OFFICIAL GREEN BAY PACKERS VS CHICAGO BEARS GAMEDAY SUPER-DUPER HOLIDAY EDITION THREAD

[mission]

Merry Christmas everyone!!

It's Sunday and Wisconsinites are loving the weather in the 30s today. My wife says it's freezing but we're still making the trip... she's actually yelling at me right now to get going but I'm telling her "priorities..." and this is just as important as anything else. No, we don't have tickets but she's hot and I'll send her to find some if needed!

Vegas had the point spread at -13.5 and the public is pounding the Bears to move the line down to -11.5 right now. -13.5 was one of the biggest -- if not THE biggest -- spreads in the rivalry's history. I had $20 in my 5dimes.com account and accidentally put it on the Bears in my haste 5 minutes ago! Reverse jinx since I never win anyway. Telling me there's not a lot of faith in a big Packer win today. Chicago radio pundits are predicting crazy blowout scores in the Packer favor however.

You know what they say -- they don't build those big palaces in the desert (Vegas) with the public winning and Vegas always knows better. A win today and the Packers clinch home field advantage throughout the playoffs and that's exactly what's going to happen. Take the Packers, lay the points and double up.

I expect to see more of a rushing focus from the team than we've seen all year. Both Saine and Starks are expected back in the fold and we'll do anything we can to keep Rodgers healthy.

I'll gladly lose my $20 (how the hell did I do that anyway?!) and call a 27-13 Packers victory. Superstitions be damned... Pack win easily and get to rest starters next week versus the Lyins.

GO PACK GO!! :cow:

[Tarlam!]

Well done, mission. Take us to the promised land!

[Freak Out]

Xtra presents today for Packer fans.

[CaptainKickass]

Obligatory game day post.

[Upnorth]

Great start for what is hopefully a run to the promised land! Now that presents and big meal are done it is time to clean, play and get ready for a late present!

[denverYooper]

I'm feeling good about this one... I don't think it'll be easy because it's the Bears but I'm feeling 20-10 Pack.

Bishop helps the pass rush, Cobb gets more looks, and the sight of the Bears jerseys triggers something in Finley's psyche that makes him remember he has good hands.

[Oscar]

Nicely done Mission. I'm thinking the Packers come out on fire tonight. 31-13 Pack all the way!

[Tarlam!]

Nicely done Mission. I'm thinking the Packers come out on fire tonight. 31-13 Pack all the way!

Patiently waiting for your 400th post Jeff! Hahaha

[ThunderDan]

Now that presents and big meal are done it is time to clean, play and get ready for a late present!

Just turning on the grill now for Christmas Dinner.

I think the Packers return to the 49ers west coast offense this week to get the ball out of ARod's hand quickly and to protect him from taking a beating. I also think this helps our offense and we put up 24 points in the first half. The Bears will have some luck at the end of the game when we are playing prevent.

Pack wins, 34-24.

[George Cumby]

Take us home, Mission.

Well done, enjoy the game. Looking forward to your first person impression of the game.

Merry Christmas, everyone!

[AtlPackFan]

I've had a lousy week...even for me. A victory of any descript would be nice.

[Fosco33]

Hangin in NYC with my sis/bro-in-law. Going to a bar soon - after drinking all day.

All I really want for Christmas is HFA.

Go Pack!

27-23

[Tarlam!]

I've had a lousy week...even for me. A victory of any descript would be nice.

Doin' that Avartar proud, my friend!!

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Stuffed with Christmas ham, sweet potatoes, pork and beans, cornbread....too full to even start on the pumpkin pie until kickoff. (What kind of beer goes with pumpkin pie?) Kids are happy with their gifts, wife is happy with her and all is right inmy little corner of the universe. I'm thinking a running back breaks 100 yards and Pack win going away, 31-10.

[denverYooper]

Packers inactives
WR Greg Jennings
DE Ryan Pickett
QB Graham Harrell
CB Davon House
LB Frank Zombo
RT Bryan Bulaga
LT Chad Clifton

Bears inactives
QB Jay Cutler
QB Nathan Enderle
T Levi Horn
RB Matt Forte
RB Marion Barber
TE Andre Smith
DT Anthony Adams

[gbgary]

come on Pack! i want this game over by halftime.

[Fosco33]

Without Pickett - our rush defense is pretty bad. Not enough lineman to really have fresh legs.

[King Friday]

I've been worried about some of the last few games...and rightfully so it seems as we had a few near misses before finally choking on the chicken bone.

As today as rolled along, I'm not feeling as worried about this one. The Packers like the bright lights of prime time, and the taste of a loss might be what this team needed after a year's worth of nothing but winning. The team seemed relieved to lose last week...and I'm guessing Rodgers and the offense come out focused in this one. I'm betting the dropped passes will be minimal tonight. I'm betting on a huge game from YOTTO. I'm betting on the Bears folding like a tent after they get down by 2 scores early in the 2nd quarter.

Pack 30, Barelies 17

[Packers4Glory]

in on page won

[Pugger]

Packers inactives
WR Greg Jennings
DE Ryan Pickett
QB Graham Harrell
CB Davon House
LB Frank Zombo
RT Bryan Bulaga
LT Chad Clifton

Bears inactives
QB Jay Cutler
QB Nathan Enderle
T Levi Horn
RB Matt Forte
RB Marion Barber
TE Andre Smith
DT Anthony Adams

Oh! I wondered if Hester would play. I guess he has a bum ankle.

I don't give a shinny what the score is just as long as we WIN.

[Packers4Glory]

this O-line needs to get healthy...very concerned tonight w/ Peppers coming off the edge. He could ruin this season on one play. Lets hope for a lot of quick hits and not a lot of deep drops or stand around and waiting...that won't work well tonight. hopefully we have a decent run game working.

[GrnBay007]

I miss having my computer in the same area where I can watch the game and follow the PR game thread. Go Pack......and Merry Christmas to all!! :)

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Okay, it's time for my last Christmas present of the day....kicking some Bear a$$!

[mmmdk]

Bear hunting!

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Sweet screen!

[mmmdk]

Getting quick reads by AR will help ailing OL.

[gbgary]

followed his blockers well.

[mmmdk]

JORDY!

[denverYooper]

Y-O-T-T-O!

Like the gameplan so far.

[mmmdk]

EASY BUT BEAUTY TD! :pack:

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Nice drive.

[gbgary]

fin!! very nice drive. just what the doctor ordered.

[pbmax]

Grant

Finley

Screens

YOTTO!

[gbgary]

i feel a chuck pick 6 coming...

[Guiness]

Two vry nice grabs by Finley, but a great play by Grant by the screen. Who threw that lead block for him? Sitton or Lang?

[pbmax]

New XMas gift HDTV working like a charm. Busy XMas Eve, great Christmas day. Family all over today, but all gone home now game in blissful peace.

Hope mission and the hot wife found tickets and are in the warm embrace of a Packers home crowd.

[pbmax]

Two vry nice grabs by Finley, but a great play by Grant by the screen. Who threw that lead block for him? Sitton or Lang?

Sitton got the first guy, EDS shoved Peppers I think to keep it going unmolested in the middle of that run.

Matthews nearly whiffed there.

[Tarlam!]

Rodgers, 8 for 8, 77 yards one TD no INT, current rating 146.35.

[pbmax]

C'mon Walden, got to fight through that guy.

Nice sniff out by Bishop. Nice to have ILBs back.

[pbmax]

How is that no OPI after last week?

[gbgary]

come on d.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Hey, defense! How's about playing some?

[Tarlam!]

That was OPI on Shields!

[mmmdk]

Wow! Illegal shift.

[gbgary]

cheering penalties.

[mmmdk]

Bears have a Bell-cow!

Ghould miss!! :shock: RARE!

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Sweet....no longer will good as Gould mean a thing!

[Tarlam!]

Cheering missed FGs more, Gary!

[Rutnstrut]

cheering penalties.

We have to, the D sure as hell isn't stopping anyone.

[pbmax]

Lang just got driven back on some kinda block.

[pbmax]

That was a catch.

[gbgary]

that's a catch

[pbmax]

Previous to Finley catch, Starks had nice run to get 4 almost on his own.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Finley....shouldnt be needing a challenge here.

[mmmdk]

2 drops Finley and now a bad challenge...you're not in Kansas City anymore, McCarthy! :lol:

[Tarlam!]

Not sure about this challenge

[Tarlam!]

That was a Kuhn down and distance. M3 getting too antsy.

[pbmax]

I no longer know what a catch is.

[gbgary]

terrible call

[Tarlam!]

That is SO fucked up! Terrible play calling!

[mmmdk]

Losing touch there, Stubby!

We'll still win though.

[pbmax]

That was blocked for a nice gain but Kuhn blocked wrong LB and Grant had no cutback where a hole existed.

[CaliforniaCheez]

Finley needs some stick'um on his gloves.

[pbmax]

2 drops Finley and now a bad challenge...you're not in Kansas City anymore, McCarthy! :lol:

I'll give hm that one. One, it was a catch. Two, his noggin got drilled into the turf.

[red]

eds and newhouse are worthless

you two fat asses can't block one little cb between the two of you on 3rd and 1?

its like the two of them just gave up cause the ball was being run to the other side

[Packers4Glory]

Finley is jedi mind fucking himself. He's turning into the Chuck Knoblauch of the NFL. He's got the yips.

[gbgary]

bad play call too. we never run well on third and short.

[pbmax]

That is SO fucked up! Terrible play calling!

Thought it was Kuhn territory? :)

[Tarlam!]

Well, I think after seeing him catch it, put his knee on the ground, the play should have been whistled dead. I agree, what is a catch?

[Tarlam!]

Thought it was Kuhn territory? :)

On 2nd down for sure.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Do we have a defensive line?

[Packers4Glory]

I don't think it was bad on 3rd and 1. if you can't pick those up you have no biz winning in January.

[pbmax]

bad play call too. we never run well on third and short.

Wrong, the Packers are have actually been quote good. This year, not as good as last year. But still reasonable.

But D needs to do something about this Bear blocking on run game.

[Guiness]

Sitton got the first guy, EDS shoved Peppers I think to keep it going unmolested in the middle of that run.

Matthews nearly whiffed there.

EDS' block is what I was talking about - OL really hauling ass downfield. Great job.

[mmmdk]

Imagine...say...Frank Gore running on this D!

[pbmax]

Oh no. Wood knee.

[red]

Well, I think after seeing him catch it, put his knee on the ground, the play should have been whistled dead. I agree, what is a catch?

you need to catch the ball with both hands, go to the ground and not let the ball ever touch the turf. then you need to get up, still with the ball, walk over to the ref, and shove the ball elbow deep up the refs ass with both hands

[Packers4Glory]

guess we are saving our injuries till the end of the season.

[Bretsky]

Hawk missing a couple more plays

[gbgary]

chuck better be ok

[mmmdk]

Oh no. Wood knee.

Didn't look bad though but who knows!

[Bretsky]

you need to catch the ball with both hands, go to the ground and not let the ball ever touch the turf. then you need to get up, still with the ball, walk over to the ref, and shove the ball elbow deep up the refs ass with both hands

good to see you back in the GM thread Red !

Where were u last week ?

You not showing up in here was the real reason we lost :)

[mmmdk]

guess we are saving our injuries till the end of the season.

How else to win a SB? :lol:

[denverYooper]

Finley is jedi mind fucking himself. He's turning into the Chuck Knoblauch of the NFL. He's got the yips.

This.

I thought M3s challenge was partly bc he thought the no-catch was BS, partly bc he's trying to support Fin.

[red]

Oh no. Wood knee.

our infinitely shitty D just got infinitely shittier

[denverYooper]

Imagine...say...Frank Gore running on this D!

With or without Pickett?

[red]

good to see you back in the GM thread Red !

Where were u last week ?

You not showing up in here was the real reason we lost :)

i was at work, all fucking game, with just a yahoo box score keeping me up to date

[Guiness]

That was OPI on Shields!

Absolutely! If was Nelson did last week deserved a call...

Shields got pushed back at the top of the route giving the WR separation.

[pbmax]

What the hell is it with Packer cleats and slipping this year? Grant just went down planting ...

[Tarlam!]

3 and outs are not very encouraging

[pbmax]

CJ Wilson with nice hit. Woodson is back.

[gbgary]

chuck is ok

[red]

3 and outs are not very encouraging

not completely dominating a team with no offense at all is a little worrisome too

[pbmax]

CJ Wilson now on fire.

[denverYooper]

Nice CJ.

[Packers4Glory]

i was at work, all fucking game, with just a yahoo box score keeping me up to date

I was at chucky cheese. being at work doesn't sound so bad does it...

[mmmdk]

With or without Pickett?

Pickett's not playing and if he were they'd be better...but then let's say Ray Rice in a SB? Then Pickett won't matter...Flacco would 'cos Chuck & co would eat him alive (3 picks). :lol:

[denverYooper]

CJ Wilson now on fire.

That reminded me of NBA Jams.

[pbmax]

You are a Bear O tackle faced with Hawk and Wood. Who to hit?

Wood.

Dammit. Nice pass and catch. No blitz got home.

[Packers4Glory]

McCown's ball seems to hang in the air for days.

[Bretsky]

3 and outs are not very encouraging


ditto
2 in a row now

[KalamazooPackerFan]

So tired of seeing Peprah trailing a reciever by 4 yards

[pbmax]

Why don't the Packers JUST LAND ON THE BALL!!

[gbgary]

come on d...that's roy fukin williams.

[red]

mc clown out muscles the ball from walden

nice

[pbmax]

OK, Walden off hook. He was in the air and going away from it maybe.

[denverYooper]

This D is terrible on 3rd and long.

[Bretsky]

more horshshit defense; pathetic

[red]

my god

i think i'm glad i missed the last two games

how has our D gotten worse then it was before?

[Rutnstrut]

This D is terrible on 3rd and long.

They aren't that great on any down.

[Packers4Glory]

this just isnt a super bowl D. getting shredded by 3rd and 4th team running backs and a HS football coach.

[mmmdk]

This D is terrible on 3rd and long.

That too!

[pbmax]

Someone forgot to keep an the RB.

Raji just got bulled and turned.

[pbmax]

Someone forgot to keep an the RB.

Raji just got bulled and turned.

And held.

[pbmax]

Matthews has no numbers but his is getting better and better all around.

[denverYooper]

Best coverage backer in the league.

[Tarlam!]

Mathews! I love him!!!!

[red]

clay mathews sighting

must be back on the HGH

[wpony]

CW shows up big time

[Bretsky]

great play by Clay

We're getting pushed around in the trenches

[gbgary]

thanks clay.

[mmmdk]

Without Clay this front 7 aren't worth sh!t.

Nice play, Clay! :pack:

[Packers4Glory]

I just hope that if we end up playing the Saints, that our offense is clicking and plays a perfect game. these guys struggle against some really weak offenses.

[Rutnstrut]

If it we didn't have Mathews and Woodson on this D, they would not have won 6 games this season.

[denverYooper]

Chuck and Clay with back to back plays.

[mmmdk]

great play by Clay

We're getting pushed around in the trenches

True but truth hurts!

[Tarlam!]

Need to score a TD on this drive Pack! C'mon now!

[Bretsky]

my god

i think i'm glad i missed the last two games

how has our D gotten worse then it was before?


Thank God for turovers

[red]

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

[Tarlam!]

3 and out.

[mmmdk]

Need to score a TD on this drive Pack! C'mon now!

I'll even take 3 points! Not happening - DAMN!

[pbmax]

Lee and Bush earning keep. Also 2012 MVP Tim Masthay.

[mmmdk]

Lee and Bush earning keep. Also 2012 MVP Tim Masthay.

TIMMY MVP - YEAH BABY

[pbmax]

If it we didn't have Mathews and Woodson on this D, they would not have won 6 games this season.

OK. Compile a list of NFL teams that when stripped of two best players on defense win more than 6 games.

BTW, Pack still win more than six because they could still outscore most.

[Tarlam!]

Rodgers is playing scared.

[Rutnstrut]

Like I said last week, Rodgers is regressing. He also plays too safe at times, and seems to be playing scared. But with this line I don't blame him for being scared.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Not ashamed to say it....I love the Muppets/Bowie-Queen mash up!

[Guiness]

Do we have a defensive line?

two down linemen, wilson n raji almost every down

[mmmdk]

Old man Driver wants a dome...in this heat? :lol:

[gbgary]

can we throw a slant?

[pbmax]

Who was sick on in lockerrom? O lineman for who?

[Packers4Glory]

best running backs ever

[pbmax]

Walden is getting worked on runs to his outside.

[red]

my god

[pbmax]

Green played too far left. He wasn't blocked that far.

[MadtownPacker]

Need to keep tabs on Driver son. Looks just like his pops. :lol:

[red]

Who was sick on in lockerrom? O lineman for who?

bears

[KalamazooPackerFan]

This is pathetic! It look slike we're just running to the blockers to slow dance with them!

[Packers4Glory]

at what point to load up on the run and make McCown beat you?

[Rutnstrut]

If anyone thinks this D will take this team to the SB, they are on crack.

[pbmax]

Like I said last week, Rodgers is regressing. He also plays too safe at times, and seems to be playing scared. But with this line I don't blame him for being scared.

Trolling? During a game day thread? Regressing = playing scared = worried about patchwork O line?

[Bretsky]

OK. Compile a list of NFL teams that when stripped of two best players on defense win more than 6 games.

BTW, Pack still win more than six because they could still outscore most.


statistically in terms of point differential, yardage differential, and first down difference........GB was BY FAR the worst 12-0 team at that point.
Two weeks ago on the NFL Network a coach was asked how you beat the Packers.

"No Turnovers" was what he answered to be by far the most important thing

[mmmdk]

Rodgers is playing scared.

Not what McCarthy preaches...but i gotta defend AR a bit; it's his head & this Packer OL might be worst in the NFL. Until some injuries are mended then below average at very, very best.

[red]

two fucking guys on D that actually look like they want to be there

[red]

LOL

anyone else see hawk tell McCLown to fuck himself?

[Rutnstrut]

Hawk made a tackle, holy shit.

[pbmax]

bears

Thanks.

[Bretsky]

If anyone thinks this D will take this team to the SB, they are on crack.


The Offense might though

[KalamazooPackerFan]

LOL

anyone else see hawk tell McCLown to fuck himself?

Missed it. Which play? Might need to find a way to clip that and send it to my Bear fan freinds!

[red]

The Offense might though

maybe not with home field advantage in the january cold with no running game and a d that can't stop the run

[pbmax]

statistically in terms of point differential, yardage differential, and first down difference........GB was BY FAR the worst 12-0 team at that point.
Two weeks ago on the NFL Network a coach was asked how you beat the Packers.

"No Turnovers" was what he answered to be by far the most important thing

No turnovers is also the answer when there is no answer. I am not convinced that is more of a trait of the Packers D than a lot of teams. Also not concerned about the other 12-0 teams. More 10-2 teams win the Super Bowl as well.

[Rutnstrut]

Trolling? During a game day thread? Regressing = playing scared = worried about patchwork O line?

I love how being a realist and not always looking through green and gold colored glasses makes one a troll.

[mmmdk]

The Offense might though

Clutching at straws or do you really believe so with this OL? Just asking!

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Have I mentioned that this is my first game as a full fledged Packer's owner? Two shares up on the wall!

[red]

Missed it. Which play? Might need to find a way to clip that and send it to my Bear fan freinds!

the one play hawk made. he drilled the RB, then got up and looked at Mcdown and shouted fuck you

[mmmdk]

Have I mentioned that this is my first game as a full fledged Packer's owner? Two shares up on the wall!

Hey, congrats!

[Rutnstrut]

maybe not with home field advantage in the january cold with no running game and a d that can't stop the run

Careful speaking the truth, you might be a troll;)

[gbgary]

the o has to get going.

[pbmax]

I love how being a realist and not always looking through green and gold colored glasses makes one a troll.

Your observation of playing scared looks more like a reaction to coverage and Jennings absence than any mind reading revelations you have made.

Do you have any evidence other than the charge?

[pbmax]

Careful speaking the truth, you might be a troll;)

Red is a troll. But he is a lovable one.

[MJZiggy]

I love how being a realist and not always looking through green and gold colored glasses makes one a troll.

A true realist would understand that by the time we start the playoffs, key players will return from injury. Not just assume that our 13-1 team isn't good enough.

[Cheesehead Craig]

How was there no comments about how Rodgers was regressing during the first TD drive?

[Freak Out]

Pretty ugly so far boys and girls....both the O and D better step it up. Eye of the tiger baby. :)

[mmmdk]

Can crazy Cobb win us a playoff game? I think so, or rather, that's how little faith I have in our D & OL.

[pbmax]

That was a bad pass pro by Lang.

[Rutnstrut]

Your observation of playing scared looks more like a reaction to coverage and Jennings absence than any mind reading revelations you have made.

Do you have any evidence other than the charge?

He is jumpy, but like I said with this line most would be.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Nice run by jones

[mmmdk]

AR & JJ with a play plus good protection.

[Tarlam!]

i gotta defend AR a bit

Finally a 1st down!

Passer rating after 4 possessions still 135 and some change

[Freak Out]

JJ....we need more JJ.

[pbmax]

Fin could have got that with two hands I think.

[mmmdk]

Wow, AR rarely missed any of those passes earlier in the season.

[Tarlam!]

Oh, I am roasting some chestnuts. Anyone want some?

[pbmax]

He is jumpy, but like I said with this line most would be.

There are a lot of people at his feet.

[pbmax]

Oh, I am roasting some chestnuts. Anyone want some?

Yes.

[Freak Out]

Man....Peppers is almost unblocked by Newhouse....every play. :)

[mmmdk]

Finally a 1st down!

Passer rating after 4 possessions still 135 and some change

Yeah, he ain't bad :wink:

[Cheesehead Craig]

Fin could have got that with two hands I think.

I Disagree. That was just a bit too far to get. If Finley can't catch that by jumping, nobody's gonna.

[pbmax]

Donald getting small.

[mmmdk]

Man....Peppers is almost unblocked by Newhouse....every play. :)

That might just be the success criteria! :lol:

[mmmdk]

I Disagree. That was just a bit too far to get. If Finley can't catch that by jumping, nobody's gonna.

I agree!

[pbmax]

That ref did not react to Urlacher calling TO until the safety called it?

[Cheesehead Craig]

What the hell does Urlacher have to do to get a TO? He had to call it about 3 times for the Ump to do anything.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Who called for more JJ?

[Freak Out]

JJ time.

[mmmdk]

JJ now a BEAR HUNTER!

[Tarlam!]

Thanks JJ!

[pbmax]

Jones with TD and a Jones move. Which people mistakenly call the Tebow.

[Freak Out]

Who called for more JJ?

Me.

[Rutnstrut]

So since the hurry up has worked well the last two weeks does anyone else think the flatness of the O might be Stubby's timid play calling?

[mmmdk]

Who called for more JJ?

Tebow?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Squib this fucking Kickoff.

[Freak Out]

:)

[pbmax]

Great pickup on Rodgers moving Jones wider on play. Collingsworth is worth a listen.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Great pickup on Rodgers moving Jones wider on play. Collingsworth is worth a listen.

He does have the face for radio.

[red]

Red is a troll. But he is a lovable one.

queer

[pbmax]

So since the hurry up has worked well the last two weeks does anyone else think the flatness of the O might be Stubby's timid play calling?

He gave Rodgers the ability to go run/pass and full audible last year versus the Cowboys. I am not sure that the no huddle features less Coach calls than normal. But good question for Rodgers radio show.

[denverYooper]

A little breathing room.

Maybe they're learning to deal with that growing speed bump.

D is still a worry but if O can function without 4 regular pieces, they should be ok in playoffs.

Toddler just dumped finger paint soap on the carpet.

[pbmax]

queer

Children around for reply. So FU to you too Red. :)

Merry F'ing Christmas :lol:

[gbgary]

no pass rush is one thing but they've got to fix that run d.

[red]

Children around for reply. So FU to you too Red. :)

Merry F'ing Christmas :lol:

lol

[pbmax]

no pass rush is one thing but they've got to fix that run d.

Pickett with his bell unrung will help. Its his second concussion this year so its taking longer.

[Bretsky]

Clutching at straws or do you really believe so with this OL? Just asking!


When Clifton replaces the Marshmellow that will be a huge upgrade.
Get the OL healthy; I do believe we can win it all

[red]

no pass rush is one thing but they've got to fix that run d.

man, we've been pretty horrible all year against the run

why is that? we haven't lost much. jenkins wasn't the key to our Run D

its gotta either be Nick being out, or scheme. if it was scheme, you think we would have gotten it fixed by now

nick collins might be proving to be our most valuable player on D. lets hope he can return someday

[Guiness]

Oh, I am roasting some chestnuts. Anyone want some?

had some last night, done in a cast iron pan with salt n butter - mmmm

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Stuffed with Christmas ham, sweet potatoes, pork and beans, cornbread....too full to even start on the pumpkin pie until kickoff. (What kind of beer goes with pumpkin pie?) Kids are happy with their gifts, wife is happy with her and all is right inmy little corner of the universe. I'm thinking a running back breaks 100 yards and Pack win going away, 31-10.

Hmmm, can I take back that prediction about a back getting 100 yards? I'll stand by my score call.

[Bretsky]

Man....Peppers is almost unblocked by Newhouse....every play. :)


Lately the challenge seems to be finding someone who is blockable by Newhouse

[Freak Out]

Yep....if/when Clifton, Pickett, Jennings etc get back this team will be back to it's SB form......well...close. :)

[pbmax]

Best XMas gift? Possibly wireless headphones. Plugged into TV audio, you can hit the john and still hear the TV broadcast while relaxing. :)

[pbmax]

man, we've been pretty horrible all year against the run

why is that? we haven't lost much. jenkins wasn't the key to our Run D

its gotta either be Nick being out, or scheme. if it was scheme, you think we would have gotten it fixed by now

nick collins might be proving to be our most valuable player on D. lets hope he can return someday

Zombo versus Walden?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Can we get Mike Tice to come coach our OL?

[pbmax]

I am not going to make a comment about the special teams reasonableness so far.

[Bretsky]

Zombo versus Walden?


you think Zombo is any better than Walden ?

I think it's partly because we've just lost one good body on the DL. They had a nice rotation last year. They have one more J.A.G. on that DL, Hawk is not playing at the level he was last year, and Charles Wooson is unable to do nearly as many run blitzes because with the loss of Colllins their secondary needs him back there more

[mmmdk]

I'll give Bell-cow some credit; he's way better than Barber III.

[pbmax]

Now that was on the ILBs. Where the hell wee they on a pulling guard off tackle?

[Bretsky]

AJ Hawk rarely makes a play anymore unless he's untouched

[pbmax]

you think Zombo is any better than Walden ?

I think it's partly because we've just lost one good body on the DL. They had a nice rotation last year. They have one more J.A.G. on that DL, Hawk is not playing at the level he was last year, and Charles Wooson is unable to do nearly as many run blitzes because with the loss of Colllins their secondary needs him back there more

Run defense? Maybe. Perhaps was last year.

[Packers4Glory]

LOL

anyone else see hawk tell McCLown to fuck himself?

I saw him say it. Trying to think why he'd tell that to McCown tho.

[pbmax]

CJ Wilson is playing like a man tonight.

[pbmax]

Blitz didn't get home.

[pbmax]

Was Jones at ROLB?

[mmmdk]

Bad D , bad D!

[Bretsky]

And there is a pefect example of why Dom may be better than playing prevent instead of blitzing

[Freak Out]

This is not funny.

[Packers4Glory]

unreal.

[Tarlam!]

OMG. I hope my chestnuts taste good. the Packers D has left me with a horrible taste in my mouth!

[red]

i'd also like to add that not only is hawk not playing up to the same level of last year

neither is bishop

and that idiot

WTF is with tramon this year? he doesn't even look good enough to be an average cb

[Freak Out]

1st and goal at the 1 and the Bears call timeout. Lol.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Doe sit look like every one is more interested in slapping the ball out than tackling! Alot of arms swinging as out guys run right by the ball carrier.

[pbmax]

And there is a pefect example of why Dom may be better than playing prevent instead of blitzing

Not sure about that. Prevent plays into ALL the worst traits of the D. I would rather leak a big play and have a chance at a TO than just bleed down the field.

[gbgary]

stop blitzing. it's doing no good. play run first and play tight man to man.

[Packers4Glory]

i'd also like to add that not only is hawk not playing up to the same level of last year

neither is bishop

and that idiot

WTF is with tramon this year? he doesn't even look good enough to be an average cb don't you know? Tramon is better than Revis

[Guiness]

Best XMas gift? Possibly wireless headphones. Plugged into TV audio, you can hit the john and still hear the TV broadcast while relaxing. :)

CCWOMNF!

(that's Choke Cherry Wine Out My Nose Funny!)

[pbmax]

1st and goal at the 1 and the Bears call timeout. Lol.

:lol:

[red]

grab the fucking ball

[mmmdk]

F@ck

[pbmax]

i'd also like to add that not only is hawk not playing up to the same level of last year

neither is bishop

and that idiot

WTF is with tramon this year? he doesn't even look good enough to be an average cb

Barnett? :)

[Freak Out]

The Japs are battling for pickup supremacy on SNF.

[Rutnstrut]

Doe sit look like every one is more interested in slapping the ball out than tackling! Alot of arms swinging as out guys run right by the ball carrier.

YES, I thought maybe I was the only one seeing that.

[pbmax]

Romo looks like I feel watching this D.