Matt Flynn, Top 15 QB

[Smidgeon]

Aaron Rodgers said that Matt Flynn will be a Top 15 QB.

At first, to me, that sounded like damning praise. After all, he didn't say Top 5 or Top 10, and there are only 32 starters on every given Sunday (although up to 40--a guess--may start in a year).

That being said, the Top 15 QBs are usually relatively entrenched as starters, so maybe it's better praise than I at first thought, no matter how much like hedging it sounded like at first.

Let's say Rodgers is right and Flynn is Top 15. Who are the other 14 QBs on that list, and does his company on that list mean that he's worth a big contract?

[woodbuck27]

I would think the Aaron Rodgers is implying that Matt Flynn is at least a Top 15 Starting QB in the NFL.

[sharpe1027]

My view is that it was pretty high praise for how few starts he has. Rodgers didn't say he couldn't become a top 5 QB. Not sure on the list but a few candidates are:

Brees
Brady
Rodgers
E. Manning
P. Manning
Roethlisberger
Rivers
Ryan
Newton
Vick
Romo
Schaub
Flacco
Dalton
Stafford

[woodbuck27]

How Matt Flynn will fare as a starting NFL QB will depend largely on the team he signs with and that teams ability to supply him with a solid OL and offensive weapons.

[sheepshead]

Since at least 15 teams start each season not knowing who their starter at QB is each year, Id say that's a pretty safe bet.

[gbgary]

i think arron slotted him correctly.

[Packers4Glory]

On the right team Flynn could out play a few of those guys on that list.

Not on that list, but Sam Bradford is a guy who could be a top 10 or 5 guy some day if he had anything around him.

[woodbuck27]

The word today is that the Miami Dolphins are keeping a close watch not only on Peyton mannings moves but also Matt Flynn as they cannot risk Matt Flynn slipping away from them as a starting QB option.

There's some concern that the Seattle Seahawks might scoop Matt Flynn out from under the noses of the Miami Dolphins. The jury is still out on whether or not matt Flynn is the real deal. Evidence of that as the TRUTH has to be Bill Philbins response to Peyton Manning.

If Philbin loves Matt Flynn why wait on Peyton Manning and all that will come with that signing?

The Peyton Manning ensemble. LOL Any gurantee to satisfy?

[Packers4Glory]

because he's Peyton effing Manning. IF he's right, you're odds at winning just went way way up.

Apparently Manning wants nothing to do w/ Seattle so they will def turn their attention elsewhere.... whether its Flynn or not remains to be seen.

[woodbuck27]

because he's Peyton effing Manning. IF he's right, you're odds at winning just went way way up.

Apparently Manning wants nothing to do w/ Seattle so they will def turn their attention elsewhere.... whether its Flynn or not remains to be seen.

because he's Peyton effing Manning. IF he's right, you're odds at winning just went way way up. Packers4Glory

Exactly. That is where Joe Philbin is pinned. He's salivating 'only' for Peyton Manning and at best today for the Miami Dolphins Matt Flynn is just a maybe.

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/13/matt-flynn-talking-to-browns-dolphins/

Matt Flynn talking to Browns, Dolphins

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 13, 2012, 10:02 PM EDT
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This year’s best free-agent quarterback has narrowed down his choices to four teams (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/13/report-peyton-chase-down-to-four-teams/). This year’s second-best free-agent quarterback is currently talking to two teams.

Matt Flynn (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4949/matt-flynn), the former Packers backup quarterback, is engaged in contract talks with the Browns and Dolphins (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-matt-flynn-miami-dolphins-free-agency-20120313,0,9834.story), the South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports.

The Browns are interested in bringing in a quarterback to replace Colt McCoy (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5699/colt-mccoy) as the starter, and Flynn would be a sensible option. Cleveland isn’t in the Peyton Manning (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1493/peyton-manning) sweepstakes and was beaten out by the Redskins in the Robert Griffin III (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7406/robert-griffin-iii) derby. If the Browns don’t land Flynn, that’s another step toward another season of McCoy as the starter.

The Dolphins signing Flynn makes a lot of sense because he and new head coach Joe Philbin spent four years together in Green Bay. But the Dolphins are in the Peyton Manning sweepstakes, and as long as that’s the case, they’re not going to sign Flynn.

If Flynn wants to sign with a team that is ready to make him its starter, Cleveland might be his only option right now.

[sheepshead]

http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/24629/Report--Browns-not-pursuing-Matt-Flynn/Default.aspx

Holy Crap, could be back as our backup?? :-P

[woodbuck27]

http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/24629/Report--Browns-not-pursuing-Matt-Flynn/Default.aspx

Holy Crap, could be back as our backup?? :-P

Why would the team come a calling?

[Pugger]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/13/matt-flynn-talking-to-browns-dolphins/

Matt Flynn talking to Browns, Dolphins

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 13, 2012, 10:02 PM EDT
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/m-flynn2.jpg?w=178 Getty Images
This year’s best free-agent quarterback has narrowed down his choices to four teams (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/13/report-peyton-chase-down-to-four-teams/). This year’s second-best free-agent quarterback is currently talking to two teams.

Matt Flynn (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4949/matt-flynn), the former Packers backup quarterback, is engaged in contract talks with the Browns and Dolphins (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-matt-flynn-miami-dolphins-free-agency-20120313,0,9834.story), the South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports.

The Browns are interested in bringing in a quarterback to replace Colt McCoy (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5699/colt-mccoy) as the starter, and Flynn would be a sensible option. Cleveland isn’t in the Peyton Manning (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1493/peyton-manning) sweepstakes and was beaten out by the Redskins in the Robert Griffin III (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7406/robert-griffin-iii) derby. If the Browns don’t land Flynn, that’s another step toward another season of McCoy as the starter.

The Dolphins signing Flynn makes a lot of sense because he and new head coach Joe Philbin spent four years together in Green Bay. But the Dolphins are in the Peyton Manning sweepstakes, and as long as that’s the case, they’re not going to sign Flynn.

If Flynn wants to sign with a team that is ready to make him its starter, Cleveland might be his only option right now.

Not anymore.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8279773e/article/browns-reportedly-not-in-running-for-qb-flynn?module=HP11_headline_stack

[Fritz]

Wow. He's not sounding very popular right now. His new nickname could be "Homeless" Matt Flynn.

[mraynrand]

Flynn has slipped in my estimation. I am thinking he will be a top 16 QB, not a top 15.

[Joemailman]

Flynn has slipped in my estimation. I am thinking he will be a top 16 QB, not a top 15.

Haters will hate.

[woodbuck27]

Not anymore.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8279773e/article/browns-reportedly-not-in-running-for-qb-flynn?module=HP11_headline_stack

If i was Matt Flynn's agent I would advise the he aims to get signed somewhere and get 'just ready' to work out with that team and try to be the NO. 1 QB.

Having written that we all know that the very quiet (flat) FA thing for Matt Flynn could turn into something more promising $money$ wise suddenly. The situation that Miami has created for itself has me scratching my head given that that franchise seemed so hot to get Peyton Manning.

It looks like they elected to go into full blown rebuilding mode after trading WR Brandon Marshall for two third round picks. There doesn't seem much urgency there to win now.I believe that trade cost that franchise any chance for Peyton Manning.

Is Matt Flynn anymore likely to end up in Miami? IMO the answer is NO.

I hate to see this young man end up a career backup QB.

[woodbuck27]

Dolphins turning their focus to Flynn

Posted by Mike Florio on March 15, 2012, 6:29 PM EDT
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/m-flynnhandoff-e1331563466684.jpg?w=250 Reuters

A week ago, the Miami Dolphins didn’t want to flirt with Matt Flynn (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/08/with-all-focus-on-peyton-dolphins-not-even-thinking-about-flynn/). Now, they’re getting ready to propose.

Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that, with Peyton Manning (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1493/peyton-manning) increasingly unlikely to take his talents to his South Beach condo, the Dolphins are expected to pursue Flynn aggressively.

Then again, the Dolphins may not get the chance.

Flynn will visit the Seahawks, beginning Thursday night and continuing into Friday.

If the Seahawks make Flynn an offer he can’t refuse, Flynn won’t be flying to South Florida.

Working in Miami’s favor is the connection between Flynn and Dolphins coach Joe Philbin, based on their four years together in Green Bay. As we’ve been saying for weeks, any lack of interest in Flynn by Philbin should be regarded as a gigantic red flag.

The interest previously wasn’t expressed because the owner had to once again swing for the fences.

In the end, it could be up to Flynn to salvage the possibility of something resembling joy in Mudville.

[woodbuck27]

Colt McCoy now favored to remain the Browns’ starting quarterback

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 16, 2012, 8:27 AM EDT
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/c-mccoyhandsineyes.jpg?w=144 AP

Browns President Mike Holmgren makes no secret that he wanted to draft Robert Griffin III (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7406/robert-griffin-iii) and was disappointed that the Rams rejected his trade offer (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/16/holmgren-gripes-about-griffin-trade/). But now that the Griffin ship has sailed, the Browns appear to be favoring another year with Colt McCoy (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5699/colt-mccoy) as the starter.

Holmgren said Thursday that he trusts in the system the Browns have in place and believes McCoy has plenty of room for growth in that system, especially with a full offseason this year.

“We will stick with our system (http://www.news-herald.com/articles/2012/03/16/sports/nh5238996.txt?viewmode=fullstory),” Holmgren said, via the News-Herald. “The big thing is learning the system. I think in the second year of the system you will see more productivity from the offense. We’re not going to change it, but it takes times to get good at it. If you can stick with your quarterback and you stick with the system and you stick with the coaches in the program, it works. You just have to trust me on that.”

Browns General Manager Tom Heckert is also talking up McCoy.

“We do think Colt has a big ceiling,” Heckert said.

“It’s my job to get better players surrounding him. After the season, we said we have to protect him better. We have to be able to run the football, which we did at times last year. If you look at the games when we ran well and protected well, Colt played very well. Colt has proven he can play in this league. As Coach Holmgren said, another year in the system and we get him better players, he has a chance to be really good.”

Of course, if the Browns really believed McCoy was a future elite quarterback, they wouldn’t have tried so hard to move up and draft Griffin. All the talk about McCoy’s high ceiling may be more about the Browns now resigning themselves to the fact that McCoy is the best they can do this year, after the Redskins out-maneuvered them for Griffin.

There are other options: There’s been talk of drafting Texas A&M quarterback Ryan Tannehill (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7417/ryan-tannehill) at No. 4 overall. The idea of drafting Oklahoma State’s Brandon Weeden (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7480/brandon-weeden) with the 22nd overall pick has also been floated, although Weeden is three years older than McCoy, so unless the Browns’ brass is blatantly lying when they say they think McCoy has a lot of room to grow, it’s hard to see why the Browns would think Weeden has a better future than McCoy does.

Giving McCoy another year as the starter would be less a statement that the team believes in him as the long-term answer than a statement that the team has no better answer.

But until they come up with a better answer, someone has to be the starter in Cleveland.

And right now it’s looking like that someone, for 2012, will be McCoy.

[Packers4Glory]

hope he signs in Seattle. They have more weapons than whatever Miami is doing.

[woodbuck27]

hope he signs in Seattle. They have more weapons than whatever Miami is doing.

Yes. Joe Philbin has to get moving if he really covets Matt Flynn and on the phone ...now.

It looks like they took a sudden turn away from Peyton Manning;where just last week all the talk in Miami was over the Dolphins securing his skills.

I felt that PM would go to the Denver Broncos but the tennessee titans really stepped in there with a solid lifetime opportunity. One that will have the NFL HO scrastching it`s head.

Matt Flynn.... I just hope he gets with a decent team to be a starter. I want him to do well. Right now it seems that Seattle has the best shot at Matt Flynn and maybe if he leaves Seattle without a contract Miami may have some opportunity for his skills. I don`t like Miami`s chances. I cannot come up with any sensable conclusionas to how the miami Dolphins have moved this week. They were a teampoised. On the doorstep to doing something big with Peyton Manning and they shot themselves in the foot in that regard IMO.

[TheRaven]

I can't blame the Browns (after missing on Griffen) for sticking with their incumbent starter. Colt is still young and still has some potential to grow. Flynn is also a young QB with potential to grow in the right situation. From the Browns perspective, they may as well stick with the young QB that knows their system.

That being said, just because I can understand their perspective, doesn't mean I agree with it. Matt Flynn has the tools to be a legit NFL starter and the team that takes a gamble on him to be one is going to be happy, presuming they surround him with the appropriate pieces to succeed.

[woodbuck27]

I can't blame the Browns (after missing on Griffen) for sticking with their incumbent starter. Colt is still young and still has some potential to grow. Flynn is also a young QB with potential to grow in the right situation. From the Browns perspective, they may as well stick with the young QB that knows their system.

That being said, just because I can understand their perspective, doesn't mean I agree with it. Matt Flynn has the tools to be a legit NFL starter and the team that takes a gamble on him to be one is going to be happy, presuming they surround him with the appropriate pieces to succeed.

Yes ! Matt Flynn will get his opportunity.

[ThunderDan]

Maybe we are seeing why TT couldn't tag and trade Flynn. With no "cost" to pay the Packers for Flynn, Flynn is still on the market.

[TheRaven]

Maybe we are seeing why TT couldn't tag and trade Flynn. With no "cost" to pay the Packers for Flynn, Flynn is still on the market.

True, I think it would have been difficult. I think a lot of teams would have been wary of having to give something of value while also signing him to a deal. It didn't work out too great for Arizona last year with Kolb, though we are only one year into that deal.

However, I think the main reason Flynn has taken longer is due to the sensation that occured with Manning. Initially, he became the focus for a lot of teams (even ones he never really considered) and it put them behind on seeking out other alternatives. With Luck and Griffen spoken for now and Manning soon to choose his destination, Flynn is about to be in the position of being the most attractive QB option left for any teams that are stilll scrambling to improve their QB situation.

[woodbuck27]

True, I think it would have been difficult. I think a lot of teams would have been wary of having to give something of value while also signing him to a deal. It didn't work out too great for Arizona last year with Kolb, though we are only one year into that deal.

However, I think the main reason Flynn has taken longer is due to the sensation that occured with Manning. Initially, he became the focus for a lot of teams (even ones he never really considered) and it put them behind on seeking out other alternatives. With Luck and Griffen spoken for now and Manning soon to choose his destination, Flynn is about to be in the position of being the most attractive QB option left for any teams that are stilll scrambling to improve their QB situation.

If Matt Flynn signs with another team what wil be our compensation É

[woodbuck27]

Concern in Miami that Flynn could sign with Seahawks today

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 16, 2012, 12:05 PM EDT
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/m-flynn.jpeg?w=146 Getty Images
With the Dolphins out (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/16/dolphins-exit-peyton-chase/) of the Peyton Manning (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1493/peyton-manning) sweepstakes, attention in Miami is turning to Matt Flynn (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4949/matt-flynn), who always seemed like a good fit because he learned coach Joe Philbin’s offense in Green Bay.

But there’s one problem:

Flynn is visiting Seattle first, and some folks in Miami are concerned that the Seahawks will make Flynn a great offer that convinces him to sign without even visiting the Dolphins.

Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reports, quoting an unnamed associate of Flynn, that Flynn signing with Seattle before he flies to Miami can’t be ruled out (http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/16/2696474/miami-dolphins-out-of-running.html).

Dave Hyde of the Sun Sentinel also writes that the big question right now is: whether the Dolphins can keep Flynn from Seattle (http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-matt-flynn-miami-dolphins-hyde-20120316,0,7070784.story).

Flynn could sign with the Seahawks as soon as today if Seattle makes him a great offer, and the Seahawks have plenty of money and cap space with which to do that, if they’re so inclined.

That would put the Dolphins in the position of not only missing out on their first choice (Peyton Manning), but also missing out on their fallback option (Matt Flynn).

It took a few days, but as Manning narrows his options, it appears that interest in Flynn is starting to heat up.

That’s not a good sign for the Dolphins.

[TheRaven]

If Matt Flynn signs with another team what wil be our compensation É

The knowledge that he had four solid seasons served as a backup to the [current] best QB in the league.

[woodbuck27]

Report: Dolphins make low-ball offer to Matt Flynn

Posted by Evan Silva on March 16, 2012, 12:58 PM EDT
http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/matt-flynn-pic1-e1331917062445.jpg?w=145 Reuters

Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports reports that the Miami Dolphins are “low-balling (https://twitter.com/#!/JasonColeYahoo/status/180691815459069952)” free agent quarterback Matt Flynn (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4949/matt-flynn) in contract negotiations.

The Dolphins’ thinking is apparently that Flynn wants so badly to play for head coach Joe Philbin, his offensive coordinator in Green Bay, that Flynn might be willing to settle for significantly less than market value.

Of course, market value for a quarterback with two career starts is ambiguous.

Kevin Kolb (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4151/kevin-kolb) signed a reported six-year, $65 million contract with the Cardinals last offseason after seven career starts. And that deal has already been considered for termination.

At the same time, the Dolphins don’t have much leverage.

Top free agent target Peyton Manning (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1493/peyton-manning) resisted their overtures, and the quarterback market is otherwise devoid of franchise-caliber signal callers.

Flynn is in a better spot, drawing interest from the Seattle Seahawks (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/16/concern-in-miami-that-flynn-could-sign-with-seahawks-today/).

Could the Fins miss out on Peyton Manning, and Matt Flynn, too?

It certainly seems like they’re willing to take that risk.

[Packers4Glory]

I said when Manning first got cut that Titan fans are happy. I felt like that's his destination all along. so we'll see. They just signed Hutchinson to shore up that line a little bit. We'll see how it shakes out.

I hope Miami blows it and Flynn goes to Seattle...or....AZ has a decision to make on Kolb. That wouldn't be a horrible landing place either if AZ wanted to go that route.

[woodbuck27]

The knowledge that he had four solid seasons served as a backup to the [current] best QB in the league.

Not even a box of chocolates.

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/17/matt-flynn-is-currently-at-the-dolphins-facility/

Matt Flynn is currently at the Dolphins’ facility

Posted by Evan Silva on March 17, 2012, 11:33 AM EDT

Comment woodbuck27:

Matt Flynn's father Alvin Flynn (a suspected Irish American) reported that his son enjoyed what he saw in Seattle but wanted to visit at least two NFL teams before signing a contract. That his son would make a 'prompt' decision.

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/18/dolphins-or-seahawks-matt-flynns-dad-says-decision-will-come-soon/

Dolphins or Seahawks? Matt Flynn’s dad says decision will come soon

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 18, 2012, 9:13 AM EDT

Comment woodbuck27:

With reports that Alex Smith will be going to look at Miami the plot thickens in the life of Matt Flynn again. Is his future so tied to other NFL QB's FA efforts. It seems so until he's finally inked that new NFL contract with some team NOT named Packers.

I wonder is TT pulling for him?

[woodbuck27]

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/18/2700207/miami-dolphins-meet-with-matt.html

Miami Dolphins meet with Matt Flynn, are considered favorites for QB
Read more here:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/18/2700207/miami-dolphins-meet-with-matt.html#storylink=cpy

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/18/flynn-picks-the-seahawks/related/

Flynn picks the Seahawks

Posted by Mike Florio on March 18, 2012, 5:34 PM EDT

[sheepshead]

we'll take the ball and we're gonna score..

[Joemailman]

I guess they'll be happy if this backup QB from Green Bay named Matt plays as well as the last one.

[sheepshead]

everyone thinks he picked Seattle all things being equal. There was a report the Miami low balled him. Maybe Philbin isnt as enamored with Flynn as everyone thinks. Maybe this was his only legit starting type offer.

[Scott Campbell]

So is this contract big enough to get us our 3rd round compensatory pick?

[pbmax]

So is this contract big enough to get us our 3rd round compensatory pick?

Its not as big as Kampman's and he netted the team a 4th? Or was it a 3rd?

And QB has a higher pay scale. There is a component that takes play in the first year as part of the compensation calculation. So he needs to be lights out.

[Scott Campbell]

Its not as big as Kampman's and he netted the team a 4th? Or was it a 3rd?

And QB has a higher pay scale. There is a component that takes play in the first year as part of the compensation calculation. So he needs to be lights out.


I've read that the contract is the biggest consideration, but do you know if it's the total value of the contract, or average annual value of the contract, or first year value of the contract, or total guaranteed value of the contract?

[Patler]

So is this contract big enough to get us our 3rd round compensatory pick?

Sounds like it is not:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/143259726.html

[Joemailman]

Sounds like it is not:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/143259726.html

Well, they lost Wells too, so a 3rd could be a possibility, although 2 4ths might be more likely.

[Patler]

Well, they lost Wells too, so a 3rd could be a possibility, although 2 4ths might be more likely.

Whether it is a fourth for each, or a single third for two FAs lost may depend on how many FAs are lost league wide that justify compensatory picks. The number awarded is fixed, but the rounds are not.

[easy cheesy]

Oh noes... Flynn to Seahawks... I'll never hear the end of it... ***sigh***

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/18/2701038/dolphins-lose-out-again-matt-flynn.html

[easy cheesy]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ***GASP... GULP... SIGH***

*****Glug******

[Kiwon]

"The Dolphins were not inclined to pay Flynn nearly $9 million per season, as Seattle did. The Dolphins wanted Flynn but did not believe he was that much better than Matt Moore to justify a contract in Seattle’s range, said one source who spoke to Miami’s front office."

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/19/2701038/dolphins-lose-out-again-matt-flynn.html#storylink=cpy
.................................................. ....................................

I could see it both ways. One team thinks he's worth $9 million and one doesn't. It's hard to gauge a player's value when he doesn't play.

What would be interesting to know is how strongly Philbin agreed or disagreed with A-Rod's "Top 15" quip. Those two are in a better position to evaluate Flynn's talent than almost anyone else.

[Smeefers]

From what I understand, Flynn is only guaranteed about 3 a year, with another 6 in incentives. I'm also under the impression that Flynn will be in open competition with Tavaris Jackson and that as of right now, T jack is still the starting qb.

[pbmax]

From what I understand, Flynn is only guaranteed about 3 a year, with another 6 in incentives. I'm also under the impression that Flynn will be in open competition with Tavaris Jackson and that as of right now, T jack is still the starting qb.

I think its more like $6+ mil per year and $10 mil guaranteed. Since its a three year deal, he possibly could be cut in the last year, but even then the deal can't be less than $5 mil per.

[Rutnstrut]

From what I understand, Flynn is only guaranteed about 3 a year, with another 6 in incentives. I'm also under the impression that Flynn will be in open competition with Tavaris Jackson and that as of right now, T jack is still the starting qb.

Well then the starting job should be Flynn's to lose, T Joke sucks.

[woodbuck27]

Well then the starting job should be Flynn's to lose, T Joke sucks.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/18/seahawks-have-a-decision-to-make-at-quarterback/

Seahawks have a decision to make at quarterback

Posted by Mike Florio on March 18, 2012, 5:55 PM EDT

[Kiwon]

Still, one has to wonder if money was the only reason that kept Flynn out of Miami. Did he have other reasons that made him wary?

[woodbuck27]

Still, one has to wonder if money was the only reason that kept Flynn out of Miami. Did he have other reasons that made him wary?

There is some speculation that there are concerns over the Miami Dolphins GM. I read a report on this possible issue in Miami this morning based in why players are avoiding signing in Miami.

I treat this as a rumor.

[Guiness]

There is some speculation that there are concerns over the Miami Dolphins GM. I read a report on this possible issue in Miami this morning based in why players are avoiding signing in Miami.

I treat this as a rumor.

Do you mean the Pitt LB who congratulated Flynn for not signing with them?

[Upnorth]

Do you mean the Pitt LB who congratulated Flynn for not signing with them?

It seems like most wnat to stay away from Miami, but with what appears to be a good D and a Decent Oline I am suprised they are treated like they have Leprosy. Is the GM that big of a jerk to warrent that, or are they just cheap with FA's so no one will sign there?

[Guiness]

It seems like most wnat to stay away from Miami, but with what appears to be a good D and a Decent Oline I am suprised they are treated like they have Leprosy. Is the GM that big of a jerk to warrent that, or are they just cheap with FA's so no one will sign there?

Ireland and Pioli seem to be two GM's players don't like to deal with.

[woodbuck27]

Ireland and Pioli seem to be two GM's players don't like to deal with.


http://bleacherreport.com/tb/bfF3r?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=nfl


Matt Flynn says Seahawks 'led by the right type of people'

By Marc Sessler NFL.com


Published: March 21, 2012 at 09:38 a.m.
Updated: March 21, 2012 at 01:15 p.m.

Comment woodbuck27:

Matt Flynn explains his reason for choosing the Seahawks over the Dolphins.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/143861226.html

Seahawks gave Flynn $6 million to sign

By Bob McGinn (bmcginn@journalsentinel.com) of the Journal Sentinel

** Matt Flynn's new contract is worth just about 15 times more than his old one with the Green Bay Packers.
** His three-year, $19.5 million deal with Seattle averages $6.5M.

** The four-year contract that he signed with the Packers as a seventh-round draft choice in 2008 averaged $442,294.

** He received a $6M signing bonus and base salaries of $2M this season, $5.25M in 2013 and $6.25M in 2014.

** His base salary is guaranteed this season, and $2 million of his base salary in '13 is guaranteed.

** The total guaranteed money is $10M.

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From **:

** http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/ask-vic/article-1/Thoughts-on-Flynn-and-Wells/9ae31830-0605-482d-be56-b922d721b251

Rick from Valley Springs, CA
Did we let Flynn get away without any compensation for him?

"Where have you been, Rick? ...

We’ve detailed the circumstances surrounding Matt Flynn’s departure for the past several months.

It was impossible for the Packers to secure immediate compensation for Flynn without taking a huge risk by putting the franchise tag on him, and after seeing how long it took for him to sign with a team and the contract he got from the Seahawks, I’m absolutely convinced the Packers did the right thing by not franchising him.

The risk far outweighed the gain; obviously, the Packers knew that. I missed the boat on Flynn.

I thought he would be a break-the-bank signing, but he barely got Rob Johnson money 14 years after Johnson was traded for a one and a four, and Johnson only had one game behind him." Vic Ketchman

and...

Kylon from Ipan Talofofo, Guam
Aaron Rodgershttp://www.packers.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif (http://www.packers.com/team/roster/aaron-rodgers/fe1a862d-b24a-4123-b43e-c116b59395cc/) vs. Matt Flynn this year might be one of the games to watch. What do you think?

"It’ll be a very high-profile game for Packers fans.

Whether or not it’s a game of national interest will depend on where it fits on the schedule and how Matt Flynn is performing when the two teams meet." Vic Ketchman

and ...

James from Waterloo, Ontario
Now that Seattle signed Flynn … did we by any chance put a first-round tender on him like the Steelers did with Mike Wallace?

"Again, Matt Flynn was an unrestricted free agent, Wallace is a restricted free agent.

You can’t tender a UFA as you can an RFA; all you can do is tag them.

About the only way the Packers could’ve gotten maximum compensation out of Flynn was by trading him prior to last season’s trade deadline, but would that compensation have been worth the risk of not having a backup ready to play on a defending Super Bowl champion?

Based on what happened in free agency, I have to believe the Packers wouldn’t have gotten better than a second-round pick.

Considering all that’s happened, I think the Packers played their cards perfectly; they got maximum performance protection from Flynn and they will likely receive a significant compensatory pick for having lost him in free agency." Vic Ketchman


** http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/ask-vic/article-1/Thoughts-on-Flynn-and-Wells/9ae31830-0605-482d-be56-b922d721b251

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From **:

** http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/ask-vic/article-1/Thoughts-on-Flynn-and-Wells/9ae31830-0605-482d-be56-b922d721b251

Rick from Valley Springs, CA
Did we let Flynn get away without any compensation for him?

"Where have you been, Rick? ...

We’ve detailed the circumstances surrounding Matt Flynn’s departure for the past several months.

It was impossible for the Packers to secure immediate compensation for Flynn without taking a huge risk by putting the franchise tag on him, and after seeing how long it took for him to sign with a team and the contract he got from the Seahawks, I’m absolutely convinced the Packers did the right thing by not franchising him.

The risk far outweighed the gain; obviously, the Packers knew that. I missed the boat on Flynn.

I thought he would be a break-the-bank signing, but he barely got Rob Johnson money 14 years after Johnson was traded for a one and a four, and Johnson only had one game behind him." Vic Ketchman

and...

Kylon from Ipan Talofofo, Guam
Aaron Rodgershttp://www.packers.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif (http://www.packers.com/team/roster/aaron-rodgers/fe1a862d-b24a-4123-b43e-c116b59395cc/) vs. Matt Flynn this year might be one of the games to watch. What do you think?

"It’ll be a very high-profile game for Packers fans.

Whether or not it’s a game of national interest will depend on where it fits on the schedule and how Matt Flynn is performing when the two teams meet." Vic Ketchman

and ...

James from Waterloo, Ontario
Now that Seattle signed Flynn … did we by any chance put a first-round tender on him like the Steelers did with Mike Wallace?

"Again, Matt Flynn was an unrestricted free agent, Wallace is a restricted free agent.

You can’t tender a UFA as you can an RFA; all you can do is tag them.

About the only way the Packers could’ve gotten maximum compensation out of Flynn was by trading him prior to last season’s trade deadline, but would that compensation have been worth the risk of not having a backup ready to play on a defending Super Bowl champion?

Based on what happened in free agency, I have to believe the Packers wouldn’t have gotten better than a second-round pick.

Considering all that’s happened, I think the Packers played their cards perfectly; they got maximum performance protection from Flynn and they will likely receive a significant compensatory pick for having lost him in free agency." Vic Ketchman


** http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/ask-vic/article-1/Thoughts-on-Flynn-and-Wells/9ae31830-0605-482d-be56-b922d721b251

Based on what happened in FA would we have even gotten a 3rd?? :?:

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/27/joe-philbin-ask-matt-flynn-why-hes-in-seattle/

Joe Philbin: “Ask Matt Flynn why he’s in Seattle”

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 27, 2012, 6:32 PM EDT