Meet "VINNY"...........future OLB Stud

[Bretsky]

Not sure if this is the guy I'll profess to be the next Brooks Reed........but here's a guy I think will outperform where he's drafted...my guess......round two

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2J5VLik4VI

[Bretsky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AcNSHVWYM4&feature=related

[Bretsky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRJ5rmmbxjs&feature=related

[Joemailman]

Curry is the guy I've been think of as the Packers 2nd round pick. Fletcher Cox in the 1st.

[Upnorth]

And with a Bretsky draft thread the off season is officially here.

[denverYooper]

Curry is the guy I've been think of as the Packers 2nd round pick. Fletcher Cox in the 1st.

I would be happy with those picks as well.

[red]

yup, curry is someone that i have been looking at for a few weeks now

he seems to have that certain nastiness to him that i would love to have on the team

although i have seen some mocks that do have him falling to us in the second, i'm really worried about him not lasting that long

[Bretsky]

Stop taking the Packer Pills; IMO this is a guy who is going in the top 45 picks. Said the same thing about Brooks Reed last year. Everybody said nab him at end of round two because he was not worthy of a 1st round pick. I say bullshit......... Some said trade down or trade up from round two........I can buy into that. I just don't think he's there at pick 56.

This dude has intensity; he showed some great flashes at the Senior Bowl. Seems to have a great first step getting off the ball. Love the intensity and motor.....lots of natural ability. Looks like a football player.

I will keep reading and searching; not endorsing the dude fully yet but he sure has looked like a playa in what I've found so far

[Joemailman]

Stop taking the Packer Pills; IMO this is a guy who is going in the top 45 picks. Said the same thing about Brooks Reed last year. Everybody said nab him at end of round two because he was not worthy of a 1st round pick. I say bullshit......... Some said trade down or trade up from round two........I can buy into that. I just don't think he's there at pick 56.

This dude has intensity; he showed some great flashes at the Senior Bowl. Seems to have a great first step getting off the ball. Love the intensity and motor.....lots of natural ability. Looks like a football player.

I will keep reading and searching; not endorsing the dude fully yet but he sure has looked like a playa in what I've found so far

You may be right. We'll see what happens at the Combine. Keep in mind though that this may be a stronger draft than last year with a record number of underclassmen declaring. That could push a guy like Curry down further than where Brooks was picked last year.

[Bretsky]

You may be right. We'll see what happens at the Combine. Keep in mind though that this may be a stronger draft than last year with a record number of underclassmen declaring. That could push a guy like Curry down further than where Brooks was picked last year.


I hope you are right;

[Joemailman]

DraftTek.com, which breaks down their rankings based on the type of defense a team plays, has Curry ranked 7th among 3-4 OLB's. http://drafttek.com/2012-NFL-Draft-Prospect-Rankings/Top-34-Outside-LBs.asp Hopefully, it's a strong year at that position, which was not the case last year.

[George Cumby]

Every time I hear about some underclassman from the offensive side of the ball declare, I get warm and fuzzy.

My rationale being it pushes defensive talent down the board. Is this faulty logic on my part? I feel like I am missing something......

[Upnorth]

George, if their is a team which values that players offensive abilities over other players defensive abilities then it is not flawed. The only scary part is if these players turn into the BPA when TT is drafting and our first three rounds go WR, TE and RB.

[Fritz]

If Bretsky falls in love with this guy, his chances of bombing out increase. If I follow suit with the same guy, his chances of bombing out increase exponentially.

[Upnorth]

If Bretsky falls in love with this guy, his chances of bombing out increase. If I follow suit with the same guy, his chances of bombing out increase exponentially.
How do the guys JH likes turn out?

[Fritz]

Like JH.

[Bretsky]

http://www.wvmetronews.com/marshall.cfm?func=displayfullstory&storyid=51198

[smuggler]

DraftTek.com ... http://drafttek.com/2012-NFL-Draft-Prospect-Rankings/Top-34-Outside-LBs.asp.

Based on this site, BPA will probably be Dontari Poe, who I am sort of crushing on.

[SkinBasket]

Based on this site, BPA will probably be Dontari Poe, who I am sort of crushing on.

If he fell that far, I would thoroughly enjoy that pick. Pickett won't live forever and a Poe Raji front would be sexy.

[Deputy Nutz]

Based on this site, BPA will probably be Dontari Poe, who I am sort of crushing on.

Why, because he ran real fast? I don't see how a 40 time for defensive linemen is going to move a guy 2 rounds in a draft, I think he would be a value in the late second and into the 3rd round. I wouldn't call him fat for a guy at 350 pounds but he didn't look real athletic, he kind of walks with his toes pointed out like a duck.

[Fritz]

Nutzy, you go from perceptive and smart to critiquing a guy because he walks like a duck.

You're so crazy inconsistent. love it.

[smuggler]

Why am I crushing on him, or why does the site have him listed at 28 overall?

I'm crushing on him because he's a huge guy who's not all flab, who can run and is pretty quick. The only downside is he's not long.

I assume the site has him 28th overall based on some form of subjective analysis, which includes his nice 40 time. Actually, not. They still have RG3 going 4th overall to the Browns. Everyone knows that will not happen, so (the Mock at least) hasn't been updated since the Combine.

It's academic anyway, since Poe will almost certainly not make it past the Texans, who are really hurting for a NT.

[mraynrand]

Why, because he ran real fast? I don't see how a 40 time for defensive linemen is going to move a guy 2 rounds in a draft, I think he would be a value in the late second and into the 3rd round. I wouldn't call him fat for a guy at 350 pounds but he didn't look real athletic, he kind of walks with his toes pointed out like a duck.

If he can rush the passer, get him in there, pointy duck toes and all

https://evbdn.eventbrite.com/s3-s3/eventlogos/102981/aflacduck.jpg

[mraynrand]

Every time I hear about some underclassman from the offensive side of the ball declare, I get warm and fuzzy.

My rationale being it pushes defensive talent down the board. Is this faulty logic on my part? I feel like I am missing something......

logical...flawlessly logical

http://www.loudmurmurs.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/spock2.gif

[wist43]

Every time I hear about some underclassman from the offensive side of the ball declare, I get warm and fuzzy.

My rationale being it pushes defensive talent down the board. Is this faulty logic on my part? I feel like I am missing something......


George, if their is a team which values that players offensive abilities over other players defensive abilities then it is not flawed. The only scary part is if these players turn into the BPA when TT is drafting and our first three rounds go WR, TE and RB.


logical...flawlessly logical

I'm with UN, beware of what you wish for... if the top rated player on TT's board is offense - we're getting an offensive player. It's that simple.

[Deputy Nutz]

Poe isn't long and that bothers me for a defensive end in a 3-4, same reason why I don't like Raji and Pickett at defensive end. I like bigger defensive ends in the 3-4 with longer arms. I think if the Packers drafted Poe and teamed him with Raji and Pickett, you have three nose tackles. Space eaters for sure, but the Packers also need to get after the QB and that isn't why you would draft a guy like Poe, he might get you 2 or 3 sacks a year but he is a run stuffer, and that is basically why I am ignoring his forty time.

Nobody has said anything about Jared Crick from Nebraska, I just watched the Washington game here on youtube, and I gotta tell I love how he using his hands and his technique both at holding the point in the running game and rushing the passer. At one point he was rushing inside and felt he was going to get washed down and hit a beautiful spin move to relign himself with the qb and caused the pressure. He has some speed but he is your answer as a 3-4 defensive end. Some injury concerns, tough senior year with nagging injuries, and he plays a bit high at times but because he uses his hands so well he doesn't get in to much trouble.

Check it and wreck it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKVYAHmx9EU&feature=player_detailpage

[Smidgeon]

I appreciate the analysis, Nutz. I don't know anything about college football or what to look for, but I like learning.

[cheesner]

I appreciate the analysis, Nutz. I don't know anything about college football or what to look for, but I like learning.

It's simple really as long as you have a background in waterfowl pediatry.

[Bretsky]

http://www.conferenceusa.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/071811aad.html

[Joemailman]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFL-Draft-Who-plays-fast-on-tape.html

At this time of year, everyone is talking about how fast draft prospects are based on 40-yard dash times. Three months ago, everyone was talking about how fast draft prospects were based on game tape. And there is a difference. With that in mind, I asked front office men to recount who were the fastest draft prospects they saw on tape. Some of their answers might surprise you.

Vinny Curry, Marshall DE. 40 time—4.98. His 40 time was puzzling because scouts say he explodes off the edge and shows excellent speed in games. Curry is a player who merits further examination.

Will Curry's 40 time cause him to drop into the 40's overall? Gil Brandt I believe had him at 41.

[wist43]

Curry is the guy I've been think of as the Packers 2nd round pick. Fletcher Cox in the 1st.

I took a look at Cox - liked what I saw. Doesn't have much burst or closing speed, a one-gear pass rusher; but he's decent at everything, takes good angles, has good instincts.

[wist43]

Not impressed with Curry... he needs a lot of coaching. He might have some upside if a good DL coach gets a hold of him, but unless he learns some technique and learns how to use his hands, he's gonna struggle.

[smuggler]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKVYAHmx9EU&feature=player_detailpage

He gets 4 pressures and a coverage/motor sack in this video. He looks weak in the run game. One pressure was because a guard thought it was a run call.