What Should The Packers Do With Driver?

[Joemailman]

Donald Driver is due a $2.2 million signing bonus in March, and would count 5.6 million against the cap if the Packers keep him under his current contract. What should the Packers do?

[Joemailman]

I'd be interested in bringing him back for maybe about 2 million. He's still a darn good possession receiver.

[pbmax]

Restructure DD and fire Slocum.

[Fritz]

Fire Kurt Schottenheimer!

[gbgary]

fbf

[King Friday]

Release him. Hanging onto aging players turns you into the Steelers...a team that looks like a MASH unit by the end of the year. Take Clifton as an example...the guy might still be able to play when healthy, but he can't stay healthy for more than 3 games at a time it seems.

Cobb's ceiling is now higher than Driver's going forward. He should be the #4 WR...and there is NO excuse for putting an old guy like Driver in the #5 slot.

You thank Driver profusely...you wish him well...and you move on. Tell him he has an entry level coaching job in Green Bay whenever he wants it. You will never find out how good Cobb or Gurley or someone else is if you keep Driver in front of them.

[Brandon494]

One of the few guys that came to play against the Giants. You don't cut Donald Driver but you do restructure his contract which I think he will be fine with doing.

[Scott Campbell]

It's time. Thank you Donald. You've been a great Packer.

[George Cumby]

Fire Kurt Schottenheimer!

And Vanilla Bob!

[mraynrand]

One of the few guys that came to play against the Giants. You don't cut Donald Driver but you do restructure his contract which I think he will be fine with doing.


yep, and then let him compete in training camp. If the writing is on the wall that he won't make the cut, release him early and let him have a chance to catch on with another team with shitty, inexperienced receivers and that could use him in the locker room - like Cleveland

[gbgary]

One of the few guys that came to play against the Giants. You don't cut Donald Driver but you do restructure his contract which I think he will be fine with doing.


yep, and then let him compete in training camp. If the writing is on the wall that he won't make the cut, release him early and let him have a chance to catch on with another team with shitty, inexperienced receivers and that could use him in the locker room - like Cleveland

these!

[Guiness]

from the old coaches club, Nunn is coaching the G-Men's DL

[smuggler]

I say restructure and bring him into camp, and if it looks like he won't be a top 3 or 4 on the depth chart, you cut him early in camp so he can catch on somewhere else.

[Gunakor]

If one were to ask Driver whether he'd rather be the #5 WR on Green Bay's depth chart or a #3 on someone elses depth chart, I have a pretty good feeling that Driver would choose to stay in Green Bay. Moreover, I don't think Green Bay could find a WR as talented as Driver that would accept such a role. I think it's mutually beneficial to both parties to restructure Driver's contract and give him every opportunity to make this football team, even as a #5.

[swede]

If one were to ask Driver whether he'd rather be the #5 WR on Green Bay's depth chart or a #3 on someone elses depth chart, I have a pretty good feeling that Driver would choose to stay in Green Bay. Moreover, I don't think Green Bay could find a WR as talented as Driver that would accept such a role. I think it's mutually beneficial to both parties to restructure Driver's contract and give him every opportunity to make this football team, even as a #5.

Yep. As it is he hangs out on the sideline laughing, telling war stories, 'splaining how they used to run the skinny post at Alcorn State, and then grabbing his helmet to catch a fourteen yard slant on third and thirteen before leaving the field for another ten minutes.

[Smeefers]

If one were to ask Driver whether he'd rather be the #5 WR on Green Bay's depth chart or a #3 on someone elses depth chart, I have a pretty good feeling that Driver would choose to stay in Green Bay. Moreover, I don't think Green Bay could find a WR as talented as Driver that would accept such a role. I think it's mutually beneficial to both parties to restructure Driver's contract and give him every opportunity to make this football team, even as a #5.

Unfortunately a #5 isn't just relegated to sitting on the side line and cashing a check. They're Special teams players. I don't really understand why we try and number our WR's. Everyone on the squad expected to know every position. Next year Jennings and Nelson will always be on the field and the other three will get equal shares of playing time, just like this year. Need a hard 3rd down? Driver in the slot. Want a big play 1st down? Cobb in the slot. Want a good 1-1 match up on the outside? James Jones goes up the sideline.

[Brandon494]

As much as we use our 5 WR set and as good as a teammate that Driver is I'm surprised that flat out releasing him is leading in the poll. He obviously isnt the same player he once was but still had 7 TDs on the season. I'll take Driver matched up against any teams 4th CB any day of the week.

[Smeefers]

As much as we use our 5 WR set and as good as a teammate that Driver is I'm surprised that flat out releasing him is leading in the poll. He obviously isnt the same player he once was but still had 7 TDs on the season. I'll take Driver matched up against any teams 4th CB any day of the week.

If you add the people who want to keep him with the people who want to restructure, they have a slim lead, but I'm surprised it's that close.

[Gunakor]

Unfortunately a #5 isn't just relegated to sitting on the side line and cashing a check. They're Special teams players.


Randall Cobb is our return man whether he's #5 on the depth chart or #1. Does not matter. There are plenty of others that have filled key special teams roles while in the starting lineup. Charles Woodson and Greg Jennings come to mind, and those are just recent examples of Packers. I remember Derrick Mason returning kicks as Baltimore's #1 WR. So just because Driver is sitting at the bottom of the depth chart doesn't mean he needs to return kicks. And just because Cobb is near the top of it doesn't mean he can't.


I don't really understand why we try and number our WR's.

Because they are numbered on the depth chart. When I say #5, I'm talking about the player whose name is at the very bottom of that chart. Doesn't matter how often or in what manner they are used, they are still #5.

[sharpe1027]

Resign him for less and bring him into camp. After that, it's the same for nearly every player on the team, you still need to make the team with your play on and off the field. Whether or not he can still do that is an open question. His past year was not bad for a backup WR, but for Driver it represents a significant dropoff. It may signal he's at the edge of the cliff in terms of age and ability. He might fall off the cliff next year.

[bobblehead]

Release him. Hanging onto aging players turns you into the Steelers...a team that looks like a MASH unit by the end of the year. Take Clifton as an example...the guy might still be able to play when healthy, but he can't stay healthy for more than 3 games at a time it seems.

Cobb's ceiling is now higher than Driver's going forward. He should be the #4 WR...and there is NO excuse for putting an old guy like Driver in the #5 slot.

You thank Driver profusely...you wish him well...and you move on. Tell him he has an entry level coaching job in Green Bay whenever he wants it. You will never find out how good Cobb or Gurley or someone else is if you keep Driver in front of them.

Really? Comparing a LT to a WR is like comparing a porn star to my grandpa. Cliffy still has immense value. He played outstanding in the Giants game. Not many guys can do that. However, a lot of young guys can play WR as well as driver at this point and its time to move on. Love him, but its time.

[bobblehead]

If one were to ask Driver whether he'd rather be the #5 WR on Green Bay's depth chart or a #3 on someone elses depth chart, I have a pretty good feeling that Driver would choose to stay in Green Bay. Moreover, I don't think Green Bay could find a WR as talented as Driver that would accept such a role. I think it's mutually beneficial to both parties to restructure Driver's contract and give him every opportunity to make this football team, even as a #5.

He has played this very role the last 2 years. Do you really think Jennings and Jordy benefit from having him around anymore? Cobb can get as much out of Jennings at this point (he is a veteran now) as he will out of Driver. Its time. Old Yeller was a tear jerker and we can be sad, but he had to be put down.

[Scott Campbell]

I'll take Driver matched up against any teams 4th CB any day of the week.




Ok, but he's getting paid like a guy who's supposed to destroy #1 and #2 CB's.

[Brandon494]

Ok, but he's getting paid like a guy who's supposed to destroy #1 and #2 CB's.

I understand that but I think we can restructure his deal, if he refuses then of course you cut him.

[Gunakor]

He has played this very role the last 2 years. Do you really think Jennings and Jordy benefit from having him around anymore? Cobb can get as much out of Jennings at this point (he is a veteran now) as he will out of Driver. Its time. Old Yeller was a tear jerker and we can be sad, but he had to be put down.

It's not about his mentoring of the young guys. It's about he'd be the best #5 WR in football. Look at most teams in the league. Look at the worst WR on those teams. Driver is better than all of them. So if he's willing to stick around and be the bottom guy on the depth chart then I see no better alternative for that position.

[Gunakor]

Ok, but he's getting paid like a guy who's supposed to destroy #1 and #2 CB's.

I'll defer to Ted as far as the finances go. He may be overpaid but if it isn't a cap concern then who gives a shit.

[MJZiggy]

You guys are absolutely nuts. You don't just get rid of Donald freaking Driver. You do everything in your power to keep him just like he does everything in his power to stay. Even at his age, he is still a finely conditioned athlete who is still willing to make plays others are afraid of. He will be in camp. And he will be worth keeping. DD is one of those guys who will go straight from playing to coaching and damn I hope he transitions to coaching here. This isn't Madden, people. Thank God for Ted.

[Patler]

Driver has less of a chance of being in GB next season than Clifton does, and I doubt Clifton will be back.

[Pugger]

You guys are absolutely nuts. You don't just get rid of Donald freaking Driver. You do everything in your power to keep him just like he does everything in his power to stay. Even at his age, he is still a finely conditioned athlete who is still willing to make plays others are afraid of. He will be in camp. And he will be worth keeping. DD is one of those guys who will go straight from playing to coaching and damn I hope he transitions to coaching here. This isn't Madden, people. Thank God for Ted.

I'm fond of Driver too but unless he takes a pay cut he won't be back in 2012. If he returns next season he'll be down the depth chart and so his pay will reflect that. If Donald won't take a pay cut/restructure of his salary he will be playing somewhere else this fall.

[Patler]

You guys are absolutely nuts. You don't just get rid of Donald freaking Driver. You do everything in your power to keep him just like he does everything in his power to stay. Even at his age, he is still a finely conditioned athlete who is still willing to make plays others are afraid of. He will be in camp. And he will be worth keeping. DD is one of those guys who will go straight from playing to coaching and damn I hope he transitions to coaching here. This isn't Madden, people. Thank God for Ted.

Is it worth paying him $2 million just to bring him to camp? That is his roster bonus that is due in March. If he is willing to be released and re-signed, maybe you bring him back, but I really don't see why at this point. His performance has declined significantly the last two years, to the point that the Giants were content using a linebacker to cover him. Time to move on.

Probably the same goes for Clifton, but the decision on him can wait because I don't believe he has any significant off season payments due. They might need Clifton, depending on how quickly Sherrod heals.

[wootah]

You guys are absolutely nuts. You don't just get rid of Donald freaking Driver. You do everything in your power to keep him just like he does everything in his power to stay. Even at his age, he is still a finely conditioned athlete who is still willing to make plays others are afraid of. He will be in camp. And he will be worth keeping. DD is one of those guys who will go straight from playing to coaching and damn I hope he transitions to coaching here. This isn't Madden, people. Thank God for Ted.

I like DD as well, but the fact of the matter is there is better upside & cheaper talent available which will help the Pack more, maybe even in the short run already. Borel, Gurley & Smithson will all have an extra year under their belt and who knows who Ted will add via the draft. Driver had a fantastic run here, but unfortunately for him I think TT will do what's right for the future of the team.

[Gunakor]

Is it worth paying him $2 million just to bring him to camp?


This is relative to the amount of cap space available. If Driver has to be released so Finley and Wells can be resigned that's one thing, but if Finley and Wells can be resigned regardless of whether Driver is back at $2 million or not then it makes no difference. I just don't want to see Driver released simply for monetary reasons if it isn't absolutely necessary, because his cheaper replacement likely would be a downgrade at the bottom of the depth chart.

[Brandon494]

The Giants didn't have a LB covering Driver, they were in zone coverage and the LB was covering that spot on the field. Like I said the guy still had 7 TDs on the year and was one of the few to show up against the Giants. It's pretty simple, if he accepts a paycut you keep him and if not then its time to move on.

[Patler]

This is relative to the amount of cap space available. If Driver has to be released so Finley and Wells can be resigned that's one thing, but if Finley and Wells can be resigned regardless of whether Driver is back at $2 million or not then it makes no difference. I just don't want to see Driver released simply for monetary reasons if it isn't absolutely necessary, because his cheaper replacement likely would be a downgrade at the bottom of the depth chart.

I don't see how it is related to the space available. There is always another use for cap space. It never makes sense to waste millions of salary cap dollars on a player that you don't expect to play a big role on your team.

The Packers went out of their way to keep both Gurley and Borel at the end of the season when other teams tried to sign them away from the Packers practice squad. They didn't do that just to have them on the PS for a few more weeks. They did that to have them compete for a roster spot in 2012, Driver's spot.

[Patler]

The Giants didn't have a LB covering Driver, they were in zone coverage and the LB was covering that spot in the field. Like I said the guy still had 7 TDs on the year and was one of the few to show up against the Giants. It's pretty sure, if he accepts a paycut you keep him and if not then its time to move on.

That is the only way I see them bringing him to camp. I will be surprised if they give him the $2 million bonus in March. I could see them declining the bonus, then signing him to a contract with a value that he might get from another team.

On the other hand, it's clear that the Packers have a strong interest in both Gurley and Borel. I'm not sure they have much interest in Driver anymore at any price.

[Brandon494]

As far as Gurley taking Driver's spot I see no reason why we could not keep 6 WRs on the team. I mean kept 5 TEs this season and I don't think Quarless will be ready by the start of next season.

[Patler]

As far as Gurley taking Driver's spot I see no reason why we could not keep 6 WRs on the team. I mean kept 5 TEs this season and I don't think Quarless will be ready by the start of next season.

There are usually underlying reasons for the excess numbers at a position, with reasons to keep each player to provide something that the others do not. For several years at FB, they had two guys that were prominent ST guys, and a young guy with a lot of potential as a heavy hitter blocking. This year at TE there were again reasons to keep each guy. Each had potential in an area that others seemed to lack. That may change in 2012, because Quarless (if he is ready) and both rookies seemed to pick up their blocking skills, making the value of Crabtree less important.

WR would seem to be a position for an "extra" roster spot in 2012, but it still might not include Driver. I could see them keeping both Gurley and Borel, which would give them 6 without Driver.

On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if TT pulled off a trade involving Jones. He could be the added value needed for a significant move up in the draft when combined with one or more of the Packers' own picks. He is a proven commodity with a reasonable contract for the next two years, and could be appealing to a number of teams. On the Packers he might be no more than #4 on their depth chart next year. Could be the way to get a premium defensive player in the draft.

I am looking forward to seeing what Borel and Gurley really have to offer. The Packers are obviously very interested in both.

[Patler]

....and I don't think Quarless will be ready by the start of next season.

Ya, probably not. An unfortunate injury late in the season. An unfortunate injury at a critical time in the player's development. It will rob him of much of the value of off-season work, after having none following his rookie year. Tough start for his career.

[Upnorth]

I credit a lot of the ST's improvement this year to the 5 te's. They have great st bodies and skill sets. This should be a factor in the decision as well.

[denverYooper]

I am looking forward to seeing what Borel and Gurley really have to offer. The Packers are obviously very interested in both.

I think Gurley has a good shot to make the roster due to his knack for blocking kicks. You can't teach that height.

[Brandon494]

I credit a lot of the ST's improvement this year to the 5 te's. They have great st bodies and skill sets. This should be a factor in the decision as well.

I think it had more to do with the new kickoff rule and Randall Cobb as a improvement over Swain at returner. Also with our offense we didn't have to punt as much.

[Freak Out]

Can Driver play defense?

[Deputy Nutz]

How about you tell him that you don't really need him but if he wants to play then their is spot for him, then when he understands this as you shoving him out the door, he retires. Then reality sets in for DD and he recognizes that he has more to offer and still has passion for the game, but you have his spot filled, you won't let him compete, but you can't imagine him playing for another franchise... See where I am going with this?

[pbmax]

How about you tell him that you don't really need him but if he wants to play then their is spot for him, then when he understands this as you shoving him out the door, he retires. Then reality sets in for DD and he recognizes that he has more to offer and still has passion for the game, but you have his spot filled, you won't let him compete, but you can't imagine him playing for another franchise... See where I am going with this?

Maybe. But we haven't had his retirement press conference yet, so much remains to be revealed.

[Brandon494]

Also don't remember Driver flirting with retirement the past few seasons.

[denverYooper]

Besides, I doubt Driver even owns a pair of Crocs.

[Scott Campbell]

In hindsight, I think it would have been ok if we had cut him prior to this year. Actually it's not really hindsight, as I think I said the same thing during camp.

[Upnorth]

Driver was productive and an asset through out the 2011 season. He probably could be again in 2012, but our young receivers on the PS have more upside. Even with a restructure I think he should walk. I hope there is a role for him in the organization as he has been one of my favorite players for about 6 yrs now.

[Scott Campbell]

Driver was productive and an asset through out the 2011 season. He probably could be again in 2012, but our young receivers on the PS have more upside. Even with a restructure I think he should walk. I hope there is a role for him in the organization as he has been one of my favorite players for about 6 yrs now.


I don' t think he was productive relative to his ~$6M contract/cap number.

There's no shame in expensive older players getting cut. Sooner or later it happens to everybody. He's been a great Packer, but over the last couple of years he's been "just a guy". It's time.

[Pugger]

Also don't remember Driver flirting with retirement the past few seasons.

Hell, Driver has been stating the exact opposite - he wants to play until he's 40.

[gbgary]

happy birthday DD. turned 37 today.

[bobblehead]

How about you tell him that you don't really need him but if he wants to play then their is spot for him, then when he understands this as you shoving him out the door, he retires. Then reality sets in for DD and he recognizes that he has more to offer and still has passion for the game, but you have his spot filled, you won't let him compete, but you can't imagine him playing for another franchise... See where I am going with this?

No...are you going somewhere? I think if you are going where you appear to be, you forget that we beg him to work out all offseason and come back ready to play in TC. We tell you that you are the guy as long as you do that, and then DD retires, sluffs off, talks to other teams while in retiremtent, then wants to come back for TC after dissing the team all offseason....is that where you are going?

[Scott Campbell]

No...are you going somewhere? I think if you are going where you appear to be, you forget that we beg him to work out all offseason and come back ready to play in TC. We tell you that you are the guy as long as you do that, and then DD retires, sluffs off, talks to other teams while in retiremtent, then wants to come back for TC after dissing the team all offseason....is that where you are going?


Not to mention that you can't fetch a 3rd rounder in return for him.

[woodbuck27]

Donald Driver is a loved Packer and a solid contributing citizen in Green Bay. You do not release DD. That would be a huge PR nightmare.

You bring him into camp and allow him to compete and determine his rank among WR's. Is DD going to be happy about a restructured contract? Time will tll us the answer there. DD will return to us next season and contribute more TD's. Thay's a no brainer.

[Patler]

Donald Driver is a loved Packer and a solid contributing citizen in Green Bay. You do not release DD. That would be a huge PR nightmare.

You bring him into camp and allow him to compete and determine his rank among WR's. Is DD going to be happy about a restructured contract? Time will tll us the answer there. DD will return to us next season and contribute more TD's. Thay's a no brainer.

Unfortunately there is that pesky little check for $2 million that they have to send him in March.

[woodbuck27]

How about you tell him that you don't really need him but if he wants to play then their is spot for him, then when he understands this as you shoving him out the door, he retires. Then reality sets in for DD and he recognizes that he has more to offer and still has passion for the game, but you have his spot filled, you won't let him compete, but you can't imagine him playing for another franchise... See where I am going with this?

Ahhhhh Gee ! Not sure. Ohh wait ... I've got it.

Could they actually pull the same stunt off twice?

Naw! This is Donald Driver.

[woodbuck27]

Hell, Driver has been stating the exact opposite - he wants to play until he's 40.

Some here only read to understand what they need to understand to meet their need.

[woodbuck27]

Unfortunately there is that pesky little check for $2 million that they have to send him in March.


Hasn't he earned it? Just ** $2 Million$

and .....The Packers tried to bribe Brett Favre to retire a Packer at the tune of 10 times** that much.

GO PACKERS !

[Freak Out]

Holy shit.....not again.

[Scott Campbell]

Holy shit.....not again.


It was a bribe? :lol:

[Patler]

Hasn't he earned it? Just ** $2 Million$

and .....The Packers tried to bribe Brett Favre to retire a Packer at the tune of 10 times** that much.

GO PACKERS !


Hasn't he been paid each and every year until now?

Favre's "bribe" would not have counted against the salary cap, the bonus due to Driver does. It's not insignificant.
I bet the Packers would gladly give DD a few million to take on an ambassador role for a few years, if in return he would simply retire.

[woodbuck27]

Hasn't he been paid each and every year until now?

Favre's "bribe" would not have counted against the salary cap, the bonus due to Driver does. It's not insignificant.
I bet the Packers would gladly give DD a few million to take on an ambassador role for a few years, if in return he would simply retire.

Have you considered the BIG PICTURE there and awarding a deserving player?

That payoff you suggest to DD just might be accepted; not like the Packer PR 'bribe' to Favre that they knew he would turn down because he deserved to continue playing in the NFL.

[sharpe1027]

The Packers are up against the cap. Every player needs to be evaluated based upon what they will bring to the table this coming year. Past success does not guarantee future success. Bottom line, I would love for him to come back and play again, but it is a business and I have serious doubts that he will be worth the money next year. I think that unless he takes a reduced salary there is a good chance that he will be cut.

[sharpe1027]

Have you considered the BIG PICTURE there and awarding a deserving player?

That payoff you suggest to DD just might be accepted; not like the Packer PR 'bribe' to Favre that they knew he would turn down because he deserved to continue playing in the NFL.

I believe that the "bribe" was originally offered after he retired, but before he expressed any interest in coming back. Back to Driver please.

[woodbuck27]

I believe that the "bribe" was originally offered after he retired, but before he expressed any interest in coming back. Back to Driver please.

So maybe it was 'a Retirement Package' he was offered if he actually retired? An example of management getting stupid.

[sharpe1027]

So maybe it was 'a Retirement Package' he was offered if he actually retired? An example of management getting stupid.

I guess it could have been, but you're just making an uniformed guess. Maybe it was actually a payment for him to keep silent about the dead bodies Ted Thompson keeps in his office. Maybe it was payment for future rights to his first born son. Or maybe, just maybe, they just were paying him to help with publicity. Of course nobody would pay a professional athlete and future hall of famer lots of money just for PR...would they?

Anyway, was he already retired when it was offered? Pot stirring failure.

[Scott Campbell]

I guess it could have been, but you're just making an uniformed guess. Maybe it was actually a payment for him to keep silent about the dead bodies Ted Thompson keeps in his office. Maybe it was payment for future rights to his first born son. Or maybe, just maybe, they just were paying him to help with publicity. Of course nobody would pay a professional athlete and future hall of famer lots of money just for PR...would they?

Anyway, was he already retired when it was offered? Pot stirring failure.


Woody still hates Ted.

[Upnorth]

How does this relate to the subject at hand? Let's talk more about Finley!

Even if Driver restructures what do we then do with the two ps receivers? Gurley deserves a shot.

[sharpe1027]

How does this relate to the subject at hand? Let's talk more about Finley!

Even if Driver restructures what do we then do with the two ps receivers? Gurley deserves a shot.

Throw them in the mix and see if they sink or swim. If they sink, Driver sticks around and everyone is happy. If they swim, they get the spot and the team improves.

[gbgary]

Even if Driver restructures what do we then do with the two ps receivers? Gurley deserves a shot.

they all deserve a shot, so they go to camp competing for spots. if gurley beats out DD so be it. they have to earn it. nothing's changed.

[Joemailman]

I'm amazed how much faith people are putting in guys on the practice squad. Practice squad guys are far from a sure bet. That's why they're on the practice squad. You want to release Donald Driver so you don't lose someone who's on the practice squad? It doesn't make sense to pay Donald Driver 5 million, but if he accepts less money, it doesn't make sense to not give him a chance to make the team. Besides, you can find room for 6 WR's on the roster, especially if one of the guys is a standout on special teams. Gurley showed some promise there.

[pittstang5]

How come no one has stated the obvious. Trade Jones, keep Driver....problem solved.


Oh and fire Slocum!

[Scott Campbell]

I'm amazed how much faith people are putting in guys on the practice squad. Practice squad guys are far from a sure bet.


They're as close to a sure bet as you'll find. The staff got to watch them perform for an entire season. The staff knows.

[Pugger]

I'm amazed how much faith people are putting in guys on the practice squad. Practice squad guys are far from a sure bet. That's why they're on the practice squad. You want to release Donald Driver so you don't lose someone who's on the practice squad? It doesn't make sense to pay Donald Driver 5 million, but if he accepts less money, it doesn't make sense to not give him a chance to make the team. Besides, you can find room for 6 WR's on the roster, especially if one of the guys is a standout on special teams. Gurley showed some promise there.

They must have something the coaches like because when other teams came sniffing around wanting to sign these kids off of our practice squad TT and company upped their salaries from PS to rookie scale so they'll be around this spring.

[pbmax]

Its not simply a question of dumping Driver because the PS guys are guarantees. The PS guys are question marks, but they are cheap punctuation right now. Driver is expensive and no one knows what he will do if faced with a contract restructuring mandate.

So Thompson does have to choose, but the variable is Driver's decision. To keep him means a FA (the team's own) might not be able to be signed. That really suppresses the money that can be offered Driver. And like Patler suggests, the 5th WR should be able to contribute to ST. As it is, Jennings and Jones do not. Nelson and Cobb do, though it could be argued Nelson should participate less.

[Fritz]

Another way to look it this would be to remember that the Packers' most successful wide receiver from the practice squad ever is probably Billy Schroeder...

[MJZiggy]

Another way to look it this would be to remember that the Packers' most successful wide receiver from the practice squad ever is probably Billy Schroeder...

Now there's a compelling argument if I ever heard one...

[swede]

I think Bill Schroeder is a compelling argument to the question of whether or not Favre could turn anyone into a 1,000 yard receiver.

[King Friday]

Now there's a compelling argument if I ever heard one...

And when was the last time a second round pick was our #5 WR?

There are some STARTING WRs in the league who would be on our practice squad right now.

[pbmax]

Driver told reporters Friday in Milwaukee (speaking engagement) that he a) would be willing to take a paycut and b) had a broken finger surgically repaired recently. Broke it in KC.

[Guiness]

Oh and fire Slocum!

Why?

Oh, right, it's Tuesday. Or at least, it will be in a couple of days!

[Upnorth]

Why?

Oh, right, it's Tuesday. Or at least, it will be in a couple of days!

I thought wednesday was fire slocum day. Was there a memo changing it that I didn't get?

[pbmax]

I thought wednesday was fire slocum day. Was there a memo changing it that I didn't get?

Maybe the schedule changes in the offseason.

[Upnorth]

Did the newspapers get the updated schedual?
I haven't seen any news about anybody getting fired. I demand confrontation! I demand wild accusations! I demand train camp stàrt soon!
Sigh.
Can we at least move the draft up? How about some more draft reports. Anything?
Sigh.

[Pugger]

Driver told reporters Friday in Milwaukee (speaking engagement) that he a) would be willing to take a paycut and b) had a broken finger surgically repaired recently. Broke it in KC.

I wonder how his hand looks. Have any of you seen Torry Holt on the NFL Network? One of his fingers is really mangled!

[Bretsky]

I wonder how his hand looks. Have any of you seen Torry Holt on the NFL Network? One of his fingers is really mangled!

Not as bad as Larry Mccarein's sp? pinky

[MJZiggy]

Not as bad as Larry Mccarein's sp? pinky

Yeah, but I don't think he ever got that thing fixed.

[pbmax]

Yeah, but I don't think he ever got that thing fixed.

At some point, not getting it fixed is just showing off. He should just carry around a copy of his CT scan or MRI of his head if he wants people to see how he suffered.