha, I love watching our DB's bait these QB's.

[pbmax]

Has Rivers always thrown 3/4 arm angle?

[Brandon494]

Tramon Williams mocking Tebow with the TD....what a thug!

[pittstang5]

Stang....you put the fear of god in them! Lol...

Damn Straight! I'm still packed, ready to roll. (lol)

[MadScientist]

SD had a game plan to keep the Packer offense off the field. Not sure this is quite how they drew it up, but I'll take it.

[channtheman]

Good job on the tackle by Crosby.

[Bossman641]

Yes he has

[Brandon494]

Hawk throwing the shoe.....thats the attitude we need to see!

I'm liking Hawk this season with this new attitude hes been showing.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Who's the Chargers 2nd QB? Seems unlikely but another interception or two and they might have to go to him.

[mmmdk]

Tramon Williams mocking Tebow with the TD....what a thug!

I dig it; religions suck!

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Raji is getting great penetration, he just can't capitalize with a tackle on Tolbert.

[pittstang5]

That sucked ass. Jackson is gonna have 200 yards at this rate.

[channtheman]

Geez.

[Freak Out]

Ok....keep that talk out of here....pure FYI shit.

[pittstang5]

Raji is getting great penetration, he just can't capitalize with a tackle on Tolbert.

A couple guys are getting into the backfield, that have yet to rap him up. Tolberts just runs threw it. Gotta stop that.

[Freak Out]

Who was on Jackson that time?

[pbmax]

Crosby with nice ST tackle and the only reason we know this is that the rest of the team was nowhere close to the returner at any point. That was a HUGE hole.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Who was on Jackson that time?

Tramon

[mmmdk]

Epic batlle: the eyes of Rivers versus Packers sneaky secondary. 'Cos there's no [real] QB pressure yet.

[pbmax]

Who was on Jackson that time?

Tramontana.

[pittstang5]

Oh that sucked too.

Let's go D!

[mmmdk]

Crosby with nice ST tackle and the only reason we know this is that the rest of the team was nowhere close to the returner at any point. That was a HUGE hole.

Phew! Break a leg, Crosby! :wink:

[gbgary]

Tramon Williams mocking Tebow with the TD....what a thug!

no...that was legit.

[channtheman]

Another pick 6 coming? I feel Shields comin on!

EDIT: Damn.

[pbmax]

Odd defense with no one watching a naked RB screen.

[pittstang5]

Again, that was too easy. What were they looking at?

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Does anybody want to tackle Tolbert? (Not that I'd want to.)

[Freak Out]

We need a guy like Tolbert.

[mmmdk]

no...that was legit.

Then he TeBLOWS too!

[pbmax]

Packers D vs. San Diego O: 14-14 tie

[channtheman]

Does anybody want to tackle Tolbert? (Not that I'd want to.)

I don't think they do. Shields wanted nothing to do with him. How big is that guy? 250lbs? He looks like a mini tank out there.

[pbmax]

No more Ford commercials. Please.

[pittstang5]

We need a guy like Tolbert.

Yes. That guy is beastly...today. Even the Base Defense is having issues against him.

[mmmdk]

We need a guy like Tolbert.

No bert in Green Bay please. :lol:

[channtheman]

It looks like Cobb could bust that outside without running into anyone.

[channtheman]

Illegal formation? No, YES! Great run.

[mmmdk]

Offside D - obviously!

[pittstang5]

Knew that was bound to happen. What is going on with Sitton?

[gbgary]

We need a guy like Tolbert.

no. we would run more then and i don't want to run more.

[mmmdk]

Late hit, no flag.

[pbmax]

OK. In Finley's defense, Rodgers is moving him to change the alignment, that wasn't a brain lapse on that play.

[channtheman]

Clearly a penalty.

[Freak Out]

Jammer is an idiot.

[mmmdk]

At least the Zs got that one right.

[Freak Out]

How did Rodgers get that off? Wow.

[pbmax]

Nice second effort by Starks.

[Freak Out]

Starks in beast mode.

[mmmdk]

Jammer is an idiot.

No kiddin', he's a Bert fan. :lol:

[channtheman]

Announcer just said passer rating is useless. Okay, how does he think we should judge QB performance?

[pbmax]

Run pass option.

[pittstang5]

GOD DAMN IT!

[mmmdk]

Starks in beast mode.

That's such good news! :pack:

[Freak Out]

Rodgers......come on.

[pbmax]

Love this call.

[mmmdk]

4th down - GO FOR IT!

[channtheman]

Love this call.

Going for it? I agree.

[pbmax]

Announcer just said passer rating is useless. Okay, how does he think we should judge QB performance?

http://wp.advancednflstats.com/playerstats.php

[mmmdk]

Gotta keep scoring!

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Nice...McCarthy showing some gumption! (Learned that word from my grandma.)

[pbmax]

Announcer just said passer rating is useless. Okay, how does he think we should judge QB performance?

Or http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb

[pittstang5]

Screen?

[channtheman]

That was lame.

[pittstang5]

What the Fuck was that? Seriosly?!?!

[pbmax]

Good GRIEF! Fumble and a first down.

[pbmax]

ZOMBO!

[pittstang5]

Ok, is Tolbert greased up or something. WHY CAN'T THEY TACKLE!!!

[Freak Out]

Tolbert in full beast mode....good for my FF team...bad for the Pack.

[mmmdk]

Great D, Hester!

[pbmax]

Not a catch.

[channtheman]

What the fuck was that Rivers? Holy shit that was ugly.

[mmmdk]

He never had control.

[mmmdk]

Freck you, Zebras!

[pbmax]

Wood with flag.

[pittstang5]

BULL SHIT!!!

[pbmax]

Bad call. Push off.

[Freak Out]

Bad call.

[channtheman]

Shitty shitty call. If anything that was on the Gates.

[pittstang5]

FUCK!

[mmmdk]

Refs are rigged. :mad:

[pittstang5]

Can't get off the field on 3rd down....again.

[pittstang5]

WHy the fuck is Zombo on Gates?

[pbmax]

Zombo with shaky coverage but at least got a tackle. Looked kinda ugly.

[channtheman]

I hate rain games.

[pittstang5]

Let's Go D.

[pbmax]

WHy the fuck is Zombo on Gates?

Blitz.

[mmmdk]

Best defense is getting Rodgers & offense on the field.

[pbmax]

The ref sounds like he is 14 years old.

[Freak Out]

Turner has a serious rooster skin neck.

[pbmax]

Walden with a complete WHIFF! But they got him anyway,

[pittstang5]

Seriously, Now I'm gonna fly out there and show them how to tackle! Tolbert shouldn't have half his yards!!

[channtheman]

3rd and long lets go.

Nice job.

[pbmax]

In this one instance, I liked rushing three.

[channtheman]

Miss all day long.

[pittstang5]

Another Kicker to make a FG against the pack. Easily

[channtheman]

Miss all day long.


Oh what the fuck.

[mmmdk]

Great kick...damn it!

[Guiness]

Has Rivers always thrown 3/4 arm angle?

Yes, his sidearm-ish motion was a knock on him coming out of college

[pittstang5]

Ok, this is gonna be a shootout. Pack needs to score (FGs or TDs) on every possession.

[gbgary]

d getting better as the game goes on. same as every other week. held them to a 52 yard fg. now let's go get a td.

[mmmdk]

Score 7, offense!

[channtheman]

I would love for the offense to come out and look better now.

[mmmdk]

Cobb won't stop.

[pbmax]

Yes, his sidearm-ish motion was a knock on him coming out of college

OK then. I will put away the tin foil hat.

[Freak Out]

Ok Pack.....LETS GO BABY!

[channtheman]

I agree with PB. Please no more fucking Ford commercials.

[mmmdk]

I would love for the offense to come out and look better now.

Yeah and I'm a robot!

[Brandon494]

Shouldnt have made that FG, they got an extra 4 yards on that bs catch fumble by Hester. That was a clear drop!

[channtheman]

Rodgers looking hesitant today.

[pittstang5]

Really, what the hell. Do they want me to have a heart attack?

[Freak Out]

He tried to go belt.

[pittstang5]

Shouldnt have made that FG, they got an extra 4 yards on that bs catch fumble by Hester. That was a clear drop!

Yeah and why didn't McCarthy challenge it too?

[mmmdk]

Great DD but stiff moves.

[channtheman]

That's on the defense all the way.

[pittstang5]

Here we go. Time for them to look like ass. Every god damn week!

[mmmdk]

Refs are evil.

[Freak Out]

Another bad call.

[Brandon494]

TAKE THAT! HELL YEA RODGERS!

[pbmax]

That was a horrible call. If a false start, it was on Sitton not Wells. Hard for a center to false start.

[Guiness]

Chargers coverage must be great. What a run by Rodgers though!

[mmmdk]

Refs are terrible, just awful today. :mad:

[channtheman]

Who would think we would have 21 points and Rodgers has more rushing yards than passing yards?

[mmmdk]

Shitty spot too. That's a 1st down. :mad:

[pittstang5]

Bad Spot. Thought sure he had it

[channtheman]

Refs are fucking us today.

[mmmdk]

Refs are mobsters. Worst half called all season.

[pbmax]

Shouldnt have made that FG, they got an extra 4 yards on that bs catch fumble by Hester. That was a clear drop!

Good point. Worth a challenge in retrospect.

[pittstang5]

Refs are mobsters. Worst half called all season.


That holding call on Woodson still has me pissed.

[channtheman]

That holding call on Woodson still has me pissed.

Woodson has receivers running into him and gets called for penalties.

[mmmdk]

Refs are fucking us today.

Has American refs ever been guilty of collusion? Has happened in England, Germany, Italy & Greece in soccer. Don't tell they can't be bought in America too!?

[channtheman]

Wait a second... so the clock stopped for injury and we go to commercial. Then it runs down to 2 minutes and we get another commercial? Give me a break.

[pbmax]

Has American refs ever been guilty of collusion? Has happened in England, Germany, Italy & Greece in soccer. Don't tell they can't be bought in America too!?

Collusion? Rare. Betting and using inside information? Yes.

[pittstang5]

PB, ya hate the ford commercials. I can't stand the watch commercial with Eli Manning. Been seeing it all day!

[mmmdk]

Collusion? Rare. Betting and using inside information? Yes.

Boston Celtics in the '60ties ?

[pbmax]

Rodgers is cocky. Maybe it was natural he and Brett would mix like oil and water. Perhaps, in the end, a good thing.