Official Super Bowl XLVI Game Day Thread

[Joemailman]

Unlike some of our more emotionally distraught 'rats, I'm looking forward to this game. There should be more scoring than the game 4 years ago. I like the Patriots in this one. I think the Giants defense has gotten a little too much credit for their win over the Packers. The Packers self-destructed in some ways that had little to do with what the Giants were doing to them defensively.

Call it Patriots 27 Giants 23

[MadtownPacker]

You must have dipped into a package with a powdery white substance. NE played Tebow after he shot his load vs the Steelers and was not the better team vs the Ravens IMO. The giants ripped up the Pack in GB and withstood the Niners sick defense. They had the tougher road and survived. I say NY wins and we all talk about how it should have been the Pack for the next 6 months.

[pbmax]

I am hoping for a tie and that somehow the playoff OT rules blow up in the league's face. Not that I am bitter or anything ...

[Bretsky]

Hoody Genius will have to pull one out of his @ss to defeat the Giants IMO; on paper the Giants are superior.
How the Pats will cover the Giants WR's in beyond me. Nicks was not there for the last game; he makes their WR core as good as any. This year Hoody Genius did as good of a coaching job as anybody in the NFL. NE is really not that good and Green Bay would blow that secondary up for unlimited points. Unfortunately our defense also sucked so bad it might have been the first Super Bowl with over 100 combined pts.

I gotta think Talent outdues the Genius today.


Giants 20
Pats 27

Tynes hits the game winner with with under 60 seconds left....heck....maybe as time expires

[esoxx]

Giants 20
Pats 27

Tynes hits the game winner with with under 60 seconds left....heck....maybe as time expires

Why is Tynes kicking a FG down 27-17?

[Brando19]

I think Bretsky meant Giants 30-27. I like the Giants in this one. The Pats defense sucks and Gronkowski's hurt...I doubt he plays the entire game. Giants 34 Patriots 21

[Bretsky]

Why is Tynes kicking a FG down 27-17?

Crap...

Giants 30
Pats 27

[Bretsky]

The Pats and Packers, as I noted long ago, have a ton of similarities

Explosing offense
A OL that you hope hangs on but is grossly overmatched by the NYG DL
Horseshit Defense that needs turnovers to be successful
Minimal Pass Rush

Hoody will have to bring a genius game plan to win this one; I don't know how he stops all those weapons w/o a pass rush and below average secondary

[ThunderDan]

Pats by 17. Back to a yawner Super Bowl where the commercials will be the talk at work on Monday.

[Bretsky]

I'd be surprised if it isn't close

Brady > Manning
Giants RB > NE Running Backs
Giants WR >NE WR's
Pats TE > Giants TE
OL vs OL.....unsure

Giants DL > Pats DL
Giants DB > Pats DB

Hoody must devise a scheme that confuses Eli with a mixture of zone coverages and blitzes
Brady must have a great game

I expect the above two things to occur so I'm thinking this one is close

[Fosco33]

Giants 27
Pats 24

Pats go up early and lead at half. Giants pressure finally gets to Brady and Gronk is useless in 2nd half. Manning goes and gets it in the 4th.

[pbmax]

The Pats and Packers, as I noted long ago, have a ton of similarities

Explosing offense
A OL that you hope hangs on but is grossly overmatched by the NYG DL
Horseshit Defense that needs turnovers to be successful
Minimal Pass Rush

Hoody will have to bring a genius game plan to win this one; I don't know how he stops all those weapons w/o a pass rush and below average secondary

Pat's D, like the GI Ants has gotten better as they got healthier. Hoody got two starters back in the last month and it made a difference (on LB and one DB).

[pbmax]

A compilation of cliches from ESPN Sportscenter that must include the NFL Live crew, because this compilation reads exactly like one of their programs.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/02/04/sports/football/a-compilation-of-sportscenter-cliches.html?src=dayp

[Pugger]

If the Pats do what we couldn't - not drop passes or fumble the ball - they can win this. I don't really care. It is hard for me to get excited about this game because I have no real regard for either franchise. :neutral:

[pbmax]

Bill Belichick writeup from a beat writer during his Cleveland days in the Official Bretsky Errata thread, good read:

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?23625-Official-Bretsky-Errata-thread-for-pbmax&p=652886&viewfull=1#post652886

[MadtownPacker]

Goodbye Championship banner, we are mortal again........

[red]

fuck this stupid mother fucking game

it's not really taking place

i'll only be watching it in the hopes that i'll see some old white shriveled tit at halftime

[denverYooper]

Goodbye Championship banner, we are mortal again........

Hopefully it makes a young Packers team hungry and they take the next 2.

[denverYooper]

I'm just suspicious because the Giants are getting so much love. I heard on Friday that a lot of money from the pros was coming in heavy on Pats at the end of the week. Belicheck is a mad mad genius and he comes back to claim that mantle today with another SB victory.

32-23 Pats.

[denverYooper]

Anyone pick up Rodgers talking about the Giants' "gamesmanship" in the GB-NYG game?

[denverYooper]

Bill Belichick writeup from a beat writer during his Cleveland days in the Official Bretsky Errata thread, good read:

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?23625-Official-Bretsky-Errata-thread-for-pbmax&p=652886&viewfull=1#post652886

Chris Brown had a nice article on Wilfork and the Belichick Hybrid D.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7537225/bill-belichick-vince-wilfork-new-england-patriots-defense

[MJZiggy]

Aaron's very comfortable there. Don't get too comfy Aaron. Next year this time you'll need to be working.

[Fosco33]

While not sitting on the edge of my seat with anticipation - I'll take Super Bowl Sunday over just about any Sunday afternoon between Feb-May from a sports perspective (except NCAA Tourney).

Should be a good game

[Fosco33]

Aaron's very comfortable there. Don't get too comfy Aaron. Next year this time you'll need to be working.

His acceptance speech yesterday highlighted where he really wanted to be tonight....

[Bretsky]

Bill Belichick writeup from a beat writer during his Cleveland days in the Official Bretsky Errata thread, good read:

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?23625-Official-Bretsky-Errata-thread-for-pbmax&p=652886&viewfull=1#post652886


Good Writeup

Hey, we have 20 freebies on JS

JS....aka....my favorite writer McGinn...had a great article on the Genius today and compared the NE way up with TT and Ron Wolf

If Hoody could actually draft like TT these guys would never lose. While's he's the greatest coach we've ever seen, and he orchestrates a ton of great draft day trades, as an evaluator of talent he is lacking. If he'd hit on a greater percentage of picks trying to defeat Hoody Genius would be scary to defeat

[Bretsky]

LOVE the Tunes NE gets introduced to

Here comes Hoody

[pbmax]

Old Navy ad fail. Resthave been humdrum. no idea why Hyundai was singing The Theme from Rocky

[pbmax]

Anyone pick up Rodgers talking about the Giants' "gamesmanship" in the GB-NYG game?

What was the context? Did he elaborate?

[pbmax]

Difference between NE D and Packers D so far? Tackling and one ILB.

[red]

i hope our front seven is watching and taking notes on how to get pressure and how to shed blocks

[red]

Difference between NE D and Packers D so far? Tackling and one ILB.

that shed that spikes had was something i can't remember seeing from our ILB for quite some time

[pbmax]

OK. Liked the Audi/vampire ad.

[pbmax]

that shed that spikes had was something i can't remember seeing from our ILB for quite some time

Yep, exactly what I meant, though to be fair Bishop often can run through those.

[red]

really audi? i mean seriously?

you're going to go after the preteen chick market by jumping on the vampire bandwagon a couple years too late?

[gbgary]

love that call.

[pbmax]

2-0 start. Lotta squares winner will be surprised if this score holds through the 1st quarter.

OK, Elton John and clock guy from Public Enemy. Liked that.

[pbmax]

really audi? i mean seriously?

you're going to go after the preteen chick market by jumping on the vampire bandwagon a couple years too late?

The vampires were wiped out Red. That ad was for the girls Dads!

[pbmax]

2-0 start. Lotta squares winner will be surprised if this score holds through the 1st quarter.

OK, Elton John and clock guy from Public Enemy. Liked that.

Flavor Flav. How could I forget?

That tackle looked like Packer CBs.

[gbgary]

The vampires were wiped out Red. That ad was for the girls Dads!

yup!!

[pbmax]

Ladies and Gentleman, NFC is better than the AFC.

[pbmax]

What was Mayo doing?

[gbgary]

hell...first quarter's almost over. lol

[gbgary]

let's see what ne has up their sleeves for their second play in the game.

[pbmax]

Chevy Apocalypse ad is OK.

Where is everyone?

[MJZiggy]

Ladies and Gentleman, NFC is better than the AFC.
Sure looks like it so far...

[gbgary]

too much eye liner on danika. was that gay?

[red]

OMG, advertising at its finest

combining bud and the natural

brilliant

[pbmax]

too much eye liner on danika. was that gay?

Nope. But the body paint model was a little fuzzy.

[gbgary]

vw commercial was good with the late, great, james brown music. new bug has the engine in the front btw.

[Bretsky]

godaddy.com always has the top commercial

[Bretsky]

Nicks is a beast

I sure am glad Red insisted on trading me Nicks instead of Jennings :)

[Bretsky]

Dear Packers; that is how you tackle a RB

[pbmax]

On the other hand, watching these two defenses, the Packers are at most a player or two and a play or two a half from a championship caliber defense again.

[pbmax]

Beckum with a torn ACL. Badger receivers have had that a lot.

[gbgary]

Beckum with a torn ACL. Badger receivers have had that a lot.

leg was locked when he planted. that'll snap one in split second.

[MJZiggy]

So the Sonic makes people do stupid shit?

[pbmax]

Is Solder in for Tollmer? I thought Tollmer was going to start?

[MJZiggy]

I just read that Beckum went to the same high school I did.

[pbmax]

At this point of the game, if the Pats score, the Giants will wonder how they don't have a bigger lead. Actually, I am wondering that now.

[pbmax]

JPP looked like Clay Matthews there

[pbmax]

Outplayed all half and the Patriots have a one point lead. Most likely.

[pbmax]

I think Collingsworth is wrong. JPP wasn't in coverage, he might have been covering QB draw?

He was definitely in pass rush, looked at Brady and then ran to middle.

[Bretsky]

Did you know ?

In the year Hoody Genius drafted Gronkowski and A Hernandez twice he moved in front of the Ravens to get the TE's he wanted

The Ravens ended up with Dixon (junk) and more junk as they selected TE's with both picks.

[red]

Did you know ?

In the year Hoody Genius drafted Gronkowski and A Hernandez twice he moved in front of the Ravens to get the TE's he wanted

The Ravens ended up with Dixon (junk) and more junk as they selected TE's with both picks.

so, you're saying that sometimes it IS worth it to trade up?

[MJZiggy]

Goodbye Championship banner, we are mortal again........

It looks so empty... :(

[MJZiggy]

What the hell is that????

[red]

so everyone is so worried about another wardrobe malfunction. but where do they place some of the cameras?

right in the perfect spot to catch multiple crotch shots

we're all very lucky that madonna wasn't free balling it tonight

[The Shadow]

Madonna appears to be about as limber as Betty White.

[red]

so you get a big star like madge because she has had a shitload of hits

so what do you do?

make her go all american idol and sing a bunch of shit from other people

worst halftime i can remember IMO

they should have just let her sing her shit, she still sounds decent

[red]

cee-lo was just lip synching

[Gunakor]

cee-lo was just lip synching

So was Madonna.

[MJZiggy]

Well that was weak, overproduced, overhyped shit.

[Bretsky]

I thought the HF show was solid and better than most in past years

[pbmax]

Bring back Prince!

[Bretsky]

You have an extended amount of time at halftime giving time for the best of the best to make adjustments
You get the ball to open the second half and try to take control
What other coach would you want than Hoody Genius in that situation ?
TD NE

[Bretsky]

Skin to Win
We want JJ

[Bretsky]

BOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[Upnorth]

I hope thew giants beat the patriots. I don't dislike the pat's, its their fans. They remind me of bears fans.

[Fosco33]

wow - nice hit on Nicks. He looks 'off'.

Big difference between either of these teams and the Pack - drops and tackling. Yeah - pretty big issues to resolve...

[pbmax]

Did you know ?

In the year Hoody Genius drafted Gronkowski and A Hernandez twice he moved in front of the Ravens to get the TE's he wanted

The Ravens ended up with Dixon (junk) and more junk as they selected TE's with both picks.

Gronk was 2nd round. Ravens then took Sergio Kindle who nearly killed himself after the draft walking down stairs.

Dickson was the Ravens pick in Round 3. Hernandez was Round 4, and the Ravens took Dennis Pitta after them.

Its hard to argue against Newsome's draft record even versus Hoody. Unless you need a QB.

[The Shadow]

Bring back Prince!

No, Madonna wasn't THAT bad!

[pbmax]

Proof a 3 man rush works. Even versus Brady.

[pbmax]

Oh Hello Michelle Beadle.

[pbmax]

Memo to league WRs and RBs. You are not Walter Payton. Everyone is looking to strip rather than tackle from a distance so stop carrying the ball like its a lof of bread.

\get off my lawn

[Bretsky]

Gronk was 2nd round. Ravens then took Sergio Kindle who nearly killed himself after the draft walking down stairs.

Dickson was the Ravens pick in Round 3. Hernandez was Round 4, and the Ravens took Dennis Pitta after them.

Its hard to argue against Newsome's draft record even versus Hoody. Unless you need a QB.


Honestly, it's tough to argue Hoody is good at the evaluation of talent
He's the best coach in the history of the NFL
He makes a lot of nice draft day trades and finds free agents to sign that always help his team
But his draft picks are fortunate to be called average

[pbmax]

5 FGs. That is not a good sign.

[Bretsky]

Bretsky predicated an end of game FG by the Giants to win it all; after I'm right you can just call me the Greek.......lol

[pbmax]

That was an ungood decision.

[Bretsky]

wife is going for the Giants and I'm going for NE
interesting watching this SB with her

[pbmax]

Apropos of nothing, I downloaded a program called Stellarium from Source Forge, an open source project to give you a laptop program for identifying objects in the sky from wherever you are on the planet.

It works beautifully and my kids are outside looking at Venus and Jupiter as I watch the Super Bowl. :)

[pbmax]

That's the girl that presented with Rodgers last night. Star of Smash.

[pbmax]

Eli is terribly inaccurate whenever he has to throw at less than 110% velocity.

[MJZiggy]

Eli is terribly inaccurate whenever he has to throw at less than 110% velocity.
But he's been really accurate when he does slam it.

[pbmax]

But he's been really accurate when he does slam it.

Yeah, its weird. He also doesn't seem top have trouble with screens or check downs. Essentially, you don't want to have him throw an intermediate route.

[pbmax]

Brady was looking for a place to fall down after he went left.

[pbmax]

Only way Urlacher is going to get back to Super Bowl Sunday :lol:

[MJZiggy]

Ok, I like Samsung well enough, but geez.

[Bretsky]

very key third down here
Hoody has to know he can't leave it to the D

[Bretsky]

2 more First Downs and this game might be over

[Bretsky]

NOTE ON THE REVERSES

The Giants often overpursue

They reverses and screens have kept them a bit off balance

[pbmax]

That looked familiar. A wrong footed receiver open in the Giants secondary

[Bretsky]

Eli Time

[pbmax]

Unbelievable

[pbmax]

OOB

[pbmax]

I lied. Its a catch.

[pbmax]

Another first and NE will need to use TO. And Bretsky will look like a savant.

[Bretsky]

This is game over

[Bretsky]

Another first and NE will need to use TO. And Bretsky will look like a savant.


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[Bretsky]

They should let them score the TD

[gbgary]

can't believe ne is letting the clock disappear.

[pbmax]

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[Bretsky]

my wife hates Tom Brady because he left his pregnant hot girlfriend for another hottie

[pbmax]

Oh, I think Al is right, they let him score and he fell in. If he stops, game over.

[Bretsky]

Ahmad Bradshaw just ruined my prediction !!!

[pbmax]

57 and a TO

[pbmax]

Should have squibbed it.

[easy cheesy]

OH HELL YEAH!!!!

[pbmax]

Has JPP been back at all since he left with injury?

[Bretsky]

Brady needs to start making that throw

[pbmax]

Took his eyes off it.

[pbmax]

Tuck went right around Mankins.

[easy cheesy]

GIANTS!

[pbmax]

Wow. Nice play. JPP was in for that play.

[easy cheesy]

NEW YORK FOOTBALL GIANTS... G- MEN... BIG BLUE....FUTOM....FUBELLI...FU....FU....FU ELITIST FU**S....GO GIANTS

[pbmax]

I thought the rebound was going to Hernandez.

EDIT: Would have bounced to Gronk, not Hernandez.

[easy cheesy]

THIS ONE IS FOR WELLINGTON!!!

[Bretsky]

ALL HAIL JERRY REECE

[Fosco33]

Well... not unexpected. Manning is just so dumb - that the pressure doesn't get to him. Can't believe the Pats pulled a 'Packer' and let them score. Hoody Genius? Even more surprising was that the Giants missed the 'fall'. Poor execution.

[Fosco33]

On the 12th man penalty - why didn't the clock go back to :17 seconds?

[pbmax]

On the 12th man penalty - why didn't the clock go back to :17 seconds?

That has been debated before but they haven't done anything about it.

[pbmax]

Ray Berry needs a better rug.

[pbmax]

I think that was Letterman's stage director Biff Henderson who just kissed the trophy.

[easy cheesy]

THIS ONE IS FOR WELLINGTON!!!

NOT ONLY FOR WELLINGTON BUT FOR TOM!!! ELI RAWKS!

[Upnorth]

I am now convinced that if it weren't for the slip up against the Giants we would have won the SB. Yeah consolation prize!!!
Do we play NYG in 2012? If so opening game I bet.

[easy cheesy]

NOT ONLY FOR WELLINGTON BUT FOR TOM!!! ELI RAWKS!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7CIgWZTdgw

[Kiwon]

Giants #20, Prince Amukamara, is a classless idiot, spitting on the Lombardi Trophy.

Terrible post-game coverage by NBC.

[HarveyWallbangers]

On the 12th man penalty - why didn't the clock go back to :17 seconds?

Why would it go back to 17 seconds?

[Joemailman]

I am now convinced that if it weren't for the slip up against the Giants we would have won the SB. Yeah consolation prize!!!
Do we play NYG in 2012? If so opening game I bet.

Yep. Packers play at the Giants.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I find the Patriots extremely boring to watch. Seems like 90% of their plays are pass plays that travel no more than 5 yards down field. Brady is one of the best ever, but he really is a glorified dink and dunker.

[Brando19]

Why would it go back to 17 seconds?

That's when the penalty occurred.

[easy cheesy]

Bitter Bitches.... great new band I heard in Ripon....

[Fosco33]

Why would it go back to 17 seconds?

Think about it this way - why not always play 12 (or 12+) guys on defense if the offense will lose time if they accept. Then with 00 seconds - it's only one play left since you can't end on def penalty.

Guess it's not a dead ball penalty...

[HarveyWallbangers]

That's when the penalty occurred.

And? It's not like it's a false start.

[Kiwon]

I was waiting for a 18-17 final score.

Maybe 3 people on planet earth would have predicted that one.

[pbmax]

And? It's not like it's a false start.

Because you can do it repeatedly to waste the clock and prevent the O from getting somewhere. The only protection is the Ref calling an unsportsmanlike penalty, yielding 15 yards and a new first down.

[pbmax]

Giants #20, Prince Amukamara, is a classless idiot, spitting on the Lombardi Trophy.

Terrible post-game coverage by NBC.

Why did he spit?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Because you can do it repeatedly to waste the clock and prevent the O from getting somewhere. The only protection is the Ref calling an unsportsmanlike penalty, yielding 15 yards and a new first down.

Theoretically, it sounds good. Except you keep giving the offense at extra 5 yards and chances at competing the play anyways. It's not like a play hasn't been made against 12 men before. Coaches are never going to do that on purpose. I'm not sure Brady could have gotten it to the end zone without those 5 extra yards. He's kind of a noodle arm.

[Freak Out]

Pretty boring game IMHO.....meh.

[Freak Out]

Ray Berry needs a better rug.

Yep....I thought it was coming off at one point.

[Kiwon]

Why did he spit?

Because he is a idiot. He's the guy that mussed up Raymond Berry's hair and shook his shoulders when he passed by with the trophy. That's disrespect #1. Then he leans in and on national television spits on the Lombardi Trophy. That's disrespect #2. Brainless and classless.

It's stupid to have this habit on walking the trophy through the players on the way to the podium. In the excitement of everything there's no telling what they will do for the camera. The trophy belongs to the team owner. He should get first possession of it. After the presentation, then hand it off to the players for their celebration.

[Freak Out]

Bunch of narcissistic bitches out there....phone videos of themselves? Chumps....show some class.

[pbmax]

Theoretically, it sounds good. Except you keep giving the offense at extra 5 yards and chances at competing the play anyways. It's not like a play hasn't been made against 12 men before. Coaches are never going to do that on purpose. I'm not sure Brady could have gotten it to the end zone without those 5 extra yards. He's kind of a noodle arm.

Two or three times to force a hail mary is easy to envision and execute. I would rather face the noodle arm on a hail mary with 7 seconds left than give him 15 more yards to drive with 30 seconds more to do it.

[pbmax]

Because he is a idiot. He's the guy that mussed up Raymond Berry's hair and shook his shoulders when he passed by with the trophy. That's disrespect #1. Then he leans in and on national television spits on the Lombardi Trophy. That's disrespect #2. Brainless and classless.

It's stupid to have this habit on walking the trophy through the players on the way to the podium. In the excitement of everything there's no telling what they will do for the camera. The trophy belongs to the team owner. He should get first possession of it. After the presentation, then hand it off to the players for their celebration.

Shaking Raymond Berry I can understand. Same with tossling his hair. But still unclear on why he would spit. Not saying he didn't, but it seems incongruous with the other two actions. What is fun about spitting on the trophy?

[pbmax]

All in all, I am OK with the Giants winning. it helps support my contention that the NFC is, and has been, the better conference. But also because Patriots fans (esp. Brady fans) are some of the most irrational folks I have ever met. Giants fans are like Yankee fans. Very good front runners and keep quiet when they are down. No problem with the Giants fans I know.

[easy cheesy]

All in all, I am OK with the Giants winning. it helps support my contention that the NFC is, and has been, the better conference. But also because Patriots fans (esp. Brady fans) are some of the most irrational folks I have ever met. Giants fans are like Yankee fans. Very good front runners and keep quiet when they are down. No problem with the Giants fans I know.

+1

[Pugger]

I know several Patriot fans down here and most of them are insufferable. Brady makes me gag so I shed no tears for that bunch. This wasn't a fun game for me. Every time those damn Giants got a first down I felt so sad wishing that was US in that game instead of them. :-(

[MadtownPacker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrvkB3pK8lg

[Harlan Huckleby]

Pretty boring game IMHO.....meh.
it was better than about 80% of Super Bowls.

I didn't care who won, as long as Tom Brady lost.

That Giants rb (Bradshaw?) was a major dummy for not getting on ground before endzone. Guess instincts got best of him.

[denverYooper]

What was the context? Did he elaborate?

Mentioned them faking injuries when GB would start to establish a rhythm.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I find the Patriots extremely boring to watch. Seems like 90% of their plays are pass plays that travel no more than 5 yards down field. Brady is one of the best ever, but he really is a glorified dink and dunker.

ya, I never watch Patriots games when they are whupping-up on somebody. Brady is so damn boring and surgical.

[Joemailman]

Honestly, it's tough to argue Hoody is good at the evaluation of talent
He's the best coach in the history of the NFL
He makes a lot of nice draft day trades and finds free agents to sign that always help his team
But his draft picks are fortunate to be called average

Really? What trophy is named after him?

[easy cheesy]

***YAWN*** Brady- irrelevant.... Eli- Ring ... end of story....

[pbmax]

Mentioned them faking injuries when GB would start to establish a rhythm.

They are well known for that. Pulled that stunt early in the year to get a free TO late in a close game when two of the same guys hit the turf "injured".

[easy cheesy]

Nice job Giants

[Kiwon]

Shaking Raymond Berry I can understand. Same with tossling his hair. But still unclear on why he would spit. Not saying he didn't, but it seems incongruous with the other two actions. What is fun about spitting on the trophy?

I guess you didn't see it on NBC's coverage because I couldn't disagree more. No, a 22-year old rookie doesn't get to put his hands on and rustle a nearly 79-year old Hall of Famer and mess up his appearance as he is carrying out his official duties on live television. Spitting on the trophy was equally stupid. Both acts are dumb and disrespectful of the game.

[pbmax]

I guess you didn't see it on NBC's coverage because I couldn't disagree more. No, a 22-year old rookie doesn't get to put his hands on and rustle a nearly 79-year old Hall of Famer and mess up his appearance as he is carrying out his official duties on live television. Spitting on the trophy was equally stupid. Both acts are dumb and disrespectful of the game.

No I did not see it. Nor am I stating that any act was respectful.

But I can envision a 22 year old kid mistakenly thinking he was having fun with the older player when he pats him on the back and ruffles his hair. I don't expect him to have the good sense to not act when he doesn't know how old or frail the player might be.

The same kind of behavior and interaction went on when they introduced this maneuver last year. It was obvious by the way the line is setup and filmed that the network and the NFL want the players to interact with the trophy's march. If it didn't happen to Starr (or whoever it was last year) it was inevitable. Someone is going to want to do something different and bolder. Just look at the cameras they were all carrying this year. Biff Henderson was there for Pete Rozelle's sake.

What doesn't make sense even in my broader context is the spitting. What is the joy or fun in that? Its a rhetorical question and I don't expect the viewers to know. But I hope someone asks him about it.

[Kiwon]

No I did not see it.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/watch-vince-lombardi-trophy-way-gauntlet-giants-050425554.html?ugccmtnav=v1%2Fcomments%2Fcontext%2 F6467498d-aa35-38a7-ab51-bb60d192aa98%2Fcomments%3Fcount%3D20%26sortBy%3Dmo stReplied

Here's a link to the video. Watch it and see if you see what I think I saw. #20, early in the clip.

One blog said he blew a kiss. Maybe he did. But the first time I saw it, it sure looked like spitting to me.

I will say though that Raymond Berry looks good for being almost 79. I bet most of those guys haven't a clue about who he is.

[KYPack]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/watch-vince-lombardi-trophy-way-gauntlet-giants-050425554.html?ugccmtnav=v1%2Fcomments%2Fcontext%2 F6467498d-aa35-38a7-ab51-bb60d192aa98%2Fcomments%3Fcount%3D20%26sortBy%3Dmo stReplied

Here's a link to the video. Watch it and see if you see what I think I saw. #20, early in the clip.

One blog said he blew a kiss. Maybe he did. But the first time I saw it, it sure looked like spitting to me.

I will say though that Raymond Berry looks good for being almost 79. I bet most of those guys haven't a clue about who he is.

He blew a kiss to the trophy. I don't think he was disrespecting Raymond. He patted him on the back and mussed his hair. That's just making him feel like one of the boys.

i could be wrong, but I didn't think was done with any evil intentions when I saw it the first time.

[Patler]

He blew a kiss to the trophy. I don't think he was disrespecting Raymond. He patted him on the back and mussed his hair. That's just making him feel like one of the boys.

i could be wrong, but I didn't think was done with any evil intentions when I saw it the first time.

A 20 something year old kid mussing the hair of an 80 year old Hall of Famer is disrespectful, in my opinion, not making him feel like one of the boys. Besides, he doesn't need to be made to feel like one of the boys, he had a career most of them will never get close to.

Of course, I think the whole "worship the trophy" procession is sort of stupid.

[Pugger]

A 20 something year old kid mussing the hair of an 80 year old Hall of Famer is disrespectful, in my opinion, not making him feel like one of the boys. Besides, he doesn't need to be made to feel like one of the boys, he had a career most of them will never get close to.

Of course, I think the whole "worship the trophy" procession is sort of stupid.

this

[pbmax]

Of course, I think the whole "worship the trophy" procession is sort of stupid.

This.

Though I am less than upset about his attempt to be playful with Berry. There is almost no way he knows who Berry is. The better question is why do sober, adult minds put a 79 year old in that situation in their planning meetings? Starr (was it Starr last year?) at least seemed steady on his feet. I did not think Berry was going to make it up the steps.

[ThunderDan]

Pats by 17. Back to a yawner Super Bowl where the commercials will be the talk at work on Monday.

Boy do I suck at predicting games this year.

I thought all the luck that got the Giants to the Super Bowl would finally catch up with them. Instead the Giants played a great game. A couple of balls bounced the right way but nothing like past games. Eli played a hell of game. He deserved the MVP this time.

[Little Whiskey]

He deserved the MVP this time.

I'm not quite so sure. I would argue that brady played better than eli. the problem is they don't select a MVP, they just give an award to the winning team's qb. If the last second hail mary lands in a Patriot players' lap, Brady would be the MVP instead of Manning.

[Fosco33]

Giants 27
Pats 24

Pats go up early and lead at half. Giants pressure finally gets to Brady and Gronk is useless in 2nd half. Manning goes and gets it in the 4th.

I wasn't that far off...

Pats led at half, Gronk was useless, Brady was a bit more flustered in 2nd half and Manning went and got it in the 4th.

[pbmax]

Deadspin has the video of the 12 man Giant prevent defense, but the takeaway is that the 12th guy is Tuck, running full speed off the field toward the top of the screen with his helmet off. If it was a purposeful call, it was great acting and timing by Tuck.

http://deadspin.com/5882607/did-the-giants-put-12-men-on-the-field-on-purpose-for-bradys-first-hail-mary

[mmmdk]

I had a great SB evening and a good game it was too! I thought Hoody would preveil but NY Giants are true Champions and much in the manner that GB Packers won last season. Packers are # 1 in my eternal book but I have a ton of respect for the G-Men. :bow:

CONGRATS NEW YORK GIANTS SB CHAMPS XLVI

[swede]

I really can't hate the Giants. What are you going to do when their receivers and quarterback hook up over and over again in an effort to belabor the point that the game is literally a game of inches. In the case of the Giants, fractional parts of inches. How many times in the NFC cold game did Eli's ball miss getting swatted and tipped only to drop precisely into Plaxico's fingertips while two feet dragged the last bit of green in the field? Until their last Super Bowl victory did we know a receiver could catch a ball against his helmet and hang on while dropping to the ground? And they were up to their old tricks again this post-season.

I don't know why I loathe the Patriots and tolerate the Giants. It has something to do with the tuck play in the Pat's case, and it may be, in the second case, that I don't know any Giants fans who annoy me.

[KYPack]

A 20 something year old kid mussing the hair of an 80 year old Hall of Famer is disrespectful, in my opinion, not making him feel like one of the boys. Besides, he doesn't need to be made to feel like one of the boys, he had a career most of them will never get close to.

Of course, I think the whole "worship the trophy" procession is sort of stupid.

I, uh, disagree with you boys.

The kid didn't spit on the trophy, he blew it a kiss. Mussing Raymond's hair, I think it was a good-natured gesture & you guys are being PC about it or something.

I really wonder why Ray Berry was selected as the trophy bearer. He beat the Giants asses in the '58 finale. The trophy carrier should have been Frank Gifford or Phil Simms or somebody.

[pbmax]

I, uh, disagree with you boys.

The kid didn't spit on the trophy, he blew it a kiss. Mussing Raymond's hair, I think it was a good-natured gesture & you guys are being PC about it or something.

I really wonder why Ray Berry was selected as the trophy bearer. He beat the Giants asses in the '58 finale. The trophy carrier should have been Frank Gifford or Phil Simms or somebody.

He did coach the Patriots.

[MJZiggy]

Next time they can just prop Al Davis up. He'll have been dead for a year and a half, but how would you tell the difference?

[Joemailman]

This.

Though I am less than upset about his attempt to be playful with Berry. There is almost no way he knows who Berry is. The better question is why do sober, adult minds put a 79 year old in that situation in their planning meetings? Starr (was it Starr last year?) at least seemed steady on his feet. I did not think Berry was going to make it up the steps.

Wasn't it Staubach? Host team gets to choose I guess. Next year Archie walks through the Packers.

[MadtownPacker]

I can't hate, Eli is a tough, clutch SOB even though he looks like he should be working at a fast food joint.http://deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/irsburger.png

[Gunakor]

(was it Starr last year?)

It was Roger Staubach last year. The game was played at Jerry World so they wanted a Cowboy legend. Just like they picked Raymond Berry this year since the game was being played in Indianapolis. Starr will get to carry that trophy through the gauntlet when Lambeau Field hosts a Super Bowl.

[Little Whiskey]

Starr will get to carry that trophy through the gauntlet when Lambeau Field hosts a Super Bowl.

Good luck with that one.

[denverYooper]

Looking back, New York's receivers consistently made plays on the ball, even when the throw was off. Man, that group had a great run in the playoffs.

[denverYooper]

They are well known for that. Pulled that stunt early in the year to get a free TO late in a close game when two of the same guys hit the turf "injured".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY26rgd4aps

[denverYooper]

The more I think about Aaron's comment, the more I think he's gaming the gamesmanship. I don't know if it will have the effect he'd desire, but I bet he wouldn't mind a stricter penalty being enforced on the injury faking. I don't know that he'd get a much better platform than Superbowl pregame to attempt such a thing.

[pbmax]

The more I think about Aaron's comment, the more I think he's gaming the gamesmanship. I don't know if it will have the effect he'd desire, but I bet he wouldn't mind a stricter penalty being enforced on the injury faking. I don't know that he'd get a much better platform than Superbowl pregame to attempt such a thing.

Quite possible, as I don't recall the Giants falling to the ground like leaves in the Packers game.

[woodbuck27]

Greg
You must have dipped into a package with a powdery white substance. NE played Tebow after he shot his load vs the Steelers and was not the better team vs the Ravens IMO. The giants ripped up the Pack in GB and withstood the Niners sick defense. They had the tougher road and survived. I say NY wins and we all talk about how it should have been the Pack for the next 6 months.

One of the most outstanding runs in any NFL season for the once 7-7 NY Giants to capture this Super Bowl. Any Packer fan with half a brain should have been pulling for the GIANTS to win the prize after humiliating us in Lambeau Field.

I felt it, could really feel it coming and I got all wrapped up in the psyche game and psyched myself out. I awoke Monday morning hating that I went againsy simple analysis that the NY GIANTS would overcome all the NE Pat's and TOM BRADY and Bill Bilichick hype. Damn those silly talkin' heads. IGNORE them and go with your analysis. Go with your guts. Forget the it's their turn BS logic sort of logic.

IMO these are major factors in sidelining the PAT's chances.

a)The loss of TE Grokowski and all his productivity really hurt Tom Brady's chances of moving the sticks.
That put added pressure on Wes Welker. His productivity was only in the 60n yard range. TE Fernandez did as i expected produce in Gronkowski's absence of effectiveness.

FLASHBACK !!

See Our #2 WR or was he #1 ...Jordy Nelson and the fella that calls his number OUR teams HC Mike McCarthy !!?

Did Mike McCarthy think that Jordy Nelson's game would fall off with Jennings back? What happened in our playoff game in terms of those two McCarthy and Nelson? Were they on any page? Even hurt, Gronkowski was targeted and made one inspiring catch. Remember that catch and how did you feel after seeing that catch?

Mike McCarthy? Now there's a mystery??

Sorry for the diversion..................

b)Maybe? Tom Brady wanted it too badly !?

c) Maybe? All the late week bad press (Buffalo Uhh!?) might have annoid Brady and he lost his cool?

IN FINAL ANALYSIS.

In early December the New York GIANTS were in Dallas and down 12 points late in the fouth quarter of a MNF game. I had Dallas in my Pro Pickem'. I said to my gal. Got that one in the bag let's hit the sack. I turned the game off but somehow went back to it. Low and behold .... Tom Coughlan and Eli Manning were performing Magic ! The GIANTS looking dead in the water came a long ways back to salt down the Cowboys..secure a huge comeback win. The GIANTS began to believe in one another. They were inspired by a great Head coach, Tom Coughlan.A future HOFer now. A HC with tremendpus earned respect now. Tom Coughlan was the man. He made each GIANT player believe in the possible. That they could play better football.

After that late game setback and challenge in Dallas on that MNF game the GIANTS realized just how important that comeback was and could be!

THE GIANTS never let down from there and got on the momentum wave. It's a huge wave towords deciding outcomes.

Didn't we see that and PACKERS in last seasons playoffs and Super Bowl? A victory comes out of the dressing room.

A victory is inspired by team leaders and most importantly a HEAD COACH with the REAL stuff in him to inspire that 'we must win', attitude. The 'IT' factor.

Does Mike Mccarthy have that 'IT' factor?

GO PACKERS!

[Joemailman]

A victory is inspired by team leaders and most importantly a HEAD COACH with the REAL stuff in him to inspire that 'we must win', attitude. The 'IT' factor.

Does Mike Mccarthy have that 'IT' factor?


Did you miss the 2010 season?

[pbmax]

Nelson targeted 7 times. Jennings 7 times. Nelson had 3 catches to Gronk's two. Perhaps the QB and WR need to find a way to complete and catch more than 50% of the targets against a good NY Giants D.

[easy cheesy]

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/420130_363162193695329_100000046552689_1470405_121 5814369_n.jpg

[Pugger]

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/420130_363162193695329_100000046552689_1470405_121 5814369_n.jpg

:lol:

[Gunakor]

Does Mike Mccarthy have that 'IT' factor?



I dunno, maybe. What do you think?

http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/the-huddle/2011/03/04/mccarthyx-large.jpg

[easy cheesy]

I love the fact that the Giants website had the balls to "accidentally" put this up the day before the game... WHOOPS! LOLZ!

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/big-blue-wins-team-website-article-1.1017141

[pbmax]

I dunno, maybe. What do you think?

http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/the-huddle/2011/03/04/mccarthyx-large.jpg

It all depends on the pahticilars.