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pbmax
01-04-2012, 11:29 PM
Jason Wilde stumbled into tabulating MVP votes on Twitter and out of 50 voters, he has eleven reporting.
jasonjwilde Jason Wilde
There's 11th vote for Rodgers. Thanks, Kent. @MaddieWilde, @Sydney_Wilde say "Hi." RT @kentsomers: Rodgers
31 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
So far, no reported votes for anyone else.
pbmax
01-04-2012, 11:32 PM
So far, Kent Somers, Peter King, Tom Curran, Adam Schein, Rich Gannon (?), Chris Mortenson, Chris Collingsworth, Tom Silverstein, Rick Gosselin, Sean Jensen and Pete Prisco.
pbmax
01-04-2012, 11:33 PM
And one fantastic story about the 3rd Favre MVP:
jasonjwilde Jason Wilde
Whoa. RT @davegoldberg84: Favre would've lost to Sanders when they tied in '97 if vote came after final game. We changed the next yr.
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply
gbgary
01-04-2012, 11:34 PM
cool.
Tarlam!
01-05-2012, 12:08 AM
So far, Kent Somers, Peter King, Tom Curran, Adam Schein, Rich Gannon (?), Chris Mortenson, Chris Collingsworth, Tom Silverstein, Rick Gosselin, Sean Jensen and Pete Prisco.
Nothing like a bit of peer pressure to get the other 39 votes. Things are looking good!
gbgary
01-05-2012, 12:11 AM
So far, Kent Somers, Peter King, Tom Curran, Adam Schein, Rich Gannon (?), Chris Mortenson, Chris Collingsworth, Tom Silverstein, Rick Gosselin, Sean Jensen and Pete Prisco.
does skip have a vote? :) he hates AR.
pbmax
01-05-2012, 07:10 AM
does skip have a vote? :) he hates AR.
Someone asked that and according to Wilde, no he does not. I suspect one other Rodgers vote would be Mike Silver from Yahoo! He has got to back his fellow Cal alum.
Kiwon
01-05-2012, 07:36 AM
I think A-Rod wins it going away. He has the stats and was off only one Sunday (with several drops by the receivers to boot). Doing it while being hit and sacked 36 times is incredible. One of the greatest seasons ever.
Patler
01-05-2012, 08:32 AM
It is really an odd season.
Most ex-QB commentators have been blown away by the ease with which Rodgers performed. I keep recalling Aikman saying several times, "It really is not as easy as Rodgers makes it look."
On the other hand, padding or not, Brees had an amazing statistical year. New all time records for yards and completion percentage, leadership and near record in TD throws. He crushed the yardage record.
My gut (and heart) says Rodgers, and I can generate a list of reasons. Brees' backers can do the same for him, and it is hard to argue against their list. I have to fall back on those who should know best, the ex-NFL QBs; and most that I have heard seem to back Rodgers.
gbgary
01-05-2012, 08:41 AM
our man flynn making a mockery of the Packers record books may make some voters pause.
pbmax
01-05-2012, 08:53 AM
our man flynn making a mockery of the Packers record books may make some voters pause.
One guy said he was switching his vote based on that, but there is no confirmation nor has anyone else come forward to say it did, finally, change their vote. In fact two people who considered the possibility that it might change votes (King and Collingsworth) voted for ARod.
HarveyWallbangers
01-05-2012, 09:39 AM
It is really an odd season.
Most ex-QB commentators have been blown away by the ease with which Rodgers performed. I keep recalling Aikman saying several times, "It really is not as easy as Rodgers makes it look."
On the other hand, padding or not, Brees had an amazing statistical year. New all time records for yards and completion percentage, leadership and near record in TD throws. He crushed the yardage record.
My gut (and heart) says Rodgers, and I can generate a list of reasons. Brees' backers can do the same for him, and it is hard to argue against their list. I have to fall back on those who should know best, the ex-NFL QBs; and most that I have heard seem to back Rodgers.
I don't think it's that close really. Both had great years. Historically significant, but Rodgers was clearly better. Three facts make it clear that Rodgers is the choice: 1) his team was better, 2) his team beat Brees' team head-to-head, and 3) his stats were better. When you look closer, Rodgers' numbers are better. Brees had him in completion %, but Rodgers had him by more in YPA. He also had him in TD % and easily beat him in interception %.
The only argument one could make is Rodgers had a better supporting cast, but that's debatable. New Orleans has a better OL, better RBs, and plenty of weapons--although I'd take Green Bay's receivers. Colston, Graham, Sproles, Meachem, Henderson, and Moore are pretty darn good also.
mraynrand
01-05-2012, 09:42 AM
our man flynn making a mockery of the Packers record books may make some voters pause.
Yep. Why vote for Rodgers when the equipment guy could come in an throw for 4 TDs too? Of course, the more likely possibility is that Flynn is better than all but a handful of current starters.
mraynrand
01-05-2012, 09:45 AM
I don't think it's that close really. Both had great years. Historically significant, but Rodgers was clearly better. Three facts make it clear that Rodgers is the choice: 1) his team was better, 2) his team beat Brees' team head-to-head, and 3) his stats were better. When you look closer, Rodgers' numbers are better. Brees had him in completion %, but Rodgers had him by more in YPA. He also had him in TD % and easily beat him in interception %.
The only argument one could make is Rodgers had a better supporting cast, but that's debatable. New Orleans has a better OL, better RBs, and plenty of weapons--although I'd take Green Bay's receivers. Colston, Graham, Sproles, Meachem, Henderson, and Moore are pretty darn good also.
That's a good summary of the conundrum. It's close to an impossible choice, but part of the equation - even though it technically shouldn't be considered - is going to be Rodger's run through last year's post season.
I personally look at the interception number and just marvel at it. Rodgers has the iron will/accuracy to not make the risky/bad throw that gets picked.
pbmax
01-05-2012, 04:22 PM
Danny O'Neil and another unnamed Twitterer both voting for Rodgers. By my count, that is 14. Wilde has it at 15. One other to be revealed Sunday in article. No votes reported to him yet for anyone other than Rodgers.
12. O'Neil: https://twitter.com/#!/jasonjwilde/status/154992049555374082
13. Anonymous: https://twitter.com/#!/jasonjwilde/status/154995604781674496
14. Clark Judge: https://twitter.com/#!/jasonjwilde/status/155021337793015808
15. revealed in paper Sunday: https://twitter.com/#!/jasonjwilde/status/155022000971190272
pbmax
01-05-2012, 06:06 PM
Well, he has an update though it doesn't add up to what is in his timeline; he has 14 name, 3 anonymous that have voted for Rodgers. But its unclear if all 3 anonymous were Rodgers supporters at this point since only one of them has a Tweet associated with it.
https://twitter.com/#!/jasonjwilde/status/155066164769341440
Tarlam!
01-05-2012, 06:10 PM
What is that, PB? Close to 35% and counting? Needs another nine votes only, right?
mission
01-05-2012, 06:49 PM
It's gonna be like 46-4...
pbmax
01-05-2012, 06:55 PM
What is that, PB? Close to 35% and counting? Needs another nine votes only, right?
If there are only 2 different players named, he needs to be on 25.5 ballots.
gbgary
01-05-2012, 06:56 PM
Yep. Why vote for Rodgers when the equipment guy could come in an throw for 4 TDs too? Of course, the more likely possibility is that Flynn is better than all but a handful of current starters.
:lol: yup...that and the det secondary sucks azz. i think n.o. lights them up.
It's gonna be like 46-4...
you may not be that far off.
Freak Out
01-05-2012, 06:59 PM
Do the racing sausages have a vote? I think they should.
Tarlam!
01-05-2012, 07:01 PM
If there are only 2 different players named, he needs to be on 25.5 ballots.
Who else besides Brees has a shot? Has Brees garnered any votes yet that we know of?
gbgary
01-05-2012, 07:04 PM
Who else besides Brees has a shot? Has Brees garnered any votes yet that we know of?
maurice jones drew maybe?
Kiwon
01-05-2012, 07:05 PM
A Rodgers MVP Watch!!
When does it go on sale? How much is it? Is there a 'Rodgers' Chia Pet coming in the future?
Tarlam!
01-05-2012, 07:06 PM
Counting chickens before they are hatched is inviting bad Karma, so this is definitely only an invitation to speculate rather than to predict.
What does Rogers have to achieve to be considered better than Favre? 4 MVPs and 2 SB titles? Would that be enough? Many believe he has already proven it, but iMHO, he has a long way to go. Thoughts?
gbgary
01-05-2012, 07:12 PM
Counting chickens before they are hatched is inviting bad Karma, so this is definitely only an invitation to speculate rather than to predict.
What does Rogers have to achieve to be considered better than Favre? 4 MVPs and 2 SB titles? Would that be enough? Many believe he has already proven it, but iMHO, he has a long way to go. Thoughts?
oh no you didn't!
Tarlam!
01-05-2012, 07:20 PM
oh no you didn't!
Yeah. Call me reckless, but I like living on the edge.
Joemailman
01-05-2012, 08:02 PM
Relax gbgary. Packers cannot lose. The Super Bowl is in the bag. I guarantee it.
MJZiggy
01-05-2012, 08:25 PM
Relax gbgary. Packers cannot lose. The Super Bowl is in the bag. I guarantee it.
Oh Jesus Christ!
gbgary
01-05-2012, 08:34 PM
Relax gbgary. Packers cannot lose. The Super Bowl is in the bag. I guarantee it.
noooo. i was lamenting the invitation of another rodgers v bf comparison...not the poke in the ribs of the football gods.
Joemailman
01-05-2012, 08:38 PM
noooo. i was lamenting the invitation of another rodgers v bf comparison...not the poke in the ribs of the football gods.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FnpaWQJO0
Tarlam!
01-05-2012, 09:14 PM
Relax gbgary. Packers cannot lose. The Super Bowl is in the bag. I guarantee it.
Oh Jesus Christ!
Joe's not the only fan making guarantees, Zig.
Joemailman
01-05-2012, 09:36 PM
Oh Jesus Christ!
Got the t-shirt Zig?
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bxbrIBLOL.jpg
Tarlam!
01-05-2012, 09:44 PM
Got the t-shirt Zig?
Hahaha. You will incurr the wrath of many a poster. And, if the Pack doesn't win the Ring, IT'S GONNA BE YOUR FAULT!
MJZiggy
01-05-2012, 09:51 PM
Got the t-shirt Zig?
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41bxbrIBLOL.jpg
If Jesus really loved us, there would be no talk of Drew Brees in the MVP discussion.
mission
01-05-2012, 09:56 PM
you may not be that far off.
I know I exaggerate a lot, but I really think it's going to be something goofy lopsided like that.
King Friday
01-05-2012, 10:53 PM
Everyone loves the stats Brees put up.
He threw a ton more passes to achieve the statistics.
He didn't play outdoors in 30 degree weather the last month of the season.
He lost to the f-ing Rams.
Rodgers is the MVP...shouldn't really be a question.
King Friday
01-05-2012, 10:54 PM
What does Rogers have to achieve to be considered better than Favre?
Is his pecker longer than 4 inches?
mraynrand
01-05-2012, 10:57 PM
Oh Jesus Christ!
relax. apparently he's only looking after Tebow
Joemailman
01-05-2012, 10:59 PM
Hahaha. You will incurr the wrath of many a poster. And, if the Pack doesn't win the Ring, IT'S GONNA BE YOUR FAULT!
Nah. I'll just blame whoever started the gameday thread.
Tarlam!
01-05-2012, 11:15 PM
Nah. I'll just blame whoever started the gameday thread.
Oh nice cutback!
Upnorth
01-06-2012, 10:03 AM
Nah. I'll just blame whoever started the gameday thread.
No it will be Bretsky's fault for the undefeated prediction destroying the power of the WHAMMY. Damn you Bretsky, damn you.
Also I will blame GBGary a little bit.
woodbuck27
01-06-2012, 02:59 PM
a) We were 15-1, two wins better than the Saints.
b) Aaron Rodgers is OUR QB and he had by far the highest passer rating in history.
c) Did Matt Flynn's performance in game 16 reflect poorly on Aaron Rodgers chances of being MVP?
NO !
That performanc 'only' determines that THE PACKER SYSTEM WORKS. Every player on the roster must have the right attitude towords being prepared to step in..step up! It's a matter of record that Aaron Rodgers fully supported Matt Flynn's record performance. Matt Flynn gave Aaron Rodgers full credit as supporting him last Sunday and being his teams NO. 1 QB and looking forward to seeing the best QB in the NFL play the first playoff game on Jan. 15.
c) Aaron Rodgers is easily the MVP; and that fact extends into last season as we went on a Super Bowl run.
gbgary
01-06-2012, 07:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RxYJb2ScuXM
:lol:
Tarlam!
01-06-2012, 07:37 PM
Oh, that is a GREAT ad! Thanks for posting!
Freak Out
01-06-2012, 07:38 PM
LOL.
pbmax
01-06-2012, 09:16 PM
Wilde ran out of voters willing to fess up and he never posted rsults for 2 of the 3 Direct Messages he got. He tallies 14 votes in the open and Tweeted that one DM was a Rodgers vote. That's 15 plus the revela that will be in someone's paper Sunday. So we will know 16 votes before Monday. All A Rod so far.
pbmax
01-07-2012, 12:36 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/jasonjwilde/status/155465697235976192
Wilde Tweets the total, including Direct Message votes (requesting anonymity) was 18-0 for Rodgers.
Tarlam!
01-07-2012, 05:22 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/jasonjwilde/status/155465697235976192
Wilde Tweets the total, including Direct Message votes (requesting anonymity) was 18-0 for Rodgers.
When will all votes be in?
pbmax
01-07-2012, 05:28 PM
When will all votes be in?
Votes were due prior to this past Tuesday. Results will be announced during the NFL Awards show in February.
smuggler
01-07-2012, 08:43 PM
Lol Raji doing the belt and then the hula. He's holding in laughter the whole time.
Smidgeon
01-07-2012, 10:24 PM
Such a funny commercial. :D
denverYooper
01-09-2012, 02:16 PM
Did King let the cat out of the bag?
Quarterback: Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay. Stunning that Rodgers got 47.5 of the 50 votes, as good as Drew Brees has been.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/01/08/wild.card.round/index.html#ixzz1izh6GftL
Smidgeon
01-09-2012, 02:54 PM
Did King let the cat out of the bag?
No. Those were how many votes he got for the all-pro team.
denverYooper
01-09-2012, 03:04 PM
No. Those were how many votes he got for the all-pro team.
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