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Fritz
11-23-2011, 02:27 PM
Well, this is the year - or so 99% of the fans in Detroit think - that the Lions get a big, meaningful "W" on Thanksgiving Day. Many many talking heads have reminded folks that this is reminiscent of the 1962 Turkey Day game - the 10 - 0 Packers coming in to town - and in that game the Lions' defensive line, lead by Alex Karras, shredded the Packer offensive line, dumping Bart Starr over and over and leading the Leos to a whupping of the Pack.

The Lions feature a talented, deep defensive line. Ndamankong Suh is the big name, but Nick Fairley is rounding (or is that flattening?) into shape, and Kyle Vandenbosch, Corey Williams, Sammie Hill, Cliff Avril and Willie Young are all hard-charging linemen. The linebacking corps is much improved over recent years with the additions of Stephen Tulloch and Justin Durant. The secondary is lead by hard-hitting Louis Delmas at safety and Chris Houston at the corner. The Lions line up their defensive linemen especially wide, causing trouble for tackles who can't move quickly enough or overcompensate in moving outside to block, and the defensive tackles get great push up the middle. The unit has a reputation for being not only nasty but sometimes crossing the line. Nick Fairley recently threw Jay Cutler down and landed deliberately hard on his shoulder. Suh has been fined a few times as well. The fans, of course, think it's all very unfair while simultaneously praising their Lions' newfound dirtiness, likening them to the old Pistons' Bad Boys teams. The Lions' defense also forces turnovers; their turnover ration has been first in the league for most of the season.

Offensively, Mathew Stafford has remained upright and is getting better and better. He struggles at times with accuracy, particularly if he feels pressure or gets flushed. He's at his best in a shotgun formation, taking a two-step drop and getting into a rhythm. Stafford tends to start slow but pick up steam in the second quarter. Calvin Johnson is of course all-world - very big (6'-5"), very strong, and with great leaping ability and very good (though perhaps not great) hands. The rookie Titus Young has been very good, and Nate Burleson is a nice complementary receiver. Brandon Pettigrew and Tony Scheffler might cause lots of problems for the Pack - I'm sure OC Scott Linehan has watched San Diego's and Minnesota's, tight ends run past many a Packer linebacker.The Lions had no running game to speak of with Jahvid Best out until last Sunday when Kevin Smith ran over Carolina for 120 + yards. The offensive line is okay though not great. They're better as a unit than as individuals.

The special teams is the Lions' biggest weakness. Unlike previous years, when the special teams was the strength of the team, this year's Lions' special teams play has been poor. Stefan Logan is a threat, but the coverage units have been poor this year. The punting has been mediocre; I believe the old Aussie - Ben Chapman? - has been brought back for a game or two until their regular punter heals from a hammy pull. Jason Hanson is still reliable but does not have quite the leg strength he used to.

The crowd WILL be a factor. I was at the Monday night Lions/Bears game, and I have never been in a louder place in my life. If the Lions strike early, it will be deafening.

Look out. This will be one tough game, decided by, as is often the case in football, turnovers.

hoosier
11-23-2011, 03:04 PM
Turnovers will be decided by the LOS battles. If the Packers can keep those goons off of Rodgers the Packers will do fine holding onto the ball. If they can pressure Stafford they should get lots of turnovers their way.

mraynrand
11-23-2011, 03:06 PM
I'm sure OC Scott Linehan has watched San Diego's and Minnesota's, tight ends run past many a Packer linebacker.

Not to mention Carolina and Tampa Bay. Must be licking their chops at the opportunity to go after the useless TE cover ability of Hawk and Peprah - if the Packers even dare to try having Hawk cover anything - or Bishop forced into single coverage. I bet they even look forward to seeing Woodson in coverage on Pettigrew. At least two penalties to be mined there.

Fritz
11-23-2011, 05:28 PM
It's hard to say how good of a coach Schwartz is. He's got those players believing, and they play hard for him. After the years in the basement, I suppose that's no small feat. Gunther Cunningham is, like Dom Capers, an old defensive mastermind. Scott Linehan, the OC, is also an old hand.

vince
11-24-2011, 12:58 AM
Thanks for the report Fritz. Hopefully Rodgers is a possessed man today and makes up for last year's debacle in Detroit and blows the top off that defense. Likewise, the Packers defense turns up the heat and forces Stafford into some bad throws that he's prone to making at times.

HowardRoark
11-24-2011, 06:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM7LR46zrQU

mraynrand
11-24-2011, 09:29 AM
Wow, that song really takes me back to some old days - that I'd rather have forgotten forever. Thanks, Howie.

Fritz
11-24-2011, 10:13 AM
The Lions aren't pussies any more.

mraynrand
11-24-2011, 03:45 PM
I like that the Packers put Matthews in coverage on Pettigrew. That worked out well. And who knew that François can cover better than Hawk. Bon chance en Château du Lyon, François! Intercepción!

denverYooper
11-24-2011, 05:23 PM
I like that the Packers put Matthews in coverage on Pettigrew. That worked out well. And who knew that François can cover better than Hawk. Bon chance en Château du Lyon, François! Intercepción!

No kidding.

Apparently injuries are what makes our defense play better. New blood.

LP
11-25-2011, 01:34 PM
The Lions aren't pussies any more.

Oh yes they are. Really, really skanky ones too.

gbpackfan
11-25-2011, 05:27 PM
They are SUHper pussies!

Fritz
11-26-2011, 07:48 AM
Oh yes they are. Really, really skanky ones too.

I insist that they are not pussies any more. Move a little lower on the anatomy and you'll have your correct body-part comparison.

And they are an unwashed one at that.