Colt McCoy

[PackerPro42]

Via the mothership... McCoy is on the trading block after the browns selected Brandon Weeden late in the first round. Is McCoy worth looking at as a backup QB? Obviously the price would have to be right, but as of now he'd be a nice upgrade over Harrell.

[Willard]

Wow. Brandon Weeden is 2 months older than Aaron Rodgers. I guess the Browns have determined that they don't have time to groom him. Throw him in there. Good luck with that Cleveland.

[KYPack]

Plus they bullshitted McCoy and told him they wouldn't draft a QB #1 this year, then did it.

Holmy was a goof as a GM in Seattle, he ain't much better as Pres in Cleveburg.

[mraynrand]

Plus they bullshitted McCoy and told him they wouldn't draft a QB #1 this year, then did it.

Holmy was a goof as a GM in Seattle, he ain't much better as Pres in Cleveburg.


KY, that's just-for-the-press crap. McCoy knew they were looking for a QB. They wanted RGIII, but didn't want to give up all the picks to make it happen. McCoy doesn't have starting chops, and he knows it.

[Upnorth]

KY, that's just-for-the-press crap. McCoy knew they were looking for a QB. They wanted RGIII, but didn't want to give up all the picks to make it happen. McCoy doesn't have starting chops, and he knows it.

I don't think I would give up on McCoy this quickly, get him a decent WR corp and see what he might do.

[Brandon494]

No thanks, Id rather get Russell Wilson :)

[Willard]

Colin Cowherd just said the Pack is negotiating with the Browns for McCoy. I heard it on the radio so it must be true.

[Brandon494]

Colin Cowherd just said the Pack is negotiating with the Browns for McCoy. I heard it on the radio so it must be true.

Yea I heard that too, hopefully it's only for a 6th rounder.

[mraynrand]

I'm one of the few people here in Cleveland who likes McCoy. I don't like him as a starter, but the guy had crapola at the skill positions during his time in Cleveland. He's 6'2" put he plays small. He does have some game to him - he knows how to compete and is mentally tough. He can't make all the throws, but is reasonably accurate when guys are actually open. He definitely compares well to Flynn. He's a career backup, who should be adequate in spot duty or even a 2-3 game stretch with the O talent GB has. I'd hate to see the Packers use anything more than a 6th round pick getting him though.

Brandon, I don't see Wilson making it to GB's round 4 picks, but if he does, they should get him.

[mraynrand]

Yea I heard that too, hopefully it's only for a 6th rounder.

Ha! We're on the same page!

[Scott Campbell]

Ha! We're on the same page!


Well if anyone should be, it's Gary Spivey.

[mraynrand]

Well if anyone should be, it's Gary Spivey.

I knew you were going to post that

[Scott Campbell]

I knew you were going to post that


And just how much will that pearl cost me, Gary?

[Ballboy]

This would really help the Packers, getting a backup that has played. He may not be the best QB in the NFL, but at least he has played and done some nice things. Working for the Pack in backup and mopup roles would do good. This would also possibly free up those 3rd-5th round picks to go after players they may help right away instead of spending those on a QB to bring up.

[sharpe1027]

He's bound to have more value somewhere where he would compete for a starting spot. I doubt the Packers would be willing to give up as much as a team that did not have a clear #1.

[sharpe1027]

This would really help the Packers, getting a backup that has played. He may not be the best QB in the NFL, but at least he has played and done some nice things. Working for the Pack in backup and mopup roles would do good. This would also possibly free up those 3rd-5th round picks to go after players they may help right away instead of spending those on a QB to bring up.

If the have to give up a 3rd round pick to get him, do they really gain much?

[Ballboy]

If the have to give up a 3rd round pick to get him, do they really gain much?


I was going on the assumption of the 6th or 7th round pick for McCoy.

[mraynrand]

He's bound to have more value somewhere where he would compete for a starting spot. I doubt the Packers would be willing to give up as much as a team that did not have a clear #1.

but you have to ask yourself - where would he really compete for a starting spot? I can't think of a place - maybe Arizona? - and the draft isn't even over. Teams with shaky starters will draft a QB. Colt is a backup.

[Scott Campbell]

He's bound to have more value somewhere where he would compete for a starting spot. I doubt the Packers would be willing to give up as much as a team that did not have a clear #1.


Where is he going to compete for a starting gig, if not in Cleveland?

[sheepshead]

Reports: Browns talking with Packers about trade for Colt McCoy
Apr
27
4/27/2012 10:54:46 AM
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The Browns are talking to Green Bay about trading quarterback Colt McCoy to the Packers, a source told the Packer Report per Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer. The Eagles might also be in the market for a backup, according to nflnetwork's Jason LaCanfora.

The Browns drafted quarterback Brandon Weeden with the No. 22 overall pick and said "he's the guy.''

The Packers have a sixth-round pick and four seventh-rounders that they can use to land McCoy. A player could also be involved. They need a backup to Aaron Rodgers after losing Matt Flynn to Seattle in free agency. The Eagles and Browns have traded several times in the past two seasons.

McCoy has not asked for a trade, according to LaCanfora, and is willing to come in and compete with Weeden. The Browns are initiating the talks.

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[mraynrand]

If the have to give up a 3rd round pick to get him, do they really gain much?

No! That would be a terrible waste. Pack needs the next Torrance Marshall!

[sharpe1027]

I was going on the assumption of the 6th or 7th round pick for McCoy.

I'd be fine with that (not that what I think matters).

[sharpe1027]

No! That would be a terrible waste. Pack needs the next Torrance Marshall!

I was thinking more along the lines of the next Matt Flynn.

[Scott Campbell]

The Packers have a sixth-round pick and four seventh-rounders that they can use to land McCoy.


Can't trade compensatory picks. LaCanfora ought to know that.

[Tony Oday]

We dont have space on the team for 12 picks so lets trade some :)

[sharpe1027]

Where is he going to compete for a starting gig, if not in Cleveland?

I thought there would be more teams interested, until I actually took the time to look. Maybe Minnesota?

[mraynrand]

Can't trade compensatory picks. LaCanfora ought to know that.

the 6 and two 7s are tradeable - they're not going to give up more than one pick, I would assume. The point is moot

[gbgary]

I'm one of the few people here in Cleveland who likes McCoy.

i kinda think he's got something. he'd be an ok back up.

[mraynrand]

I thought there would be more teams interested, until I actually took the time to look. Maybe Minnesota?

MN is all in with whatchamaface....shit - google - ..... Ponder. Yeah, they like him.

damn getting old sucks. There goes the brain!

[sharpe1027]

MN is all in with whatchamaface....shit - google - ..... Ponder. Yeah, they like him.

damn getting old sucks. There goes the brain!

I think they would have no problem bringing in competition for him. He's the starter by default, they have nobody else to turn to.

[mraynrand]

I think they would have no problem bringing in competition for him. He's the starter by default, they have nobody else to turn to.

Yet another Sage Rosenfels detractor identified! :lol: I bet MN drafts a QB - maybe the fella from Michigan State.

[Tony Oday]

JOE WEB!?!?!?!? He is the best QB in MN and that makes me smile

[ND72]

I would send a 6 or 7 for McCoy.

[sheepshead]

Unfortunately, Rodger's concussion history dictate we have a guy that can at least move the chains when called upon.

[Bossman641]

For a 6th? Sure, why not. We need a developmental guy anyways.

[Patler]

Cleveland newspaper reports that the Packers and Browns are talking:

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/04/reports_browns_talking_with_pa.html

[Smidgeon]

For a 6th? Sure, why not. We need a developmental guy anyways.

Agreed. And Colt has at least some talent. Better than Brohm for sure. And at least in Green Bay he'd have the coaching to maximize that and work for an organization who won't hang him out to dry with false promises every other month.

[Smidgeon]

Cleveland newspaper reports that the Packers and Browns are talking:

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/04/reports_browns_talking_with_pa.html

"The Browns initiated..." AKA "We'll call anyone we can that would possibly give us a pick for a guy we're spurning".

[DonHutson]

For what it's worth, Jason Wilde is saying the Packers are only interested in McCoy if he gets released:

http://espnwisconsin.com/page.php?page_id=278

[Tony Oday]

hell a 6th and a both 7ths...really do we need more bottom roster guys? We have 11 remaining picks and you know TT will get some for next year.

[Fritz]

Why trade a sixth rounder for an obvious career backup if you can draft a developmental guy with a fifth or sixth rounder, groom him, then trade him down the road?

Let Graham Harrell back up Rodgers. The team has gone into the season with shaky backup plans before. Brohm and Flynn, both rooks, were the backups at one point.

[sharpe1027]

McCoy is probably on par or better than a developmental guy you'd get with a fifth or sixth rounder. He still has the possibility of turning things around and improving, plus he has some valuable experience. I don't really care one way or the other.

[Upnorth]

I would love to see him with the pack, he has showed some skills and with a better set of skill positions around him and the MM qb school we could easily turn the 6th round pick into something more, plus have a decent backup. Any one heard anything new about Graham Harrell?

[pbmax]

Colin Cowherd just said the Pack is negotiating with the Browns for McCoy. I heard it on the radio so it must be true.

Did he actually hear it (or see it reported) or is Colin thinking again?

[pbmax]

Reports: Browns talking with Packers about trade for Colt McCoy
Apr
27
4/27/2012 10:54:46 AM
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The Browns are talking to Green Bay about trading quarterback Colt McCoy to the Packers, a source told the Packer Report per Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer. The Eagles might also be in the market for a backup, according to nflnetwork's Jason LaCanfora.

The Browns drafted quarterback Brandon Weeden with the No. 22 overall pick and said "he's the guy.''

The Packers have a sixth-round pick and four seventh-rounders that they can use to land McCoy. A player could also be involved. They need a backup to Aaron Rodgers after losing Matt Flynn to Seattle in free agency. The Eagles and Browns have traded several times in the past two seasons.

McCoy has not asked for a trade, according to LaCanfora, and is willing to come in and compete with Weeden. The Browns are initiating the talks.

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Thanks for the fast answer Sheep! Though if the Browns initiated, then I smell a leak intended to create a market. You never know, works with baseball owners all the time.

[pbmax]

For what it's worth, Jason Wilde is saying the Packers are only interested in McCoy if he gets released:

http://espnwisconsin.com/page.php?page_id=278

I am sure that was unintentional, but Wilde's timing is great.

Holmgren to GB: How much will you give us for McCoy?

Thompson: Depends, when will you be releasing him?

[sharpe1027]

Thompson: Hmm, what would be fair? How about this: once you release McCoy, we'll sign McCoy as a free agent and then you are welcome to sign Ryan Grant?

[Scott Campbell]

I am sure that was unintentional, but Wilde's timing is great.

Holmgren to GB: How much will you give us for McCoy?

Thompson: Depends, when will you be releasing him?


Does he clear waivers?

[pbmax]

Does he clear waivers?

Might not. You get him for 2 years cheaply. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/colt-mccoy/

[Scott Campbell]

Might not. You get him for 2 years cheaply. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/colt-mccoy/


So a late pick basically keeps him from being exposed to the waiver wire.

[Pugger]

I have no problem with getting him for some late picks. And if Flynn shines in Seattle teams will come sniffing around McCoy after he has a couple of years in MM's QB school. :-)

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm probably the biggest McCoy fan on here. I think in the right situation he can be a decent starter. Not great, but he can get you by. I'd love to get him for late picks. We'll see. There's a glaring hole at backup QB. Yes, I'm very worried about Harrell being our backup QB for this year.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I'm probably the biggest McCoy fan on here. I think in the right situation he can be a decent starter. Not great, but he can get you by. I'd love to get him for late picks. We'll see. There's a glaring hole at backup QB. Yes, I'm very worried about Harrell being our backup QB for this year.

Harrell Hater. Shame on you. To think I almost let you buy me a beer once.

[MadScientist]

Dubious of the idea. Colt should be on the last year of his contract, so the Packers would be giving up a pick for a 1 year backup.

[pbmax]

Dubious of the idea. Colt should be on the last year of his contract, so the Packers would be giving up a pick for a 1 year backup.

He isn't a FA until 2014. Two years left on 4 year deal signed in 2010

[Guiness]

I was wondering about his contract. If it's reasonable, you'd think he would be worth the late round pick.

Are the Browns anxious to get him out of town? It's not like he's an entrenched starter that's going to kick up a big fuss over having some competition. Maybe because they outright lied to him and don't want to deal with that? If they can't get a pick for this draft for him, I see no reason for them to release him outright.

[pbmax]

I wonder if his finger/hand is healthy after that terrible shockwave James Harrison sent through McCoy's head during the Steeler-Browns game last year.

[Sparkey]

I'd pass on McCoy. There is no upside left in him so there is no possibilty to pawn him off for a higher pick in a year or two.

[KYPack]

KY, that's just-for-the-press crap. McCoy knew they were looking for a QB. They wanted RGIII, but didn't want to give up all the picks to make it happen. McCoy doesn't have starting chops, and he knows it.

Yeah, yer probably right, but...

I like this kid. He got his ass whipped last year and showed a lot of "tough it out" coming back in.

Also I think Holmy is out of his ass up in Cleve and running that franchise into the Lake from whence it came.

Colt does play small, but he's showed me a lot of guts. we should be able to pick him up on the wire if we want to take a look.

[mraynrand]

Yeah, yer probably right, but...

I like this kid. He got his ass whipped last year and showed a lot of "tough it out" coming back in.

Also I think Holmy is out of his ass up in Cleve and running that franchise into the Lake from whence it came.

Colt does play small, but he's showed me a lot of guts. we should be able to pick him up on the wire if we want to take a look.

I like Colt McCoy too - but he's a placeholder starter at best. I also think Holmy is gonna make it happen in Cleveland. It doesn't help that they're possibly in the toughest Division in football, but I see them winning 8+ in 2012.