Franchise Tag Period

[Joemailman]

Franchise tag period begins today and runs through March 5.

http://blogs.greenbaypressgazette.com/blogs/gpg/insider/2012/02/20/franchise-period-begins-today/

NFL.com reported these franchise tag numbers and the difference from the last two seasons:

Quarterback: $14.4 million (down from $16.1 million in 2011, $16.4 million in 2010)

Running back: $7.7 million (down from $9.6 million in 2011, $8.2 million in 2010)

Wide receiver: $9.4 million (down from 11.4 million in 2011, $9.5 million in 2010)

Tight end: $5.4 million (down from $7.3 million in 2011, $5.9 million in 2010)

Offensive line: $9.4 million (down from $10.1 million in 2011, $10.7 million in 2010)

Defensive end: $10.6 million (down from $13 million in 2011, $12.4 million in 2010)

Defensive tackle: $7.9 million (down from $12.5 million in 2011; it was $7 million in 2010)

Linebacker: $8.8 million (down from $10.1 million in 2011, $9.7 million in 2010)

Cornerback: $10.6 million (down from $13.5 million in 2011; tag was $9.6 million in 2010)

Safety: $6.2 million (down from $8.8 million in 2011, $6.5 million in 2010)

[KYPack]

JMF's agent made some noises last week that if Fin was tagged as a TE, they would appeal to an arbitrator. His contention was that Fin had more snaps as a WR & should be tagged as such.

For one thing, I didn't know an arbitrator was a part of the NFL process.

[Freak Out]

TE is the low man on the Totem Pole so I can't blame him.

[Pugger]

JMF's agent made some noises last week that if Fin was tagged as a TE, they would appeal to an arbitrator. His contention was that Fin had more snaps as a WR & should be tagged as such.

For one thing, I didn't know an arbitrator was a part of the NFL process.

I think he's gonna lose that appeal. Its estimated he lined up 54% of the time as a TE.

[red]

if fin wants to be paid like a wr, then i say pay him like a wr

a number 3 wr on the team who had 55 catches for 750 yards or so with 8 td's and 28 drops

we gave james jones like 2 or 3 mill a year for that role with that type of production last offseason

[Upnorth]

What about for punter? Or long Snapper? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Little Whiskey]

It appears that the recession has hit the NFL.

[gbgary]

if fin really did have more snaps at wr than his agent probably has a case and that's bad for the Pack. i find that hard to believe though.

[wpony]

I say tell his agent if he wants to get paid as a wr he should hold on to the ball like a wr and not let it slip threw his fingers so much. then we would have no problem giving him the big bucks

[KYPack]

I think he's gonna lose that appeal. Its estimated he lined up 54% of the time as a TE.

Thx, Pug.

Where'd ya get that info?

I've been looking for a particpation log. They used to have those things at several sites, but I can't find 'em anymore

[smuggler]

You know who else lined up as a WR a lot in the NFL? Running back Marshall Faulk. A running back. Finley would lose that appeal, but he won't even get the appeal heard in the first place.

[ThunderDan]

It appears that the recession has hit the NFL.

I would love to dig up the old threads on how with a new CBA player salaries would still go up and up and up. Or maybe it was the $1,000,000,000 owner take away thread.

[Bretsky]

I heard on the NFL Network Finley's agent was exploring this with the NFL and argues Finley played sixty percent of the snaps at WR. It's kind of unprecedented and I thought if that hit the GB media Finley could get flogged in the local press after his subpar performance this year

[pbmax]

I heard on the NFL Network Finley's agent was exploring this with the NFL and argues Finley played sixty percent of the snaps at WR. It's kind of unprecedented and I thought if that hit the GB media Finley could get flogged in the local press after his subpar performance this year

Finley's contention has been covered quite a bit, so I don't think his agent putting a number on it changes the coverage much.

I know there have been more cases, but the two I can remember involved DE/OLBs. Ware and Suggs perhaps? I remember one as a loss for the player and the other that resulted in a negotiated settlement as prelude to a FA deal. Its an interesting question because as a WR, he isn't worth that tag. But he might eventually get that kind of money.

[Smeefers]

He has miles to go to get top WR money. His hands, route running and speed need a lot of work... well, pretty much everything.

Man, where did his agent come up with 60 percent? That's an awful lot of lining up out wide. Considering the packers pass on about 70% of the plays, that means he only lines up as a TE during 10 % of the passing plays. That's not a whole lot. Me thinks his agents numbers might not be right.

[Pugger]

Thx, Pug.

Where'd ya get that info?

I've been looking for a particpation log. They used to have those things at several sites, but I can't find 'em anymore

I don't know if these are reliable sources or not:

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4717/jermichael-finley

http://www.sportsoverdose.com/nfl-players/jermichael-finley

http://www.fantasyfbassistant.com/tag/jermichael-finley/

[Smidgeon]

if fin really did have more snaps at wr than his agent probably has a case and that's bad for the Pack. i find that hard to believe though.

Even if he had more snaps split out wide, how many starting TEs never split out wide? A TE snaps in today's game will be split between inline and wide. He's definitely a TE. How many WRs line up inline with the offensive linemen and are asked to block or chip before going out on a route? Or stay in and block the entire time? To me, it's a ridiculous claim that he should have WR money. Do your job, son, and you'll get paid via a long term deal.

[KYPack]

Even if he had more snaps split out wide, how many starting TEs never split out wide? A TE snaps in today's game will be split between inline and wide. He's definitely a TE. How many WRs line up inline with the offensive linemen and are asked to block or chip before going out on a route? Or stay in and block the entire time? To me, it's a ridiculous claim that he should have WR money. Do your job, son, and you'll get paid via a long term deal.

Pug's sources look pretty good to me. He lined up at inline Y 54% of the time. He was a TE. How about this deal. JMF lines up at inline Y. Then, he goes in motion and runs a pass route as the equivalent of a WR. Then, he drops the pass he was targeted for.

Which side of his free agent ledger does that play go on?

[red]

so lets just say for arguments sake that they decide fin is a wr not a TE.

do you still franchise him, or do you let him walk?

he didn't play like a 10 million dollar man last season, that's for sure

[pbmax]

so lets just say for arguments sake that they decide fin is a wr not a TE.

do you still franchise him, or do you let him walk?

he didn't play like a 10 million dollar man last season, that's for sure

If it fits under your cap plan, then yes, you do. There are no guarantees other than the one year and you know he wants more than $9.4 million in cash. He has already been injured and missed significant time. I think he would still bite on a long term deal even with the WR cap figure.

[Zool]

If he makes a big stink and doesnt sign the TE franchise tag, let him sit.

[Pugger]

If he makes a big stink and doesnt sign the TE franchise tag, let him sit.

But is Finley an UFA or RFA?

[smuggler]

Before he was signed, he was a UFA, because he'd been a player for four seasons. He was a rookie in 2008.