OFFICIAL GREEN BAY PACKERS VS NY GIGANTES GAMEDAY THREAD - DIVISIONAL ROUND EDITION

[Rutnstrut]

piss poor,,MM got out coached big time today....

Happens quite often.

[mr_blonde]

This is dumb. INTs hurt and its not on the stat sheet.

IT WAS FUCKING 4TH DOWN!!!! THROW THE FUCKING FOOTBALL!!!!!! THE LAST FUCKING THING YOU WANT TO DO IS TAKE A COVERAGE SACK IN THAT SITUATION!!!!!

[pbmax]

Someone lost contain and Burnett saved him

[MJZiggy]

IT WAS FUCKING 4TH DOWN!!!! THROW THE FUCKING FOOTBALL!!!!!! THE LAST FUCKING THING YOU WANT TO DO IS TAKE A COVERAGE SACK IN THAT SITUATION!!!!!

If you close your eyes and breathe real deep, your vagina muscles will relax a little. Try it. It works.

[pbmax]

Wel look at that, a sack

[Kiwon]

Did they actually get a sack? :roll:

[Rutnstrut]

He's has tried a bunch of tight throws and so far they have al hit the turf save for Driver

That's true for today.

[LEWCWA]

this D, like i have said has been lights out tonight and MM has just put them in bad spots, Capers as well......this should be a 16-13 game but for poor coaching...that td at the end of the first half is going to end our season....

[Kiwon]

Wow....2 score game. I guess we'll find out how good we were supposed to be. (Muffled scream)

[Teamcheez1]

I'm shocked to say the defense has kept us in the game today.

Rodgers has a chance to prove he is really the MVP with the next drive.

[wpony]

dont throw at finley

[pbmax]

Hard to argue with the 27 yard line start but he should pitch to Cobb.

[wpony]

keep in driver the rest of the way along with jennings

[gbgary]

need a quick score or we're pretty much done...

[Teamcheez1]

Fair point, but that is not how he plays.

On 4th down it would have made absolutely no difference if he threw a pick downfield. He needed to take a chance on that play, not take the sack.

[pbmax]

Newhouse is in.

[pbmax]

Oh my god.

[wpony]

thats it :(*

[MJZiggy]

Oh Jesus Christ.

[wootah]

This is getting silly.

[LEWCWA]

gotta love it

[gbgary]

ugh

[LEWCWA]

what a disaster

[Teamcheez1]

It is now officially over.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Okay, that's it. No miracles can happen with three turnovers

[jmbarnes101]

That's how you lose a football game. :(

[pbmax]

On 4th down it would have made absolutely no difference if he threw a pick downfield. He needed to take a chance on that play, not take the sack.

Yes, I see the point.

[JohnMexico]

Fraudulence.

[Joemailman]

Who should the Packers draft?

[Kiwon]

Oh Jesus Christ.

Too late to pray now, MJZ.

Goodbye 2011-2012.............

Wait 'til next year :-(

[KalamazooPackerFan]

It really is who's hot going into the playoffs. If we lose (I know, it seems a sure thing) here's hoping SF goes all the way

[LEWCWA]

This team didn't look prepared at all

[Rutnstrut]

Oh Jesus Christ.

If you close your eyes and breathe real deep, your vagina muscles will relax a little. Try it. It works.

[pbmax]

If Grant had just hit the turf all would have been fine. Crap.

[LEWCWA]

too me this game fall squarley on the coaching....piss poor

[MJZiggy]

If you close your eyes and breathe real deep, your vagina muscles will relax a little. Try it. It works.

I didn't even have those three little words in all caps. Lighten up, sunshine.

[Rutnstrut]

This team didn't look prepared at all

Well the last fumble wasn't from that, but yes I agree.

[LEWCWA]

I guess we can get off Rodgers nuts now, cause he didn't show up today either...

[Bossman641]

What a day to have 3 fumbles

[Kiwon]

Put in Tebow!! Oh, wrong week........

[Rutnstrut]

I didn't even have those three little words in all caps. Lighten up, sunshine.

I was just havin a little fun, god knows we need a little levity;)

[MJZiggy]

If you close your eyes and breathe real deep, your vagina muscles will relax a little. Try it. It works.

And by the way, interesting that you have experience to give that advice.

Damn. My Matthews jersey has let me down.

[Bossman641]

I guess we can get off Rodgers nuts now, cause he didn't show up today either...

Shut up

[jmbarnes101]

too me this game fall squarley on the coaching....piss poor

Yep, because the coaches clearly told the team to fumble the ball 3 times, drop 7 passes, and take a big sack on 4th down. Huh?

[Joemailman]

On the bright side, a bunch of Packers get to play in the Pro Bowl.

[Teamcheez1]

I would never have guessed that the offense would have tanked and lost us this game.

If you would have told me that the Giants scored 30 points, I would have expected to see 35 or 42 for our side.

[gbgary]

fumbles and drops. geesh. AR gets to go to the Pro Bowl this year. no pesky superbowl to get in the way.

[pbmax]

too me this game fall squarley on the coaching....piss poor

Coaching? No. Maybe find fault with the last week of reg season.

But players have been making mistakes of commission. They are screwing up.

[pbmax]

Bad call, right call. It was a blow to the head on the rebound, not on the initial hit.

[pbmax]

He's been rocked. Flynn should go in. Jennings in coat.

[mr_blonde]

In this game in particular, but even over the last several games, Rodgers is holding on to the ball waaaayyyyy too long.

I don't get it .... is every play call 40 yard verticals or what?

[Kiwon]

Harbaugh Bros. Super Bowl........

[MJZiggy]

The urgency is a little late coming...

[jmbarnes101]

Giants are doing the falling down after a play to stop the clock bit again or he's genuinely hurt in which case I might feel sorry for him.

[Rutnstrut]

Finley you stupid fuck, your LOSING shut your mouth.

[wpony]

give arod those 7 droped passes this game would be alot diferent I dont think his day is as bad as everybody is saying he cant make the recievers catch the pases

[pbmax]

Brutal.

[pbmax]

Finley you stupid fuck, your LOSING shut your mouth.

I think he got belted late with a helmet. but replay wasn't on him. Tough to see.

[Teamcheez1]

15-1 ends up meaning nothing other than a footnote in the Packers record book.

It will sting even more when Rodgers hoists the MVP trophy with nothing to show for it. I think he will be just as motivated to play well after the season ending like this.

We will need to retool the defense to have any shot at redemption.

I knew repeating would be difficult and enjoyed the ride this year. Sorry to see it end this way.

[Rutnstrut]

In this game in particular, but even over the last several games, Rodgers is holding on to the ball waaaayyyyy too long.

I don't get it .... is every play call 40 yard verticals or what?

I said this weeks ago and that he was regressing, but the know it alls here jumped all over me.

[Kiwon]

Could we actually find the endzone?

[Freak Out]

Turnovers will kill a team the majority of the time. Enough said. The defense has played a pretty ugly game but the TOs are the story.

[pbmax]

Still breathing, barely.

[Kiwon]

Could we actually find the endzone?

Yes, we can! (finally)

[wpony]

the draft take the best secondary man avalible and the center from wi if he is avalible in the 2nd round he is great and can pull like a guard

[Rutnstrut]

15-1 ends up meaning nothing other than a footnote in the Packers record book.

It will sting even more when Rodgers hoists the MVP trophy with nothing to show for it. I think he will be just as motivated to play well after the season ending like this.

We will need to retool the defense to have any shot at redemption.

I knew repeating would be difficult and enjoyed the ride this year. Sorry to see it end this way.

Brees deserves the MVP over Rodgers, better player and better season.

[wpony]

finally to driver

[pbmax]

That's a catch.

[wpony]

better game not season

[pbmax]

I would take it no question, but after the blown call on Coughlin's challenge and that bad call on Rodgers helmet getting hit, I prefer them not to win on those two calls.

And again, a Packer had their hands on the ball

[Fosco33]

I thought in pregame... turnovers and execution. Didn't do either. Really pretty simple way to lose. Feel bad for Grant.... that was pure microcosm of this game. What a fucking way to end it. The near TD for Arod - instead a fumble. The clear pass to Finley - instead a 4th down sack on next play.

Had a bunch of chances. Just didn't have it tonight.

Need Aaron 'Tebow' Rodgers right now.

[pbmax]

Brees deserves the MVP over Rodgers, better player and better season.

Game Day troll much?

[Rutnstrut]

Game Day troll much?

It's called being a a realist, you should try it.

[MJZiggy]

It's called being a a realist, you should try it.

Why?

[Fosco33]

man... i really don't want to analyze this season/game anymore. I can hear all the stories.

Rest or rust

Philbin's distraction

blah blah blah

Real story was - we had chances and screwed the pooch. Glaring area of development for Arod is not getting frustrated by early drops. Really affects him.

[Freak Out]

Doesn't help when the Packers chum the water. :)

[mission]

I'm sorry, guys.

[wootah]

damn, can't get off the field on 3rd down

[falco]

It's called being a a realist, you should try it.

:roll:

[pbmax]

It's called being a a realist, you should try it.

108 posts, most on Game Days when the Packers are struggling, you seem more troll than realist.

[Freak Out]

Dagger.....well...the second one. :)

[Teamcheez1]

peprah is really bad

[Rutnstrut]

Doesn't help when the Packers chum the water. :)

Best post of the thread.

[MJZiggy]

I'm sorry, guys.

It was a fantastic effort on your part. Nothing more you could've done.

[Freak Out]

I'm sorry, guys.

Mission! The real reason the Packers lost!

[pbmax]

That was a good play followed by poor tackling.

[Teamcheez1]

Manning didn't have as great a day as the announcers make it out to be. He has over 300 yards, but at least 100 of it came on the Nicks pass and the Hail Mary.

[Rutnstrut]

108 posts, most on Game Days when the Packers are struggling, you seem more troll than realist.

I call them like I see them whether they are struggling or winning.

[Kiwon]

This is depressing....not another score, please.....

[pbmax]

Hard to credit defense when the Giants hung 30 on them, but the offense made far more errors, even counting the catastrophe of the Hail Mary.

Jacbos with cutback TD. Why not.

[jmbarnes101]

I don't like Eli or Brady so as bad as it seems I'm rooting for a Harbaugh brothers Superbowl because this one is definitely over. Ugh!

[Bossman641]

It's called being a a realist, you should try it.

You must be thrilled with the loss.

[Freak Out]

Fuck I hate this FOX crew.

[MJZiggy]

Goddamnfuckingsonofabitch.

[Teamcheez1]

No real effort there. The defense is gassed

[pbmax]

Lost contain on the left this time.

[wootah]

Goddamnfuckingsonofabitch.

That about sums it up.

A goodnight to y'all. Don't worry too long about this one, guys; next year we'll win them all.

[Freak Out]

Time to build a dome in GB.....put a roof on it baby. :)

[Kiwon]

When was the last time the Packers really got their butts kicked?

I can't remember......

[wpony]

dome in GB never happen

[MJZiggy]

Go Niners?

[wpony]

we would have done better in a dome i bet though

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Lesson for the season......live by the turnover, die by the turnover. Just a bit of an off day by the offense will kill ya

[pbmax]

Where is Clifton?

[Joemailman]

Lesson for today: Catch the ball and don't fumble it.

[wpony]

we are done we should put flynn in so we can all sAY GOOD BYE

[pbmax]

First seed in NFC is a death wish apparently.

[Jimx29]

And if there's still anyone who wonders why I will NEVER warm up to MIII, maybe they'll realize that lardass sitting his MVP QB leading up to the biggest game(s) of the years was a phenomenally stupid move.

[Freak Out]

dome in GB never happen

Twas joking....but you know that.

[jmbarnes101]

Go Niners?

Unfortunately, yes.

[pbmax]

And if there's still anyone who wonders why I will NEVER warm up to MIII, maybe they'll realize that lardass sitting his MVP QB leading up to the biggest game(s) of the years was a phenomenally stupid move.

Name a coach who plays him in a meaningless game.

[Rutnstrut]

Goddamnfuckingsonofabitch.

Sounds like that here to.

[Teamcheez1]

And if there's still anyone who wonders why I will NEVER warm up to MIII, maybe they'll realize that lardass sitting his MVP QB leading up to the biggest game(s) of the years was a phenomenally stupid move.

That's not the reason we lost this game.

[Gunakor]

Name a coach who plays him in a meaningless game.


Lovie Smith?

[MJZiggy]

Lesson for today: Catch the ball and don't fumble it.
Your avatar did that.

[jmbarnes101]

Unfortunately, Rodgers seemed to be struggling for most of the past month after Jennings went down. Just never seemed to reverse course for this game.

[mission]

Mission! The real reason the Packers lost!

Stone him.

I'm really depressed and not sober. This sucks. Hopefully we wake up and shore up the defense.

Murphy's Law kind of game IMO.

[LEWCWA]

credit to the Giants, they came in and whipped GB's ass......

[pbmax]

What a catch.

[wpony]

wasnt looking at who posted LOL sorry I have been hearing that around here lately about the dome

[Kiwon]

When will this thing be over...................Enough already.

[mr_blonde]

After winning the Super Bowl last season, the Packers didn't do anything to address the defensive personnel. They stuck with the status quo for this year and the end result was an absolute mess.

If anything, early elimination this year will force Thompson to address the talent on the defensive side of the ball .... he might even have to make a splash in free agency !?!?!

This still is a young and very talented team. The Packers comeback hungrier and better next year. (Though, I would like to see Capers somewhere else next year ....)

[Rutnstrut]

Hopefully Driver doesn't retire, I would hate to see the only Packer receiver that catches the ball go.

[mission]

We really got our asses kicked. I'd rather have this than a heartbreaker at the end of the game. The better team won.

[Teamcheez1]

Clifton looking over Lambeau field, probably realizing it will be the last time he plays a game there. He gave us a lot over the years.

[Freak Out]

Ugly way to end a season.... especially for the #1 seed at home. Time to rebuild the D and find a RB.

[mr_blonde]

Lesson for today: Catch the ball and don't fumble it.

Win the turnover battle; win the game. It's just that simple ....

[Rutnstrut]

After winning the Super Bowl last season, the Packers didn't do anything to address the defensive personnel. They stuck with the status quo for this year and the end result was an absolute mess.

If anything, early elimination this year will force Thompson to address the talent on the defensive side of the ball .... he might even have to make a splash in free agency !?!?!

This still is a young and very talented team. The Packers comeback hungrier and better next year. (Though, I would like to see Capers somewhere else next year ....)

If it doesn't fit into the way TT wants to do things he won't do a damn thing about it. God forbid you would bring in free agents or anything.

[pbmax]

After winning the Super Bowl last season, the Packers didn't do anything to address the defensive personnel. They stuck with the status quo for this year and the end result was an absolute mess.

If anything, early elimination this year will force Thompson to address the talent on the defensive side of the ball .... he might even have to make a splash in free agency !?!?!

This still is a young and very talented team. The Packers comeback hungrier and better next year. (Though, I would like to see Capers somewhere else next year ....)

Did you know there was a draft? And a recovering Mike Neal?

Saying this now is like predicting weather the day after.

[Joemailman]

Should have played Howard Green.

[SkinBasket]

I had a dream this week GB lost to DET in a feeble game. I'm assuming my dream meant NY.

Dreams don't lie.

I was also the only one of you homos to pick the Giants to win the east.

.

[Kiwon]

When was the last time the Packers really got their butts kicked?

I can't remember......

Still wondering.....

[pbmax]

Win the turnover battle; win the game. It's just that simple ....

This I can heartily agree with.

[pbmax]

If it doesn't fit into the way TT wants to do things he won't do a damn thing about it. God forbid you would bring in free agents or anything.

Yes, because it works so well in Philly

[pbmax]

Should have played Howard Green.

Can Howard play TE?

[mission]

Should have played Howard Green.

We needed at least another TE playing. The Giants didn't run at all on the Packers until the very end when it was a shot in the dark anyway.

[mr_blonde]

This team just wasn't as good as last year's team. They had a better record but weren't balanced like they were last year.

Defense still wins Championships.
You don't have to be the #1 defense but you can't be giving up 400 to 500 yards per game either.


New Orleans - toast.
Green Bay - toast
New England - toasted next weekend ?????

[Rutnstrut]

Dreams don't lie.

I was also the only one of you homos to pick the Giants to win the east.

.

.

[SkinBasket]

.

[pbmax]

Dreams don't lie.

I was also the only one of you homos to pick the Giants to win the east.

.

Link?

[mission]

This team just wasn't as good as last year's team. They had a better record but weren't balanced like they were last year.

Defense still wins Championships.
You don't have to be the #1 defense but you can't be giving up 400 to 500 yards per game either.


New Orleans - toast.
Green Bay - toast
New England - toasted next weekend ?????

Truth.

[Joemailman]

Still wondering.....

November 2008 at New Orleans.

[sheepshead]

32 nd defense in the league-we got what we deserved

[Teamcheez1]

We are the only team that lost a home playoff game so far this year. Teams are 7-1 to this point.

[denverYooper]

Well that sucked.

[ND72]

32 nd defense in the league-we got what we deserved

Defense wasn't the problem until late...Rodgers and the rest of the offense was the problem today.

[pbmax]

the notes about the defense are all well and good, but that defense played mediocre tonight, at least. :lol:

The offense was bad enough to beat down any defense.

[Teamcheez1]

Defense wasn't the problem until late...Rodgers and the rest of the offense was the problem today.

The defense played reasonably well minus the Hail Mary. The offense played horribly. We had 13 points with 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter.

[mr_blonde]

Did you know there was a draft? And a recovering Mike Neal?

Saying this now is like predicting weather the day after.

Who did we draft that contributed anything on defense this year???? Davin House? DJ Smith??
Thompson overestimated the talent on the defensive side of the ball. Granted losing Collins and Jenkins hurt but there are some really glaring holes on the defensive side of the ball.

[sheepshead]

Defense wasn't the problem until late...Rodgers and the rest of the offense was the problem today.

No they actually played well, I guess Im saying we werent going very far anyway....

[pbmax]

Who did we draft that contributed anything on defense this year???? Davin House? DJ Smith??
Thompson overestimated the talent on the defensive side of the ball. Granted losing Collins and Jenkins hurt but there are some really glaring holes on the defensive side of the ball.

So losing Collins and not getting a healthy Neal after drafting 4 college kids for defense is underestimating? That is just hindsight.

[sheepshead]

I didnt see a lack of talent out there tonight. (or all season) we didnt play well and got beat.

[HarveyWallbangers]

8 drops, 4 turnovers, and a Hail Mary (after a feeble tackle attempt on Bradshaw the play before). Hard to win with those stats. We played shitty, and we got what we deserved.

[mr_blonde]

So losing Collins and not getting a healthy Neal after drafting 4 college kids for defense is underestimating? That is just hindsight.

If your first pick on defense is in the fourth round (supplemental pick) and your next three defensive picks are two sixth round picks (one cut); a seventh round pick (IR'd) and putting your faith in a "healthy Neal" who has proved absolutely nothing .... then YES, your overestimating your talent level on defense.

[Cleft Crusty]

Man, that must have been some bong, dude. LOL - 300 yards rushing. 30 more like. Packer will have to score 40+ to win. Packers 42-38, optimistically. Giants 35, Packers 21 realistically. Too much uncertainty/rust in key positions: Clifton, Bulaga, Jennings, Woodson, Williams, Shields, Bishop, all big question marks for this one.

That Rand guy seems pretty smart. Check out the post game thread for answers to your questions.

[mr_blonde]

I didnt see a lack of talent out there tonight. (or all season) we didnt play well and got beat.

Dude, this team was dead last in defense!!!! They gave up over 411 yards per game!!! They have lots of problems on the defensive side of the ball and if not addressed, there won't be raising the Lombardi Trophy again anytime soon.

[Deputy Nutz]

8 drops, 4 turnovers, and a Hail Mary (after a feeble tackle attempt on Bradshaw the play before). Hard to win with those stats. We played shitty, and we got what we deserved.

Don't forget a couple of bad throws by Rodgers that Aikman did his best to try and hold receivers responsible. Rodgers had a very unRodgers like game and it is the reason the Packers lost. Rodgers exremely high level of play this season covered up a lot of problems.

[MJZiggy]

Dude, this team was dead last in defense!!!! They gave up over 411 yards per game!!! They have lots of problems on the defensive side of the ball and if not addressed, there won't be raising the Lombardi Trophy again anytime soon.
Isn't this awfully similar to your battle cry last year? Yup. I think it is.

[mr_blonde]

What Deion Sanders just said .....

[Joemailman]

I'm sorry, guys.

It's too late for that.

http://www.seektress.com/frank.jpg

[Pugger]

Win the turnover battle; win the game. It's just that simple ....

You can't turn the ball over 3 times and drop 8 passes and expect good things.

[pbmax]

If your first pick on defense is in the fourth round (supplemental pick) and your next three defensive picks are two sixth round picks (one cut); a seventh round pick (IR'd) and putting your faith in a "healthy Neal" who has proved absolutely nothing .... then YES, your overestimating your talent level on defense.

In hindsight. If you have a link to your prescient comment let's see it and we can genuflect in your direction.

[pbmax]

Don't forget a couple of bad throws by Rodgers that Aikman did his best to try and hold receivers responsible. Rodgers had a very unRodgers like game and it is the reason the Packers lost. Rodgers exremely high level of play this season covered up a lot of problems.

What did you think of the throw to Finley late that he had to leap for? Bad throw or bad route? Any way to tell?

[esoxx]

Name a coach who plays him in a meaningless game.

Mike McCarthy - 2007 last game against Detroit

[denverYooper]

troll alert

[pbmax]

Mike McCarthy - 2007 last game against Detroit

I would say good point if not for the last defeat to the Giants.

[esoxx]

I would say good point if not for the last defeat to the Giants.

Just answered the question was all. Nothing more.

[mr_blonde]

In hindsight. If you have a link to your prescient comment let's see it and we can genuflect in your direction.

You know, you are patronizing little punk.
You're a cocky, know everything, smart ass .... but I guess that's a typical trait of gay pedophiles.

I think you need an attitude adjustment.
Being see you ....

[digitaldean]

What did you think of the throw to Finley late that he had to leap for? Bad throw or bad route? Any way to tell?
Could possibly be both, but at first glance was that A-Rod threw just a bit too far in front of him.

[Joemailman]

It seemed like there were a lot of plays where Arod had plenty of time that did not result in a completion. Was Arod looking downfield and passing up the underneath stuff (Sometimes his greatest weakness, in my opinion), or was there really just no one open?

[hoosier]

Whatever went wrong between ARod and Finley on 3rd and 5 was compounded by the fact that he threw the ball a lot harder than he needed to. Batting practice tempo would have been sufficient. My uneducated opinion is to split the blame: give 65% to ARod, 35% to Finley.

[Freak Out]

8 drops, 4 turnovers, and a Hail Mary (after a feeble tackle attempt on Bradshaw the play before). Hard to win with those stats. We played shitty, and we got what we deserved.

Exactamundo.

[hoosier]

Did anyone notice Stark's poor play? He half-assed a blitz pickup (4th and 5 after Arod and Finley failed to hook up?), he seemed to go the wrong way or be a step slow on that play when ARod ran a keeper, and he failed to come up with the screen pass that ARod overthrew ever so slightly. I thought Grant looked great on the first play, and was surprised not to see MM go back to him. Even more so when Starks started showing up in all the wrong ways.

[Bossman641]

You know, you are patronizing little punk.
You're a cocky, know everything, smart ass .... but I guess that's a typical trait of gay pedophiles.

I think you need an attitude adjustment.
Being see you ....

Lol. Where did you come from

[Upnorth]

So some have blamed the o, others the d and some special teams. The real culprit is none other than Bretsky with his undefeated talk in the KC game day thread not only flaunting the whammy but angering it.

Damn you B, damn you.

Also I will blame GBGary a little.

[wpony]

I think what was happening was that Arod was getting frustrated with all the drops and started trying to force the ball alot. Also he started to put everything on his shoulders just like another QB that we used to have and thats when things started really going bad on the offense you could see it he was not playing like himself at all.

[mr_blonde]

Lol. Where did you come from

Well, my lips were just on your wife's pussy. Why don't you dust that thing off once in a while? Asshole!

[SkinBasket]

.

You're so ghey.

[MadtownPacker]

Mission! The real reason the Packers lost!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aXuCaGHOmc

[MadtownPacker]

You're so ghey.
FYI mr blonde has been suspended 30 days for his post in this thread. I know yours was a joke so we will leave it at that.

[Bossman641]

Well, my lips were just on your wife's pussy. Why don't you dust that thing off once in a while? Asshole!

Enjoy your time off. I'm sure we will see you again the next time the packers lose.

[ThunderDan]

FYI mr blonde has been suspended 30 days for his post in this thread. I know yours was a joke so we will leave it at that.

mr blonde is the only guy I have on ignore on this site. I was surprised he had 3 good posts in before he turned back to his usual postings.

[Pugger]

Did anyone notice Stark's poor play? He half-assed a blitz pickup (4th and 5 after Arod and Finley failed to hook up?), he seemed to go the wrong way or be a step slow on that play when ARod ran a keeper, and he failed to come up with the screen pass that ARod overthrew ever so slightly. I thought Grant looked great on the first play, and was surprised not to see MM go back to him. Even more so when Starks started showing up in all the wrong ways.

I've never been enamored with Starks' blitz pick ups all season.

[Deputy Nutz]

What did you think of the throw to Finley late that he had to leap for? Bad throw or bad route? Any way to tell?

That throw to Finely was all on Rodgers, Aikman tried to make Rodgers look good with his comments afterwards. The throw to Jennings on the first series of the game was a mix up. Rodgers saw Jennings break free and threw it to his outside shoulder away from the safety. Jennings turned to the inside and got spun around.

[Jimx29]

Name a coach who plays him in a meaningless game.Belacheat/brady

Rodgers seemed to always be off a couple degrees from the normal pinpoint accuracy we're used to. That wasn't they whole reason for all the drops and off throws, but it sure as shit didn't help. 2 full weeks w/o any contact when you're not injured just seems foolish....especially now.

Capers needs to be on the next train out of GB. First thing Monday a.m. wouldn't be too soon.

[Tarlam!]

Rodgers seemed to always be off a couple degrees from the normal pinpoint accuracy we're used to.

Rodgers was damned good in Week 1 after a much longer rest period.


Capers needs to be on the next train out of GB. First thing Monday a.m. wouldn't be too soon.

This is an over reaction, IMHO. Let the dust settle.

[woodbuck27]

Lol. Where did you come from


I believe he's a character out of Scary Movie.

[pbmax]

Did anyone notice Stark's poor play? He half-assed a blitz pickup (4th and 5 after Arod and Finley failed to hook up?), he seemed to go the wrong way or be a step slow on that play when ARod ran a keeper, and he failed to come up with the screen pass that ARod overthrew ever so slightly. I thought Grant looked great on the first play, and was surprised not to see MM go back to him. Even more so when Starks started showing up in all the wrong ways.

Yes on each example but he also ran hard and had a couple of nice runs for first downs, including a nice screen. I thought it was the first game in a long while that both he and Grant looked like themselves. He got blown up in the blitz pickup by a pretty decent backer and lack of contact for a few weeks showed.

But he was like the rest of the offense. It was all off sync by half a step or second. O line protected well but couldn't give Rodgers extra time unless he bailed. RB ran well (though not often enough perhaps) but had a fumble. Receivers did not seem on the same page as Rodgers and dropped a few. Rodgers was pressing, esp. in the second half. Any of those items clicks into place, the offense would have gotten out of its own way.

[woodbuck27]

I think what was happening was that Arod was getting frustrated with all the drops and started trying to force the ball alot. Also he started to put everything on his shoulders just like another QB that we used to have and thats when things started really going bad on the offense you could see it he was not playing like himself at all.

Aaron Rodgers demonsrtated his humanness. I still though he did his best to compensate. The best player on 'O' was on the sidelines most of the game. Donald Driver and we may have seen him in his last game as a Green bay Packer inspite of what he did that was positive when given the opportunity. I felt really bad for DD and Aaron Rodgers.

Damn our team sucked yesterday. It's really strange to me that MM felt that he had done his part to prepare the team and would have to look at it all to see what went south. Didn't he see the game the way the rest of us did? He has a house that simply needs some major renovations.

GO PACKERS!

[pbmax]

That throw to Finely was all on Rodgers, Aikman tried to make Rodgers look good with his comments afterwards. The throw to Jennings on the first series of the game was a mix up. Rodgers saw Jennings break free and threw it to his outside shoulder away from the safety. Jennings turned to the inside and got spun around.

Yes, Jennings clearly found an unexpected hole in coverage and tried to sit down in it and Rodgers expected him to bend it.

Finley ran a similar route and a similar hole in their zone, though it seemed less deep. Rodgers just never seemed to have a handle on where the coverage was going to be, his best opportunities were matchups and several of those were dropped/misfired.

[hoosier]

Yes on each example but he also ran hard and had a couple of nice runs for first downs, including a nice screen. I thought it was the first game in a long while that both he and Grant looked like themselves. He got blown up in the blitz pickup by a pretty decent backer and lack of contact for a few weeks showed.

But he was like the rest of the offense. It was all off sync by half a step or second. O line protected well but couldn't give Rodgers extra time unless he bailed. RB ran well (though not often enough perhaps) but had a fumble. Receivers did not seem on the same page as Rodgers and dropped a few. Rodgers was pressing, esp. in the second half. Any of those items clicks into place, the offense would have gotten out of its own way.

I know what you're saying about running hard, but it seemed to me that Starks regressed in the second half of the season. I distinctly remember at least three different occasions in the last six weeks of the season where he went the wrong way or wasn't where ARod was expecting him to be on a running play, and in each case Rodgers had to keep the ball. When Starks misses practice because of injury, his game performances really suffer--not for lack of effort but because he blows assignments. Maybe that is just a function of youth and inexperience. For all of Brandon Jackson's limitations, I think the Packers ended up missing him this year, much more than I thought they would.

[mraynrand]

For all of Brandon Jackson's limitations, I think the Packers ended up missing him this year, much more than I thought they would.


The Browns missed him even more - because he was lost FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON due to injury. And yes, Starks regressed after suffering a severe ankle sprain. So did Jennings after his knee sprain. Collins' performance took a severe dive after his neck injury too.

[SkinBasket]

FYI mr blonde has been suspended 30 days for his post in this thread. I know yours was a joke so we will leave it at that.

LOL. Never saw that dork's post. Jesus, can't a guy talk about vagina around here without someone going off the deep end?

[denverYooper]

What's funny to me today is that all week, the talk was about how New York could win with their fierce pass rush and ability to run the ball. They won for a lot of other reasons, but not those.

The Packers ran the ball for 143 yards and a 6.4 average. They held the Giants to 3.5 yards per carry. The Packers had the edge in TOP 30:25 - 29:35, were more efficient in the red zone (67%-40%), were equal on 3rd down conversions (50%). Just looking at those numbers you'd think Green Bay controlled the game.

The Giants had 4 sacks but they barely touched Rodgers until the 2nd half when Green Bay was in a hole and clearly started looking for longer passing plays.

Green Bay also got killed in the hidden yardage game. Turnovers and some poor decisions gave the Giants an average starting position of their own 42 vs GB's of their own 26. Pretty hard to win a ballgame when giving 176 extra yards to the other team.

[mmmdk]

What's funny to me today is that all week, the talk was about how New York could win with their fierce pass rush and ability to run the ball. They won for a lot of other reasons, but not those.

The Packers ran the ball for 143 yards and a 6.4 average. They held the Giants to 3.5 yards per carry. The Packers had the edge in TOP 30:25 - 29:35, were more efficient in the red zone (67%-40%), were equal on 3rd down conversions (50%). Just looking at those numbers you'd think Green Bay controlled the game.

The Giants had 4 sacks but they barely touched Rodgers until the 2nd half when Green Bay was in a hole and clearly started looking for longer passing plays.

Green Bay also got killed in the hidden yardage game. Turnovers and some poor decisions gave the Giants an average starting position of their own 42 vs GB's of their own 26. Pretty hard to win a ballgame when giving 176 extra yards to the other team.

In the first half 4 guys were plenty to pressure Rodgers & gave Giants more cover guys. And man it worked! The blitz packages came in the second half. If Packers O-line (ever) looks good it's solely due to Rodgers; if TT doesn't acknowledge this plus upgrades on D then cherish that one SB win from last 'cos that's all you're gonna get in the AR era. Unless the above mentioned is addressed.

[SkinBasket]

In the first half 4 guys were plenty to pressure Rodgers & gave Giants more cover guys. And man it worked! The blitz packages came in the second half. If Packers O-line (ever) looks good it's solely due to Rodgers; if TT doesn't acknowledge this plus upgrades on D then cherish that one SB win from last 'cos that's all you're gonna get in the AR era. Unless the above mentioned is addressed.

Well hopefully our O-coordinator's son won't die the week before every big game. No one's going to blame the guy, but you can't say this didn't affect the team.

[pbmax]

mr blonde is the only guy I have on ignore on this site. I was surprised he had 3 good posts in before he turned back to his usual postings.

Actually, he was making more sense than usual (he had me on the Rodgers 4th down sack). Its usually just rants and raves.

[pbmax]

Rodgers was damned good in Week 1 after a much longer rest period.



This is an over reaction, IMHO. Let the dust settle.

He's also not bad after reg season bye weeks. Also was OK after Super Bowl bye week.