Robert Griffin III hasn’t conceded top pick to Luck

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/24/griffin-hasnt-conceded-top-pick-to-luck/

Robert Griffin III hasn’t conceded top pick to Luck

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/24/cosell-deems-rg3-a-superior-arm-talent-and-natural-passer-to-luck/

Cosell deems RG3 a “superior arm talent and natural passer” to Luck

Posted by Evan Silva on March 24, 2012, 7:06 PM EDT


"ESPN’s Merril Hoge caused a stir last week when he advised the Colts to draft Baylor’s Robert Griffin III over Stanford’s Andrew Luck with the first pick in the draft." fr. story

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/24/saints-lift-curtis-lofton-from-falcons/

Saints lift Curtis Lofton from Falcons

Posted by Mike Florio on March 24, 2012, 10:03 PM EDT

Comment woodbuck27;

The NO Saints demonstrating foresight and damage control in this signing. This player is productive. Cost?

“Curtis is a versatile, hard-working player that has displayed a knack for being around the football, and more importantly, making plays on the ball,” G.M. Mickey Loomis

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/25/draft-focus-turns-to-blackmon-richardson-and-claiborne/

Draft focus turns to Justin Blackmon, Trent Richardson and Morris Claiborne

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 25, 2012, 9:34 AM EDT

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/25/report-nflpa-expects-significant-cap-growth-in-2014/

Report: NFLPA expects “significant” cap growth in 2014

Posted by Josh Alper on March 25, 2012, 10:20 AM EDT

[sharpe1027]

Woodbuck27, I appreciate the good intentions, but most of us can use our a web browser to go to the PFT site ourselves (perhaps not some of the older folk, but they found Packerrats, so they can't be too web-challenged...). Do you think it might make more sense to limit the number of PFT posts to one per a day? Perhaps you can pick the best article of the day and start a thread on that issue? Thanks for your consideration. :)

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/26/andrew-luck-colts-havent-told-me-theyll-draft-me-yet/

Andrew Luck: Colts haven’t told me they’ll draft me yet

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 26, 2012, 11:41 AM EDT

[woodbuck27]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000d5d827e4649/article/irsay-says-colts-still-havent-decided-between-luck-rg3

Irsay says Colts still haven't decided between Andrew Luck and RG3.


NFL.com
Published: March 26, 2012 at 10:24 p.m.
Updated: March 26, 2012 at 10:44 p.m

[woodbuck27]

Son luck and RG3 will go one-two but what will the vikings do/

There's talk now that the Vikings will pass on * LT Matt Kalil. That they will stay on offense but can't pass on **WR Justin Blackmon. This is an impressive prospect at WR and IMO will be a dominanat receiver in the NFL paired with a decent QB.

LT Matt Kalil Vs WR Justinn Blackmon .........

* LT Matt Kalil.... Get's it done and may be an instant starter in the NFL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Kalil

http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/kalil_matt00.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN5LtLt2P4w&feature=related

** WR Justin Blackmon ......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Blackmon

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/380077/justin-blackmon



Check out this amazing WR !!! He's something else. We know what Calvin Johnson means to the Detroit Lions. See any similarities?

Video length is 5:39.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JRKeajY1bU


Matt Kalil or Justin Blackmon? There's a tough decision.

I would have a tough time passing on WR Justin Blackmon giving the fact my team is weak in terms of offensive weapons for it's QB's to pair up with. Then againn thatv QB has to be onn his fet to deliver the pass to a WR. LT Matt Kalil? Justin Blackmon is the glamour pick.

Justin Blackmon's Scouting Report:

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2811

Matt Kalil's Scouting Report:

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2902

Who's your pick if your the Vikings GM?

[woodbuck27]

2012 NFL Mock Drafts FFTool Box.Com:

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/index.cfm

This seems to rule. IND - A. Luck (http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2746), WAS - R. Griffin (http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=3046), MIN - M. Kalil (http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2902), CLE - T. Richardson (http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2916), TB - M. Claiborne (http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=3012), STL - J. Blackmon (http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2811)

Maybe the Robert Griffin III to Indy and Justin Blackmon to Minny is media spin. What do you think?

[sharpe1027]

I'm sure IND doesn't mind the press since it can only help in their negotiations with Luck. With the new rooki cap, however, it's not as big of a deal.

[woodbuck27]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1119051-2012-nfl-draft-why-matt-kalil-is-vikings-only-option?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=minnesota-vikings

2012 NFL Draft: Why Matt Kalil Is Minnesota Vikings' Only Option ... with the NO. 3 pick.

[sheepshead]

Why would he? Publicly anyway.

[woodbuck27]

I'm sure IND doesn't mind the press since it can only help in their negotiations with Luck. With the new rooki cap, however, it's not as big of a deal.


Yes nice point.

I appreciate your candor RE: me and posting one article a day off PFT.Com. That's just not my style Packer fan. I'll explain why?

It's this seemingly menial dtuff to some Packer fans that intrigues me as an NFL fan. I love the Packers and have for over 50 years; but more and more I enjoy the NFL overall. It's becoming all very interestinfg to me as an amatuer or wanna be NFL anayst. It gives me some edge in the PRO Pickem' challenge each season. To have a more solid understanding of what all teams are in terms of strength and how exactly they got there.

I trust that others here at Packerrats may think along the same lines. Any NFL news is good news. It's alot like the newspaper.

Some folks dig right into municiple or regional political news. Others love anything having to do with entertainment; maybe for some it's the Sports Section and the Comics. While others eat into the Classifieds. We're all different and as a Packerrat contributor I put in my personal time to give all readers here a smorgasborg of NFL information. A poster can take what he/she needs from it all. Some here will scream and shout at my efforts. (-:

Tha's 'just' too bad...... so sad.

[Guiness]

If Kalil is all that and a bag of chips at LT, you take him, no question. Second most important position on a team, and probably the one that can do the most damage if not properly manned.

I think LT's at the top of the draft tend to be more sure bets as well? Of course, there's always the Robert Gallery's of the world - he wasn't a flop, but wasn't the 'plug and play at LT for 10 years' he was supposed to be.

[woodbuck27]

Why would he? Publicly anyway.

I'm not sure where your going here sheepshead? You'll have to elaborate, please. (-:

[woodbuck27]

If Kalil is all that and a bag of chips at LT, you take him, no question. Second most important position on a team, and probably the one that can do the most damage if not properly manned.

I think LT's at the top of the draft tend to be more sure bets as well? Of course, there's always the Robert Gallery's of the world - he wasn't a flop, but wasn't the 'plug and play at LT for 10 years' he was supposed to be.

Yes... the practical pick over glamour.

[sharpe1027]

I appreciate your candor RE: me and posting one article a day off PFT.Com. That's just not my style Packer fan. I'll explain why?

It's this seemingly menial dtuff to some Packer fans that intrigues me as an NFL fan. I love the Packers and have for over 50 years; but more and more I enjoy the NFL overall. It's becoming all very interestinfg to me as an amatuer or wanna be NFL anayst. It gives me some edge in the PRO Pickem' challenge each season. To have a more solid understanding of what all teams are in terms of strength and how exactly they got there.

I trust that others here at Packerrats may think along the same lines. Any NFL news is good news. It's alot like the newspaper.

Some folks dig right into municiple or regional political news. Others love anything having to do with entertainment; maybe for some it's the Sports Section and the Comics. While others eat into the Classifieds. We're all different and as a Packerrat contributor I put in my personal time to give all readers here a smorgasborg of NFL information. A poster can take what he/she needs from it all. Some here will scream and shout at my efforts. (-:

Tha's 'just' too bad...... so sad.

It was just my personal thoughts. I have mostly stopped reading your external-link posts because, IMHO, the sheer quantity of links has watered-down the quality. I can easily scroll past them if I don't feel like reading them so it is not a big deal.

[woodbuck27]

It was just my personal thoughts. I have mostly stopped reading your external-link posts because, IMHO, the sheer quantity of links has watered-down the quality. I can easily scroll past them if I don't feel like reading them so it is not a big deal.

Cool. (-:

[Smidgeon]

If Kalil is all that and a bag of chips at LT, you take him, no question. Second most important position on a team, and probably the one that can do the most damage if not properly manned.

I think LT's at the top of the draft tend to be more sure bets as well? Of course, there's always the Robert Gallery's of the world - he wasn't a flop, but wasn't the 'plug and play at LT for 10 years' he was supposed to be.

Mandarich

[MadtownPacker]

It was just my personal thoughts. I have mostly stopped reading your external-link posts because, IMHO, the sheer quantity of links has watered-down the quality. I can easily scroll past them if I don't feel like reading them so it is not a big deal.


Tha's 'just' too bad...... so sad.Ok Woody let us have words. I know you are no fool and read other sections of the forum. There is a thread in the RR directly expessing concern about this issue. If it was just one poster crying I would say "too bad, so sad" as you did. But it is several and as a community people are feeling that threads are being disrupted. After further review I have to agree. I see threads with links not relevant to the current conversation. This are messing with the flow of discussion and ultimately that's is what we are here to do.

Everyone knows you are hooking us up so please don't take this harshly man. How can we work this so everyone is good?

[woodbuck27]

Ok Woody let us have words. I know you are no fool and read other sections of the forum. There is a thread in the RR directly expessing concern about this issue. If it was just one poster crying I would say "too bad, so sad" as you did. But it is several and as a community people are feeling that threads are being disrupted. After further review I have to agree. I see threads with links not relevant to the current conversation. This are messing with the flow of discussion and ultimately that's is what we are here to do.

Everyone knows you are hooking us up so please don't take this harshly man. How can we work this so everyone is good?

Mad Please read my entire response (s) to sharpe1027 and in all cases I'am certainly polite and not just casting off any form of complaint . I explain why I post as I do. I just receivedthe same sort of response from Cheesehead Craig. Again I honestly explain my reasoning behind certain posts and my reasoning for depositing posts on two threads. If that is judged unacceptable I certainly won't do that anymore.

Now Please TRUST this as the TRUTH Mad.

Re: Some thread in Romper Room where I'm just assuming there's a thread NOT anything good woodbuck27. I've NOT seen this thread. It's been two three days since I posted orr observed any threads in RR.

I reiterate when posters go on the woodbuck27 attack. IMO and certainly from a personal standpoint of my membershipm here and attempts to contribute by far a positive . It's too bad ...so sad. At times I expect that posters here will desire to go up against me. It's the story of my life. It's the story of my ancestry Mad.

So talk about this? What can I write on this Mad?

I'll just stick with this:

It's too bad....so sad. If posters here feel a need to 'lynch me'. That's pathetic.

That's the TRUTH.

What can I do to satisfy anyone here at Packerrats that feels so much grief over my posts? What can I do to stop any grief you might have to deal with that may harm you Mad?

I reiterate this FACT. I'm NOT aware of any concerted efforts Vs me. Unless you instruct me to. I will not even go to RR to view such behaviour if that 'in fact' exists.

I'll add this as some help I trust for you Mad. I'm not a member of Packerrats bent on making posters unhappy or 'to get bent out of shape' over my endeavours to be a solid contributor here. I try my best to post decent material. To overall contibute interesting material to Packerrats. I love this forum. I always have tried to be a member in good standing here.

When I have had to defend certain positions I've taken I don't aim to hurt anyone in the course of debate. I cannot account for the sensativities or ego needs of certain members here all of the time. I take no satisfaction in insulting a member or in any other manner upseting members. I won't always succeed in that ideal. I'm human and error.

The bottom line is Packerrats health and well being.

It does me 'no good' to become acquainted with anyone here that aims to harm me...undermine my membership. That would disagree with my sense of personal integrity and common sense.

Whatever you need from me Mad. I'm agreeable to that man. That's my best offering...my bottom line.

[Guiness]

Mandarich

Nah, I specifically avoided him, for a couple of reasons. One, well, it's too close to home. Second, at the time, he was an out and out bust, seemingly beyond explanation. As it turned out, there was a lot of very good explanations. A perfect storm of duplicity and blind eyes there, which I think would be a lot harder to pull off today.

caveat: and yes, I know, he has a pretty decent career later on in Indianapolis.

[Smidgeon]

Nah, I specifically avoided him, for a couple of reasons. One, well, it's too close to home. Second, at the time, he was an out and out bust, seemingly beyond explanation. As it turned out, there was a lot of very good explanations. A perfect storm of duplicity and blind eyes there, which I think would be a lot harder to pull off today.

caveat: and yes, I know, he has a pretty decent career later on in Indianapolis.

Andre Brown (that was his name, right?). Bengels.

[sheepshead]

I'm not sure where your going here sheepshead? You'll have to elaborate, please. (-:

Why would RGIII concede the top pick? Theres no reason for him to do so. . And to Mads post. Why not just post items tangentially related to the Packers? Packers players, former players / maybe a need guy that youd like to see TT go after and why?? Like I said, a journeyman offensive lineman switching AFC teams isnt much of a conversation piece.

[MJZiggy]

Why would RGIII concede the top pick? Theres no reason for him to do so. . And to Mads post. Why not just post items tangentially related to the Packers? Packers players, former players / maybe a need guy that youd like to see TT go after and why?? Like I said, a journeyman offensive lineman switching AFC teams isnt much of a conversation piece.

Just a thought, but what if we simply created a thread called something like Woodbuck's NFL info and he can put all of the links he wants in just that one place so it makes them easier for the rest of us to find and so they are only posted once. Then the other threads can continue on as normal, but those who want to see what's behind the links have a great and organized place to look for that information.

[sheepshead]

Yeah, give woody his own sandbox to play in.

[woodbuck27]

Just a thought, but what if we simply created a thread called something like Woodbuck's NFL info and he can put all of the links he wants in just that one place so it makes them easier for the rest of us to find and so they are only posted once. Then the other threads can continue on as normal, but those who want to see what's behind the links have a great and organized place to look for that information.

Yes MJZiggy good. A thread of generalized NFL information like my thread:

2012 Free Agent Watch (http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?23734-2012-Free-Agent-Watch)

A thread that's covering material that certain members here; members that want 'for whatever reason', to keep up with NFL transactions and happenings that will impact those teams involved as for example a Pre-Draft strategy. How such a thread can offend certain members IMO is their own issue and problem. It shouldn't be mine.

[woodbuck27]

Yeah, give woody his own sandbox to play in.


How about NFL Infobox?

Is that satisfactory to you sheepshead? I want to make you happy. I really do man. (-:

[Bretsky]

Just a thought, but what if we simply created a thread called something like Woodbuck's NFL info and he can put all of the links he wants in just that one place so it makes them easier for the rest of us to find and so they are only posted once. Then the other threads can continue on as normal, but those who want to see what's behind the links have a great and organized place to look for that information.

That is thie 2012 FA thread; I have a thought as well.
Why don't people irked with that thread just stop reading it ?
If they stop reading that thread and Woody happens to doublepost then they don't even notice
I enjoy the thread content because it allows me to keep up.

I have a distaste for FYI and have been irrated when I read the stuff so I don't go threre. EZ Fix

[woodbuck27]

That is thie 2012 FA thread; I have a thought as well.
Why don't people irked with that thread just stop reading it ?
If they stop reading that thread and Woody happens to doublepost then they don't even notice
I enjoy the thread content because it allows me to keep up.

I have a distaste for FYI and have been irrated when I read the stuff so I don't go threre. EZ Fix

THANKS 'B'.

[woodbuck27]

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/03/colts-irsay-andrew-luck-at-no-1-is-no-sure-thing/1#.T3JBG4408QV

Mar 26, 2012

Colts' Irsay: Andrew Luck at No. 1 is no sure thing.

By Jim Corbett (http://content.usatoday.com/topics/reporter/Jim+Corbett), USA TODAY

Updated 11h 9m ago

[sharpe1027]

That is thie 2012 FA thread; I have a thought as well.
Why don't people irked with that thread just stop reading it ?


Woodbuck posted over 20 different links in this thread alone and I bet it would easily top 100 links on the front page alone. If it was only that one on thread, it would be different. As I said, I just scroll past and ignore his posts so it is not big deal. All I did was at least let woodbuck27 know that his post are a minor inconvenience.

[woodbuck27]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cole_jim_irsay_andrew_luck_robert_griffin_draft_03 2712

Andrew Luck safer pick than Robert Griffin III at No. 1, say NFL coaches and executives

http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/ed/experts/cole.png By Jason Cole (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/expertsarchive?author=Jason+Cole), Yahoo! Sports 1 hour, 37 minutes ago

[woodbuck27]

Woodbuck posted over 20 different links in this thread alone and I bet it would easily top 100 links on the front page alone. If it was only that one on thread, it would be different. As I said, I just scroll past and ignore his posts so it is not big deal. All I did was at least let woodbuck27 know that his post are a minor inconvenience.


sharpe1027 You and I have gone over this issue of me posting LINKS and that collides with me trying best I can to cover all that's happening right now and over the past 12-14 days and that's been so much and for many NFL fans very exciting stuff.

You and I have IMO conducted this matter with edicate as gentleman. I believe we're cool Packer fan.

Unfortunately if I give you what you desire the material canot possibly go on this forum.

I believe you understand my position and that fact.If you can otherwise enlightem me I'm more than pleased to be open minded and go more your way. I just cannot see that possibility at this time in regards to overall NFL information.

It's very bust now. I 'm sure of that because I've worked my ass off here to submit all I can that's interesting and NFL related over these past two weeks.

Don't worry as I cannot maintain my posted reports for much longer.

I'm not trying for Packerrts Domination or The Packerrats Dominator of the YEAR AWARD.

That 'only' gets you 'a kick in the ass'. Certainly ... ' little respect '. (-:

[sharpe1027]

If you can otherwise enlightem me I'm more than pleased to be open minded and go more your way. I just cannot see that possibility at this time in regards to overall NFL information.


I thought I made it pretty clear so I have my doubts your sincerity. I can click on PTF.com or wikipedia for myself. When others posters provide a link they generally filter through a bunch of articles and only present an article if they found to be of particular interest. You have virtually no filter and often post nothing except the article title and link. All I ask is that you use some common sense intelligence in your selections.

You don't need to bother explaining why you won't change your habits (but I have a hunch that you will anyway). I've heard your reasoning. If that is what you want to do, I won't comment further.

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/28/shanahan-raves-about-griffin-as-a-quarterback-and-a-person/

Shanahan raves about Griffin as a quarterback and a person

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 28, 2012, 7:43 PM EDT

[woodbuck27]

I thought I made it pretty clear so I have my doubts your sincerity. I can click on PTF.com or wikipedia for myself. When others posters provide a link they generally filter through a bunch of articles and only present an article if they found to be of particular interest. You have virtually no filter and often post nothing except the article title and link. All I ask is that you use some common sense intelligence in your selections.

You don't need to bother explaining why you won't change your habits (but I have a hunch that you will anyway). I've heard your reasoning. If that is what you want to do, I won't comment further.

WOW ! sharpe1027 ...Do you a) want to grind me out or b) be reasonable Packer fan? You'll waste alot of effort attempting a). You won't waste mine. I'm patient. (-:

PLEASE... READ THE fORUM'S OWNERS STICKY TO US Packerrats RE: BEING CAREFUL NOT TO PLACE THIS fORUM INTO RISK FOR COPYWRITE VIOLATION. Please read that post.

Now STOP ! Try hard to take this advice. With an open mind do not read any more of this post. Read the sticky posted by Mad.

************************************************** *********************************

Have you read Mad's instruction to Forum members RE: postting Articles/Stories? If your still reading this post and do NOT fully understand Mads reqest ...again PLEASE STOP and read the instruction from Mad for a clear understanding. Thanks again.

************************************************** **************************

Now I assume you have read it and understant it as well. Having read Mad's INSTRUCTION to us.

DO YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND MY ATTEMPTS TO STRICTLY ADHERE TO Mad's REQUEST? I trust you do.

In any case.....

I'm trying to work with you here and I hope now you understand why I took the [position I did. look at the beginning of my FA thread. I start out going all hog on that one and did so in absolute error. I knew that method might it a tad easier to copy and paste; to use for whatever, but there is the risk of getting into a scrap RE: Copywrite Violation. I'm certianly trying to be compliant in that regard.

Please it's also OK.... If you can't understand my manner of posting NFL and 'Green Bay Packer Specific' information to be in compliance with the sticky at the top of this football section of Packerrats. Again sometimes I think I might rewrite ' the Book On Patience '.

I'm cool with you Packer fan. We're cool. We're GOOD !!

Please............If your still anoid wil that gain you much. take a few more days to try and get 'just' to understanding my position. Your original one is impossible. Secondly I'm in a good position at this time to be creative for packerrats. My efforts are sincere and unless I learn otherwise by the POWER here .... appreciated.

Thank You. Have a Super day...weekend. (-:

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/29/mcnabb-says-robert-griffin-iii-doesnt-fit-with-shanahans-offense/

McNabb says Robert Griffin III doesn’t fit with Shanahans’ offense

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 29, 2012, 10:59 AM EDT


Comment woodbuick27:

Any 'Sour Grapes' there?

[sharpe1027]

Woodbuck, nobody is asking you to lengthen your posts by adding copyright material, that would just make the problem worse. I am asking only that you use the same common sense filtering that other posters seem perfectly capable of doing. That is not impossible. If you still believe that the only "possible" way for you to contribute is to post 20-30 external links in each of multiple different threads, then sobeit.

Sorry to everyone for going back on my promise not to comment further.

[Freak Out]

keep it up woody...just keep it legal. Screw these chumps.....they can always put you on ignore. :)

[woodbuck27]

keep it up woody...just keep it legal. Screw these chumps.....they can always put you on ignore. :)

I have 'no real idea' of the full extent of their ire. I cannot change their attitude and attitude's towords me. I have maintained my STRENGTH and NOT visited Romper Room as I do NOT care to know the enemy. I cam well guess who they are anyway. This isn't about my posting style.

This runs much deeper. Posters here just stompin' at the bit to see woodbuck27 fall. It isn't going to happen based in anything resembling fairness at Packerrats.

I TRUST 'the POWERS to BE 'here and not the Kangaroo Court NOT the instigators of 'a Witch Hunt'. Shame on them. (-:

I just come here like I always have and try my damnest to contribute positive. If I can do better I accept any help. It has to be reasonable and serve a certain decent puropse or maintain 'the integrity' of Packerrats.

I've never been one to PANIC when the Lynch Mob mentality is brewing in any Town Hall meeting. I know who has a monopoly on al the ROPE around OUR Packer Home.

I trust that man. THANKS for the positive SUPPORT. I really appreciate your support.

GO PACKERS !

[sharpe1027]

In many years at this site, I don't remember even reading a post in the Romper Room. I thought what I posted was pretty reasonable: feel free to keep posting as you are, but here is my thoughts and preferences, if you don't agree that's fine. Your paranoid accusations seem to show your true colors. I guess it is shame on me for believing you when you said you thought of me as a cool Packer fan. :(

[woodbuck27]

In many years at this site, I don't remember even reading a post in the Romper Room. I thought what I posted was pretty reasonable: feel free to keep posting as you are, but here is my thoughts and preferences, if you don't agree that's fine. Your paranoid accusations seem to show your true colors. I guess it is shame on me for believing you when you said you thought of me as a cool Packer fan. :(


'Holy Mackeral Andy' sharpe1027...whoa .... Please.

Read this carefully, PLEASE:

I'm not accusing 'YOU' sharpe1027 ...... of anything, Packer fan.

I post here for the benefit of al members here at Packerrats. I hold no angst, for one single soul at Packerrats, that posts material that I read.

"Your paranoid accusations seem to show your true colors. I guess it is shame on me for believing you when you said you thought of me as a cool Packer fan."

a) I'm not the sort that ever gets paranoid sharpe1027. I respond to any challenge unless that poster is acting impossible for me to go on with. I'm more than fair and a gentleman overall in my posting style. In wear 'no masks' here.

b) Arn't you a 'cool' person as well as a 'cool Packer fan'? I've not seen anything in your posts to inform me differently sharpe1027.

c) Shame on 'YOU'. Why? That feeling sure isn't meant to come from me, in any sense of engaging you as a fellow poster here at Packerrats.

Your innoscent of some things here. things that are beyond my control as I presently understand them. I havn't dealt myself into 'a certain' game'. I'm not even in that particular gaming room. OK (-:

It seems to me from this last post that your not understanding it all anymore than I am sharpe1027.

I'm cool with you Packer fan.

'Water off a ducks back' sharpe1027. (-:

[sharpe1027]

Shame on you Woody for shaming on me.

[woodbuck27]

Shame on you Woody for shaming on me.

Ok.

How many times do I need to chew cabbage. I hope you appreciate 'the pun'.

How many times do 'we' need to chew 'this cabbage'?

Ahhh........... I'll try this....Can we get on 'a different ride' ? (-:

[sharpe1027]

How many times? As many as it takes, woodbuck. As many as it takes.

For anyone else that has the tenacity (insanity?) to follow this train wreck of a thread, I would like to point out the hypocrisy of me posting a whole line of posts about Woodbuck posting too much. Of course, what I've learned is that if anyone has a problem with that,you just ignore me. Insanity breeds insanity.

[woodbuck27]

How many times? As many as it takes, woodbuck. As many as it takes.

For anyone else that has the tenacity (insanity?) to follow this train wreck of a thread, I would like to point out the hypocrisy of me posting a whole line of posts about Woodbuck posting too much. Of course, what I've learned is that if anyone has a problem with that,you just ignore me. Insanity breeds insanity.

Ohh Man..you may need 'a cool and refreshing ' beverage.

Good LUCK. I'm pullin' for you. (-:

Your hilarious. LOL X 10 ! My compliments...I love to laugh.

Like the Anthony Hargrove signing?

How about the latest news!? RE: LT Chad Clifton and WR Donald Driver expected back this season...RE: Mike McCarth'sy sight of things.

[sharpe1027]

Ohh Man..you may need 'a cool and refreshing ' beverage.

Good LUCK. I'm pullin' for you. (-:

Your hilarious. LOL X 10 ! My compliments...I love to laugh.

Like the Anthony Hargrove signing?

How about the latest news!? RE: LT Chad Clifton and WR Donald Driver expected back this season...RE: Mike McCarth'sy sight of things.

I am funny in a sad pathetic sort of way.

Wrong thread, but I figure Hargrove can't hurt, and he has the potential to give them some added depth and a few extra sacks.

We'll see about Clifton and Driver. They would never indicate they were thinking about cutting either of them to the press before they were sure about it. They don't need to cut or restructure either of them until and unless they have a use for the cap space they would save. Time will tell.

[Fritz]

Woody, you're like the crazy-ass old codger at the family reunion who has a detailed analysis as to why martian radio waves are infecting our brains. No one's sure if that overweight old guy in the red suspenders and sweat-soaked checkered shirt is really even in the family at all, no one's sure if he's brilliant or retarded or rainmannish, but everyone kinda gets a kick out of him when they're not creeped out, and a few people even think he's on to something.

[Upnorth]

Sorry to mention football on this hugs and kisses thread, but if I'm Griffin I am praying to be picked #1 to stay awy from the washington train wreak. If they had a good draft history it wouldn't be so bad, but they don't really have a draft history to speak of, only FA trades.

[sharpe1027]

Only terribly bad FA and trades that were rivaled only by the Raiders.

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/01/lucks-qb-tutor-if-colts-draft-griffin-theyll-regret-it-for-years/

Luck’s QB tutor: If Colts draft Griffin they’ll regret it for years

Posted by Michael David Smith on April 1, 2012, 8:52 AM EDT

[woodbuck27]

Woody, you're like the crazy-ass old codger at the family reunion who has a detailed analysis as to why martian radio waves are infecting our brains. No one's sure if that overweight old guy in the red suspenders and sweat-soaked checkered shirt is really even in the family at all, no one's sure if he's brilliant or retarded or rainmannish, but everyone kinda gets a kick out of him when they're not creeped out, and a few people even think he's on to something.

You wanna know 'the TRUTH.

** I'm about as nice a fella and as down to earth as they come.

I'll inform you of this. I'm over the top ...way too polite. People that really know me wouldn't believe the CRAP I put up with hetre because I deserve my place here.

In 'real life' away from the ladies and more gentile posters here; because these posters are just too stupid to really bother with. I'd act just as much a gentleman.

I might act more silly and lose control, but I reaize some posters here wanna paint this outrageouslu inaccurate picture (profile) of me that would drive me up the wall if ** that second sentence wasn't exactly 'the TRUTH'.

[Cheesehead Craig]

RGIII, IMO, will not be a big success in the NFL. I think he'll have his moments where he runs around and makes some exciting plays and make some highlights with his runs. However when it comes time for his arm to make the plays, I don't think he'll be all that consistently good. I'm thinking similar to Vince Young.

[woodbuck27]

RGIII, IMO, will not be a big success in the NFL. I think he'll have his moments where he runs around and makes some exciting plays and make some highlights with his runs. However when it comes time for his arm to make the plays, I don't think he'll be all that consistently good. I'm thinking similar to Vince Young.


I really havn't taken the time to study Luck Vs RG# on video. I'm not equiped then to comment on this QB's credentials and likely or not prognosis for success in the NFL as a starting QB. One fella writes that he's got superior athletic skills in comparison to Cam Newton doesn't mean that's the TRUTH. TRUTH sometimes takes time to develop clearly.

IMO the real story here is what the Skins have sacrificed again to do something they fail time and again and again to do.

Get a franchise QB.

When it breaks in the Media! That RG3 may not be there at #2 it gets more ridiculous. Last week I paid attention to this story and it seems likely that Andrew Luck will be the nexy draft pick of ' the COLTS '.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/michael-wilbon-says-the-colts-are-considering-robert-griffin-iii/2012/04/02/gIQA5dzJrS_blog.html

Posted at 03:14 PM ET, 04/02/2012 The Washington Post

Michael Wilbon says the Colts are considering Robert Griffin III

By Dan Steinberg (http://www.washingtonpost.com/dan-steinberg/2011/02/09/ABq4PTF_page.html)

"... and now you consult all these different people about something as important as a number one overall draft pick, a maybe once in a generation pick. And they are of the opinion, some people that are having input into this pick, that RGIII is better in the pocket.....
They have stats, they have analysis, they have information that says to them it’s Luck who is faster to leave the pocket and not be as good in the pocket. And RGIII is better in the pocket, he’s a better pocket passer, better arm. And that they are seriously still considering RGIII.” David Wilbon

[woodbuck27]

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120402/SPORTS03/120402033/Colts-put-QB-Andrew-Luck-through-private-workout-Tuesday

Colts to put QB Andrew Luck through private workout Tuesday

4:48 PM, Apr. 2, 2012

"The magnitude of the event is reflected in the team’s traveling contingent: general manager Ryan Grigson, coach Chuck Pagano, offensive coordinator Bruce Arians, quarterbacks coach Clyde Christensen and vice president of football operations Tom Telesco. Owner Jim Irsay is not expected to make trip.

Christensen, who also attended the March 21 pro day of Baylor quarterback Robert Griffin III, insisted the Colts have two intriguing candidates for the No. 1 overall pick.

“We’ll get all the information and make a great decision,” Christensen said. He described Luck’s workout as “just like his game film. It was just steady. It was just solid.” " Fr. Article

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/03/robert-griffin-iii-says-he-emulates-manning-brady-in-fooling-defenses/

Comment woodbuck27: Who said this?

Robert Griffin III emulates Manning, Brady in fooling defenses

Posted by Michael David Smith on April 3, 2012, 9:02 AM EDT

Comment woodbuck27:

Now this question of who goes at No. 1 Thursday evening April 27,2012 is really taking off in the media. RGIII is certainly doing a fine job promoting himself.

[Guiness]

Woody, you're like the crazy-ass old codger at the family reunion who has a detailed analysis as to why martian radio waves are infecting our brains. No one's sure if that overweight old guy in the red suspenders and sweat-soaked checkered shirt is really even in the family at all, no one's sure if he's brilliant or retarded or rainmannish, but everyone kinda gets a kick out of him when they're not creeped out, and a few people even think he's on to something.

As long as he keeps his dick out of the mashed potatoes, everything will work out in the end.

[Guiness]

RGIII, IMO, will not be a big success in the NFL. I think he'll have his moments where he runs around and makes some exciting plays and make some highlights with his runs. However when it comes time for his arm to make the plays, I don't think he'll be all that consistently good. I'm thinking similar to Vince Young.

From what I've seen, although he may have the ability to run around, it will be more Steve Young than Micheal Vick. Some of the reports are saying he's a better pocket passer than Luck? That's interesting.

Or maybe not. Looks like RGIII actually has given up on being the first pick. As mentioned at the end of the article, this doesn't mean near as much (financially) as it did a few years ago. Sam Bradford was the last recipient of what was that insanity.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/03/griffin-tells-colts-no-to-private-workout/
Griffin tells Colts “no” to private workout

Posted by Mike Florio on April 3, 2012, 10:08 AM EDT

[woodbuck27]

From what I've seen, although he may have the ability to run around, it will be more Steve Young than Micheal Vick. Some of the reports are saying he's a better pocket passer than Luck? That's interesting.

Or maybe not. Looks like RGIII actually has given up on being the first pick. As mentioned at the end of the article, this doesn't mean near as much (financially) as it did a few years ago. Sam Bradford was the last recipient of what was that insanity.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/03/griffin-tells-colts-no-to-private-workout/
Griffin tells Colts “no” to private workout

Posted by Mike Florio on April 3, 2012, 10:08 AM EDT

Maybe he doesn't need the pressure of being heir apparant to 'the GREAT' Peyton Manning?

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/03/robert-griffin-iii-says-he-emulates-manning-brady-in-fooling-defenses/

Comment woodbuck27: Who said this?

Robert Griffin III emulates Manning, Brady in fooling defenses

Posted by Michael David Smith on April 3, 2012, 9:02 AM EDT

Comment woodbuck27:

Now this question of who goes at No. 1 Thursday evening April 27,2012 is really taking off in the media. RGIII is certainly doing a fine job promoting himself.


LOL..... This watch swings either way on a day to day basis.

[woodbuck27]

Maybe he doesn't need the pressure of being heir apparant to 'the GREAT' Peyton Manning?

So it's just this:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/03/griffin-will-turn-down-all-private-workout-requests/

Griffin will turn down 'all private' workout requests.

Posted by Mike Florio on April 3, 2012, 1:53 PM EDT