OFFICIAL DAY THREE 2012......DRAFT DAY THREAD

[RashanGary]

Raji
Pickett
Hargrove
Worthy
Daniels


Shit, I don't care who's 6th, we have a complete shakeup on the DL and all 3 additions are the pass rush type.

[smuggler]

For those who are skeptical of the Daniels pick, Cullen Jenkins was undrafted in 2003 for the same concerns. The exact same concerns.

[Guiness]

Raji
Pickett
Hargrove
Worthy
Daniels


Shit, I don't care who's 6th, we have a complete shakeup on the DL and all 3 additions are the pass rush type.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Perry lining up with his hand in the dirt as well.

[Lurker64]

Boy, the Packers aren't fucking around with the front 7 in this draft. A big pass rushing OLB and two quick pass rushing type DL.

You'd almost think that Dom was installing the 4-3...

[gbgary]

WOW, those are great numbers, and I see why TT drafted him.

great tackler with speed. just what we needed.

[Guiness]

For those who are skeptical of the Daniels pick, Cullen Jenkins was undrafted in 2003 for the same concerns. The exact same concerns.

Definitely some parallels there.

[channtheman]

I love the focus on getting pressure on the QB. A huge change last year that made both Shields and Williams look worse was the lack of any QB pressure.

[RashanGary]

Our 2 DL are gap shooters. Our OLB is an all around outside pass rusher. Something tells me our ability to get after the QB is going to be a little better.

[woodbuck27]

I had the notes on McMillian in the "safety dance" thread.

Jerron McMillian, SS, Maine
5'11” 203 lbs Round 7
Tackle-machine with an NFL body. Not much of a ball-hawk but the Packers worked him out so they must at least like him as a special teamer with upside.
40 Yrd Dash: 4.35 (p)
20 Yrd Dash: 2.53 (p)
10 Yrd Dash: 1.40 (p)
Vertical Jump: 39 (p)
Broad Jump: 10'06” (p)
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.22
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 17
3-Cone Drill: 6.69

WOW!..on those numbers.

Where did you reference them from?

[RashanGary]

You'd almost think that Dom was installing the 4-3...

I think there is a myth that 3-4 DL shouldn't get after the QB.

[gbgary]

no reflection on his playing ability but mcmillan is clueless about the Packers and doesn't impress with his interview with the media. lot's of one word answers. faking his way through it.

[Bretsky]

no reflection on his playing ability but daniels is clueless about the Packers and doesn't impress with his interview with the media. lot's of one word answers.


Worst interview ever= Torrence Marshall

[woodbuck27]

I would have been okay with Winn there... why not Winn and Daniels with the back-to-back picks??

Dump Wilson, Wynn, Green, Muir... for a start :)

Why Daniels over Winn?


Billy Winn (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/64298.html) ; Boise State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/106.html) ... 2.53 Grade


DaJohn Harris (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/68540.html) ;USC (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/370.html) 2.50


Josh Chapman (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/69160.html) ;Alabama (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/20.html) Colts (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/colts.html) 5 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/5.html) 1 (136) 2.49


Travian Robertson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/63519.html); South Carolina (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/78.html) 2.47


Mike Daniels (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/68481.html); Iowa (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/48.html) to Packers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/packers.html) @ 4 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/4.html) 37 (132) ... 2.46 Grade


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/DT.html#ixzz1tMTSCEw5

[HarveyWallbangers]

Nick Collins = 5'11" safety from small school who ran the 40 in 4.37 at the scouting combine.
Jerron McMillan = 5'11" safety from small school who ran the 40 in 4.36 at his Pro Day.

Just saying.
:)

[Brandon494]

Who was saying TT doesn't focus on defense in the draft again? :)

[Lurker64]

I think there is a myth that 3-4 DL shouldn't get after the QB.

It's mostly a joke since the guys we drafted are perceived by the media to be "better fits in the 4-3" since the mental image of the 3-4 is the 2-gap, run-stuffing system that Hank Bullough ran in the 80s, so you want tall, long, stout guys.

Our base defense is the 2-4-5 nickel anyway.

[gbgary]

i mistakenly wrote daniels in my last post...it was mcmillan.

daniels speaking now.

[Guiness]

McMillian being interviewed on packers.com right now.

-he was a little surprised to be picked where he was
-didn't expect to be invited to combine
-their pro day was poorly attended, he was nervous after it, didn't think there was interest
-GB already feels like home, defensive coaches made him feel comfortable
-happy with the opportunity coming from a small school
-a fan of Nick Collins
-agent is Abu Topman (?)

Saying a lot of good things, came off very humble, happy to be drafted and still playing football.

[Lurker64]

i mistakenly wrote daniels in my last post...it was mcmillan.

Why would McMillian be clueless about the Packers, they had him in for a visit?

[Brandon494]

Nick Collins = 5'11" safety from small school who ran the 40 in 4.37 at the scouting combine.
Jerron McMillan = 5'11" safety from small school who ran the 40 in 4.36 at his Pro Day.

Just saying.
:)

I don't trust pro day numbers, he ran a 4.56 at the combine but had a 36.5 vertical which was top 5 for safeties in this draft.

[Guiness]

no reflection on his playing ability but mcmillan is clueless about the Packers and doesn't impress with his interview with the media. lot's of one word answers. faking his way through it.

??

were we listening to the same thing?

[wist43]

Who was saying TT doesn't focus on defense in the draft again? :)

Ted finally got the memo I guess...

He should have done this last year.

[Guiness]

Worst interview ever= Torrence Marshall

And Nick Collins! I remember listening to it and thinking 'wow, this is going to be something'

[HarveyWallbangers]

Last year, we had the 2nd ranked defense and the 9th ranked offense.

[Bretsky]

Ted finally got the memo I guess...

He should have done this last year.


Agree; just think if he'd have drafted Jamall Sheard and then Justin Houston last yr.....or Sheard/DeMarco/Sam Acho last year...it's fun to second guess though :)

[Upnorth]

For those who are skeptical of the Daniels pick, Cullen Jenkins was undrafted in 2003 for the same concerns. The exact same concerns.

If PB undervalues him they could almost be clones!

[HarveyWallbangers]

I don't trust pro day numbers, he ran a 4.56 at the combine but had a 36.5 vertical which was top 5 for safeties in this draft.

I agree. He looks athletic though. Sometimes, kids are nervous and don't run well at the combine. 4.56 was actually good for a safety. Ranked near the top. The fastest safety ran 4.50 at the combine.

[gbgary]

Why would McMillian be clueless about the Packers, they had him in for a visit?

clueless in that he didn't really know much about the team, history, players. you had to hear him to understand.

[Lurker64]

If PB undervalues him they could almost be clones!

I think Cullen Jenkins is a wee bit taller.

Daniels is a wee bit tougher, though.

[Bretsky]

Tank Cardner.....to the Bills......

[Upnorth]

Last year, we had the 2nd ranked defense and the 9th ranked offense.

Not to be a stickler, but two years ago...

[gbgary]

??

were we listening to the same thing?

had to be...i guess we interpreted it differently. all the other player interviews left me with a positive feeling...this one left me...meh. like i said, it's got nothing to do with his playing ability. i hope he's rookie of the year.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Last year, we had the 2nd ranked defense and the 9th ranked offense.
Not to be a stickler, but two years ago...

Ummm... at last year's draft we had the 2nd ranked defense and the 9th ranked offense. The point being that our defense looked in better shape than our offense at this time last year. Hindsight is 20/20 and it's easy to play couch GM.

It was a response to wist's post


Ted finally got the memo I guess...

He should have done this last year.

[Lurker64]

I think I understand the Daniels pick now.

It's exactly the same thing as when the Lions took Ronnell Lewis. The Lions are a 4-3 team, and Lewis is small and stupid. So he's not going to play SLB, and he's too small to really hold up on the DL full time.

But what you can do with a 240 lb DE in a 4-3 or a 290 lb DL in a 3-4, is put that guy in for packages and get after the QB. So if you're comfortable with a 4-3 team taking an undersized outside pass rusher in the fourth, you can be okay with a 3-4 team taking an undersized inside pass rusher in the fourth.

I am entirely at peace.

[Upnorth]

Ummm... at last year's draft we had the 2nd ranked defense and the 9th ranked offense. The point being that our defense looked in better shape than our offense at this time last year. Hindsight is 20/20 and it's easy to play couch GM.

It was a response to wist's post

I agreed with your point, I was talking seasons, you ment the draft. I misunderstood the time frame you were using.

[woodbuck27]

http://cache.profootballweekly.com/2012/04/28/pick-by-pick-analysis-round-four-2


37 (132) Green Bay Packers (compensatory selection): DT Mike Daniels, Iowa
Daniels is an odd fit for a 3-4 front, but he is very quick and active and likely will be trusted to make an impact on the inside as a nickel rusher.


38 (133) Green Bay Packers (compensatory selection): SS Jeron McMillian, Maine
With Nick Collins recently being let go and Charlie Peprah being an average starter, the Packers had a need at the safety position.

McMillian tested very well at the Combine and has special-teams ability.

[woodbuck27]

The Pack is back on with Pick #163..making some kinda move with the Pat's to get this pick back.

[woodbuck27]

28 163 Green Bay Packers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/packers.html) (from Green Bay (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/packers.html))


and pick ...Terrell Manning; (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/83298.html)OLB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/OLB.html); North Carolina State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/34.html)

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=83589&draftyear=2013&genpos=OLB

Some promise in this report.

[gbgary]

let's trade our next 3 picks and get an o-lineman now in the 5th.

did what i hoped but went D again.

[channtheman]

Anyone know the trade details?

[Guiness]

The Pack is back on with Pick #163..making some kinda move with the Pat's to get this pick back.

Got our original pick back? Don't think I've heard of that before! Can't wait to see what hoody genius did this time.

Saw on packers.com that out new DT Daniels was an FB/HB in high school, an ran a 4.77 40!

[gbgary]

Anyone know the trade details?

traded all 3 of our remaining tradeable picks for ne's 5th rounder. we only have out two compensatory picks in the 7th left.

[HarveyWallbangers]

OLB Terrell Manning

[KYPack]

Anyone know the trade details?

That is our pick BACK again from NE in our tradeup yesterday. we sent NE a 6 & both 7's for that pick back.

The Hoodie and TT are setting up their own little underground railroad.

You trade a pick one day for the move-up, then ya get it back the next day.

It's a rent-a-pick deal.

[Carolina_Packer]

Didn't they place Lawrence Guy on IR last year after training camp? He's like getting another defensive lineman prospect this year since last season was lost, although he had the classroom time, film study, etc. I wonder if he has a chance coming back? If any of these guys are impactful right away, they should be able to no only defend the run better, but push the pocket and get after the QB. If we cause the QB to move their feet and disrupt plays (not as concerned about sacks), that would help get more offensive possessions.

[gbgary]

skins release qb john beck. worth a look? can he be better than mccoy?

[woodbuck27]

Got our original pick back? Don't think I've heard of that before! Can't wait to see what hoody genius did this time.

Saw on packers.com that out new DT Daniels was an FB/HB in high school, an ran a 4.77 40!

I think we might have given up two of our seventh round picks.

TT style of drafting reminds me of 'an Old Timer' from back in the Gold Rush days.

Just enjoying the whole thing as he pans for GOLD.

[gbgary]

Didn't they place Lawrence Guy on IR last year after training camp? He's like getting another defensive lineman prospect this year since last season was lost, although he had the classroom time, film study, etc. I wonder if he has a chance coming back? If any of these guys are impactful right away, they should be able to no only defend the run better, but push the pocket and get after the QB. If we cause the QB to move their feet and disrupt plays (not as concerned about sacks), that would help get more offensive possessions.

would make the defensive backs jobs easier too.

[woodbuck27]

That is our pick BACK again from NE in our tradeup yesterday. we sent NE a 6 & both 7's for that pick back.

The Hoodie and TT are setting up their own little underground railroad.

You trade a pick one day for the move-up, then ya get it back the next day.

It's a rent-a-pick deal.

Yes! ............... Their 'Shadow Allies'.

[Lurker64]

Terrell Manning is perhaps the best blitzing ILB in the draft. The issue is his knees.

[Lurker64]

TERRELL MANNING | NC State 6-21/8|237 lbs|4JR Laurinburg, NC (Scotland County HS) 7/26/1989 (age 22) #35
A two-year starter, Terrell Manning was a four-star LB recruit out of HS, choosing NC State over Alabama, Florida and Clemson. After redshirting in 2008 from a HS knee injury, he saw immediate action in 2009 as a RS freshman (12 gp/2 st), finishing with 42 tkls, 2.5 tfl, 1 pbu, 2 FF and 1 INT. Manning became a full-time starter in 2010 as a sophomore (13 gp/13 st), recording 75 tkls, 10.5 tfl, 4.5 sacks, 3 pbu, 2 FF and 1 INT. He battled a knee injury in 2011 as a junior (11 gp/11 st), finishing with 76 tkls, 14.5 tfl, 5.5 sacks, 5 pbu, 4 FF, 1 FR and 3 INTs, earning Second Team All-ACC honors. Manning decided to skip his senior year and go pro.

STRENGTHS: Manning has good size for the position with effective length (321⁄4” arms). He plays fast with fluid movement skills and quick feet, showing some explosion to accelerate quickly with closing burst. Manning has natural body control and coordination to play over his feet through contact. He displays quick read/react skills and uses his eyes well, playing aggressive and active. Manning has strong hands to secure tackles and is a hard hitter, seeking out contact. He is tough and self-confident, trusting his abilities – toughed out injuries. Manning is an effective blitzer with some rush moves to avoid blocks and makes a lot of plays behind the LOS – led ACC in tfl in 2011 (14.5). He was productive over his career vs. both the run and pass (8 FF and 5 INTs over his career).

WEAKNESSES: Manning lacks great muscle build on his body and needs to get stronger throughout his frame – lacks stout lower body power. He needs to do a better job disengaging at the POA to fight through the trash, struggling to keep himself clean through contact. Manning has inconsistent tackling technique and needs to stay low and drive through the ballcarrier to finish – struggles to break down in space and uses inconsistent leverage. He has streaky discipline and will play overaggressive, taking himself out of the play. Manning needs to stay football-focused and can be discouraged too easily. He has strong durability concerns after to serious knee injuries – missed 2008 and part of 2011.

OVERALL: Manning suffered a serious knee injury in HS and missed his initial season at NC State because of it – missed two games in early 2011 after minor knee surgery, but made a quick return to the field. He flows well with the action and does a nice job getting to the play with a nose for the ball. Manning is an athletic and active defender who is always around the ball with effective range, playing speed and football awareness, but needs to refine his tackling technique and get stronger to disengage and sift through the garbage – underrated with WLB starting potential if he can stay healthy.

PROJECTION: 3rd Round COMPARISON: Daryl Washington WORKOUT RESULTS: 4.75 40-YD DASH // 22 REPS // 32.5” V // 9’6” BJ // 7.18 3C // 4.43 SS

[channtheman]

Thanks gbgary. Now I'd like to see a flyer on a QB and an OL Center type that we can groom for the future.

[woodbuck27]

http://walterfootball.com/draft2012OLB.php

http://walterfootball.com/college/NCState_logo.gif Terrell Manning*, OLB, N.C. State

Height: 6-2. Weight: 237.
40 Time: 4.63. Bench: 22.
Vertical: 32.5. Broad: 9-6.
Arm: 32 1/4

Projected Round (2012): 4-5.

4/25/12: Manning had 76 tackles with 14.5 tackles for a loss, 5.5 sacks, five passes broken up, three interceptions and four forced fumbles in 2011.

He has some speed and playmaking ability, but should have stayed for his senior season. Manning has added more bulk for the NFL. He performed well at the Combine.

8/23/11: Terrell Manning had a solid sophomore season with 75 tackles and 10.5 tackles for a loss. Entering his third year as a starter, he is going to have to step up and be the man for the Wolfpack defense with Nate Irving moving on to the NFL.

Manning had a solid debut as a freshman with 42 tackles and 2.5 tackles for a loss. He should add some more bulk for the NFL.

[Freak Out]

Trade fest.

[gbgary]

Terrell Manning is perhaps the best blitzing ILB in the draft. The issue is his knees.

he only missed two weeks. must not have been much of anything. at one point thought to be a 2nd rounder. a steal in the making perhaps?
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/149368625.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

[Carolina_Packer]

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=2952778 More stuff on Manning.

[woodbuck27]

The Pack is back on with Pick #163..making some kinda move with the Pat's to get this pick back.


GREEN BAY PACKERS Draft so far after five Rounds:


l1 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/1.html)28 (28) Nick Perry (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/80572.html); OLB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/OLB.html); USC (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/370.html)


2 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/2.html) 19 (51) Jerel Worthy (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/83357.html); DT (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/DT.html); Michigan State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/365.html)


2 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/2.html) 31 (62) Casey Hayward (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/84357.html); CB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/CB.html) ;Vanderbilt (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/80.html)


4 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/4.html) 37 (132) * Mike Daniels (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/68481.html); DT (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/DT.html); Iowa (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/48.html)


4 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/4.html) 38 (133) * Jerron McMillian (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/69533.html) ;S (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/S.html); Maine (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/25.html)


5 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/5.html) 28 (163) Terrell Manning (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/83298.html); OLB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/OLB.html) North Carolina State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/34.html) **


** Ok so to get the Pick at #163 overall back from the Pats... it appears the Packers gave up their 6th Round Pick at #197 overall and Picks #224 and #235 overall in the 7th round.


Packers have these picks remaining in the 7th Round. Their Compensatory Picks:


7 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/7.html) 34 (241) *


7 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/7.html) 36 (243) *

[Carolina_Packer]

Well, you gotta give them some credit. They were 15-1 but one of the worst D's statistically in history, and were not afraid to keep addressing the most glaring need; they got after it. The offense is getting Alex Green back and Brandon Saine provides depth. They can likely find someone in UFA land as an RB prospect. I wouldn't mind seeing an offensive line prospect, perhaps one WR prospect. If they were super concerned about backup QB, I'm sure they would have gone that route by now. Perhaps they can pick up a vet free agent as an insurance policy.

[mraynrand]

Ummm... at last year's draft we had the 2nd ranked defense and the 9th ranked offense. The point being that our defense looked in better shape than our offense at this time last year. Hindsight is 20/20 and it's easy to play couch GM.

It was a response to wist's post

Good post Harv

[gbgary]

tt at the podium...

[woodbuck27]

Here's the Complete Round Five Results:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/5.html

[Brandon494]

Loving this draft! Defense! Defense! Defense!

[pbmax]

It's mostly a joke since the guys we drafted are perceived by the media to be "better fits in the 4-3" since the mental image of the 3-4 is the 2-gap, run-stuffing system that Hank Bullough ran in the 80s, so you want tall, long, stout guys.

Our base defense is the 2-4-5 nickel anyway.

Well, if you actually need to defend the run from a 3-4, the DL need to be big and the trend is toward taller at DE and that post dates Chuck Fairbanks. However, no one runs as much as the used to. And second, none of these guys (maybe Worthy) starts in base 3-4. These are all sub package guys. And given the percentage of sub snaps the Packers play, devoting a roster spot or three to it makes sense.

However, the question then becomes which base 3-4 position loses its backup and do you have any depth for the base 3-4?

[pbmax]

That is our pick BACK again from NE in our tradeup yesterday. we sent NE a 6 & both 7's for that pick back.

The Hoodie and TT are setting up their own little underground railroad.

You trade a pick one day for the move-up, then ya get it back the next day.

It's a rent-a-pick deal.

That reminds me of another NE-GB waiver system.

[woodbuck27]

Here is the Safety situation in this draft after the Fifth Round:


POSITIONS - S
Mark Barron (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/84087.html)Alabama (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/20.html)Buccaneers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/buccaneers.html)1 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/1.html)7 (7)3.17


Harrison Smith (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/69404.html)Notre Dame (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/103.html)Vikings (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/vikings.html)1 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/1.html)29 (29)2.84


George Iloka (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/79211.html)Boise State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/106.html)Bengals (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/bengals.html)5 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/5.html)32 (167)2.80


Trenton Robinson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/83344.html)Michigan State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/365.html) 2.69


Brandon Taylor (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/79656.html)LSU (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/82.html)Chargers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/chargers.html)3 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/3.html)10 (73)2.65


Antonio Allen (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/74661.html)South Carolina (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/78.html) 2.59


randon Hardin (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/68629.html)Oregon State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/74.html)Bears (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/bears.html)3 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/3.html)17 (79)2.57


Markelle Martin (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/78784.html)Oklahoma State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/46.html) 2.53


Corey White (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/80704.html)Samford (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/413.html)Saints (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/saints.html)5 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/5.html)27 (162)2.42


Aaron Henry (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/68645.html)Wisconsin (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/53.html) 2.41


Justin Bethel (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/81750.html)Presbyterian (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/24.html)Cardinals (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/cardinals.html)6 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/6.html)7 (177)2.40


Sean Richardson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/84367.html)Vanderbilt (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/80.html) 2.39


Josh Bush (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/67555.html)Wake Forest (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/39.html) 2.38


Christian Thompson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/84164.html)South Carolina State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/392.html)Ravens (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/ravens.html)4 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/4.html)35 (130)2.37'


Duke Ihenacho (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/73503.html)San Jose State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/59.html) 2.36


Charles Mitchell (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/84252.html)Mississippi State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/85.html) 2.35


Cyhl Quarles (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/67563.html)Wake Forest (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/39.html) 2.33


Jordan Bernstine (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/68467.html)Iowa (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/48.html) 2.32


Jerron McMillian (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/69533.html);Maine (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/25.html) >>>Packers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/packers.html) @ 4 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/4.html)th Rd Pick 38 (Pick #133 overall) 2.30


Johnny Thomas (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/81215.html)Oklahoma State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/46.html) 2.29


Robert Blanton (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/86909.html)Notre Dame (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/103.html)Vikings (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/vikings.html)5 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/5.html)4 (139)2.28


Phillip Thomas (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/96799.html)Syracuse (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/355.html) 2.27


Chad Faulcon (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/999000.html)Montclair State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/227.html) 2.26


JoJo Nicolas (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/68008.html)Miami (FL) (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/10.html) 2.25


D'Anton Lynn (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/88451.html)Penn State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/52.html)

[mraynrand]

Loving this draft! Defense! Defense! Defense!

THe draft is a stark admission that there is a lot of crap on the current defensive roster.

[gbgary]

manning interview...very positive, confident sounding, young man. says he's better than some of the guys picked before him. great attitude it seems.

[woodbuck27]

DT status in the Draft just into Rd. 6:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/DT.html

[woodbuck27]

OLB Status just into the sixth round:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/OLB.html

[pbmax]

T2 asked about all the trading:

tom silverstein ‏ @TomSilverstein
TT: Horrible. I'm not my father's son anymore, Thompson joked about trading up so much.

Jason Wilde ‏ @jasonjwilde
Thompson on trading away picks: "It's horrible. I'm not my father's son anymore. It's pathetic. But in this case I felt it was appropriate."

[Deputy Nutz]

Guys I like that could possibly be there in the 7th round

Audie Cole, ILB NC ST. 6-4 245

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1272213/audie-cole

Mike Brewster, C Ohio St. 6-4 313
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1620010/mike-brewster

Cam Johnson, DE Virginia 6-3 265
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1724711/cam-johnson

Travis Lewis, OLB 6-1 245
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1254435/travis-lewis

[Deputy Nutz]

T2 asked about all the trading:

tom silverstein ‏ @TomSilverstein
TT: Horrible. I'm not my father's son anymore, Thompson joked about trading up so much.

Jason Wilde ‏ @jasonjwilde
Thompson on trading away picks: "It's horrible. I'm not my father's son anymore. It's pathetic. But in this case I felt it was appropriate."

Thompson shows sense of humor, hell froze over

[SkinBasket]

Guys I like that could possibly be there in the 7th round

Cam Johnson, DE Virginia 6-3 265
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1724711/cam-johnson


You stole my negro.

[Lurker64]

If Chris Polk is there somehow in the 7th round, I don't care if his shoulders are so bad he'll miss the entire season, if he's going to play football for you at any point in the next four years he's worth a flyer. Arian Foster kind of situation.

[Brandon494]

If Chris Polk is there somehow in the 7th round, I don't care if his shoulders are so bad he'll miss the entire season, if he's going to play football for you at any point in the next four years he's worth a flyer. Arian Foster kind of situation.

Thinking the samething especially for a 7th.

[Lurker64]

However, the question then becomes which base 3-4 position loses its backup and do you have any depth for the base 3-4?

I think if they really need to defend the run this year, you will see some four man fronts.

[mission]

If Chris Polk is there somehow in the 7th round, I don't care if his shoulders are so bad he'll miss the entire season, if he's going to play football for you at any point in the next four years he's worth a flyer. Arian Foster kind of situation.

It's a degenerative hip, but I'm with you. Even if you could get a couple decent seasons...

[Deputy Nutz]

I am surprised Billy Winn is still around

[gbgary]

I am surprised Billy Winn is still around

yup. and that tall, fast wr streeter...what's up with him?


edit: ravens just picked up streeter.

[Scott Campbell]

I wonder if Capers would have been able to rip off 6 straight defensive players if Philbin was still here.

[ND72]

So I just got home to see what we did today. MAN, amazing how Teddy's board has worked that the BPA is on defense every pick! Anything exciting about today's picks?

[wist43]

Ummm... at last year's draft we had the 2nd ranked defense and the 9th ranked offense. The point being that our defense looked in better shape than our offense at this time last year. Hindsight is 20/20 and it's easy to play couch GM.

It was a response to wist's post


Good post Harv

Not sure what you guys are talking about... home post-op, flyin' high. Even thru the fog, I'm enjoying the draft though - no thinking allowed.

As I said in another post - Ted finally got the memo. I could clearly see the potential for bad happenins last off season; and I'm just as guilty of one thing that Ted is - put faith in Neal. The front seven as a whole?? I haven't been happy with for years.

I've been saying it for a long time - the front seven lack front line talent and depth; and the players are not well suited to their roles in either the base or sub packages. After looking at TT go absolutely nuts on front seven picks - I guess Ted agrees - finally ;)

Round 1, Nick Perry (OLB)
Round 2, Jerel Worthy (DT/DE)
Round 4, Mike Daniels (DE, sub inside pass rusher) - like this pick.
Round 5, Terrell Manning (OLB).

All 6 picks so far on defense... and 4 of them in the front seven; and all 4 of those have the skill sets necessary to fill a specific role in an attacking 3-4.

I'd say that, yes, TT finally got the memo; and just for having the balls to acknowledge how dysfunctional his front seven was - 5 years from now, I'll stand behind TT's efforts in this draft.

I applaud TT today.

[Lurker64]

I am surprised Billy Winn is still around

I've heard reports that he's a complete and utter tool. It's unlikely that's enough for a DND though.

[Deputy Nutz]

You said, "tool".

[gbgary]

So I just got home to see what we did today. MAN, amazing how Teddy's board has worked that the BPA is on defense every pick! Anything exciting about today's picks?

i think the manning pick might end up being a steal someday. originally thought to be a 2nd rounder (knee)...but then again, what the hell do i know!?

[RashanGary]

The Packers are drafting Cullen Jenkins types on the DL. Both of those guys are quick as a whip. If the opposition decides to double our edge rushers and/or Raji, they're going to have another guy who can shoot a gap and either get a sack, hurry a bad throw or put the QB on the run where our edge speed will eat the QB for lunch.

Pressure up the middle, it doesn't always get as many sacks. QB's can see it coming, but it forces a lot of errant throws and broken plays.

I like the makeup of our line/OLB's. They have a couple studs and it looks like a couple guys who can beat single blocks. Pressure is going to be steady. And we have a lot of them. . . . They shouldn't wear down.


Then our back 5 is fast, fast, fast and ball hawks. Looks like we're trying to put together a good pass defense.

[MJZiggy]

Thompson shows sense of humor, hell froze over

He jokes fairly often, but fairly often they fall flat.

[smuggler]

If even half of these dudes pan out, we are going to be a dangerous team. I think it was right to carpet bomb the defense.

[Fritz]

The defense has been put on notice.

Is Manning inside or outside?

[woodbuck27]

Guys I like that could possibly be there in the 7th round

Audie Cole, ILB NC ST. 6-4 245

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1272213/audie-cole

Mike Brewster, C Ohio St. 6-4 313
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1620010/mike-brewster

Cam Johnson, DE Virginia 6-3 265
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1724711/cam-johnson

Travis Lewis, OLB 6-1 245
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1254435/travis-lewis

ILB Audie Cole is gone to 'the Vikings'. DE Cameron Johnson is a 49er.

C Mike Brewster or RB Edwin Baker and S Antonio Allen. Maybe CB Leonard Johnson.He's versatile can return kicks but only 5 ft 10 inch's tall.

[Bretsky]

28 163 Green Bay Packers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/packers.html) (from Green Bay (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/packers.html))


and pick ...Terrell Manning; (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/83298.html)OLB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/OLB.html); North Carolina State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/34.html)

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=83589&draftyear=2013&genpos=OLB

Some promise in this report.




I think MEL Kiper has been pimping this guy as his BPA for a long time before TT jumped up to grab him

[jklowan]

what about chris polk here, wasn't he graded as a 3-4 round back?

[Joemailman]

The defense has been put on notice.

Is Manning inside or outside?

Outside, although I wouldn't rule out a move to the inside given his lack of height (6-2)

[smuggler]

Is Manning inside or outside?

He was a WLB in a 4-3 in college, but...

Moss said that the most impressive part of his game is his interior pass rushing ability. I imagine he's going to be an ILB.

[Joemailman]

Packers are on the clock...

[Joemailman]

Andrew Datko - OT - Florida St.

[woodbuck27]

What will he do?

It's Tackle Andrew Datko , Florida State ..nice pick.


Andrew Datko
Green Bay Packers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/packers.html)
Round 7, Pick 241



SI Grade
2.45
SI Grading System (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/grading_system/)
Position: T (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/T.html)

Class: Sr
School: Florida State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/35.html)

HT: 6'6½"
WT: 311 lbs.
40 Time: 5.19
Conference: ACC (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_conference/1.html)

Biography: "Four-year starter that spent most of his career at left tackle. Missed the second half of his senior season with an injury to his shoulder. Also missed three games during his junior season with a similar ailment.


Positives: One-time highly rated tackle who's been pushed down draft boards due to injury. Plays smart football, keeps his head on a swivel and remains alert throughout the action. Works to bend his knees, keeps his feet moving and stays square. Gets his hands into opponents and seals them from the action. Is patient and makes good use of angles and body positioning. Possesses terrific size and is large enough to engulf opponents.

Negatives: Lacks classic footwork sliding out off the edge. Does not possess the overwhelming power necessary to finish blocks.

Analysis: Datko is a mechanically sound blocker with a good head for the game, but he?s been bothered the past two seasons by persistent shoulder injuries. Lining up on the weak side for Florida State, he's better suited for right tackle in the NFL. He must improve his run blocking and get back to full health to have any chance of a career at the next level."

Projection: 5th

[Joemailman]

Packers are on the clock again...

[smuggler]

He has health concerns but sans that he was a mid 2nd to late 3rd talent.

[Deputy Nutz]

what a complete shock, Thompon finally goes offense, and selects an offensive tackle

[Joemailman]

And QB B.J. Coleman

[Deputy Nutz]

BJ Coleman? Qb?

I guess TT owed this guy's dad a favor

[Scott Campbell]

And QB B.J. Coleman


Bye bye Rodgers.

[woodbuck27]

Last Pick BJ Coleman QB; Tennessee,Chattanooga

[Deputy Nutz]

Bye bye Rodgers.

Well, BJ's agent is Bus Cook

[Deputy Nutz]

Last Pick BJ Coleman QB; Tennessee,Chattanooga

Is internet that slow in Canada?

[woodbuck27]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/67946.html


BJ Coleman
Green Bay Packers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/packers.html)
Round 7, Pick 243




SI Grade
2.34
SI Grading System (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/grading_system/)
Position: QB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/QB.html)

Class: Sr
School: Tenn-Chattanooga (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/403.html)

HT: 6'3"
WT: 233 lbs.
40 Time: 4.89
Conference: Non-Division I (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_conference/999.html)

Biography:

"Tennessee transfer who started for three seasons at Chattanooga, winning all-conference honors as a junior. Started seven games last season, missing time due to a shoulder injury, and finished the year with 60.9%/1527 yards/9 TDs/9 interceptions. Junior totals included career-best numbers of 56.3%/2996/26/13.


Positives: Adequately sized passer who flashed ability since his sophomore season. Effectively controls the offense, knows where his receivers are on the field and patient in the pocket. Buys time for receivers, waits until the last moment before releasing the ball and consistently makes proper decisions. Sells ball fakes, locates open receivers and throws a catchable ball. Puts air under deep throws, puts touch on passes and nicely places the ball into targets hands. Displays a sense of timing and for the most part hits receivers in stride.


Negatives: Often releases the ball off his back foot, which results in errant throws. Cannot drive deep passes. Slow taking his eyes from the primary target and going to secondary receivers. Coming off a disappointing senior campaign.


Analysis: Coleman displayed skill the past three years and possesses the physical skills and mental intangibles to compete in a timing or West Coast offense."


Projection: 6th

[Deputy Nutz]

04/23/2012 - NFL DRAFT TOP QUARTERBACKS: B.J. Coleman, Tennessee-Chattanooga, 6-3, 233...An imposing physical specimen, Coleman has natural leadership skills that are evident on the field and around the locker room. He is capable of doing everything necessary to be a pro QB, but needs to learn how to do it and when to do it. Think of him in terms a very raw Brett Favre, who was pretty raw himself when he came out of Southern Mississippi. Coleman was considered one of the top prep quarterbacks in the nation when he selected Tennessee. But after seeing too little action, he transferred to Chattanooga, where his father Byron played (1977-80) with Russ Huesman, now the team's head
coach. After playing in only three games for the Vols, Coleman started 32 at Chattanooga and took advantage of the small-school competition to generate great statistics, but not enough experience against top players to help him improve. He is mobile for his size and has an arm that is so powerful that he needs to learn how to control it. He wasn't able to throw at the combine because of a broken pinky finger, but he wowed the teams that watched him at his pro day. For his career, Coleman completed 583 of 1,016 passes for 6,892 yards, 52 touchdowns and 32 interceptions. He ran for seven more scores and even pooch punted a few times. But if some team wants to take advantage of his ample abilities, it will require time and patience to coach him up to an NFL-caliber quarterback. Perhaps it was with that in mind that he selected agent Bus Cook, who also represented Favre. - Frank Cooney, The Sports Xchange

[Scott Campbell]

Well, BJ's agent is Bus Cook


Please tell me you're kidding.

[Joemailman]

Is internet that slow in Canada?

They have dial-up.

http://solodialogue.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/crop-434x250-50-50.jpg

[RashanGary]

Oh great, the next Bert :) :)

[Joemailman]

B.J. Coleman should fit right in:

A.J. Hawk
T.J. Lang
B.J. Raji
D.J. Smith
D.J. Williams
C.J. Wilson

[woodbuck27]

Is internet that slow in Canada?

I'm multi-tasking. (-:

[Scott Campbell]

Oh great, the next Bert :) :)


At his introductory press conference, BJ said he's contemplating retiring.

[Joemailman]

Oh great, the next Bert :) :)

I was thinking that would be an interesting contract negotiation with Bus and TT. But I guess when you're representing the 243rd player drafted, there's probably not much negotiation. They hand you a contract and you sign it.

Derek Sherrod is also represented by Cook.

[Joemailman]

At his introductory press conference, BJ said he's contemplating retiring.

He just changed his mind.

[Lurker64]

I absolutely love the Coleman pick.

The scouting report on him, in brief: "has everything you want but footwork and smooth mechanics"
What do McCarthy and Clements do better than anything? Teach footwork and smooth out mechanics.

Datko is also potentially fantastic value. His shoulders are a mess, but he's got franchise left tackle upside.

[Joemailman]

I absolutely love the Coleman pick.

The scouting report on him, in brief: "has everything you want but footwork and smooth mechanics"
What do McCarthy and Clements do better than anything? Teach footwork and smooth out mechanics.

Yup. Graham Harrell will likely be the backup this year, but Coleman has more physical talent by far.

[Teamcheez1]

The next big question is can TT find some gems in the UDFA market?

[channtheman]

Thanks gbgary. Now I'd like to see a flyer on a QB and an OL Center type that we can groom for the future.

Just got back from a drive and we drafted.... a QB and a OL. Not a center, but still.

[pbmax]

Outside, although I wouldn't rule out a move to the inside given his lack of height (6-2)

Moss was the coach brought to the PC. He is going to begin on the inside. Capers said he could rush from in or out.

[Joemailman]

Chandler Harnish - QB - Northern Illinois is Mr. Irrelevant. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828b9240/article/colts-choose-mr-irrelevant-qb-chandler-harnish?module=HP11_headline_stack

[pbmax]

On BJ Coleman: http://www.nooga.com/155049/updated-bj-coleman-awaits-hearing-his-name-in-nfl-draft/

[pbmax]

Coleman worked with Favre twice a week in Feb and Mar this year apparently. Reporters saying conference call is getting uncomfortable with Favre mentions.

[Brando19]

Coleman worked with Favre twice a week in Feb and Mar this year apparently. Reporters saying conference call is getting uncomfortable with Favre mentions.

What do you mean? With who?

[pbmax]

What do you mean? With who?

Either the writers listening, or the Packer personnel who setup the conference call. Or both.

[Brando19]

Either the writers listening, or the Packer personnel who setup the conference call. Or both.

Oh ok...McCarthy said BJ was the most excited of all the UDFA's he called and BJ said he was the best pick the Packers ever made....lol. He later said he was caught up in the excitement when he made that comment. Cocky????

[pbmax]

Oh ok...McCarthy said BJ was the most excited of all the UDFA's he called and BJ said he was the best pick the Packers ever made....lol. He later said he was caught up in the excitement when he made that comment. Cocky????

I didn't hear it, but scouts said the only real negative on the kid was that he was "too intense". Which sounds like me in a job interview: "Sometimes, I am a little too detail-oriented."

[gbgary]

Coleman worked with Favre twice a week in Feb and Mar this year apparently.

sensitivity and social media awareness training?

[SkinBasket]

B.J. Coleman should fit right in:

A.J. Hawk
T.J. Lang
B.J. Raji
D.J. Smith
D.J. Williams
C.J. Wilson

you forgot M.D. Jennings you boob, more commonly referred to as Jennings, M.D.

[Joemailman]

you forgot M.D. Jennings you boob, more commonly referred to as Jennings, M.D.

If he were M.J. Jennings, you would have a point. But he isn't, so you don't.

[mraynrand]

I absolutely love the Coleman pick.

The scouting report on him, in brief: "has everything you want but footwork and smooth mechanics"
What do McCarthy and Clements do better than anything? Teach footwork and smooth out mechanics.

Datko is also potentially fantastic value. His shoulders are a mess, but he's got franchise left tackle upside.

I 'like' the comment in the article on Datko: "The surgeries didn't take" Like that line from Mr. Mom about the guy getting 'fixed' Sounds like the guy had a shitty orthopod.

[mmmdk]

I absolutely love the Coleman pick.

The scouting report on him, in brief: "has everything you want but footwork and smooth mechanics"
What do McCarthy and Clements do better than anything? Teach footwork and smooth out mechanics.

Datko is also potentially fantastic value. His shoulders are a mess, but he's got franchise left tackle upside.

I knew zilch on BJ Coleman but the more I read about him, the more I'm baffled he lasted till the 7th round.

Datko is worth the [injury] gamble. Still, our OL is still lacking true depth and balance; other than a superstar QB like AR would be killed by Packers pass protection.

[Pugger]

BJ Coleman is this draft's Matt Flynn. :-D

[Scott Campbell]

I knew zilch on BJ Coleman but the more I read about him, the more I'm baffled he lasted till the 7th round.



I heard a lot of teams took him off their boards after he worked out with Favre.

[gbgary]

I heard a lot of teams took him off their boards after he worked out with Favre.

lol

[Scott Campbell]

Coleman worked with Favre twice a week in Feb and Mar this year apparently. Reporters saying conference call is getting uncomfortable with Favre mentions.



I wonder how long it'll be till McCarthy pulls him aside and tells him "the next time you mention that MF'ers name, your ass is on the bus back to Bumfuck Tennessee".


Rodgers commented "so NOW it's ok to mentor young QB's????".

[mmmdk]

I heard a lot of teams took him off their boards after he worked out with Favre.

:lol:

[Scott Campbell]

BJ Coleman is this draft's Matt Flynn. :-D


Already I don't like this kid. Ted needs to trade his ass to the Jets.


I'm starting a Nick Hill fan club. Who's with me?

[SkinBasket]

If he were M.J. Jennings, you would have a point. But he isn't, so you don't.

You are totally wrong.

[Joemailman]

You are totally wrong.

No. You're totally wrong. :taunt:

[SkinBasket]

No. You're totally wrong. :taunt:

you don't even understand the argument you're so wrong.

[MadtownPacker]

I wonder how long it'll be till McCarthy pulls him aside and tells him "the next time you mention that MF'ers name, your ass is on the bus back to Bumfuck Tennessee".


Rodgers commented "so NOW it's ok to mentor young QB's????".I bet the villain knew TT would draft Mr Coleman so he set the seeds of evil in motion. Or maybe he thought he owed Ted one? :lol:

[Lurker64]

I bet the villain knew TT would draft Mr Coleman so he set the seeds of evil in motion. Or maybe he thought he owed Ted one? :lol:

The good thing is that BF Jr. will be appeased by the fact that TT went out of his way to sign Moss yesterday, that should soothe over some hurt feelings. Ted is a crafty one.