Woodson

[Harlan Huckleby]

Doesn't look like Charles can even cover tight ends anymore. People talk about moving Woodson to safety next year, but is it possible that CM is nearing end of his career?

Probably it is on pessimistic side to think he his done, he still is opportunistic playmaker.

Collins was so damn fast. Speed helps a lot at safety in todays nfl, no more chuck cecils back there.

Maybe CM will come on strong in playoffs.

[Brandon494]

CWood has more than enough speed to play safety and leads the league in INT, he still has 2-3 years left in him. While he is not the cover corner he once was I think the guy can still cover TE and most WRs, just not the speed demons.

[Deputy Nutz]

Covering Gates isn't just covering a "tight end". Gates is a match up problem for every team in the NFL. I don't see Revis taking on the task of covering guys like Gates and Finely.

[gbgary]

Doesn't look like Charles can even cover tight ends anymore. People talk about moving Woodson to safety next year, but is it possible that CM is nearing end of his career?

Probably it is on pessimistic side to think he his done, he still is opportunistic playmaker.

Collins was so damn fast. Speed helps a lot at safety in todays nfl, no more chuck cecils back there.

Maybe CM will come on strong in playoffs.

i guess you mean CW instead of CM. i don't remember chuck covering gates. all of gates plays were made with bishop covering him. no? i think chuck's fine for this and next season. we'll see.

[mmmdk]

Covering Gates isn't just covering a "tight end". Gates is a match up problem for every team in the NFL. I don't see Revis taking on the task of covering guys like Gates and Finely.

Oh, I like this post :tup:

[Smidgeon]

i guess you mean CW instead of CM. i don't remember chuck covering gates. all of gates plays were made with bishop covering him. no? i think chuck's fine for this and next season. we'll see.

Chuck got called for a pass interference call when Gates stopped on a route and Charles was tracking the ball in flight trying to make a play. So for at least one play, Charles was covering Gates. In fact, I think that was the adjustment Capers made once Gates started making Bishop look silly.

[Brandon494]

^ He's right, Woodson didnt even cover Gates til that last drive.

[Brandon494]

And Revis could easily take on Gates and Finley.

[Tony Oday]

And Revis could easily take on Gates and Finley.

And lose...agreed

[Brandon494]

^ wrong

[Tony Oday]

^ wrong

^wronger

[steve823]

And Revis could easily take on Gates and Finley.

Revis would get destroyed by either Gates or Finley. Only way he won't get beat is if he gets help from the refs like he did against the Dolphins.

[SkinBasket]

Dork fight!

Someone roll the seven sided die to determine the outcome!

[gbgary]

Dork fight!

Someone roll the seven sided die to determine the outcome!


:lol:

[mraynrand]

Back to the original topic - Woodson can probably cover most TEs. But he's a certainly a liability at corner. The simple fact is that when he replaced Shields in the Superbowl, the Steelers immediately went after him, ad it was everything he could do just to stay in the play. It was a spectacular effort by a very veteran guy. But he's lost a step or two. Can he play safety? I suppose so. But the reality is that the "W" position is his, and he appears to be losing it. The Packers have let Bush run it, but it's not the same. For Woodson to run his "W" position, a lot of other guys have to play their position straight up, by the book. Maybe when Woodson is talking about the Packers scheming to get Matthews away from double teams, he's acknowledging that they need to put Matthews in the featured role of disrupting the opposing offense and put Woodson in a more traditional role where he's no longer doing the "W." It may be an acknowledgement by Woodson that he knows he's no longer that guy.

[smuggler]

I was going to say, Woodson didn't look bad in the SD game. He got flagged a few times on 3 penalties that were either dubious or OPI outright. Other than that, his name wasn't called, which is pretty much what you ask of a corner, right?

Shields on the other hand, is getting eaten alive out there.

[pbmax]

Woodson was on Gates early too. In fact, one of the adjustments after some long completions to WRs in the first half was to pull Wood off Gates some and put a LB on him. Woodson came back to Gates later in the game.

[Freak Out]

Dork fight!

Someone roll the seven sided die to determine the outcome!

A true dork would use a 12 sided die.

[Smeefers]

A true dork would use a 12 sided die.

Come on now. Everyone know's it's a 20 sided die to see if you hit, then an 8 sided die for damage. Pshhh. noob.

[Guiness]

A true dork would use a 12 sided die.

No, the 12 sided die is for calculating Long Sword damage against large creatures :wink:

[Fritz]

Talk about a thread going into a ditch!

[mraynrand]

Talk about a thread going into a ditch!


NERDS! GEEKS!!

http://gothamist.com/images/2004_01_toby.jpg

[Freak Out]

Come on now. Everyone know's it's a 20 sided die to see if you hit, then an 8 sided die for damage. Pshhh. noob.

That's right...it's been awhile. :)

[vince]

You guys are going to give Harlan a coronary jackin his threads like that.


But the reality is that the "W" position is his, and he appears to be losing it. The Packers have let Bush run it, but it's not the same. For Woodson to run his "W" position, a lot of other guys have to play their position straight up, by the book.
I think this is Capers' way of hiding Bush from being attacked in coverage when he's on the field. Earlier this year Whitt said that they were very conscious about making sure they put Bush in positions where he can succeed on D. Bush can't survive covering on the perimeter as well as Woodson, who has lost a step, but his instincts and ball skills are light years better than Bush's.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think Woodson is still talented, but his talents don't fit a traditional position. as Rand said, the problem might be the other players, too many flaws to leave room for CW's rover role.

[mraynrand]

I think Woodson is still talented, but his talents don't fit a traditional position. as Rand said, the problem might be the other players, too many flaws to leave room for CW's rover role.

Or maybe Matthews at this point would make the better rover, and Woodson has to stick with a more mundane assignment.

[SkinBasket]

I think Woodson is still talented, but his talents don't fit a traditional position. as Rand said, the problem might be the other players, too many flaws to leave room for CW's rover role.

I thought you were dead.

[Upnorth]

So Guinness is definitely the dungeon master for this motley crew, patler is the mage, pbmax and vince the clerics, harvey. And gb gary and smeefers the fighters, woody the barbarian, harlan and mtp the theives, frak out the bard (get down get down). Sc and skin are the trolls. My inner geeks has been unleashed. Ziggy and 007 are the elves, gotta love the elves.

So gates is always a coverage problem for every team unless he is doubled. We choose not to double him, so he got his yards. I am more concerned about what tolbert did. He kept moving after second and third contact, so what will NYG and Oak do with there big backs against us?

[mraynrand]

I thought you were dead.


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mpBGa4P5jUo/TJ90CjcSrZI/AAAAAAAAFnk/CiyOwR5XOrQ/s1600/khan3.jpg

[ThunderDan]

So Guinness is definitely the dungeon master for this motley crew, patler is the mage, pbmax and vince the clerics, harvey. And gb gary and smeefers the fighters, woody the barbarian, harlan and mtp the theives, frak out the bard (get down get down). Sc and skin are the trolls. My inner geeks has been unleashed. Ziggy and 007 are the elves, gotta love the elves.

So gates is always a coverage problem for every team unless he is doubled. We choose not to double him, so he got his yards. I am more concerned about what tolbert did. He kept moving after second and third contact, so what will NYG and Oak do with there big backs against us?

I am not really worried about Carson Palmer for OAK. If Eli is on one of his hot streaks we could have a hard time containing their O. Luckily our O can put up 40+ a game so we should be OK.

PS- If Eli is playing like his usual 17-30, 245, 1 TD, 1 INT I am not worried.

[MadtownPacker]

So Guinness is definitely the dungeon master for this motley crew, patler is the mage, pbmax and vince the clerics, harvey. And gb gary and smeefers the fighters, woody the barbarian, harlan and mtp the theives, frak out the bard (get down get down). Sc and skin are the trolls. My inner geeks has been unleashed. Ziggy and 007 are the elves, gotta love the elves.
I don't mind being called a thief but grouping me with Harlan is a low blow.

[mraynrand]

I don't mind being called a thief but grouping me with Harlan is a low blow.

Literally?

[Upnorth]

I don't mind being called a thief but grouping me with Harlan is a low blow.

Just cause you got grouped in with the blue dog does not mean you can't try to assasinate each other for personal gain. Enemies closer and what not right!

[Upnorth]

I don't mind being called a thief but grouping me with Harlan is a low blow.

Just cause you got grouped in with the blue dog does not mean you can't try to assasinate each other for personal gain. Enemies closer and what not right!

Also to those who I have left out, I just could not rapidly think of a class for you, no offense intended.
Also your names did not appear just above in the thread when I decided to geek out.

[The Shadow]

Woodson has lost a step. yes. And there have been games where it seems he is only seen when dragging a receiver down after a catch (and this can seem pretty weird after the seasons when he seemed to come up with at least 2 or 3 game-changing-type plays per game).
But : he is still exactly the guy you want lurking in the secondary, despite the stretches of invisibility. In the big games to come, his innate instincts will pay off - sometimes when least expected. The quick slice into the backfield to cause a fumble (remember the Giant's game?), the tipping of a screen pass, the tripping up of a back attempting to reach the edge, the qb pressure on a blitz - or the timely interception - will matter during crunchtime.

[Fritz]

Sorry, Mad. But you are forever linked now.

http://oneutah.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/blue_dog.jpg

http://i.mnpls.com/450/45062.jpg

http://cache0.bookdepository.co.uk/assets/images/book/medium/9780/2927/9780292721326.jpg

[MJZiggy]

I don't mind being called a thief but grouping me with Harlan is a low blow.

Quit whining. At least you're not a fucking elf.

[MJZiggy]

Woodson has lost a step. yes. And there have been games where it seems he is only seen when dragging a receiver down after a catch (and this can seem pretty weird after the seasons when he seemed to come up with at least 2 or 3 game-changing-type plays per game).
But : he is still exactly the guy you want lurking in the secondary, despite the stretches of invisibility. In the big games to come, his innate instincts will pay off - sometimes when least expected. The quick slice into the backfield to cause a fumble (remember the Giant's game?), the tipping of a screen pass, the tripping up of a back attempting to reach the edge, the qb pressure on a blitz - or the timely interception - will matter during crunchtime.

Oh, you mean there are still people here who want to talk football?

I'm not ready to give up on CWood either.

[Upnorth]

Sorry, Mad. But you are forever linked now.

http://oneutah.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/blue_dog.jpg

http://i.mnpls.com/450/45062.jpg

http://cache0.bookdepository.co.uk/assets/images/book/medium/9780/2927/9780292721326.jpg

So I hope this does not mean I am banned. Also zig you know you wanna be the elf, it will help get better quality men (not gay naval bears fans)

[Pugger]

So Guinness is definitely the dungeon master for this motley crew, patler is the mage, pbmax and vince the clerics, harvey. And gb gary and smeefers the fighters, woody the barbarian, harlan and mtp the theives, frak out the bard (get down get down). Sc and skin are the trolls. My inner geeks has been unleashed. Ziggy and 007 are the elves, gotta love the elves.

So gates is always a coverage problem for every team unless he is doubled. We choose not to double him, so he got his yards. I am more concerned about what tolbert did. He kept moving after second and third contact, so what will NYG and Oak do with there big backs against us?

What am I, chopped liver? :wink:

[pbmax]

Quit whining. At least you're not a fucking elf.

I don't know Zig, some elves are pretty attractive.

http://www.very-faery.com/costume/Blood%20Red/BR/ARWENCLOSE2.JPGhttp://newsoverseas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Cate-Blanchett-Galadriel.jpg

[Harlan Huckleby]

that first elf looks like she could be steven tyler's daughter.

I think ziggy would be exciting in elfen garb. green is her color.

[gbgary]

Quit whining. At least you're not a fucking elf.

:lol:

[mraynrand]

What am I, chopped liver? :wink:


No, you're chopped steak!

http://thekrazycouponlady.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/a1steaks.jpg

[mraynrand]

I don't know Zig, some elves are pretty attractive.

Some are not:

http://www.toyglobe.com/pimages/rudolph/brudolph_03.jpg

WHAT??!! A DENTIST!!!??? You're an elf and elves make toys!!! Now Finish the job or You're FIRED!!!!

[Fritz]

Really, Zig. It's a compliment:

http://www.lessthanmotivational.com/images//2009/04/hot-elf-chicks-demotivational-poster.jpg

[gbgary]

Really, Zig. It's a compliment:

http://www.lessthanmotivational.com/images//2009/04/hot-elf-chicks-demotivational-poster.jpg

now THAT'S an elf!

[Guiness]

I was trying to sort out who was the assassin, then Shadow posted. Nothing sneakier than a shadow!

I think mmmdk would have to be the under monk. They only have those in Europe.

[MJZiggy]

Only on this forum could a thread about Charles Woodson's remaining skills turn into one about elves.

[Upnorth]

Only on this forum could a thread about Charles Woodson's remaining skills turn into one about elves.

Correction, hot elves

[Upnorth]

I was trying to sort out who was the assassin, then Shadow posted. Nothing sneakier than a shadow!

I think mmmdk would have to be the under monk. They only have those in Europe.

And this is why your the dm. Pugger youwant to be the dwarf. With a height issue?

[Pugger]

I'm 5'7" so I don't know if that qualifies for dwarfism.

[pbmax]

Correction, hot elves

Precisely. That is the true tie in.

[SkinBasket]

Oh, you mean there are still people here who want to talk football?

Yeah, but they're total homos.

[vince]

Aren't you the guy with the dick porn problem?

[pbmax]

I'm 5'7" so I don't know if that qualifies for dwarfism.

We can fix that with a low chair and some camera tricks.

[Harlan Huckleby]

We can fix that with a low chair and some camera tricks.


they have websites dedicated to photos & videos peering up women's skirts. I never thought of pbmax as that kind of guy, but then again, we all have secrets. he probably started as a boy with the old mirror on the shoe trick.

[pbmax]

they have websites dedicated to photos & videos peering up women's skirts. I never thought of pbmax as that kind of guy, but then again, we all have secrets. he probably started as a boy with the old mirror on the shoe trick.

If I had wanted to reveal that, I would have said a low camera to go with the low chair.

[Harlan Huckleby]

you just gave me an idea for family gathering this thanksgiving. ( I always had a little thing for aunt martha.)

[Fritz]

Yup, how about ol' Chuck Woodson, eh?

[pbmax]

Yup, how about ol' Chuck Woodson, eh?

His type of football magic is elf-like. Or elvish. Or elvin. Keebler?

[Upnorth]

I would say woodson would be a magic user/theif. He makes him self invisible to the qb then steals the ball for the win! (Good job getting us back on topic Fritz!)

[gbgary]

I'm 5'7" so I don't know if that qualifies for dwarfism.

since i'm 5'8 i'll say you're not even close.

[RashanGary]

I hope he makes it a year or two more. He's still on that border for the HOF. A few more picks (moving him into the top 20 all time) and maybe another ring and his chances go way up.

He's one of my favorite players of all time (Reggie, Sharpe, Woodson, Jennings, ugh. . . Favre when he was cool, Rodgers, Collins, A Green)

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

lol, A Green is Ahman Green and not Alex Green right?

[pbmax]

lol, A Green is Ahman Green and not Alex Green right?

Depends on the poster. If it's Harv or Patler, it's Ahman. If it's Lurker or Justin, it's Alex.

[RashanGary]

Ahman. When I first saw him run, I remember saying, "this isn't like watching Packer football." He was so damn explosive. I've seen great running backs before, but for some reason, when you finally get one on your team, the amazement factor goes up.

[Brandon494]

Imagine this offense with Ahman Green in his prime. :wow:

[gbgary]

Imagine this offense with Ahman Green in his prime. :wow:

yeah man...we'd be 8-0!

[Upnorth]

yeah man...we'd be 8-0!

And people would start talking about 16-0, but bitch about the defence.

[Iron Mike]

Dork fight!

Someone roll the seven sided die to determine the outcome!

http://www.dorkwars.com/images/OldSpiceUrlacher.jpg

I challenge thee to an honor duel!!

[gbgary]

And people would start talking about 16-0, but bitch about the defence.

no 16-0 or 19-0 talk please. the football gods may be near.

[LEWCWA]

Woodson is fine....today he proves it!

[LEWCWA]

Looks pretty good to me.

[gbgary]

as i said...he's fine.

[Upnorth]

Raw stats say Woodson got 8 takles 1 assist. However watching teh game showed he was even more of a presence, solo stuffing peterson for a loss, pressuring Ponder once, making receivers pay for making a catch. I saw at least one pass defended. He was on top of his game last night.

[smuggler]

Ugh he dropped that sure pick-6. He defensed 3 passes, two of which were near interceptions. =(

[JohnMexico]

If only he ever practiced [in the physical prime of his career]

*finally on board*

[Joemailman]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/133843398.html

In a 45-7 total domination of the Vikings at Lambeau Field, Woodson blitzed as much as he has in any game and in so doing helped Matthews to get the one-on-one situations he desired. Woodson came from the slot, the middle, the edge and just about every other spot between the lines.

Asked if that was what he was suggesting when he said Matthews needed some pressure taken off him, Woodson said, "That's exactly what I was talking about."

Maybe Woodson's greatest contribution occurred before the game was even played.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Woodson is fine....today he proves it!
you got to gloating rights

[MadtownPacker]

Dan Patrick show described it best saying it was like there where two Woodsons on the field. He was all over the fucking place!! Like the fucking guy on Xmen who pops up all over the place.

[pbmax]

If only he ever practiced [in the physical prime of his career]

*finally on board*

Quite possible, though it seems near certain that his Raider injuries prior to his FA departure probably contributed to his practice reputation in Oakland.

[MadtownPacker]

Quite possible, though it seems near certain that his Raider injuries prior to his FA departure probably contributed to his practice reputation in Oakland.

Oakland contributed to his reputation in Oakland.

I need to bump the thread where I said CW was a great pickup. Might be the only thing I got right.

[RashanGary]

Dan Patrick show described it best saying it was like there where two Woodsons on the field. He was all over the fucking place!! Like the fucking guy on Xmen who pops up all over the place.

Yeah. Capers seemed to unleash the demons last night. Capers always says he won't run it if he can't trust it. If the players want to be set free, it's up to them.

Reliable defense isn't exactly a given in the NFL. In fact, it seems like a rarity. I imagine it gets boring to just do your job play after play after play without much flexibility. If big plays aren't coming, it probably gets frustrating. One thing I heard that always stuck with me was from Harry Sydney. Great football is doing ordinary things in an extraordinary way and then letting the playmakers loose. Woodson and Matthews are his jokers. Bishop is turning into one too.

Offenses are smart. If one guy is out of place, that's where they go. Over and over and over, the offense wins their battle. Once everyone gets on the same page and the playmakers are let loose. Those guys just being where they're supposed to be. . . . Well, the playmakers are being avoided, the regular guys are in their spot. . . . the offense only has bad choices and those regular guys are right where they're supposed to be to make the play. Everyone wins. Everyone makes plays. Everyone has fun. One missed assignment on each play and everyone loses.

Capers puts it on them to get steady, they work hard to get there and now it's unleashed.

And holy cow, it was fun to listen to the guys after the game. They had so much fun out there. . . . That's why I'm fan.

[mraynrand]

Yeah. Capers seemed to unleash the demons last night. Capers always says he won't run it if he can't trust it. If the players want to be set free, it's up to them.

I think it al depends on his confidence in the man coverage of Shields and Williams, and whether the safeties can communicate. Given that both Shields and Williams appear to be back at full strength, and due to the fact that the Vikings don't have any wide receivers, I'm betting Capers felt pretty comfortable leaving those guys back there in a lot of single coverage. Peprah and Burnett screwed up a couple of zone drops against the tight ends, but otherwise they were solid.

[RashanGary]

I think it al depends on his confidence in the man coverage of Shields and Williams, and whether the safeties can communicate. Given that both Shields and Williams appear to be back at full strength, and due to the fact that the Vikings don't have any wide receivers, I'm betting Capers felt pretty comfortable leaving those guys back there in a lot of single coverage. Peprah and Burnett screwed up a couple of zone drops against the tight ends, but otherwise they were solid.

Yeah. That seems to be it. . . . If those two safeties can get it cleaned up over the next 7 games. . . . .If Neal can take the next 8 or 9 weeks and get close to 100%. . . . We could be in position to dominate through the playoffs again. Improvement is probable; just how much. . . . That might tell the tale of this season.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I know this is off topic, but I'm really interested in seeing who matches up with Megatron. I have to imagine it'll be Tramon with safety help over the top on most plays. I doubt Woodson has the speed left to cover him effectively.

[RashanGary]

I could see a mix up between the two. Tramon a little more, but the way megatron plays, he's usually off the line so he can get a clean release. . . . The downside of a big guy is they're not as quick. If they're on the line, against a good man corner, they can get disrupted. Woodson is pretty special playing that off coverage. Better than Williams. With help over the top, he might be a good matchup for Megatron. Stafford will force it and Wood is the best in the buis at baiting a QB into a pick.

[gbgary]

I know this is off topic, but I'm really interested in seeing who matches up with Megatron. I have to imagine it'll be Tramon with safety help over the top on most plays. I doubt Woodson has the speed left to cover him effectively.

i was hoping it really was going to be off-topic but it wasn't. :)

chucks going to be busy doing just he did last night...wreaking havoc. dammit!

[mraynrand]

chucks going to be busy doing just he did last night...reeking havoc.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_nsfFCnwGVlc/TGVMVAGFH1I/AAAAAAAACIE/2_ruIfC2t4M/s640/fishkill.jpghttp://img.ehowcdn.com/article-page-main/ds-photo/getty/article/88/43/86803779_xs.jpg

[gbgary]

i knew i got that wrong.

[Deputy Nutz]

Charlies Woodson doesn't cover wide receivers, he covers the field. He will put himself in the right place against the Lions and he will get at least one pick off of Stafford.

[LEWCWA]

you got to gloating rights

thank you

[mraynrand]

Charlies Woodson doesn't cover wide receivers, he covers the field. He will put himself in the right place against the Lions and he will get at least one pick off of Stafford.


Johnson and Pettigrew present a more severe challenge for the secondary. If they can control those two, Woodson will have a big day. Was Pettigrew hurt? He did nothing against Denver - not that they needed him - and was invisible at Chicago.

[LEWCWA]

Like I said in another thread, I have spent the first half of the season following TX impact through TX and Ok every weekend and didn't get a chance to watch many games. Yes my loyalty's have been tested, but getting TX Impact's center fielder a scholorship to play ball in college has to take predidence right now! What I have taken away is that it seems the D was and is playing loose due to the fact they were scoring so many points. This league is designed to let offenses get yards and the fact that GB was giving them up didn't suprise me much. I looked at the SD game and thought, hell the D scored 2x in the first quarter the team had a huge lead most of the game, so the D kinda played loose. They give up the TD late no big deal, the big deal was the onside kick. Now it looks like a game. I feel the D will still come up big when it needs too and a big part of that will be CW. The dude is a special player! Hall of fame player no question. I think Capers got sick of hearing how shitty his D was and said fuck it we are going to bring the hammer against the rookie. Getting Tramon and Shields healthy doesn't hurt either. CW does what he does and he is the best in the business at it, even at 35....Fuck Polomalu, I'll take CW any day of the week!

[The Shadow]

Agreed!

[The Shadow]

Woodson has lost a step. yes. And there have been games where it seems he is only seen when dragging a receiver down after a catch (and this can seem pretty weird after the seasons when he seemed to come up with at least 2 or 3 game-changing-type plays per game).
But : he is still exactly the guy you want lurking in the secondary, despite the stretches of invisibility. In the big games to come, his innate instincts will pay off - sometimes when least expected. The quick slice into the backfield to cause a fumble (remember the Giant's game?), the tipping of a screen pass, the tripping up of a back attempting to reach the edge, the qb pressure on a blitz - or the timely interception - will matter during crunchtime.

and yes.

[pbmax]

[IMG]http://1.bp.bloy/article/88/43/86803779

Reeking haddock?

[mraynrand]

Reeking haddock?


you got it!

[pbmax]

you got it!

The reversed pictures threw me for a time :lol:

[gbgary]

you got it!

hell...i thought you were pointing out my misspelling of wreaking. you could have used a picture of michael haddix.

[mraynrand]

hell...i thought you were pointing out my misspelling of wreaking. you could have used a picture of michael haddix.


I was doing both. Oh the subtlety! Oh, THE HUMANITY! Using michael haddix would have been awesome.

[mraynrand]

Packerrats: Come for the football, stay for the pun!

[RashanGary]

Like I said in another thread, I have spent the first half of the season following TX impact through TX and Ok every weekend and didn't get a chance to watch many games. Yes my loyalty's have been tested, but getting TX Impact's center fielder a scholorship to play ball in college has to take predidence right now! What I have taken away is that it seems the D was and is playing loose due to the fact they were scoring so many points. This league is designed to let offenses get yards and the fact that GB was giving them up didn't suprise me much. I looked at the SD game and thought, hell the D scored 2x in the first quarter the team had a huge lead most of the game, so the D kinda played loose. They give up the TD late no big deal, the big deal was the onside kick. Now it looks like a game. I feel the D will still come up big when it needs too and a big part of that will be CW. The dude is a special player! Hall of fame player no question. I think Capers got sick of hearing how shitty his D was and said fuck it we are going to bring the hammer against the rookie. Getting Tramon and Shields healthy doesn't hurt either. CW does what he does and he is the best in the business at it, even at 35....Fuck Polomalu, I'll take CW any day of the week!

Yep. Woodson is friggin awesome.

[Upnorth]

2 years from now, who can replace him? They seemed to be grooming Collins for that role, with Burnett to replace Collins in his role. I dont see anyone on this team right now who can step into Woodsons shoes. Will it call for a change of scheme?

[Gunakor]

Ugh he dropped that sure pick-6.

When T-Will and Peprah took those picks to the house in San Diego it actually cost the team 7 in point differential. The defense gave up 7 more points than it had to and it was all Williams' and Peprah's fault.

Woodson is smarter than that. He recognizes that it's about the team, not his ego. Sure, one more pick six for Woodson ties an NFL record for defensive TD's, but it isn't about records or personal accolades. It's about making sure the Vikings only score 7 points rather than 10 or 14. He did it right.

Williams and Peprah can rot in hell for their selfish arrogance.

[Smidgeon]

2 years from now, who can replace him? They seemed to be grooming Collins for that role, with Burnett to replace Collins in his role. I dont see anyone on this team right now who can step into Woodsons shoes. Will it call for a change of scheme?

Someone previously mentioned on here that they think Morgan Burnett is the next best option.

[Upnorth]

That is my thoughts, however behind Burnett we have a glaring hole (39OBALOO). Is there any one on this roster that can fill Burnett's role when he fills Woodsons role?

[Gunakor]

That is my thoughts, however behind Burnett we have a glaring hole (39OBALOO). Is there any one on this roster that can fill Burnett's role when he fills Woodsons role?


Charlie Peprah, assuming Nick Collins will ever be All-Pro Nick Collins again.

[Pugger]

When T-Will and Peprah took those picks to the house in San Diego it actually cost the team 7 in point differential. The defense gave up 7 more points than it had to and it was all Williams' and Peprah's fault.

Woodson is smarter than that. He recognizes that it's about the team, not his ego. Sure, one more pick six for Woodson ties an NFL record for defensive TD's, but it isn't about records or personal accolades. It's about making sure the Vikings only score 7 points rather than 10 or 14. He did it right.

Williams and Peprah can rot in hell for their selfish arrogance.

:lol:

[sharpe1027]

That is my thoughts, however behind Burnett we have a glaring hole (39OBALOO). Is there any one on this roster that can fill Burnett's role when he fills Woodsons role?

TBD (to be drafted).

[gbgary]

Packerrats: Come for the football, stay for the pun!

:D

[jdrats]

Someone previously mentioned on here that they think Morgan Burnett is the next best option.

LOL-you can't really replace a guy like CW, and I actually expect he'll still be here in 2 years, playing with a similar type of latitude but in more of a hybrid safety kind of role with less cover duties.

However, were he for some reason not here in 2 years, and were Capers to try and find a single player to play the same kind of role, it could be any number of people. I wouldn't rule out Tramon if Shields keeps improving and if House is on year 2 as nickel by then. TW did have his first blitz in over month this week, and got home.

Most likely though Capers would use everybody's strengths and you'd see a combination of all the DBs filling in for various things that CW does now.

[LEWCWA]

Yep hall of fame players don't come around too often....you don't replace a guy like CW.