Non-PackerRat Mock Draft Central

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For all the mock drafts that we will forget about 25 hours after the first round.

But for now, the replacement at Pro Football Weekly for the dearly departed shut in Joel Buschbaum, Nolan Nawrocki has the Packers taking Andre Branch at 28.

I just noticed the Patriots sitting at 27 ahead of the Pack with New Orleans pick. Odds on Ted wanting to get in front of them?

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/03/26/mock-draft-20

[Fritz]

As always, I mock your draft.

[Lurker64]

I love Andre Branch at #28. If we can't get Upshaw or Ingram, Branch is who I want at OLB.

[pbmax]

As always, I mock your draft.

I know you like Illinios' Mercilus because he was originally mocked in the 3rd but after talking to reporters he has been mocked to the 1st.

And if his nickname isn't Ming the, then I hold the entire Chambana population at fault.

[swede]

Branch and Mercilus are two I like if we stay at 28.

[Joemailman]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/fullnflmockdraft-PatKirwan

Kirwan has Packers taking Kendall Reyes, a pick I've been hearing a lot lately. Hasn't been as well known as some because he played for UConn, but had a great Senior Bowl and Combine.

[packrulz]

Dont'a Hightower drafted 11th? Ahead of Luke Kuechly? Dre Kirkpatrick dropping all the way to 32? This guy must've been hammered when he did this mock.

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Dont'a Hightower drafted 11th? Ahead of Luke Kuechly? Dre Kirkpatrick dropping all the way to 32? This guy must've been hammered when he did this mock.

Nawrocki has a prety good reputation. Better than most draftniks, certainly better than Kiper or McShay. Mainly that covers the actually watching and digesting of game film. Predicting what lunatics like Dan Snyder or Mike Brown will actually do is more the realm of mystics and soothsayers to be honest.

The only other person I am aware of with a better rep for evaluating is Mayock. Speaking of which ...

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Oh well. Mayock hasn't released one yet. But here is the link to the other talking heads at Jeremy Shockey's favorite network:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/mock-drafts

Its mostly old data. 2 have Peter Konz going to the Packers and the other is Branch. Baldinger does not believe more than 10 players are worthy of being drafted, apparently.

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NFL Draft Scout at CBS has one vote for Branch (Rob Rang) the other vote for Reyes (Dane Brugler), each is dated the 26th of March.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock


And you can pick your own guru here: http://www.thehuddlereport.com/Free/mockdraftscoring.shtml
But Gosselin usually takes my mock draft and copies it. :lol:

[woodbuck27]

Branch and Mercilus are two I like if we stay at 28.

I have to check the freshness of the information this post is based on. In any case here goes:

DE Andre Branch, Clemson? ** Goes in the Second round at #42

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=68712&draftyear=2012&genpos=DE

NOT too shabby with Whitney Mercilus (but**):

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=3078

** NOTE: Center Peter Konz is moving up Mock Draft boards. I saw one with him going to Tennessee at #20. Sadly Mr. Mercilus a hybride DE/LB went at #22 to the Browns. DT Jerel Worthy went #24 (Pittsburg); DT Michael Brockers went to Denver @ #25; Devon Still, DE/DT, Penn State (http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2954) went @ #27 to new England and that makes him close in the Packerrats Mock.

In this Mock we get a fella I like in Nick Perry, DE/OLB, USC (http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=3074). In alot of Mocks I see Nick perry on the rise. We have some fun with this stuff as we love football; but we all know that until Ted Thompson and the Green Bay Packers are announced as being on the clock at #28 after the NE Pat's pick 'only' one man will be deciding onn that pick. The thing I see about TT is he seems to be in control of his emotions and I'll bet if you got to known him he's a bag of nerves.

I grew up with a fella and played competitive sports with him alot; and his favourite saying before a big anything in sports was "I'm so excited I'm shittin' my pants".

I can't never see Ted no matter what his nerves are crying for... shittin' his pants.

[Ballboy]

If Kirkpatrick is there when the Pack picks, I would have a tough time with TT passing on him. Many people see him as the 2nd or 3rd DB behind Jenkins.


I dont think it will be a problem as I really dont see him falling that far.

[Joemailman]

Kirwan knows his stuff and he has Kirkpatrick going 7th. Jenkins is the CB most likely to slide because of some significant off-field issues.

[ND72]

Its the most, wonderful time, of the year...

[packrulz]

Nawrocki has a prety good reputation. Better than most draftniks, certainly better than Kiper or McShay. Mainly that covers the actually watching and digesting of game film. Predicting what lunatics like Dan Snyder or Mike Brown will actually do is more the realm of mystics and soothsayers to be honest.

The only other person I am aware of with a better rep for evaluating is Mayock. Speaking of which ...
Honestly, I never heard of him, but I can understand why he likes Dont'a Hightower though, I do too, just not at #11. Even Kiper and McShay only actually get a few correct.

[Fritz]

Any love for Jerel Worthy by the Packerrats? Could he be the answer at DE?

[ND72]

Any love for Jerel Worthy by the Packerrats? Could he be the answer at DE?

I've thought a lot about him lately. That sounded weird...

[Lurker64]

Any love for Jerel Worthy by the Packerrats? Could he be the answer at DE?

I wouldn't hate it, but I'd really like to land a frame guy if we draft a DE in the first. We've got a whole lot of technique guys with less than ideal frames (which is what Worthy would be), and literally no frame guys who need to work on technique.

I'd rather have Brockers, Still, Cox, and Reyes than Worthy.

I think Worthy can be a good player, but his best position (and high board) should be at the 3-tech spot.

[Joemailman]

http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound1.asp

7 round mock draft.

Packer picks:

1 (28) Andre Branch OLB Clemson
2 (59) Dwight Bentley CB Louisiana-Lafayette
3 (90) Antonio Allen SS South Carolina
4 (123) Derek Wolfe DE Cincinnati
4 (132) Quinton Saulsberry C Mississippi State
4 (133) Cyrus Gray RB Texas A&M
5 (163) Matt Konrath DE Virginia
6 (197) Tyrone Crawford DE Boise State
7 (224) Adrian Robinson OLB Temple
7 (235) Darron Thomas QB Oregon
7 (241) Terrence Frederick CB Texas A&M
7 (243) Jeff Fuller WR Texas A&M

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http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/mock-drafts

Chad Reuter (3-30-12) goes to Ted's favorite lineman college to select the Packer's 1st round pick.

Shea McClellin, DE, Boise St.

[Joemailman]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/mock-drafts

Chad Reuter (3-30-12) goes to Ted's favorite lineman college to select the Packer's 1st round pick.

Shea McClellin, DE, Boise St.

Daryn Colledge and ? :huh:

Actually, if he does draft McClellin, it will be to play OLB as he is listed as 260.

[pbmax]

Daryn Colledge and ? :huh:

Actually, if he does draft McClellin, it will be to play OLB as he is listed as 260.

I thought there was another lineman from there but it turns out it was only Korey Hall. I agree if this kid is the pick he would be OLB, but listed in college as DE.

[pbmax]

JSO and Silverstein have a roundup of Packer picks in round 1 (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/146200965.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed):

Clark Judge, CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/fullnflmockdraft-ClarkJudge) : Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin (4/3)

Pat Kirwan, CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/fullnflmockdraft-PatKirwan) : Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State (4/3)
Second round No. 59 -- Michael Brewster, C/OG Ohio State

Pete Prisco, CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/fullnflmockdraft-PetePrisco) : Andre Branch, DE, Clemson (4/3)

Will Brinson, CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/fullnflmockdraft-WillBrinson) : Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin (4/3)

Don Banks, SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/04/04/nfl.mock.draft.4/index.html?sct=nfl_t11_a0) : Andre Branch, DE, Clemson (4/4)

Brian Baldinger, NFL Network (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/mock-drafts/brian-baldinger/130100) : Shea McClellin, DE, Boise St. (4/4)

Mel Kiper, ESPN Insider (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7766381/mel-kiper-fourth-mock-draft-two-rounds) : Nick Perry, LB, USC (4/4)

Wes Bunting, National Football Post (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Mock-Draft-60-4140.html&page=2) : Nick Perry, DE/OLB, Southern Cal (4/4)

[woodbuck27]

For all the mock drafts that we will forget about 25 hours after the first round.

But for now, the replacement at Pro Football Weekly for the dearly departed shut in Joel Buschbaum, Nolan Nawrocki has the Packers taking Andre Branch at 28.

I just noticed the Patriots sitting at 27 ahead of the Pack with New Orleans pick. Odds on Ted wanting to get in front of them?

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/03/26/mock-draft-20

The odds on TT moving to a higher position to secure a certain defensive player is too difficult for me to even consider.

Instead I'm looking at positions #25 through #29 to see which players may more likely be available; the cost to move to #25 (the Denver Broncos pick) from our #28 pick to get that player.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php

The numerical value of pick #25 (Denver Broncos) is 720 and the Packers #28 pick at 660. The difference = 60.

To move to pick #25. Ted Thompson would have to offer his 4th round pick #123 (value 49) and 6th round pick at #197 (value 12.6); have the Broncos accept it. TT would still have 10 picks with all else remaining the same.

We may speculate on what TT may do 'till the cows come in'. I'm confident that he will do what's exactly necessary for our team.

[Fritz]

Wouldn't you love to see Ted's tiers?

[woodbuck27]

JSO and Silverstein have a roundup of Packer picks in round 1 (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/146200965.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed):

Clark Judge, CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/fullnflmockdraft-ClarkJudge) : Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin (4/3).... X Nope based in need otherwise. Yet... TT may take him if BPA.

Pat Kirwan, CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/fullnflmockdraft-PatKirwan) : Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State (4/3) .... **
Second round No. 59 -- Michael Brewster, C/OG Ohio State

Pete Prisco, CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/fullnflmockdraft-PetePrisco) : Andre Branch, DE, Clemson (4/3) .... Prisco and Banks like Andre Branch to us. ***

Will Brinson, CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/fullnflmockdraft-WillBrinson) : Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin (4/3) .... X .... Please see above assessment.

Don Banks, SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/04/04/nfl.mock.draft.4/index.html?sct=nfl_t11_a0) : Andre Branch, DE, Clemson (4/4) .... ***

Brian Baldinger, NFL Network (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/mock-drafts/brian-baldinger/130100) : Shea McClellin, DE, Boise St. (4/4) *

Mel Kiper, ESPN Insider (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7766381/mel-kiper-fourth-mock-draft-two-rounds) : Nick Perry, LB, USC (4/4)... ****

Wes Bunting, National Football Post (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Mock-Draft-60-4140.html&page=2) : Nick Perry, DE/OLB, Southern Cal (4/4) .... ****


* OLB Shea McLellan ... Boise State:Height: 6-3. Weight: 260. 40 Time: 4.62. 10-Yd Split: 1.57. Bench: 19. Vertical: 31.5. Broad: 9-10.
Arm: 32 3/4. Hand: 10 1/8.

Projected Round (2012): 2-3 ..... Comment woodbuck27: This seems correct.

3/20/12: " McClellin improved his draft stock with a quality season, but it was hurt when he weighed in at 248 pounds at the Senior Bowl. At that weight, McClellin is really only an option to be a 3-4 outside linebacker and does not have the size necessary to be a 4-3 base end.

In the month leading up to the Combine, McClellin added 12 pounds. He had a excellent performance in Indianapolis with a fast 40 and a great showing in the field drills. At the heavier weight, some 4-3 teams may consider McClellin for end, but he still will fit best as a 3-4 outside linebacker at the next level. " Source
http://walterfootball.com/draft2012OLB3-4.php (Typ.)

Comment woodbuck27: OLB Shea McLellan would be 'a reach' at pick #28.


** DT Jerel Worthy , Michigan State ... Height: 6-3. Weight: 305. Projected 40 Time: 4.99. Projected Round (2013): Top 15 Pick.

9/2/11: " Jerel Worthy is the consensus top defensive tackle in the draft class.

Note woodbuck27: See DT Fletcher Cox DT, Mississippi State who's moved up draft boards like a rocket. Back to Jerel Worthy:

" As a prospect, Worthy has some similarities to 2011 first-rounder Corey Liuget. Neither had big stat lines in 2010, yet both are considered to be game changers. Last year, Worthy had eight tackles for a loss and four sacks. Worthy has a good get off and is disruptive. Offenses showed their respect for Worthy by sending frequent double teams his way. Entering his junior season, Worthy could move his stock towards the very top of the draft if he is able to increase his production. If he decides to stay in school, it would be surprising but he would likely enter his senior season as the top tackle available. " (Typ. Please see above)

Comment woodbuck27: IMO this DT will be available close to our #28 pick but if TT covets him he may have to trade up. Jerel Worthy is a real possibility as our next draft pick.


*** OLB / DE Andre Branch : http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=68712&draftyear=2012&genpos=DE

Comment woodbuck27: This prospect is raw by reports I'm reading. He's certainly a strong possibility as TT's guy at #28.

**** DE/OLB or OLB/DE Nick Perry USC ..... http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1631896

Comment woodbuck27: I like this prospect at #28 and I'll add DE, Whitney Mercilus as another legitimate option for TT to pick.

Whitney Mercilus Scouting Report:

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=3078

[Deputy Nutz]

Jared Crick all day and everyday. The guy is the most polished defensive line product available.

[woodbuck27]

Wouldn't you love to see Ted's tiers?

I try to ignore 'the impossible'. I sometimes fail. (-:

This is the sort of information I have to go on RE: Round ONE projections:

http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Rankings.php

RE: Round TWO projections....... draftountdown.com today ..... Thurs. 5 April, 2012) has it as:

http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-2.php

GO Ted Thompson !

[woodbuck27]

Jared Crick all day and everyday. The guy is the most polished defensive line product available.

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2010/06/jared-crick-scouting-report.html

LINK to the New England Patriots Scouting Report on Jared Crick.

Strengths DL Jared Crick: " Elite height and length – Excellent football IQ and intangibles – Has a variety of pass-rush moves – Anchors well against the run – Able to create pressure from inside or outside – Has improved working against double teams – Ideally suited for 5-technique DE. "" Fr. LINK above

Weaknesses Jared Crick: " Could still stand to add bulk – Could get engulfed by some NFL linemen – Needs to be more consistent week to week – Torn pectoral muscle may drop him a bit on some boards. " Fr. LINK above

To expand on your toughts RE: Jared Crick as OUR First Round Pick:

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2724

GO PACKERS ! GO Ted Thompson !

[Smidgeon]

Wouldn't you love to see Ted's tiers?

It would be quite fascinating to see how he's got those set up and separated. Still wouldn't mean a lot to me since I don't really watch college ball. But it's be fascinating nonetheless.

[woodbuck27]

Branch and Mercilus are two I like if we stay at 28.

Things are changing rapidly on BIG Boards of late but to me it's a 'so what' !

There's enough information now available that 'a fella' who's really interested can assess what Ted Thompson might do in this draft and the key to that is what he'll do in Rounds 1-3.

I looked at this yesterday arond my interest in 'THE MASTERS' GO ! Phil Mickelson !!... and this morning (Easter Sundasy).

Happy Easter everyone. (-:

Round One

Who can Ted Thompson secure for us with his First Round one pick at #28 ?

One of these prospects will be avaiklable:

1. Devon Still, DT, Penn State
2. Dont'a Hightower, ILB, Alabama
3. Mark Barron, SS, Alabama
4. Vinny Curry, DE/OLB, Marshall
5. Ronnell Lewis, OLB/DE, Oklahoma
6. Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina
7. Andre Branch, DE, Clemson
8. Zach Brown, OLB, North

Round Two

If you research the TOP 100 prospects today one of the following are more than likely going to be available at Pick #59 and I will offer some of Ted Thompson's options.

These are prospects that today seem likely to be available to Ted thompson at Pick #59:

Markelle Martin, SS, Oklahoma State
Shea McClellin, DE/OLB, Boise State
Casey Hayward ,CB,Vanderbilt
Mychal Kendricks,LB,California
Alameda Ta'amu, DT,Washington
** Mitchell Schwartz, OT, California**
Cam Johnson, DE, Virginia.

Ted thompson has pick # 123 in the 4th Round with a trade value (TV) of 49 Pts. If he had to trade up to Pick position # 54 ... 'to get his guy' ... he might offer Pick #123.

Pick NO.163 in the 5th Round has a TV of 26 and offering that pick in a trade up 'might' move TT from Pick #59 two slots up to Pick #57.

Offering his 4th and 5th round picks or (a TV = 750 may get Ted Thompson all the way up to Pick NO. 52 and some of the following prospects come into play:


Jayron Hosley, CB, Virginia Tech
Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State
Harrison Smith, SS, Notre Dame
Lavonte David, OLB, Nebraska
Derek Wolfe, DT/DE, Cincinnati
Jake Bequette, DE, Arkansas
Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska
ROUND Three

Our GM Ted Thompson many options 'in the 3rd Round' in terms of staying put at Pick #90 Vs trading up.

Who might he choose in Round NO. 3 with Pick #90 ? One of these prospects will be available here:


1. Antonio Allen, SS, South Carolina
2. Billy Winn, DT/5T, Boise State
3. Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State
4. Tank Carder, ILB, TCU
5. Bobby Wagner, OLB/ILB, Utah State

6. Jonathan Massaquoi, OLB/DE, Troy

7. Chris Polk, RB, Washington

8. Keenan Robinson, OLB, Texas
9. Nigel Bradham, OLB, Florida State

10.** James Brown, OT, Troy **

11. Emmanuel Acho, OLB/ILB, Texas


GO Ted Thompson !

GO PACKERS GO !!

[Pugger]

For all the mock drafts that we will forget about 25 hours after the first round.

But for now, the replacement at Pro Football Weekly for the dearly departed shut in Joel Buschbaum, Nolan Nawrocki has the Packers taking Andre Branch at 28.

I just noticed the Patriots sitting at 27 ahead of the Pack with New Orleans pick. Odds on Ted wanting to get in front of them?

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/03/26/mock-draft-20

Why would NE get the Saints' spot?

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Why would NE get the Saints' spot?


The Patriots do what the patriots do best. Find incredible value for a draft pick and maximize it. New England traded the 28th overall pick in the first round tot he New Orleans Saints for a 2012 first round draft pick and a 2011 2nd round pick. Here is how the trade worked out:

Saints get –

2011 28th overall pick (Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama)

Patriots get –

2012 1st round draft pick

2011 2nd round pick (56 overall)

From patsfans.com, Derek Havens.

[pbmax]

Chad Reuter updates his mock on 4/6. Has Packers claiming a falling Courtney Upshaw with Konz still available.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/mock-drafts/chad-reuter/130101

[KYPack]

Wouldn't you love to see Ted's tiers?

So would half of the teams in the NFL

[smuggler]

all of the teams. all of them

[woodbuck27]

Chad Reuter updates his mock on 4/6. Has Packers claiming a falling Courtney Upshaw with Konz still available.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/mock-drafts/chad-reuter/130101

OLB Courtenay Upshaw isn't too shabby to us at #28. At #28 he's IMO a real bonus.

I'm surprized to see Michael Brockers going to Denver at#25 given that he's by some 'EXPERTS' NOT considered NFL ready.

patsfans.com ... Derek Havens MOCK ... has 'six OLman' being picked before our choice at #28. This surprizes me.

So ... It's my opinion we will NOT have a shot at OLB Courtney Upshaw unless TT trades up in Rd. 1.

[woodbuck27]

Wouldn't you love to see Ted's tiers?

I thought I responded to this before but in case I didn't or in any case .... it's this:

Would anyone but TT ... see TT's draft board?

[woodbuck27]

REVISION: woodbuck27: ** Shea McClellin OLB/DE. Today Mon. April 9, 2012.... I would remove this prospect from the group below. A group that I saw as possibly available for our SECOND ROUND pick at #59.

By the reports I'm gleening OLB Shea McClellin is rocketing up MOCK Draft boards.

Today Shea McClellin is being considered as high as a late Round ONE pick and some experts are saying he's an ideal fit for the New England Patriots pick at #27.

Ted Thompson will be on the clock for pick #28 unless he trades up or down.



Previous to today:

These are prospects that today seem likely to be available to Ted thompson at Pick #59:

Markelle Martin, SS, Oklahoma State

** Shea McClellin, DE/OLB, Boise State ** (see above)

Casey Hayward ,CB,Vanderbilt
Mychal Kendricks,LB,California
Alameda Ta'amu, DT,Washington
Mitchell Schwartz, OT, California
Cam Johnson, DE, Virginia.

[Joemailman]

Pat Kirwan's 2-round mock has Packers taking Jerel Worthy and Ben Jones.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/fullnflmockdraft-PatKirwan