Is Tom Brady the Rightful NFL MVP?

[SnakeLH2006]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ycn-10925226
Is Tom Brady the Rightful NFL MVP?

By Charles Joel (http://contributor.yahoo.com/user/944352/charles_joel.html),




In a year that Aaron Rodgers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7200/) broke Peyton Manning's (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4256/) single-season passer rating, threw 45 touchdowns and only 6 interceptions and led a practically defenseless Packers team to a historic 15-1 record, Skip Bayless is still campaigning for Tom Brady (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5228/) as the rightful MVP.
Here's an excerpt from Skip's Peabody Award winning, The Screaming Contrarian:





* Skip Bayless on ESPN First Take: "OK, so Aaron Rodgers led the consensus Super Bowl favorite to 15-1, what else is new? … I think it was the worst defense Belichick has put on the field. If you take away Brady, you've got the Indianapolis Colts (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/ind/) this year. That's how bad they are. Brady had to consistently overcome his defense in ways that Rodgers benefited because the Packers led the NFL in takeaways." Personally, I think Brady will likely finish third in the MVP race, because 2011, which will be remembered as the year of the quarterback, also featured a Drew Brees (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5479/) eruption. Brees broke Dan Marino's long-standing passing yards in a single-season mark and his own completion percentage record. And while Bayless' argument that the New England Patriots (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nwe/) had no defense is almost justifiable against Brees and his Saints, there was actually a team ranked lower than the Patriots defensively this season: the Packers.
Green Bay was weighed down by the shackles of the worst defense in the NFL and Rodgers was forced to overcome the worst passing defense in the history of football—the Packers gave up 300 yards a game.
So, let's consider their offensive numbers:
* Aaron Rodgers: COM PCT: 68.3 YARDS: 4643 TD: 45 INT: 6 QB RAT: 122.5
* Drew Brees: COM PCT: 71.2 YARDS: 5476 TD: 46 INT: 14 QB RAT: 110.6
* Tom Brady: COM PCT: 65.6 YARDS: 5235 TD: 39 INT: 12 QB RAT: 105.6
Basically, Rodgers was more accurate and threw six more touchdowns and six less interceptions, while playing one fewer game. Brady had a phenomenal season and would win MVP almost any other year, but with Rodgers and Brees playing at an even higher level in 2011, Brady's prospects of winning NFL MVP are grim.
Unlike the other two gunslingers, however, Tom Brady still has a chance of taking home the Lombardi Trophy, which I am certain a competitor like Brady would prefer, anyway.


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Ummm...Brady is elite. Brees was great...but Arod tore the books up going 14-1...with the best qb rating EVER with the worst D.


Food for thought: If Arod threw the 191 MORE passes Brees threw this season he would have had 60 passing TD's and nearly 6000 yards. True Dat..

[Joemailman]

If they don't give the awards to Rodgers, they are basically penalizing him for being so good in the first 3 quarters of games that the Packers didn't throw much in the 4th quarter.

[denverYooper]

The Patriots haven't beaten the Giants in the playoffs yet, either.

[Pugger]

This award is for the REGULAR SEASON and in the regular season Rodgers was better than Brady.

[MJZiggy]

That's the dumbest piece of bullshit logic I've ever heard.

Edit: the story, not you, Pugger.

[Pugger]

That's the dumbest piece of bullshit logic I've ever heard.

Edit: the story, not you, Pugger.

Anything that includes Skip Clueless is a dumb piece of bullshit logic! :lol:

[Patler]

Bayliss' commentary:

* Aaron Rodgers: COM PCT: 68.3 YARDS: 4643 TD: 45 INT: 6 QB RAT: 122.5
* Drew Brees: COM PCT: 71.2 YARDS: 5476 TD: 46 INT: 14 QB RAT: 110.6
* Tom Brady: COM PCT: 65.6 YARDS: 5235 TD: 39 INT: 12 QB RAT: 105.6
Basically, Rodgers was more accurate and threw six more touchdowns and six less interceptions, while playing one fewer game. Brady had a phenomenal season and would win MVP almost any other year, but with Rodgers and Brees playing at an even higher level in 2011, Brady's prospects of winning NFL MVP are grim.
Unlike the other two gunslingers, however, Tom Brady still has a chance of taking home the Lombardi Trophy, which I am certain a competitor like Brady would prefer, anyway.
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So, lets apply that logic to the 2010 season when Brady DID win MVP and lost in the playoffs, where as Rodgers DID NOT win MVP, but did win the Super Bowl:

Aaron Rodgers: COM PCT: 65.7 YARDS: 3922TD: 28 INT: 11 QB RAT: 101.2
* Drew Brees: Who cares?
* Tom Brady: COM PCT: 65.9 YARDS: 3900 TD: 36 INT: 4 QB RAT: 111.0

Rodgers played in 15 games in 2010, but didn't play much against Detroit when he left with the concussion.

To paraphrase the same comparison Bayliss did for this year, and apply it to last year:

Basically, Brady was no more accurate than Rodgers and threw eight more touchdowns and seven less interceptions, while playing two more games. Rodgers had a phenomenal season in 2010.
Unlike Brady, however, Aaron Rodger DID take home the Lombardi Trophy, which I am certain a competitor like Rodgers preferred, anyway.

By Bayliss' logic, perhaps Rodgers was the real MVP in 2010, not Brady.

[Fritz]

It's all a joke. How can one say who a most valuable player is in a sport that depends so entirely upon teamwork?

Maybe you can do it in basketball, but not in football.

[denverYooper]

Maybe Vince Wilfork should be the MVP. He's the main reason they moved past the Ravens.

[pbmax]

I can just feel that I will not like this offseason. Not at all.

[Smidgeon]

I can just feel that I will not like this offseason. Not at all.

Why's that?

[SkinBasket]

We need to stop quoting guys who's job it is to take an opposing stance to someone else on a daily basis for a television show. Sometimes, they need to do the best they can with little in the way of statistics or common sense to fill their bit. I know a lot of people think he's a doofus, but it's kind of his job.

[gbgary]

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[swede]

The rent's too freaking damn high.


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[pbmax]

Why's that?

1. Because 15-1 and no Super Bowl is just an invitation to take shots, both warranted and unwarranted.
2. And without a Super Bowl trump card, its more work to defend the team's actual strengths and weaknesses from buffoons.

So we are going to get a lot of psychoanalyzing of the Packers failure, including my favorite pundit trick, mind-reading. The only thing going for this offseason is that there was a glaring weakness on the 15-1 team, so at least the focus will be on the correct side of the ball. Unless you are named Skip.

[woodbuck27]

This award is for the REGULAR SEASON and in the regular season Rodgers was better than Brady.

Yup.

[pbmax]

Wonder who Skip thinks should get the MVP now?

[denverYooper]

Wonder who Skip thinks should get the MVP now?

I guess we can close the book on that Brady argument.

[Pugger]

I won't watch that clown but I'm sure Clueless will make some sorry ass excuse for Brady. He'll blame NE's receivers for dropping those passes in the 4th but probably didn't do the same for Aaron in the divisional playoff game...

[denverYooper]

Nah, he'll just argue that Eli deserved it.

[gbgary]

48-2 with no votes for brady is a pretty definitive, backboard shattering, dunk on his pumpkin head.

[Lurker64]

Skip Bayless is just a contrarian for the purposes of attention (often in the form of "ratings.")

It's best just not to pay attention to him, it's what he wants.

[Iron Mike]

No, he is not.....

http://myinstants.com/instant/sad-trombone/

[Freak Out]

To answer the question......Fuck no!

[Smeefers]

I've seen this argument used someplace else before, but I can't remember by whom so I can't give proper credit. It goes a little something like this:
Arod's passer rating was 12 points higher than Brees. That's the same difference between manning and Andy Dalton. Or Andy Dalton and and Curtis Painter. Aaron was simply dominant this season. There's a reason it was a landslide win.

[sheepshead]

Bill Parcells always said this about his teams, "you are what you are"
Same thing goes for end-of-season honors.

[denverYooper]

Tom Brady can't fucking throw the ball and catch the ball.

[woodbuck27]

Hey Patler? Should Charles Haley be in the HOF or not?

Kevin Greene NOT in is IMO 'a snub". Look at WR Tim Brown and his solid numbers with 21 different NFL quarterbacks in his career and add 3,320 punt return yards. Maybe, some here will agree on candidate Chris Carter and 'no ring' and the HOF.

It's up to the players team fans to help provide a lobby maybe?

[MJZiggy]

Tom Brady can't fucking throw the ball and catch the ball.
He he he...

[RashanGary]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbiC1GhbfNo

[RashanGary]

I'd vote Tebow.

[Upnorth]

Jon Ryan for MVP!

So what are the chances Arod gets another?
If his line improves and our receiver corp stays put I bet he would be an even payout in Vegas. Brees would probably be second, and if the two were close I think Brees wins due to three tremendous years in a row.

[Gunakor]

Look at WR Tim Brown and his solid numbers with 21 different NFL quarterbacks in his career and add 3,320 punt return yards. Maybe, some here will agree on candidate Chris Carter and 'no ring' and the HOF.


There was a gentleman's agreement amongst HOF voters that Art Monk would be the very last WR ever inducted into the Hall. And they were very reluctant to even let Monk in.

Seriously, I don't know what it is about WR's but it's tremendously difficult for those guys to find their way into the Hall. There's a bunch of deserving guys at that position that have been waiting forever and may never get in.

[gbgary]

skip is bradying now...

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[smuggler]

Rodgers QB rating in the 4th quarter of games wherein the score was within 7 points one way or another was MORE THAN 145.

The next closest was Eli Manning ~115 or so.

In short, NO. If Brady didn't have Gronkowski, he wouldn't have even made the playoffs.

[Pugger]

Rodgers QB rating in the 4th quarter of games wherein the score was within 7 points one way or another was MORE THAN 145.

The next closest was Eli Manning ~115 or so.

In short, NO. If Brady didn't have Gronkowski, he wouldn't have even made the playoffs.

Learning this now I find annoying that the talking heads for days before the SB would all declare Eli was the top QB in the league in the 4th quarter. :no: