Mike Sherman not good enough to be a college coach either

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Texas A&M fires football coach Mike Sherman

By KRISTIE RIEKEN, AP Sports Writer 4 hours, 51 minutes ago









Texas A&M (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/teams/ttj/) was supposed to return to national prominence this season.
Instead the Aggies finished the regular season with a disappointing 6-6 record that cost Mike Sherman his job.
Athletic director Bill Byrne announced Sherman’s firing in a statement Thursday night.
The Aggies, who are leaving the Big 12 for the SEC next season, must now find a replacement to lead the team into their highly competitive new league.





The school hasn’t named any candidates, but possible replacements could include Houston (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/teams/hhe/) coach Kevin Sumlin or Louisville (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/teams/llh/) coach Charlie Strong. Sumlin, who has led the seventh-ranked Cougars to a 12-0 record, was an assistant at A&M from 2001-02. Strong also spent time with the Aggies, working as a graduate assistant in 1985.
Sherman, 25-25 in four seasons at A&M, had three years remaining on his contract and the buyout will be about $5.8 million. He was given a one-year extension to his original contract in July, but it was never executed.
He was hired at the end of the 2007 season three days after Dennis Franchione resigned.
His best and only winning season came last year, when the Aggies won their last six regular-season games and lost in the Cotton Bowl to finish 9-4.
“I appreciate Coach Sherman’s selfless service to Texas A&M as our head football coach and his tireless efforts in building leaders of character,” Byrne said in the statement. “He is truly one of the great offensive minds in football, both collegiate and professional, and I know that he has much to offer the game of football in the future.”
Byrne said he will talk with the assistant coaches to decide who will serve as the interim coach for Texas A&M’s bowl game. He also hopes to meet with the team and remaining staff Friday.
Texas A&M President R. Bowen Loftin thanked Sherman for his contributions to the program and said he created a “solid foundation for Texas A&M to build upon in the future.”
“Decisions of this nature are never easy, and I appreciate the patience of Aggies everywhere as we carefully evaluated the current state of our football program and the prospects for the future,” Loftin said.
The Aggies entered this season with 18 returning starters, a top-10 ranking and were expected to contend for the Big 12 championship and be a factor in the national title hunt.
Instead they lost early games to Oklahoma State (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/teams/ood/) and Arkansas (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/teams/aan/) after holding double-digit halftime leads to fall to 2-2.
They won three in a row after their first skid, but a three-game losing streak, which included two overtime losses, ensured the Aggies of a mediocre season. The low point of the season came when Texas A&M ended its more than century-old rivalry with Texas (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/teams/tth/) with a 27-25 loss at home on Thanksgiving.
At times, Sherman seemed to be grasping for ways to deal the team’s narrow losses. Four of their six defeats were by a combined 10 points, including a 53-50 four-overtime loss to Kansas State (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/teams/kkb/).
“I’ve never experienced a season like this and I don’t plan on experiencing a season like it again,” Sherman said after the loss to Texas. “This was a very difficult season to swallow. We have good kids, they work hard, but for whatever reason the ball bounced funny for us sometimes, and we didn’t make the play when we need to make it to win the games we didn’t.”
Current and former players expressed their thanks and support for Sherman via Twitter as they learned the news on Thursday night.
“It’s unfortunate to see Coach Sherm go. He is like another father to me. He helped me become the person I am today. I will never forget, never,” tweeted Von Miller (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/players/162809/), the former A&M pass-rusher taken second overall in the year’s draft by the Denver Broncos (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/den/).
Texas A&M quarterback Ryan Tannehill (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/players/150837/) was disappointed to see Sherman leave.
“I consider myself fortunate to have had the opportunity to play for such a great coach and great man as Mike Sherman,” he said. “He helped us become not only better football players, but better men. … He will be missed.”
Sherman came to Texas A&M after spending two seasons a Houston Texans (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/hou/) assistant coach. A&M was his first college job since he worked as an assistant with the Aggies from 1995-96.
After leaving A&M he was an assistant for Green Bay and Seattle before becoming the Packers’ coach in 2000. Green Bay went 59-43 under Sherman and won three NFC North titles in six seasons, but he was fired after the Packers finished 4-12 in 2005.
The change gives the Aggies a chance for a fresh start when they move into the SEC next season. They end their time in the Big 12 after a decade filled mostly with disappointing finishes. The team had more than seven wins just twice since 2002.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Jeez, Sherman did great job bringing A&M back to prominance. This is shocking.

[pbmax]

He is a hard luck case. He is being hammered for winning the first half of games and then getting outcoached and out adjusted in the 2nd half. I have not seen them this year, any truth to the charges?

[gbgary]

yup...a bit of a shock.

[Pugger]

He is a hard luck case. He is being hammered for winning the first half of games and then getting outcoached and out adjusted in the 2nd half. I have not seen them this year, any truth to the charges?

That sounds vaguely familiar...

[Gunakor]

He is a hard luck case. He is being hammered for winning the first half of games and then getting outcoached and out adjusted in the 2nd half. I have not seen them this year, any truth to the charges?


I have not seen them this year either, but the charges sound awfully familiar.

[mraynrand]

After you coach a game like 4th and 26, your body continues living, but effectively, for all practical purposes, you're a dead man.

[ThunderDan]

Oh the threads that could be bumped if the damn search function worked like it use to!

[pbmax]

Oh the threads that could be bumped if the damn search function worked like it use to!

Just give Campbell some time. :)

[Fritz]

Mike Sherman - he is what we thought he is. A good guy and a good tight-ends coach.

[Kiwon]

Sherman had a good record in Green Bay. Of course, he also had Favre as well. But he was never up to the duel jobs of HC and GM. Naming him as his successor was the second of Ron Wolf's biggest mistakes, the first being hiring Ray Rhodes as HC. Not re-signing Craig Hentrich takes honorable mention, IMHO.

[mraynrand]

Sherman had a good record in Green Bay. Of course, he also had Favre as well. But he was never up to the duel jobs of HC and GM. Naming him as his successor was the second of Ron Wolf's biggest mistakes, the first being hiring Ray Rhodes as HC. Not re-signing Craig Hentrich takes honorable mention, IMHO.

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[CaptainD]

He is a hard luck case. He is being hammered for winning the first half of games and then getting outcoached and out adjusted in the 2nd half. I have not seen them this year, any truth to the charges?

Guilty as charged. Sherman was doing ok and then started taking over play calling the last couple years etc. A&M is moving to the SEC and needs a big name to energize the fan base.

[MadtownPacker]

Oh the threads that could be bumped if the damn search function worked like it use to!

The search function was fixed a while back. Maybe try it instead cryin like a little whiny bitch.

[Zool]

As I argued with time and time again on JSO, that guy rode the Favre-Green coattails. He was in way over his head with the 2 jobs.

[Joemailman]

I could see Sherman back in the NFL as an OC or OL coach. He's just not the guy you want making the crucial decisions when the game is on the line.

Or maybe he'll join the NFL Network and work with his buddy Warren Sapp.

[Jimx29]

Seems as though the whole team is behind them, and do not like the firing

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/40712/aggies-players-react-to-sherman-firing

[ND72]

John Michaels and Bret Conway were Ron Wolf picks, not Sherman...and Jamal Reynolds was Ron wolfs last draft.

[Kiwon]

John Michaels and Bret Conway were Ron Wolf picks, not Sherman...and Jamal Reynolds was Ron wolfs last draft.

Every team has draft busts. Sherman did okay as HC, boring as heck, but as evidenced by the A&M players' reactions, he was respected. And HE DID stand up to Sapp on his, to quote Shermy, "Chicken Shit" cheap shot block on Chad Clifton. Screw the media, Clifton's seriously hurt and Sherman stood up for his player, not at a podium, but on the field to the offending player.

I'll take boring, solid people like the Shermans over "Toe-Sucker" Sexy Rexy Ryan and his wife showing her mommy holes for the whole Internet to see. Yeah, really classy people.

That said, Sherman as GM and HC was too much for him and the team would have been better served if someone else had handled the GM position.

[ThunderDan]

The search function was fixed a while back. Maybe try it instead cryin like a little whiny bitch.

And instead of being an insecure MF why don't you grow a pair. The search function works nothing like it use to. If it did I would have already bumped a handful of Sherman gems.

[mraynrand]

John Michaels and Bret Conway were Ron Wolf picks, not Sherman...and Jamal Reynolds was Ron wolfs last draft.

? Yes, that's true. All three were very bad moves by Ron Wolf.

[mraynrand]

As I argued with time and time again on JSO, that guy rode the Favre-Green coattails. He was in way over his head with the 2 jobs.

That's why he hired a GM

[Iron Mike]

Not to ease up on Sleepy too much, but you wonder how much input Mark Hatley had on personnel decisions.....

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_RnB6zCpc18Y/TLyaeG1w7RI/AAAAAAAACXU/Fh_yJ21nJ-A/s400/mike_sherman_sleeping.jpg

[Upnorth]

Every team has draft busts. Sherman did okay as HC, boring as heck, but as evidenced by the A&M players' reactions, he was respected. And HE DID stand up to Sapp on his, to quote Shermy, "Chicken Shit" cheap shot block on Chad Clifton. Screw the media, Clifton's seriously hurt and Sherman stood up for his player, not at a podium, but on the field to the offending player.

I'll take boring, solid people like the Shermans over "Toe-Sucker" Sexy Rexy Ryan and his wife showing her mommy holes for the whole Internet to see. Yeah, really classy people.

That said, Sherman as GM and HC was too much for him and the team would have been better served if someone else had handled the GM position.

I respect a lot of people, but also recognize that there are two types of leadership. One is steady as she goes as we already are doing well, the other tweaks and demands more. In some cases the first is great and necessary but does not work in football. Sherman was handed a Corvette and drove it well, but made the mistake of putting in regular gas when refilling instead of premium. That is regarding his coaching.
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As a GM Sherman is like my 3 1/2 yr old boy in Toys R' Us. He saw something he thought he liked and had to have it, even if it makes no sense. His punter and CB's still give me nightmares. And now I am mad at you for making me thnk about them again. GRRRR

[KYPack]

Wolf and Bob Harlan have to cop some of the blame for Shermy as GM. Wolf wanted to stick it to Holmgren, so he gave the recco to Harlan for Sherm to be the GM. That was the worst move of Wolf's pro career and it stuck it to the Pack, for one man's vindictive move. There's more to it than just that, but the whole deal never should have happened.

There was no reason Sherman should have been a GM and boy, he wasn't a very good one. He was such a micormanager, there was now way he could have been successful. There were many low points for Sherm the GM, but one of 'em was when he banned the scouts from a draft meeting.

When Shermy had two punters on the roster bc he wasted a high pick on one of 'em, that was it for me. Harlan should have sprinted down to Sherm's office and made the change right then and there.

[ThunderDan]

When Shermy had two punters on the roster bc he wasted a high pick on one of 'em, that was it for me. Harlan should have sprinted down to Sherm's office and made the change right then and there.

He traded up to grab that punter which makes it even worse.

[Upnorth]

He was such a micormanager, there was now way he could have been successful. There were many low points for Sherm the GM, but one of 'em was when he banned the scouts from a draft meeting.

This is exactly why I mentioned the 3 1/2 yr old boy reference, he could not handle someone questioning his choices and he had to have them once he made up his mind.

[Pugger]

Seems as though the whole team is behind them, and do not like the firing

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/40712/aggies-players-react-to-sherman-firing

Just like #4 back in 2005...

[pbmax]

John Michaels and Bret Conway were Ron Wolf picks, not Sherman...and Jamal Reynolds was Ron wolfs last draft.

I think Rand was saying Wolf had a couple of other mistakes to choose from if you were going to rank them. Nominating Sherman to be dual GM-coach might not be #2.

[Bretsky]

Just give Campbell some time. :)


He has no time
On weekends he watches his multiple wives have orge's together !........living my dream

[pbmax]

He has no time
On weekends he watches his multiple wives have orge's together !........living my dream

If he is traditional, I am pretty sure its separate bedrooms. But perhaps he belongs to a Bretsky offshoot branch?

[Guiness]

Wolf and Bob Harlan have to cop some of the blame for Shermy as GM. Wolf wanted to stick it to Holmgren, so he gave the recco to Harlan for Sherm to be the GM. That was the worst move of Wolf's pro career and it stuck it to the Pack, for one man's vindictive move. There's more to it than just that, but the whole deal never should have happened.

There was no reason Sherman should have been a GM and boy, he wasn't a very good one. He was such a micormanager, there was now way he could have been successful. There were many low points for Sherm the GM, but one of 'em was when he banned the scouts from a draft meeting.

When Shermy had two punters on the roster bc he wasted a high pick on one of 'em, that was it for me. Harlan should have sprinted down to Sherm's office and made the change right then and there.

As far as decisions that harmed the team, long term, Sherman the GM was IMO the one.

I never understood why it was done. They didn't give it to Holmgren for a reason, then turned around and handed it to Sherman, who had a lot less experience, a couple of years later??? I guess vindictiveness could have been it. I hope not, but we've all witnessed what an ego combined with some spite can do.

The fallout was that two franchises suffered. Seattle had some up times, but mostly down with Holmgren at the helm, and Sherman wasted some years in which Favre could have dominated. I don't think it could be prevented, but I always thought that if Holmgren had stayed, we might have more hardware today.

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didn't sherman have a very fuckable daughter, or daughters?

he might not be completely worthless

[Kiwon]

he might not be completely worthless

Hardly. His buyout will be about $5.8 million.

[Pugger]

http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ycn-10495731#mwpphu-container

[pbmax]

Hardly. His buyout will be about $5.8 million.

There was a story on Day 2 that Sherman's new contract from last year was still being haggled over this season. It had gotten to the lawyers and only very recently landed on the desk of the athletic director or president and was unsigned. So while his buyout for one year was quite reasonable, it would have nearly doubled in the new contract.

There was another coach's contract story recently where he never got around to signing the contract before being asked to leave. I wonder how long is normal for contracts to be combed through before final signatures are applied.