OFFICIAL Game Day Rose Bowl Thread....Da Badgers vs. Da Ducks

[Bretsky]

Pulling out all stops in 2012, I can say this is one of the most disappointing UW Badgers teams in a while.
This is due to one thing; Great Expectations.

For the first time in my lifetime, the Badgers have what could be considered a Franchise College QB, and we only have him for a year.

Poised for an undefeated season and a shot at a national champion and with all the chips aligned, the Badgers were badly outcoached against an inferior Michigan State Team and then played about as poorly as they could against a marginal Ohio State Team.

Yup....we bounced back...........here we are ...National Title Aspirations gone and another Rose Bowl.

Call us spoiled.....it might be true.

To compete with Oregon, we need mistake free coaching, no turnovers, and some effective Red Zone Defense.

Expect a boatload of Yards on both sides today. Monte my favorite draft pick 2012...for the Packers......Ball breaks the all time touchdown record on a single season.

Russell.......the best QB we'll ever see in the Cardinal and Red...Wilson...will throw for another two to three TD's. The Badgers put up at least 35 points on the Ducks.

Unfortunately, our defense is going to get ripped apart today. The undiscipline on this side of the ball is going to ring true today. We're not stopping Oregon...........they put up at least 40Pts on the Badger

TAKE IT TO THE BANK

Oregon 48
Badgers 34

Let the Power of the Whammy be born in College Football Today !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MJZiggy]

I don't have ESPN. Link?

[HowardRoark]

That looked easy.

[HowardRoark]

I don't have ESPN. Link?

Geez. doing your laundry with the great unwashed now no ESPN?

[Bretsky]

The Badgers Jordy jr got a TD already.

Ducks are realy trying to key on Monte Ball so far and that let Russell Wilson walk in for TD number two

[Bretsky]

The Badgers just forced one more punt than I expected them to this half

[Bretsky]

Wonder if Oregon Packer Fan is at this game ? My gut tells me he is

[Bretsky]

ahhhhh..........we're trying to bury them too early

Run Monte and let that set you up !!!!!!!!!!

[Bretsky]

shoot........third and seventeen

[Bretsky]

make that third and twenty two.........dummmies !

[Bretsky]

those helmets are awesome !!! If they were lined up against a bikini girl you'd get a great site via the helmet

[Bretsky]

Monte I'd look great in Green n Gold Ball is running over the Duckies

[Upnorth]

So where does ball get drafted?

[HowardRoark]

Holy shit was that guy fast.

[Bretsky]

So where does ball get drafted?


I think he's first round talent but my gut says he goes in middle of round two to middle of round three

[Bretsky]

Dear BB

Your defense stinks
Your Offense is great

When faced with fourth and three again at the Ducks forty....please go for it. The Ducks will score either way....the short or long field does not matter

[Bretsky]

Oregon seems HellBent to not let Monte Ball score on the run. They are packing everybody in and focusing on him

[Bretsky]

FUNNY SHIT

FIVE SECONDS LATER

TOUCHOWN MONTE BALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[easy cheesy]

YAY!!!!! TOUCHDOWN!!! I hope this stays a good game. I'm surrounded by Duck fans, including my own cat that's a duck named Jaques. It's tough out here. :)

[Bretsky]

21 14

and we've hardly cracked the start of the second qtr.

The over was the ez bet this game...regardless of what the number is

[Bretsky]

YAY!!!!! TOUCHDOWN!!! I hope this stays a good game. I'm surrounded by Duck fans, including my own cat that's a duck named Jaques. It's tough out here. :)

Unless one team turns the ball over multiple times my gut says it should be
Neither team can stop the other offense

[Bretsky]

kickoff return to midfield

Should be tied up within six plays

[Bretsky]

kickoff return to midfield

Should be tied up within six plays



OK..............SCRATCH THAT

SCORE TIED AFTER ONE PLAY

[easy cheesy]

HOLY GUACAMOLE BATMAN!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Just like that? ***sigh***

[Bretsky]

Total Pts greater than 100

[HowardRoark]

Dear BB

Your defense stinks
Your Offense is great

When faced with fourth and three again at the Ducks forty....please go for it. The Ducks will score either way....the short or long field does not matter

Agree. I was surprised by that one too.

[Bretsky]

Agree. I was surprised by that one too.

In Duck Territory there is no reason to punt

[Bretsky]

Time to pound the Monte

[HowardRoark]

At least our defense won't be tired at the end of the game.

[easy cheesy]

At least our defense won't be tired at the end of the game.


:)

[Bretsky]

another ball to the Badgers Jordy Nelson

[Bretsky]

if our defense plays thirty plays we'll give up fifty six pts

[Bretsky]

Time to pound the Monte


Would have been a fan

[Bretsky]

We need to go in to halftime tied at least

Oregon gets the ball first, which means we give them seven pts on that drive

[Bretsky]

catch the INT you dummmies

Bunch of Estus Hood..ies

[easy cheesy]

We need to go in to halftime tied at least

Oregon gets the ball first, which means we give them seven pts on that drive

Roger that!

[Bretsky]

we have another third down

[easy cheesy]

Good Lord have mercy! I'm gettin' the vapors over here! TOUCHDOWN!

[Bretsky]

that is a dam fumble.............NO WAY does that get overturned.

[Bretsky]

Yes, a call must be absolutely conclusive for a call to be overturned................sincerely............any body who watched the first MSU game

[gbgary]

big play there. correct call. like the duck helmets.

[Bretsky]

Love the helmets

[Bretsky]

why did that ball come out ?

[Bretsky]

I think that is a TD

[easy cheesy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmW-ScmGRMA :) Yeah, those helmets are something else... especially when the sun hits them at just the right angle when they are flying over the goal line...

[Bretsky]

I think I was a TD short on my predication

Looking like fifty six to forty two

[Bretsky]

THAT WAS BULLSHIT

[Bretsky]

they restarted the clock AFTER the ref clearly motioned the clock should be stopped

complete bullshit

[Bretsky]

Peckerheaded zebras

[Bretsky]

Erin Andrews interviewing BB
anybody notice how that left hand is hiding his left hand

he's grabbing her ass

lucky guy

[MJZiggy]

Geez. doing your laundry with the great unwashed now no ESPN?
I got rid of cable at the end of last season. Haven't missed it much. Turns out ESPN.com has the game on. And I'm only at the laundromat because I had work done in the basement and they put in new concrete that has to cure before I can put a new sink in and put the washer and dryer back in.

[MJZiggy]

Wonder if Oregon Packer Fan is at this game ? My gut tells me he is He's probably sitting next to Fosco and neither of them realizes...

[Bretsky]

OK, time to get ready for the second half.

My blood pressure from that bullshit zebra call is down to two hundred over one seventy five

Let's Roll

[Bretsky]

Twenty Nine plays......Twenty Eight Points

Will Oregon get to Sixty Plays today ? Hmmm

[Bretsky]

Has anybody mentioned how hot Erin Andrews is ?

[easy cheesy]

Brent Musburger looks like a little old world weary turtle. When did that happen?

[easy cheesy]

You've got to be fuckin' kidding me.....

[HowardRoark]

Has anybody mentioned how hot Erin Andrews is ?

and in person she is 10 times hotter.

this is unbelievable

[Bretsky]

GREAT JOB DEFENSE

You made the Ducks take like THREE GOSH DAM PLAYS TO SCORE A TOUCHDOWN THIS DRIVE

PUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

[easy cheesy]

This is going to be a looooooooooong second half.....

[Bretsky]

and in person she is 10 times hotter.

this is unbelievable




yupper............and she looked pretty good in the video as well

[mission]

on top of having over 72 for the game, i managed to snatch o41 second half. dont think anyone is gonna stop anyone.

[pbmax]

Need to replace Walden at ROLB for the Badgers

[Bretsky]

on top of having over 72 for the game, i managed to snatch o41 second half. dont think anyone is gonna stop anyone.

72 was the OVER; that is EZ money

[mission]

72 was the OVER; that is EZ money

easiest of the day... if oklahoma st covers tonight ill hit a $30 4 team parlay for 12:1 $! parlay would just be a bonus.. rarely win them since they're a suckers bet.

[pbmax]

OK, time to get ready for the second half.

My blood pressure from that bullshit zebra call is down to two hundred over one seventy five

Let's Roll

I think that was the correct call. I am not sure WHY that is the correct call, but that seems to be the rule according to every other screaming badger online source.

[MJZiggy]

Ow. Shiny helmet to private parts. Ow.

[Bretsky]

Need to replace Walden at ROLB for the Badgers


There is no tackle that cannot be missed today

[Bretsky]

WHY do you call timeout on first and ten from the fifteen //

[pbmax]

Big hole missed when he slipped. Oy!

[Bretsky]

dam...that slip really hurts

[Bretsky]

Big hole missed when he slipped. Oy!

that could have been the record

[pbmax]

Field Goal. You have to be kidding me.

[Bretsky]

FG's wll not work this game

[Bretsky]

still pissed they didn't go for it on fourth and three in quarter one

[easy cheesy]

Field Goal. You have to be kidding me.

Right? ***sigh***

[HowardRoark]

Peckerheaded zebras

[easy cheesy]

JHC... we just burned a second time out for this shit?

[mission]

Bielema is the old MM of game management

[HowardRoark]

dumb timeout

[Bretsky]

clueless frickin idiot

[Bretsky]

BB is no Barry Alvarez

[pbmax]

Wasted TO Bret.

[HowardRoark]

nice

[pbmax]

Punt!!!

[Bretsky]

EARTH TO MARS

THE BADGERS DEFENSE STOPPED OREGON !!!!!!!!

[mission]

I guess BB stands for Boner Bielema

[Bretsky]

I didn't think the whole ball had to cross............learned something

BB is adequate but our best coach is leaving for Pittsburg and he might be taking the next best coach with him

[Bretsky]

downtime

Get Erin Andrews back on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pbmax]

HD is not being kind to Brent.

[easy cheesy]

I guess BB stands for Boner Bielema

Boner Bulimia? Does that mean that one should spit and not swallow? Oh.... wait... that's BIELEMA!... nevermind....

[HowardRoark]

grind

keep them off the track

[Bretsky]

why is James White playing so much ???

[pbmax]

White doesn't read inside blocking like Ball.

#not really news

[Bretsky]

Monte....I'd look great in Green n Gold........is a stellar receiving RB

[pbmax]

Seriously, Wilson is such a good 2 threat QB. Haven't seen it since Brooks and he is a better thrower.

[Bretsky]

TDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD DDDDDDDd

[easy cheesy]

Yeah Buddy!!!!

[Bretsky]

Seriously, Wilson is such a good 2 threat QB. Haven't seen it since Brooks and he is a better thrower.


I can't figure out of Wilson is going to be a starting NFL QB but height aside it sure seems like he has the rest

[mission]

awesome watching this kid play QB...

[mission]

I can't figure out of Wilson is going to be a starting NFL QB but height aside it sure seems like he has the rest

Brees?

[Bretsky]

Brees?

yup...but there are not many

[Bretsky]

for gosh sake you stupid CB's........................look for the ball

[Bretsky]

third and eighteen

Come on DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[HowardRoark]

nice

[easy cheesy]

OMG OMG!!!

[pbmax]

Great stop.

[Bretsky]

I think turnovers is the only way to stop them

[pbmax]

I am not even mad about the block in the back since the Badgers still have possession. Hope the Oregon kid is OK.

[Bretsky]

We have one of the best OL's in the NCAA

It'd be a good time to show that

Monte Ball, anyone ????????????

[Bretsky]

Ohio State Homer Herbstreet has improved
He's not as good as my boy Chuckeeee though

[easy cheesy]

Rut Roh... Duck Down..... stretcher coming out... Brent still looks like an aged and addled turtle....

[Bretsky]

poor Colts; they probably would trade the Number One Pick for the Number Two Pick just not to have to make the decision.......lol

[HowardRoark]

Get a TD Ball.

[Bretsky]

MONTE BALL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygQvB6OjHOU

[pbmax]

Whoops.

[easy cheesy]

Good Lord have mercy. This is unreal.

[Bretsky]

DAMMIT...........KEEP FEEDING THE HORSE

[Bretsky]

OK, I'm really LIKING this Oregon RB as well

[Bretsky]

that HAS to be a fumble and a lost yard on the recovery, right ???

[easy cheesy]

Whoops.


Understatement of the day... :)

[MJZiggy]

Boner Bulimia? Does that mean that one should spit and not swallow? Oh.... wait... that's BIELEMA!... nevermind....:lol::lol:

[pbmax]

that HAS to be a fumble and a lost yard on the recovery, right ???

You would think so.

[pbmax]

ESPN 3 is not half bad today.

[Bretsky]

ROCK ON WISCONSIN.............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVS87pYQNvw

[Bretsky]

another third down

[Bretsky]

YOU SACK OF ROTTON WALDEN SHIT

MAKE THE Tackle !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pbmax]

Nearly had a stop on 3rd down but missing the tackle cost 'em.

[Bretsky]

BUSH LEAGUE patetic attempt for a frickin tackle just cost you seven points

Oregon with the lead

[easy cheesy]

ROCK ON WISCONSIN.............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVS87pYQNvw

Not so fast... unfortunately...

[MJZiggy]

Where is Harvey today?

[Bretsky]

Where is Harvey today?

He doesn't like watching quality Colllege football. He's an Ohio State Buckeye Fan :))))))))))))))))))))))

[Bretsky]

gotta admit I love the Ducks Unis

[Bretsky]

there we go trying to get cute instead of pounding the rock
Second and Ten

Need to run some clock and score here or we may have a dagger soon

[Bretsky]

Feeling bad karma

[easy cheesy]

gotta admit I love the Ducks Unis

Check yourself kind Sir... :)

[pbmax]

gotta admit I love the Ducks Unis

Don't like the jerseys, love the helmet.

[Bretsky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTSVOnhLtCs

[Freak Out]

Time for Oregon to pull the dagger out of the sheath.

[HowardRoark]

gotta admit I love the Ducks Unis

I went to that game out there in 2001; I like a lot about their program. Great game day experience.

[Bretsky]

WHO BROUGHT SCHOTTENHEIMER IN to prepare or DB's for the game ?

[easy cheesy]

I think the Rose Bowl is turning into the Tidy Bowl and Flushing is not just a city in Michigan it's what's happening to the Badgers.... gettin' flushed in the Tidy Bowl... Bon Voyage! ***insert eye roll here*** I'm such a buzz kill....

[Bretsky]

need a hold or you can cast a dagger into us

[pbmax]

Coming back. Grabed his neck.

[Bretsky]

frickin Cheaters

[pbmax]

Now false start. here is your chance Badger D

[Bretsky]

INSULT to go for it

[pbmax]

Had pressure but he fell down. Had coverage but fit it in.

[pbmax]

INSULT to go for it

That's their style.

[HowardRoark]

INSULT to go for it

Hopefully ONE of the defenders is insulted.

[Bretsky]

fourth down again

SOMEBODY MAKE A DAM PLAY

[Bretsky]

That's their style.


a college HOODIE ?

[easy cheesy]

Why do the Goddamned marching bands always play John Williams? If I hear the Star Wars theme one more time I'm gonna go crazy on a bitches ass! AND... to make matters WORSE... there go the Ducks with their bad selves on fourth down... JHC.... I never really liked goose but I have a cooked one laying before me... hmmmm

Edited for King's English...

Should I have said "goose" or "geese"? Certainly not "duck"...

[Bretsky]

Hopefully ONE of the defenders is insulted.


do we have "one"

[Bretsky]

I can't believe they kicked it

[pbmax]

Don't drop back and throw each time Paul. Play action first down. Run then decide on 3rd, etc.

[Bretsky]

OK, let's get a final drive and score the TD and go for the two pt coversion

[pbmax]

Could use another big return

[Bretsky]

dude has some good moves; if only he was fast

[Bretsky]

DAMMIT..........my man MONTE needs one more TD

[pbmax]

Ball blew that read of the block. Ran right into the LB

[Bretsky]

I think our OL has the fix in; they'd stopped blocking

[pbmax]

Generous spot

[Bretsky]

HUGE PLAY BY TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

[pbmax]

Need play action. O is throwing LB and safety to LOS on run action

[Bretsky]

Ball needs to stop hurdling people; he looked like he got a helmet in the frickin sack the one time

[pbmax]

Ouch.

[easy cheesy]

Are you even KIDDING me with this BULLSHIT?

[Bretsky]

and there is the dam game

[Freak Out]

lol.

[pbmax]

Didn't have it secured.

[easy cheesy]

Ouch.


Again... the master of understatement... :) IN DA HOUSE!

[Bretsky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saMUmG4HU1E

[pbmax]

Extra TO or two would look good right now.

[Bretsky]

sidenote to BB
thx for pissing away two of our timeouts !!!!

[Bretsky]

The first TO was absolutely inexcusable. First Down at Oregon's fifteen yard line. The second one was a miscalculation......but the first one....was Rick Kotite Like

[pbmax]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saMUmG4HU1E

Channeling Sheep?

[Freak Out]

The first TO was absolutely inexcusable. First Down at Oregon's fifteen yard line. The second one was a miscalculation......but the first one....was Rick Kotite Like

Ouch.

[Bretsky]

Here is to you BB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtrFjqoimcc

[mission]

horrible

[Bretsky]

snap it

[Bretsky]

give us one more play !!

[Bretsky]

this game is over

[pbmax]

End of game

[Bretsky]

You have to run a dam play there.......not spike it

[HowardRoark]

another dumb coaching decision

[mission]

you're on the 20-something yard line........ why not just run a fucking play???!

[pbmax]

More Schembechler than Alvarez. :)

[Freak Out]

Valiant effort.

[mission]

completely mismanaged all the way through.. i feel sorry for these kids

[Bretsky]

Note from first game day thread post

To compete with Oregon, we need mistake free coaching, no turnovers, and some effective Red Zone Defense



Uhhhh;...............which one was missing

[SkinBasket]

I hate all of you.

[pbmax]

He has got to figure out game management.

[pbmax]

Note from first game day thread post

To compete with Oregon, we need mistake free coaching, no turnovers, and some effective Red Zone Defense



Uhhhh;...............which one was missing

Turnovers?

[Bretsky]

you're on the 20-something yard line........ why not just run a fucking play???!



that is an ez explanation
Because they weren't mentally ready to do so.........honestly.................

That's the best time to run a dam play..........yell something out.......give the D no time to regroup.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Beliema wasted two timeouts in 2nd half. He called timeout on a damn first-and-ten play on offense early in half.

B. needs to let somebody else handle timeouts. Maybe Bucky Badger.


The team played OK, Oregon has too much speed for them. Also, no pass rusher is killer.

[Bretsky]

He has got to figure out game management.


Some people just have that, and some don't

BB has been consistently piss poor with that

[Bretsky]

I hate all of you.

puck off

[Harlan Huckleby]

completely mismanaged all the way through.. i feel sorry for these kids

oh please. Badgers played close w/ superior team.

[Bretsky]

Turnovers?

good point

but I was thinking coaching

Geez the dude who started this thread was dam smart .......lol

[easy cheesy]

Valiant effort.

Even Stevie Wonder could read between those lines.... :)

[Bretsky]

Beliema wasted two timeouts in 2nd half. He called timeout on a damn first-and-ten play on offense early in half.

B. needs to let somebody else handle timeouts. Maybe Bucky Badger.


The team played OK, Oregon has too much speed for them. Also, no pass rusher is killer.

Oregon probably had more talent and they were clearly lead by a superior coach
That first TO.....right when he ran out like an idiot calling it....you knew we'd need that

[gbpackfan]

Bielema the red nosed BUFFOON! Boy, did he blow that game. Putz. He will be exposed next year now that his OC is gone.

[mission]

oh please. Badgers played close w/ superior team.

argue it versus chip kelly's miscues... BB didn't put his team in best position to win. sorry you don't like that.

[mission]

Oregon probably had more talent and they were clearly lead by a superior coach
That first TO.....right when he ran out like an idiot calling it....you knew we'd need that

oh please.

[Harlan Huckleby]

really, Oregon was outscoring Badgers whole game - except for the fuble returned for TD inn first half.

[mission]

oh please. Badgers played close w/ superior team.

edit makes you seem like less of a jerk

[Bretsky]

oh please. Badgers played close w/ superior team.

I would not call them Superior

Perhaps a little more talented and better prepared

[easy cheesy]

GO STANFORD! My friend Bubz is an OK fan and I won't take two shits in one day! Well... ummmm... you know what I mean....

[HowardRoark]

He has got to figure out game management.

He is too emotional during games; maybe he needs to pop a Midol or something.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Oregon probably had more talent and they were clearly lead by a superior coach
That first TO.....right when he ran out like an idiot calling it....you knew we'd need that

The TOs were dumb. Otherwise, I can't argue with game plan, execution, motivation.

Badgers played like well-coaqched team

[mission]

that is an ez explanation
Because they weren't mentally ready to do so.........honestly.................

That's the best time to run a dam play..........yell something out.......give the D no time to regroup.

even if he just starts running around without telling anyone anything they have a better chance at winning the game. definitely not putting it on that play, though... the abberderis fumble was the costliest given the timing but oregon was just too good to beat with so many small mistakes.

[Harlan Huckleby]

He is too emotional during games; maybe he needs to pop a Midol or something.

ya, I think this is fair criticism

[mission]

Badgers played like well-coaqched team

well coached, yes. game management, which is what i spoke of-- not so much.

[pbmax]

that is an ez explanation
Because they weren't mentally ready to do so.........honestly.................

That's the best time to run a dam play..........yell something out.......give the D no time to regroup.

I would bet you are right. There is no way with 2 seconds you can spike UNLESS everyone is set and the QB is already in position under center. One word count, snap and spike. The QBwould need to watch the arm of the ref and not rely on the whistle. The Badgers did not appear to do any of this except perhaps have all but QB set at whistle.

The alternative is to call a play on the fly which they obviously choose not to do . Unsure whether they have that kind of thing in their arsenal.

Coach Aggressive might have a few holes in his clock management playbook.

[easy cheesy]

BLAH BLAH BLAH! DUCKS WON... WISCONSIN SHITS THE BED TWO YEARS IN A ROW IN THE ROSE BOWL... ONWARD AND UPWARD....

now.. let's see if that hot little bastard out of Houston can bring some LUCK to the Stanford team... WOOOT!... ***going to get some Tostitos and Pico de gallo***

(ok... Houston via DC)

[Harlan Huckleby]

I would not call them Superior

Perhaps a little more talented and better prepared

more talented = Superior
Badger DBs could not catch Oregon players, couldn't cover well
Oregon D-line was MUCH better5 than Badger D-line
Oregon much more talented, overall.

Badgers were clearly well prepared, they played their A game.

[Harlan Huckleby]

well coached, yes. game management, which is what i spoke of-- not so much.

ya, game management not great.

pro game very different from college, tho. you get spoiled by pro precision

[Harlan Huckleby]

edit makes you seem like less of a jerk

comment makes you seem like more of a jerk

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think Big Ten should just compete with MAC conference to be champs of the midwest.

Two dissapointing bowl seasons in a row, time to get real.

Big 10 heydey was pre-1970s when most black players came north.

[esoxx]

I knew the game was over when Badgers punted on 4th and 3 in the 1st quarter from the Oregon 40. Plain stupid in a fastbreak football game like this.

[mission]

comment makes you seem like more of a jerk

Not the first time I've out-jerked you (wait..) :lol: anyway, this is the first forum software I've seen that edits a quoted post's quoted text even after it's been posted. 'Oh please' with nothing else is pretty douchy when the game really was mismanaged. But whatever, I was pissed.

[Bretsky]

I would bet you are right. There is no way with 2 seconds you can spike UNLESS everyone is set and the QB is already in position under center. One word count, snap and spike. The QBwould need to watch the arm of the ref and not rely on the whistle. The Badgers did not appear to do any of this except perhaps have all but QB set at whistle.

The alternative is to call a play on the fly which they obviously choose not to do . Unsure whether they have that kind of thing in their arsenal.

Coach Aggressive might have a few holes in his clock management playbook.


The official who wound the clock was a good ten yards behind the QB so he could only go by the whistle and may have thoguht he had time. I doubt the call on the fly...which was their only option....was in their arsenal. I think most of us would agree coach aggressive has plenty of holes in game management

[Bretsky]

more talented = Superior
Badger DBs could not catch Oregon players, couldn't cover well
Oregon D-line was MUCH better5 than Badger D-line
Oregon much more talented, overall.

Badgers were clearly well prepared, they played their A game.

Using your selective comparisons, I'll add a few of my own

Badgers OL is Much Better than Oregon's OL
Badgers QB is superior
Badger has edge at TE
Badgers LB's are better overall

Badgers secondary had several blown Schottenheimer like coverages where they went the wrong way. Perhaps that was part of the A game you speak of ?

[Bretsky]

I knew the game was over when Badgers punted on 4th and 3 in the 1st quarter from the Oregon 40. Plain stupid in a fastbreak football game like this.




FIVE CLAP THOUGHT

[Pugger]

Love the helmets

But the rest of their unis are horrid.

[Pugger]

I can't figure out of Wilson is going to be a starting NFL QB but height aside it sure seems like he has the rest

With the success of Brees height might not be the issue it once was.

[ThunderDan]

Bretsky-

The whammy is offically dead!

[Pugger]

completely mismanaged all the way through.. i feel sorry for these kids

This isn't the first time BB screwed the pooch with his lousy game management. :x

[MJZiggy]

This isn't the first time BB screwed the pooch with his lousy game management. :x
I hear Mike Sherman's available. *ducks*

[Pugger]

Beliema wasted two timeouts in 2nd half. He called timeout on a damn first-and-ten play on offense early in half.

B. needs to let somebody else handle timeouts. Maybe Bucky Badger.


The team played OK, Oregon has too much speed for them. Also, no pass rusher is killer.

Where have we seen that before? ;-)

BB screwed up in the Mich State game too. :neutral:

[Pugger]

The TOs were dumb. Otherwise, I can't argue with game plan, execution, motivation.

Badgers played like well-coaqched team

Yes, but BB's game management skills leave a lot to be desired.

[mission]

BB screwed up in the Mich State game too. :neutral:

And the Chiefs game!

[Pugger]

even if he just starts running around without telling anyone anything they have a better chance at winning the game. definitely not putting it on that play, though... the abberderis fumble was the costliest given the timing but oregon was just too good to beat with so many small mistakes.

I had flashbacks of JJ fumbling in Chicago last season and the ball just laying there waiting for an Oregon Duck to fall on it. :-(

[Pugger]

Using your selective comparisons, I'll add a few of my own

Badgers OL is Much Better than Oregon's OL
Badgers QB is superior
Badger has edge at TE
Badgers LB's are better overall

Badgers secondary had several blown Schottenheimer like coverages where they went the wrong way. Perhaps that was part of the A game you speak of ?

The biggest advantage Oregon had was TEAM SPEED. WI had no answer especially for their speedy offensive players. If Bucky wants to compete in these big bowl games they have to recruit speedy players too instead of concentrating on big bruisers to pound the ball behind behemoth linemen.

[mission]

I had flashbacks of JJ fumbling in Chicago last season and the ball just laying there waiting for an Oregon Duck to fall on it. :-(

how does that not roll out of bounds or even happen to touch abberderis while he was out of bounds?? on the replay the ball was literally an inch from his swiping hand--too close!

[mission]

The biggest advantage Oregon had was TEAM SPEED. WI had no answer especially for their speedy offensive players. If Bucky wants to compete in these big bowl games they have to recruit speedy players too instead of concentrating on big bruisers to pound the ball behind behemoth linemen.

there aren't many humans who run 4.1 like deanthony thomas... dude is otherworldly.

[Bretsky]

Bretsky-

The whammy is offically dead!


ahhh; it only works in the NFL :)

[Pugger]

there aren't many humans who run 4.1 like deanthony thomas... dude is otherworldly.

Yes, but they had other speedsters out there too. That young man was indeed otherworldly. He must make NFL scouts drool.

[mission]

Yes, but they had other speedsters out there too. That young man was indeed otherworldly. He must make NFL scouts drool.

you made a good point and i wish they would, im just not sure how many of those guys the badgers could recruit even if they were trying. everyone wants the fast guys... we gotta settle for the big farm boys. =/

[King Friday]

The biggest advantage Oregon had was TEAM SPEED. WI had no answer especially for their speedy offensive players. If Bucky wants to compete in these big bowl games they have to recruit speedy players too instead of concentrating on big bruisers to pound the ball behind behemoth linemen.

I'm sure they try to get speed...speed just ain't coming to play in Madison.

[Fosco33]

Well... made the Rose Bowl - again. Haven't watched highlights/etc - few questions?

- Was that a safety? (why did we call a timeout to challenge - or was it not reviewable - that timeout really hurt us)
- missed FG hurt (add 3 and 2 for safety and the last drive is a FG to win)
- can't believe how fast Oregon was and how quick they scored.
- Why not run it 2 on 3rd/4th and 1

Oregon fans > TCU fans. Great day, tailgaiting.

Lots of sad Badger fans at LAX right now...

[Cheesehead Craig]

I'm sure they try to get speed...speed just ain't coming to play in Madison.

Not with the shitty DC they have in WI. The whole staff needs to go on that side of the ball.

[pbmax]

Well... made the Rose Bowl - again. Haven't watched highlights/etc - few questions?

- Was that a safety? (why did we call a timeout to challenge - or was it not reviewable - that timeout really hurt us)
- missed FG hurt (add 3 and 2 for safety and the last drive is a FG to win)
- can't believe how fast Oregon was and how quick they scored.
- Why not run it 2 on 3rd/4th and 1

Oregon fans > TCU fans. Great day, tailgaiting.

Lots of sad Badger fans at LAX right now...

It wasn't a safety. At least from all available TV camera angles.

[Freak Out]

The Badgers played a hell of a game....lucky bounces...or non bounces win games sometimes. What I don't understand is why try and spike it at the end with 2 seconds on the damn clock? Don't risk it and throw the damn ball....stupid IMHO.

[pbmax]

The official who wound the clock was a good ten yards behind the QB so he could only go by the whistle and may have thoguht he had time. I doubt the call on the fly...which was their only option....was in their arsenal. I think most of us would agree coach aggressive has plenty of holes in game management

With 2 seconds left, there is no way to get that off unless Wilson watches him while under center. The moment his arm twitches, he needs to call a one word snap and then spike. You cannot count on a slow clock operator and you can't wait for the whistle (for instance, what if the official moves his arm a half second before blowing the whistle?).

You would need to practice a limited time quick spike OR be able to call a hail mary play on the fly.

Or stop using your timeouts like they are Tic Tacs.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Or stop using your timeouts like they are Tic Tacs.

ya, this is the really valid criticism. BB used a timeout early in the half on a first down play - didn't like formation. Better to take a delay of game penalty there than burn a precious timeout in close game. And the second timeout was a pure brain fart.

I've defended BB because the team was well prepared, motivated and executing a good game plan. His "game management" overall is not bad, but he blew the timeouts. Again.

[pbmax]

Another thing that kills me, but this happens in the pros as well, is how players are not clock aware about when or if to go out of bounds. Its not fair to lay the blame for this on Jared A., all he needed to do once he picked up a first down was get OOB. There is nothing to be gained from an extra yard or two at the expense of a dozen seconds or a TO.

[sharpe1027]

Congrats to Oregon, they are a very good team and its great to see them win it after 100 years of futility.

Two personal gripes with the game.

1) Oregon's lineman should have been called for holds about 10 different times that I saw; it could be more than that in total. Either that or you can now hook a defender that has beat you by wrapping your arm around them. If that is the case, then the one holding call they did make was not a hold.

2) If you are going to change a ruling on the field, you should make it clear to the players and coaches that the ruling is being overturned. Thus, when one official clearly and unquestionably signals that the play is out of bounds and the clock is stopped, any decision to overrule this call must be made very clear to everyone. You don't just signal for the clock to start again without clearly notifying both teams. There is no reason to be looking at the officials once the call is made (unless teams now need to expect every call to be reversed at any time and without warning). Terrible job in a crucial situation.

[Pugger]

I have a question about the game last night. Late in the 2nd quarter Toon got out of bounds but the game clock didn't stop and it took a few seconds before BB realized he had to burn another time out. What is up with that? They said it was because he wasn't going forward when he went out??? I thought if you go out at any time the clock stops no matter what direction you are going - or is this just in college??? :cnf: