OFFICIAL GREEN BAY PACKERS VS KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GAMEDAY THREAD

[pbmax]

Sherrod with false start. Tough one, audibles and Wells looked up to make a protection call.

[pbmax]

Bulaga....how bad?

Questionable to return

[pbmax]

Wasn't that a waste of a challenge. One foot in and one hip OOB.

[MadtownPacker]

Wasn't that a waste of a challenge. One foot in and one hip OOB.
Playing with house money so why not.

[RashanGary]

AR has not done a belt dance in a long time. These commercials are losing their luster. He needs to run one, just for entertainment value.

[RashanGary]

Missing Jennings? Awful game.

[pbmax]

Who was that throw to?

[mmmdk]

AR is awful today!

[Rutnstrut]

Can't really blame Finley on that one.

[smuggler]

Finley has not been the same player I remember.

[pbmax]

Woodson falls down.

[Rutnstrut]

Absolutely no pressure on Orton.

[pbmax]

Hole in zone.

[MadtownPacker]

Might as well get in the red zone so they can stop them.

[pbmax]

Walden held the edge pretty well there.

[smuggler]

Touchback??

[pbmax]

FG. Perfect.

[pbmax]

Watch fake.

[smuggler]

4th and goal from the 1? I might have tried to get it in there. Heads, I win. Tails, we keep playing.

[Rutnstrut]

Maybe the offense will decide to show up now.

[pbmax]

How about a return Cobb?

[Brandon494]

Nice stop, now time for this offense to do work. Do the Chiefs have Brandon Flowers on Jordy Nelson? Hes been shut out all game, offense seems to really be missing Jennings.

[pittstang5]

What is going on here. Trying to follow with phone....so whts the score

[pbmax]

Rodger's hand signals:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLZl6R7JGCc

[mmmdk]

GRANT

[pbmax]

Sherrod is gone. Hali took out his leg. Lang at RT and EDS at LG.

[Guiness]

Grant with a few catches today - nice for a guy not known for his hands.

[mmmdk]

Newhouse done for season. DAMN!

[pbmax]

What is going on here. Trying to follow with phone....so whts the score

12-7 Chiefs.

[pbmax]

Newhouse done for season. DAMN!

Sherrod. Newhouse was the one calling for the MDs.

[Bossman641]

Who gonna play rt?

[mmmdk]

Newhouse done for season. DAMN!

Not Newhouse?

[Guiness]

Questionable to return

I bet they trot him back out there now.

Sherrod goes down. Who's next on the depth chart? EDS at tackle???

[mmmdk]

Still sucks!

[pittstang5]

Sherrod is gone. Hali took out his leg. Lang at RT and EDS at LG.
Gone...as in done for good,

God this sucks not being ble to see or hear what is going on.

[mmmdk]

Total rubber leg. Get well soon Sherrod!

:pack:

[pbmax]

I thought Lang, but Moose thinks it Sitton that will slide out to RT.

[Guiness]

Newhouse done for season. DAMN!

Newhouse? You mean Sherrod, right?

[pittstang5]

So are both newhouse and sherrod out. Im confused

[pbmax]

Either Newhouse-Lang-Wells-EDS-Sitton

or Newhouse-EDS-Wells-Sitton-Lang

and I was right

[pbmax]

So are both newhouse and sherrod out. Im confused

Now Newhouse is fine. bulaga got hurt earlier.

[pbmax]

Cut back hard left Grnat!

[mmmdk]

LOSS

[pbmax]

What was the deal on that coverage? No one could stop and change direction?

EDS got smoked and Rodgers ate it.

[Guiness]

I thought Lang, but Moose thinks it Sitton that will slide out to RT.

I'm trying to see, what's the OL lineup out there?

Protection is bad. That 5 step drop was a bad play call, but I guess Grant got stuff on the play before that.

[pbmax]

Bulaga and Sherrod are out.

The lineup is Newhouse-EDS-Wells-Sitton-Lang

[Rutnstrut]

Another example of stubby not making adjustments to help the line, great coach when things go his way.

[pbmax]

I'm trying to see, what's the OL lineup out there?

Protection is bad. That 5 step drop was a bad play call, but I guess Grant got stuff on the play before that.

Moose was wrong, I was right :)

Of course, I am unpaid regardless of accuracy.

[smuggler]

Sherrod's leg exploded. Scrubs abusing our backups.

[pbmax]

Another example of stubby not making adjustments to help the line, great coach when things go his way.

Name the adjustment you make when your Guard gets smoked off the LOS on the snap? It was a pretty standard 6 man protection.

[mmmdk]

Easy to toy with this defense and the Chiefs offense is pretty bad.

[Rutnstrut]

Name the adjustment you make when your Guard gets smoked off the LOS on the snap? It was a pretty standard 6 man protection.

Play calling, it was a terrible play called for that point.

[Bretsky]

What Horsehit

This defense looks absolutely f'ckin lost

[Guiness]

KC moving the chains.

Pretty easy when you get 7 yards running on first down.

[mmmdk]

Tebow time?

[pbmax]

Play calling, it was a terrible play called for that point.

What would you have called?

[Bretsky]

How can you give a WR 12 yards when the ball is snapped ? Terrible; lost coverages....breakdown after breakdown

DAGGER

I'm calling game over.........here

[smuggler]

We desperately need some bodies on DL.

[Rutnstrut]

Easy to toy with this defense and the Chiefs offense is pretty bad.

This D has been terrible all year, I don't think Dom is the D guru all think he is. TT is also to blame, he is an idiot for going into the season with the D-line we have.

[pbmax]

Defense has just been hung out to dry today.

DJ Smith made a horrible read. He went outside with the pulling guard and was nowhere near the hole.

[MadtownPacker]

Pop the bubbly you old MFers!!

[mmmdk]

13-1 & bring on the Bears...thank goodness that Bears do not have a passrush...:wink:

[MadtownPacker]

This D has been terrible all year, I don't think Dom is the D guru all think he is.

This game is on the offense.

[pbmax]

This game is on the offense.

Yup.

[pbmax]

Rodgers has no idea what to read on this defense.

[pbmax]

Get out of bounds guys.

[pbmax]

Jordy? 3rd penalty

[Bretsky]

Jordy...............Illeagal Motion ? ouch

[Guiness]

wow, the Moose has lost a few lbs, eh? He looks good.

He's still dead wrong though; he said the Packers have not trailed in the 4th during those 19 games...um, last week?

[wpony]

it would be nice if we could catch a ball when it is close to them if i was arod i would be verry upset tonight

[Bossman641]

Christ what a hold on Matthews.


Another example of stubby not making adjustments to help the line, great coach when things go his way.

Wtf are you talking about? You can't help every ol.

[Rutnstrut]

This game is on the offense.

Except when the D has let the Chiefs march up and down the field.

[Brandon494]

Guess we can stop all the talk about Jordy being a #1 receiver

[pittstang5]

Well, can't see game.....first loss. Sucks big time. Oh well.

[Bretsky]

Hali, meet your Biatch

You won't find another Marshmellow blocking you after this game

[Freak Out]

There is still time.

[pbmax]

it would be nice if we could catch a ball when it is close to them if i was arod i would be verry upset tonight

ARod has some explaining to do as well. He has been scatter armed.

Finley!!

[pbmax]

Elevate Crabtree!

[pbmax]

TD!

And now a Crosby special!

[Joemailman]

We do have the best onside kicker I've seen.

[pbmax]

Nice 2 minute drill

[Rutnstrut]

ARod has some explaining to do as well. He has been scatter armed.


Finley!!



Yup, Rodgers has been very sloppy. Well compared to what we are used to anyway.

[pbmax]

Hali, meet your Biatch

You won't find another Marshmellow blocking you after this game

I think you are being slightly harsh. Newhouse has gotten toasted, but most of Hali's pressure has come while Rodgers has been waiting for someone to come open. Its not been a tire fire.

[MadtownPacker]

Where was this shit all game???

Does the D have a three and out in them? :lol:

[jmbarnes101]

Need an onside and another nice 2 minute drill

[Guiness]

Nice run by Rodgers.

And he behaves appropriately. No belt move when you're behind. Get off the field, there's business to take care of.

[wpony]

thats one way they wont drop it

[pbmax]

That was a bad call if its what he claimed.

[mmmdk]

Why onside kick with 3 timeouts?

[Brandon494]

come on defense!

[pbmax]

Why onside kick with 3 timeouts?

Have you seen the defense today?

[Guiness]

Why onside kick with 3 timeouts?

D has not had a stop outside of the red zone all day.

[jmbarnes101]

Why onside kick with 3 timeouts?

Do you trust this D to stop them? They've been moving up and down the field for 3 hours now.

[Guiness]

Have you seen the defense today?

ninja'd!

[pbmax]

D has not had a stop outside of the red zone all day.

Actually, just one.

[pbmax]

Wodson needs a play.

[jmbarnes101]

Just like that! This D has been crap all day long except for the Chiefs ineptness at the goal line.

[mmmdk]

come on defense!

What defense?

[pbmax]

Packerrat had a nice call. Perreria agrees it was a touchback.

[Bretsky]

there it is again
Tackle by AJ Hawk
Runner bounces forward for another two yards

[mmmdk]

Do you trust this D to stop them? They've been moving up and down the field for 3 hours now.

You're right, I wouldn't trust the D either.

[Brandon494]

Thats game

[jmbarnes101]

Strike that... our lines on both sides of the ball all game long have been pretty bad. You know they're going to run and throw mostly short passes and our LB's and DL haven't stepped up at all.

[pbmax]

What the hell is it with running wide right on defense?

[Brandon494]

Whatever we still the best

[Bretsky]

PATHETIC

Everybody knows it is going to be a run

We get blown up for two first downs in a row

[mmmdk]

Daniel Muir could actually start for the Packers!

[jmbarnes101]

We just lost to Kyle Orton and the offensively inept Kansas City Chiefs. I know it's only one game but we have issues on offense and defense right now.

[pbmax]

Daniel Muir could actually start for the Packers!

Running wide is not on the DL. That's on backers, safeties and CBs.

[pbmax]

We just lost to Kyle Orton and the offensively inept Kansas City Chiefs. I know it's only one game but we have issues on offense and defense right now.

Remember Paul Justin?

[Freak Out]

Wow....end of the whammy.

[pbmax]

That's right, Bretsky's whammy dies because he predicted if the Pack won, they were going undefeated!

[Freak Out]

Fuck Orton. :)

[pbmax]

Fuck Orton. :)

Never liked Purdue.

[Rutnstrut]

Packers were out played but especially out coached this game. I think the whole team expected the Chiefs to lay down for them. Typical for stubby, he doesn't prepare them for the "easy" games.

[MadtownPacker]

Wow....end of the whammy.

Never did like that sorry fuck Bretsky.

[Brandon494]

Packers were out played but especially out coached this game. I think the whole team expected the Chiefs to lay down for them. Typical for stubby, he doesn't prepare them for the "easy" games.

?

[jmbarnes101]

Remember Paul Justin?

Name sounds familiar but don't remember him at all... who was he?

[gbpackfan]

Our defense is beyond horrible. I don't see how we could win a playoff game with that D. Our offense better find their swagger again because with the injuries, we are starting to look like paper tigers.

[Joemailman]

Packers were out played but especially out coached this game. I think the whole team expected the Chiefs to lay down for them. Typical for stubby, he doesn't prepare them for the "easy" games.

It's been so long I'd forgotten how badly people come unhinged when the Packers lose.

[mmmdk]

Last season after week 15 I said Packers would win the SB (also due to my daughter helping me predict this) :lol:; after week 15 this season I say we lose to the Saints in the playoffs.

This loss had nothing to do with Jennings being injured. Injuries came early last season, this season late.

Lady fortuna has left us & our high octane offense can't function without an O-line plus some sort of help from our defense.

Still love my :pack: though

[jmbarnes101]

It's been so long I'd forgotten how badly people come unhinged when the Packers lose.

It's only one game and not yet time to panic but that was about as ugly as I've seen in a long time... well at least since Dolphins/Redskins last year. Drops and injuries on offense (Jennings and O-Line) combined with injuries and overall lack of stoutness on D were the major factors in us losing this game. Do need to give credit to the Chiefs who came out emotional and played a whale of a game.

[The Shadow]

In an odd way, I am in a way, pleased. The Packers needed a wakeup call; the perfect season mania just added pressure.
This flat performance could have shown up in a playoff game. Better now than then!
Now, McCarthy has a motivating tool to use as they near the playoffs : "See? This is what happens when we get overconfident."
The Packer's boiler room needed a bit of stoking - and this has to put some fire in their bellies. I'd love to see them come out against the Bears ready to show this performance was just a fluke.
Time to regain the eye of the tiger.

[mmmdk]

Running wide is not on the DL. That's on backers, safeties and CBs.

My Muir comment wasn't on just one play, that would be stupid, our D-line & O-line are busted.

[Guiness]

That's right, Bretsky's whammy dies because he predicted if the Pack won, they were going undefeated!


Bastard! Does he have a dog?

[Joemailman]

Last season after week 15 I said Packers would win the SB (also due to my daughter helping me predict this) :lol:; after week 15 this season I say we lose to the Saints in the playoffs.

This loss had nothing to do with Jennings being injured. Injuries came early last season, this season late.

Lady fortuna has left us & our high octane offense can't function without an O-line plus some sort of help from our defense.

Still love my :pack: though

I'm not so worried about the injuries. I don't think Bulaga's injury is serious. Clifton should be back. Jennings will be back. Starks will be back. Bishop should be back.

[Bretsky]

Bastard! Does he have a dog?


I felt like I was losing my edge and formally asked for a week off on my whammy job but you @ssholes said no :)
In summary, it's all your fault and had you given me the week off on the GD thread last week we'd have won this week and then went on to 19-0

[Bretsky]

That's right, Bretsky's whammy dies because he predicted if the Pack won, they were going undefeated!


To be honest, they were. We were not going to lose at home.
Now, if we get HF MM can actually rest some starters

[Joemailman]

Great run B. Who's starting the Game Day Thread next week?

[Upnorth]

So am I the only one who thought our d played well, the way its built too? My disappointment was no turnovers, but they minimized points. If our o would have gotten the lead like they should have we would have gotten our picks. Our d and st did well, our o was poor, especially oline prior to injuries. I think the early bs off pi calls on nelson threw them of a bit, but that might be an excuse.

[Rutnstrut]

It's been so long I'd forgotten how badly people come unhinged when the Packers lose.

Unhinged? Hardly, just beaing a realist and not drunk on the Kool-aid. With this D they will lose their first playoff game.

[sheepshead]

In an odd way, I am in a way, pleased. The Packers needed a wakeup call; the perfect season mania just added pressure.
This flat performance could have shown up in a playoff game. Better now than then!
Now, McCarthy has a motivating tool to use as they near the playoffs : "See? This is what happens when we get overconfident."
The Packer's boiler room needed a bit of stoking - and this has to put some fire in their bellies. I'd love to see them come out against the Bears ready to show this performance was just a fluke.
Time to regain the eye of the tiger.


Im in touch with some of this. I didnt like the perfect season discussions at all. If it happened, talk about it whens it over. We need to stay healthy. Period.

[Rutnstrut]

In an odd way, I am in a way, pleased. The Packers needed a wakeup call; the perfect season mania just added pressure.
This flat performance could have shown up in a playoff game. Better now than then!
Now, McCarthy has a motivating tool to use as they near the playoffs : "See? This is what happens when we get overconfident."
The Packer's boiler room needed a bit of stoking - and this has to put some fire in their bellies. I'd love to see them come out against the Bears ready to show this performance was just a fluke.
Time to regain the eye of the tiger.

I agree 100%

[mmmdk]

So am I the only one who thought our d played well, the way its built too? My disappointment was no turnovers, but they minimized points. If our o would have gotten the lead like they should have we would have gotten our picks. Our d and st did well, our o was poor, especially oline prior to injuries. I think the early bs off pi calls on nelson threw them of a bit, but that might be an excuse.

Defense didn't lose this game for us, that's for sure! But our D is a gambling Las Vegas defense that can't put pressure on QBs and are getting worse at stopping the run.

[mmmdk]

In an odd way, I am in a way, pleased. The Packers needed a wakeup call; the perfect season mania just added pressure.
This flat performance could have shown up in a playoff game. Better now than then!
Now, McCarthy has a motivating tool to use as they near the playoffs : "See? This is what happens when we get overconfident."
The Packer's boiler room needed a bit of stoking - and this has to put some fire in their bellies. I'd love to see them come out against the Bears ready to show this performance was just a fluke.
Time to regain the eye of the tiger.

Good point! You might be right there, Shadow.

[mr_blonde]

Well, I think the blueprint has been laid out on how to at least slow the Packers offense down.

Play nine or even ten in the box but only rush four or five and try to confuse Rodgers with coverages the best you can. Hopefully, you can get the Packers receivers to drop four, five or six passes and there you go .....
And when you are on offense .... DON'T TURN THE BALL OVER.

Offensively, Rodgers needs to get rid of the ball quicker. More short routes to soften up the defense, then hit them with the big play. Every offensive play doesn't have to consist of four verticals ....

That being said, the critical problem with this team is that the defense is an absolute mess. If they can't generate turnovers, they are pathetic. They are what they are and I don't believe Capers and the defensive assistants have any answers .... a better team today would have scored 30+ on the Packers D today.

Unfortunately, I think at some point in the playoffs the Packers offense will not be able to put up 35+ and the defense's ineptness will bring about the ultimate downfall of this team.

[Fosco33]

Nice run, B.

[gbpackfan]

How come the defense gets beat on the same plays time and time again? Screens, playaction, runs to the outside. No corrections, no awareness. And receiverst that are WIDE OPEN time and time again. Brees is going to shred this D. No, the sky is not falling. But we now know, more than ever, that if our offense is 100% on, we'll have no chance to hang with good teams.

[Fosco33]

I'm ok with a loss. Takes the pressure off significantly and clearly identified areas of improvement. Couldn't see it on tv - but KC secondary must've blanked our receivers as Arod held onto the ball many times on 3rd/4th options.

Don't know why in god's name M3 didn't challenge the touchback. I had the entire bar screaming for it...

Defense was pathetic. Did the Chiefs even punt? Sure - holding them under 20 and great red zone defense - but wow - made Orton look like he played for the Bears again.

Drops. Drops and more drops.

Arod sure gets frustrated with the drops. He then became less effective in accurate passes until the last drive.

I, for one, loved the onside attempt. Defense hadn't done much except on rush defense and thought it'd be the adrenalin shot needed. Others disagree. Showed me that M3 wanted it.

Have to give it to KC. They're D played their asses off. And Pack just played flat and had way to many mistakes.

Fuck it. We don't play away from Lambeau for awhile.

[Rutnstrut]

Rodgers looked like he did a few years ago, when he held on to the ball waaay to long.

[Iron Mike]

Rodgers looked like he did a few years ago, when he held on to the ball waaay to long.

Maybe he can have another heart-to-heart with them, and agree to release earlier, if they'll agree to stop sucking.

[Harlan Huckleby]

pass blocking was poor.

[Joemailman]

Maybe he can have another heart-to-heart with them, and agree to release earlier, if they'll agree to stop sucking.

I think it was Clifton who said, "Look. We need to play better, but you need to get rid of the ball quicker". Fire up the instant replay!

[TravisWilliams23]

The undefeated talk was fun while it lasted. Would have been a great accomplishment but in the end a Super Bowl trophy is what it's really all about.

This takes the pressure of McCarthy to not rest the starters during the last 2 games. Get as many players as healthy as possible and try to shore up the defensive screw ups as much as possible. They really need a healthy Cliffy back at LT. Bulaga is a must at RT. Jennings should be back by the 1st playoff game. Bishop back and healthy should improve the D.

While no loss is good, back in '62 Lombardi was kind of relieved when they lost to the Lions on turkey day. His comment to the press after the loss was "I think we will be a better football team for having lost this one," Lombardi said after the game. "That business about an undefeated season was a lot of bunk. Nobody in his right mind could have expected it." If a perfectionist like Lombardi had this kind of comment after the teams only loss, then I think McCarthy should instill this attitude to the '11 Pack.

[Bretsky]

Great run B. Who's starting the Game Day Thread next week?


Not sure; do I get some sort of pension plan via Packerrats for the One year run ? :)
Perhaps we should take nominations and have some sort of vote....

The person who steps up will get the advantage of four home games in a row I think so it looks to be a fairly easy job the rest of the year

[mission]

Lots of bad today but AJ Hawk sucks ... all those wide runs. He's so average to below average... I'm tired of "steady". Contrary to popular belief, he's NOT always in the right spot.

[pbmax]

Packers were out played but especially out coached this game. I think the whole team expected the Chiefs to lay down for them. Typical for stubby, he doesn't prepare them for the "easy" games.

How do you win 20 in a row and beat only playoff teams? Do we really need to spend time breaking down the illogic of this statement?

[pbmax]

Name sounds familiar but don't remember him at all... who was he?

Backup QB for the Colts, a travesty of a team that walloped the Packers in a shootout in 97. A game that by all rights, the Colts should have lost by 20.

[pbmax]

It's only one game and not yet time to panic but that was about as ugly as I've seen in a long time... well at least since Dolphins/Redskins last year. Drops and injuries on offense (Jennings and O-Line) combined with injuries and overall lack of stoutness on D were the major factors in us losing this game. Do need to give credit to the Chiefs who came out emotional and played a whale of a game.

Don't forget the Lions game at Detroit.

[pbmax]

I felt like I was losing my edge and formally asked for a week off on my whammy job but you @ssholes said no :)
In summary, it's all your fault and had you given me the week off on the GD thread last week we'd have won this week and then went on to 19-0

You mailed it in! Frontrunner!

:lol:

[pbmax]

So am I the only one who thought our d played well, the way its built too? My disappointment was no turnovers, but they minimized points. If our o would have gotten the lead like they should have we would have gotten our picks. Our d and st did well, our o was poor, especially oline prior to injuries. I think the early bs off pi calls on nelson threw them of a bit, but that might be an excuse.

I have few complaints about the Defense. At least, no new ones. The Chiefs fired their Head Coach and he served as his own offensive coordinator. So the Packers D faced a new QB and new gameplan with no film on it at all. It was bound to look ugly at times. That is not to say they are world beaters with film, but alot of the misalignment stuff would be gone.

The one weakness that showed through clearly was ILB. Smith was horrible at times in both run support and misdirection and he offered little in coverage. Hawk didn't help in coverage at all. There were open zones in coverage in the middle of the field all game.

The offense has far fewer excuses, though it gained more of them as they lost O lineman.

[pbmax]

Well, I think the blueprint has been laid out on how to at least slow the Packers offense down.

Play nine or even ten in the box but only rush four or five and try to confuse Rodgers with coverages the best you can. Hopefully, you can get the Packers receivers to drop four, five or six passes and there you go .....
And when you are on offense .... DON'T TURN THE BALL OVER.

Offensively, Rodgers needs to get rid of the ball quicker. More short routes to soften up the defense, then hit them with the big play. Every offensive play doesn't have to consist of four verticals ....

That being said, the critical problem with this team is that the defense is an absolute mess. If they can't generate turnovers, they are pathetic. They are what they are and I don't believe Capers and the defensive assistants have any answers .... a better team today would have scored 30+ on the Packers D today.

Unfortunately, I think at some point in the playoffs the Packers offense will not be able to put up 35+ and the defense's ineptness will bring about the ultimate downfall of this team.

I have not seen the replay, but most of the good coverage I saw was man on man. So the Packer receivers outside of Finley were not doing much against a team that does have a few guys who can cover. The secondary for the Chiefs is not terrible by any stretch. Most teams struggle to find that kind of coverage. Even the Giants didn't have it. Nelson couldn't get open deep and I assume that is because they could put a safety over the top on him. Should have left Jones open though.

Packer receivers (including the main offender Finley) had too many drops, but many of those were brutal targets. Rodgers was not accurate and he had a tough time finding a hole to through to.

This was a game the run game should have helped more, but the one time they went with 3 rushes, they ended up shy of a first by half a yard.

[Guiness]

I have not seen the replay, but most of the good coverage I saw was man on man. So the Packer receivers outside of Finley were not doing much against a team that does have a few guys who can cover. The secondary for the Chiefs is not terrible by any stretch. Most teams struggle to find that kind of coverage. Even the Giants didn't have it. Nelson couldn't get open deep and I assume that is because they could put a safety over the top on him. Should have left Jones open though.

Packer receivers (including the main offender Finley) had too many drops, but many of those were brutal targets. Rodgers was not accurate and he had a tough time finding a hole to through to.

This was a game the run game should have helped more, but the one time they went with 3 rushes, they ended up shy of a first by half a yard.

Agreed. Newhouse or not, there were times Rodgers was back there for a while, and couldn't see to find anyone downfield. Nelson suffered from drawing the top coverage with Jennings gone.

I thought KC had lost a pile of DB's to injury?

[pbmax]

Agreed. Newhouse or not, there were times Rodgers was back there for a while, and couldn't see to find anyone downfield. Nelson suffered from drawing the top coverage with Jennings gone.

I thought KC had lost a pile of DB's to injury?

Still had Flowers and one other decent corner. Might have lost nickel/dime guys.

[mission]

I have few complaints about the Defense. At least, no new ones. The Chiefs fired their Head Coach and he served as his own offensive coordinator. So the Packers D faced a new QB and new gameplan with no film on it at all. It was bound to look ugly at times. That is not to say they are world beaters with film, but alot of the misalignment stuff would be gone.

The one weakness that showed through clearly was ILB. Smith was horrible at times in both run support and misdirection and he offered little in coverage. Hawk didn't help in coverage at all. There were open zones in coverage in the middle of the field all game.

The offense has far fewer excuses, though it gained more of them as they lost O lineman.

Hmm.. I know I've been into DJ Smith so not trying to sound like a homer, but I thought he played pretty well again. Especially the run game. No one was home on screens and I suspect he was at least partially responsible there. Really thought AJ was lost the entire game outside of a play or two; that really hurt on plays that got bounced outside for good yardage.

Agree with the first paragraph 100%... had all the ingredients for an upset.

[gbgary]

http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/4ztau.bmfh5/v/vspfiles/photos/T96NFL111-2T.jpg?1316429007

[Pugger]

Our defense gave up 6 points in the first half. Had our offense showed up everyone would be lauding the defense instead of railing on them. I place the blame of this game at the feet our offense.

[Freak Out]

Did Crosby miss one FG or two?

[pbmax]

Did Crosby miss one FG or two?

He missed one FG twice.

[Bretsky]

Did Crosby miss one FG or two?

he missed a fifty nine yarder..pushed it right....and KC had a penalty...then he missed the fifty four yarder...about same as first one

[smuggler]

Yeah this game was lost in the trenches. The Chiefs owned the line of scrimmage. They didn't have to blitz to get pressure. If we didn't blitz, we had to pray a miracle to keep them from getting a completion, because our four guys weren't going to get a sniff of Orton. Not only is Rodgers back there running around with his head on a swivel, but the Chiefs were able to drop at least 7 guys in coverage on every play.

Maybe we could have snuck it out if we'd used the run properly. Grant was running well in this game.

It's clear that the Chiefs are just more talented on the lines, and in games like that, you are always going to suffer, even with better skill guys.

[mmmdk]

he missed a fifty nine yarder..pushed it right....and KC had a penalty...then he missed the fifty four yarder...about same as first one

No pro bowl for you! :lol:

[Pugger]

Yeah this game was lost in the trenches. The Chiefs owned the line of scrimmage. They didn't have to blitz to get pressure. If we didn't blitz, we had to pray a miracle to keep them from getting a completion, because our four guys weren't going to get a sniff of Orton. Not only is Rodgers back there running around with his head on a swivel, but the Chiefs were able to drop at least 7 guys in coverage on every play.

Maybe we could have snuck it out if we'd used the run properly. Grant was running well in this game.

It's clear that the Chiefs are just more talented on the lines, and in games like that, you are always going to suffer, even with better skill guys.

We missed Pickett more than we thought we would.

[smuggler]

I disagree. We missed a body on the line more than we thought we would. But the pass rush has been poor or worse almost all season long. Pickett might be more than a JAG but he's only slightly more.

[Rutnstrut]

Our defense gave up 6 points in the first half. Had our offense showed up everyone would be lauding the defense instead of railing on them. I place the blame of this game at the feet our offense.

Actually the fact that the Chiefs aren't very good on offense is what held them to 6 in the first half.

[denverYooper]

Actually the fact that the Chiefs aren't very good on offense is what held them to 6 in the first half.

Kyle Orton got run out of Denver because he was good between the 20s but terrible in the red zone. That and he had turnover problems. Too bad we only saw the first aspect of his game manifest itself yesterday.