What do All-Pro teams tell us about NFL Draft?

[woodbuck27]

http://nfl.si.com/2012/03/30/what-do-all-pro-teams-tell-us-about-nfl-draft/?sct=nfl_t11_a0

This Article is interesting:

"What do All-Pro teams tell us about NFL Draft? (http://nfl.si.com/2012/03/30/what-do-all-pro-teams-tell-us-about-nfl-draft/) "

Audibles: Chris Burke on the NFL fr. SI.Com

[channtheman]

The comments ripping the article represent my feelings as well. The article makes it sound like you need a #1 pick to get good players, especially at WR, which could not be further from the truth. I would never (or very rarely) spend a number 1 pick on a WR.

[sheepshead]

The biggest most expensive over-hyped crap shoot in all of sports. The NFL Draft.

[Fritz]

"What do All-Pro teams tell us about NFL Draft? "

Not much.

[woodbuck27]

" The moral of the story, based on the findings: There are very few patterns that guarantee successful drafting, and that the adage that you can find good players all throughout the draft — and sometimes afterward — holds true. "

Thus we may gain insight in Ted Thompson's strategy to often trade down in the draft to acquire more draft picks. That lines up with what this story suggsts:

Over the course of time it's like a mutual fund. Be patient as that wins the day.

In QUANTITY you may better ensure QUALITY.

Ted Thompson will get us to another Super Bowl if his plan coincides with Aaron Rodgers career success.

[sheepshead]

" The moral of the story, based on the findings: There are very few patterns that guarantee successful drafting, and that the adage that you can find good players all throughout the draft — and sometimes afterward — holds true. "

Thus we may gain insight in Ted Thompson's strategy to often trade down in the draft to acquire more draft picks. That lines up with what this story suggsts:

Over the course of time it's like a mutual fund. Be patient as that wins the day.

In QUANTITY you may better ensure QUALITY.

Ted Thompson will get us to another Super Bowl if his plan coincides with Aaron Rodgers career success.

duh!?

[woodbuck27]

duh!?


What .... does that response mean?

How can I respond to that?

Just a second.............OK, done.

I erased it from my memory bank.

[woodbuck27]

The biggest most expensive over-hyped crap shoot in all of sports. The NFL Draft.

sheepshead your challenging me to make this statement;

We're now entering one of the most exciting months of our NFL season as Packer fans. Many fans on this board are studing the field of eligible draft candidates to analyze and wonder just what 'new blood' our GM Ted Thompson and his team of Scouts will cull from their BIG BOARD.

It's your position that the College Draft is an 'expensive over-hyped crap shoot'.

I respectfully submit this:

If your even correct sheepshead; then all 32 NFL teams are on somewhat 'an equal footing' today.

So... let the games begin on Thursday evening April 26,2012. That 'as you put it 'over-hyped crap shoot' will have a large audience of very interested Green bay Packer and NFL fans.

GO ... GM Ted Thompson and the Green Bay Packers.

[sheepshead]

The article is further evidence of that. I'm not trying to harsh anyones gig, have fun with it that's fine. I am a casual observer and take it in with the reality of outcomes that it deserves. I also do not give GMs as much crap for bad picks. They are inevitable. I firmly believe that any GM given the proper deal should get out of the first round. I would do it every time.

[woodbuck27]

The article is further evidence of that. I'm not trying to harsh anyones gig, have fun with it that's fine. I am a casual observer and take it in with the reality of outcomes that it deserves. I also do not give GMs as much crap for bad picks. They are inevitable. I firmly believe that any GM given the proper deal should get out of the first round. I would do it every time.

Interesting post sheepshead . I've been thinking along the same lines as you suggest in this post. Trading that first round pick. I'll follow up with another post as that develops in my grey matter.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Kaufmann-1568.png/220px-Kaufmann-

Trader in 16th Century.

[woodbuck27]

Comment woodbuck27:

Packers GM Ted Thompson took his office in 2005, Thompson shaped the Packers into a championship-caliber team concentrating mostly on the college draft. Drafting and signing First Round draft picks such as QB Aaron Rodgers, T Bryan Bulaga, LB Clay Matthews and DT BJ Raji. He also signed players such as LB AJ Hawk and DT Justin Harrell that have been a disappointment to a clear bust.

I bellieve we need another season to judge how well Ted Thompson did with his draft Board in the 2011 draft. I omitted this draft from this post.

Another factor that has to be considered in terms of reserving addition of the 2011 drafted players and in terms of opinion and anaysis:

2011 was a strike shortened season. This may in time be 'in Final Analysis', a huge factor as the Packer defense fell from a top 5 Defense in the NFL in it's Super Bowl Championship season (2010); to the bottom and ranked 32nd Vs 'the Pass' in a 'pass happy' NFL. This is a huge concern that we are observing Ted Thompson react to so far in the 2012 season Free Agency period. Ted Thompson isn't done by recent reports, as he tools up for the draft.

http://blogs.greenbaypressgazette.com/blogs/gpg/insider/2011/04/28/ted-thompsons-draft-picks-by-position/

Ted Thompson’s draft picks by position (http://blogs.greenbaypressgazette.com/blogs/gpg/insider/2011/04/28/ted-thompsons-draft-picks-by-position/) (in 6 Drafts 2005-2010)


Apr. 28, 2011 ... Written by Mike Vandermause (mvandermause@gannett.com)

Total Picks: 58. Offense: 32. Defense: 25. Specialists: 1.

POSITION-BY-POSITION

O f f e n s e :

Quarterback (4): Aaron Rodgers (2005-1), Ingle Martin (2006-5a), Brian Brohm (2008-2b), Matt Flynn (2008-7a).

Running Back (3): Brandon Jackson (2007-2), DeShawn Wynn (2007-7a), James Starks (2010-6).

Fullback (2): Korey Hall (2007-6a), Quinn Johnson (2009-5a).

Tight End (3): Clark Harris (2007-7), Jermichael Finley (2008-3), Andrew Quarless (2010-5a).

Wide Receiver (8): Terrence Murphy (2005-2b), Craig Bragg (2005-6b), Greg Jennings (2006-2b), Cory Rodgers (2006-4a), James Jones (2007-3a), David Clowney (2007-5), Jordy Nelson (2008-2a), Brett Swain (2008-7b).

Tackle (6): Tony Moll (2006-5b), Breno Giacomini (2008-5), T.J. Lang (2009-4), Jamon Meredith (2009-5b), Bryan Bulaga (2010-1), Marshall Newhouse (2010-5b).

Guard (5): William Whitticker (2005-7b), Daryn Colledge (2006-2a), Jason Spitz (2006-3b), Allen Barbre (2007-4), Josh Sitton (2008-4b).

Center (1): Junius Coston (2005-5a).

D e f e n s e :

Defensive End (6): Michael Montgomery (2005-6a), Dave Tollefson (2006-7), Jeremy Thompson (2008-4a), Jarius Wynn (2009-6a), Mike Neal (2010-2), C.J. Wilson (2010-7).

Defensive Tackle (3): Johnny Jolly (2006-6a), Justin Harrell (2007-1), B.J. Raji (2009-1a).

Linebacker (7): Brady Poppinga (2005-4b), Kurt Campbell (2005-7a), A.J. Hawk (2006-1), Abdul Hodge (2006-3a), Desmond Bishop (2007-6b), Clay Matthews (2009-1b), Brad Jones (2009-7).

Cornerback (4): Mike Hawkins (2005-5b), Will Blackmon (2006-4b), Pat Lee (2008-2c), Brandon Underwood (2009-6b).

Safety (5): Nick Collins (2005-2a), Marviel Underwood (2005-4a), Tyrone Culver (2006-6b), Aaron Rouse (2007-3b), Morgan Burnett (2010-3).

Kicker (1): Mason Crosby (2007-6c).

Ted Thompson's First round Draft Picks Total = six (6) in his seven (7) drafts:

QB Aaron Rodgers (2005-1); T Bryan Bulaga (2010-1); DT's Justin Harrell (2007-1) and B.J. Raji (2009-1a); LB's A.J. Hawk (2006-1) and Clay Matthews (2009-1b),

Source: Packers Dope Sheet.