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Pugger
02-02-2012, 06:24 PM
The Packers have announced Tom Clements as their new OC. :tup: The next question is now who will be the QB coach? Can he do both?

Brando19
02-02-2012, 06:31 PM
MM is all three...head coach, OC, and QB's coach.

Patler
02-02-2012, 06:48 PM
McAdoo will become QB coach, and they will bring in a new TE coach, or maybe give it to Hilgenberg.

Joemailman
02-02-2012, 07:07 PM
The Packers have announced Tom Clements as their new OC. :tup: The next question is now who will be the QB coach?

Slocum!!!

Upnorth
02-02-2012, 09:48 PM
With his air it out cfl background I don't think we will be running the ball more this year, sorry bobblehead.

KYPack
02-02-2012, 10:18 PM
McAdoo will become QB coach, and they will bring in a new TE coach, or maybe give it to Hilgenberg.

They have to make a hire here. A big part of the QB coaches job is to be a buffer btw the HC and the QB. The QB coach will also be responsible for getting Harrell ready for the back-up job. I didn't realize McAdoo was ready for this job, but it wouldn't surprise me if he got it.

Patler
02-02-2012, 10:56 PM
They have to make a hire here. A big part of the QB coaches job is to be a buffer btw the HC and the QB. The QB coach will also be responsible for getting Harrell ready for the back-up job. I didn't realize McAdoo was ready for this job, but it wouldn't surprise me if he got it.

Some have even suggested that McAdoo would get serious consideration for OC in GB or maybe with Philbin. Rumored to be a very fast rising coach, with aspirations to be a head coach.

Patler
02-02-2012, 11:03 PM
Interesting commentary about Clements as OC in Buffalo;


In Clements’ first season as the offensive coordinator in Buffalo, the Bills increased their scoring output by 152 points and reduced their number of sacks allowed from 51 to 38, the fewest by the club since 1999. In 2005, QB Kelly Holcomb set a club record with a 67.4 completion percentage, surpassing Jim Kelly’s mark of 64.1 in 1991.

Bretsky
02-02-2012, 11:16 PM
GREAT NEWS; he will be a great fit with Russell Wilson after Green Bay drafts him :)

smuggler
02-03-2012, 01:05 AM
If Clements had that kind of impact as the OC of the Bills, why has he been working as GB's QB coach for so long?

gbgary
02-03-2012, 07:06 AM
for what it's worth, AR wanted clements. whatever AR wants, AR should get. wait...will this make him a big-headed prema donna?

denverYooper
02-03-2012, 08:06 AM
Interesting commentary about Clements as OC in Buffalo;

Maybe they'll score 44 ppg next year...

Patler
02-03-2012, 08:26 AM
If Clements had that kind of impact as the OC of the Bills, why has he been working as GB's QB coach for so long?

Clements lost his job when Buffalo fired their entire coaching staff the same year MM came to GB. As I recall, Clements was MM's last hire because he had interviewed for some OC positions, and he was waiting for decisions. When he didn't get any of those, he came to GB. Since then, the Bears wanted to interview him for OC, and MM denied permission. Don't know if that happened with any other teams or not. Clements was also one of the finalists interviewed for head coach at Notre Dame a few years ago, but didn't get it. I think he was considered for Penn State this year.

Might be just an issue of timing. If his contract had been up when the Bears were interested (most assistants operate under 2 year contracts) he might have been gone a while ago.

ND72
02-03-2012, 09:25 AM
Who would be surprised if Rich Gannon became the QB coach? :)

Willard
02-03-2012, 10:05 AM
Who would be surprised if Rich Gannon became the QB coach? :)
As long as you are considering former MVP QBs for the QB Coach, I know of one who is not currently working and knows the team......oh never mind....

Pugger
02-03-2012, 10:18 AM
Go over to packers.com and check out Clements' bio. Very impressive indeed.

Patler
02-03-2012, 10:30 AM
Who would be surprised if Rich Gannon became the QB coach? :)

I would be. I don't think MM looks at QB coach as an entry position into the coaching ranks, and I don't believe Gannon has any coaching experience.

smuggler
02-03-2012, 10:40 AM
Gannon is the shit, though.

vince
02-03-2012, 11:16 AM
In his Tuesday radio show, Rodgers mentioned the name Billy Joe Tolliver as a possibility for QB coach. He said that McCarthy has a long relationship with him and Rodgers was impressed with his knowledge.

smuggler
02-03-2012, 11:29 AM
That would be an interesting hire. ~.~

pbmax
02-03-2012, 11:31 AM
I would be. I don't think MM looks at QB coach as an entry position into the coaching ranks, and I don't believe Gannon has any coaching experience.

That would be the O line, right? :lol:

pbmax
02-03-2012, 11:31 AM
In his Tuesday radio show, Rodgers mentioned the name Billy Joe Tolliver as a possibility for QB coach. He said that McCarthy has a long relationship with him and Rodgers was impressed with his knowledge.

Wan't he a caddy for Brett one year? Or was that the other Billie Joe?

woodbuck27
02-03-2012, 12:03 PM
We expected that was the best and / or logical move. Good.

Patler
02-03-2012, 12:22 PM
That would be the O line, right? :lol:

Sure was for Campen, wasn't it? Not much between coaching high school and taking over the O-line in GB. Just two years QC and 1 year assistant O-line.

Patler
02-03-2012, 12:23 PM
Wan't he a caddy for Brett one year? Or was that the other Billie Joe?

I think it was training camp only. I don't think he ever made the roster in GB, did he?

vince
02-03-2012, 01:47 PM
I don't remember Tolliver ever being on the Packer roster, which doesn't mean he wasn't.

Rodgers said that Tolliver was being discussed as QB Coach back when Clements was hired and McCarthy likes him. He would have been McCarthy's backup QB in New Orleans I think. Rodgers said he's gotten to know Billy over the years and would like him as well, although he said he didn't know if it was even a remote possibility at this point.

Patler is right again, unless you added this last sentence to Wikipedia qucikly...


A graduate of Boyd High School and Texas Tech University, Tolliver was selected 51st in the 1989 NFL Draft by the San Diego Chargers. He started 19 games in two seasons at San Diego before being traded to Atlanta, where he saw playing time as a backup for three seasons. In 1994, he became one of three starting quarterbacks for Houston, then became the quarterback of the Shreveport Pirates during their final season of activity. After not seeing playing time in 1996, Tolliver played for both Atlanta and Kansas City in 1997. He then started 11 games for New Orleans in two seasons, but did not take the field in 2000. A stint with Green Bay in the 2001 offseason was the last stop in his professional career.

Fritz
02-04-2012, 12:46 PM
I never thought of Billy Joe Tolliver as a student of the game.

But maybe that's what happens when your parents name you "Billy Joe." I suppose if his name were "Reginald Tolliver III" I'd probably think he was a Rhoades Scholar.

Joemailman
02-04-2012, 12:51 PM
I never thought of Billy Joe Tolliver as a student of the game.

But maybe that's what happens when your parents name you "Billy Joe." I suppose if his name were "Reginald Tolliver III" I'd probably think he was a Rhoades Scholar.

Rhodes Scholar.

swede
02-04-2012, 05:34 PM
Rhodes Scholar.

As long as he's not a Ray Rhodes scholar.

pbmax
02-05-2012, 09:04 AM
As long as he's not a Ray Rhodes scholar.

He is still trying to get that fixed.

gbgary
02-05-2012, 01:34 PM
did someone say rhodes' collar?

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