OFFICIAL DAY THREE 2012......DRAFT DAY THREAD

[Bretsky]

Let's Get Fired up !!!

JUST SHOW BIG SHOWS AGO WE EXPERIENCED THIS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_IAqwrvEuU

And then after a year when going nearly undefeated this occured

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANe5AeOIFm4

Chaos hit the fan in the PR community.

TT felt the pain and it drove his madness to actually liberal participation in the free agent market. And the dude who was sometimes accused by many of not having the stones to go bold and go big.....and the dude who was sometimes accused of going BPA with no regard for need..........................has essentially


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY6_3Y7OOo8

It's clear...........Hail to TT

He is alive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAjommHuOA



Out of no where comes........TTT...........Ted the Tiger Thompson...........doing a wonderful job combining BPA with need

He gets us our pass rusher.........he gets us a DL who graded out as a first round pick.....he gets us a future starting CB....

While it is on him and his scouts to figure out of he selected the right player.........the strategy was perfectly executed.

Anything out of these last rounds should be icing on the cake. Yes, it still churns my stones, that TTT gave up a fourth round draft pick to let the Eagles trade down and draft My Cousin and Future Pro Bowler Vinny Curry.........but I understand it was a deal that needed to be made. And I feel bad the Badger I've admired as much as any is stuck with Bevell on the QB hole we call Seattle.

But for Green Bay Packer Fans....................we have to be feeling some of this about the draft

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vvghM3BoI8

Da Pack is back fellow Homers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make it a great Saturday.

Whatever occurs today is icing on the Cake !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bretsky]

Getting this list over here

On my board, the entire first and second tiers are taken.

Greens remaining in third tier: Markelle Martin (S, OKST), Ladarius Green (TE, LA-Lafayette), Lamar Miller (RB, Miami)
Non-reds remaining in third tier: Alameda Ta'amu (NT, Wash), Billy Winn (DE, Boise), Nigel Bradham (ILB, FSU), Josh Kaddu (ILB, Oregon), Brandon Mosley (OT, Auburn), Orson Charles (TE, Georgia), Greg Childs (WR, Arkansas), Rishard Matthews (WR, Nevada), Chris Givens (WR, Wake), Marvin Jones (WR, Cal), Chris Polk (RB, Wash), Kirk Cousins (QB, MSU)

Greens in fourth tier: Hebron Fangupo (NT, BYU), Miles Burris (OLB, SDSU), Tank Carder (ILB, TTU), Aaron Henry (S, Wisconsin), Coty Sensabaugh (CB, Clemson), Chris Greenwood (CB, Albion), Tom Compton (OT, South Dakota), Nick Toon (WR, Wisconsin), Junior Hemmingway (WR, Michigan).

I also like B.J. Coleman, Ryan Lindley, Michael Brewster, and David Molk, Markus Kuhn, Louis Nzegwu, and Chandler Harnish if the board is picked clean or later.

[Bretsky]

Jared Crick would be a really nice pickup in round four IMHO

[Bretsky]

One other thought.............the fact that I liked this draft........hmmmmmmmmm....should we all be worried ?

[Bretsky]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/hayward-just-too-good-for-packers-to-pass-up-u656ju9-149338505.html


Have to be excited about the CB

[Bretsky]

Top Ten RB's NOT drafted:

Lamar Miller; Miami (Fl.) ... grade = 2.90
Vic Ballard; Mississippi ... Grade = 2.68
Edwin Baker; Michigan ... Grade = 2.63
Robert Turbin; Utah State ... Grade = 2.60
Cyrus Gray; Texas A&M ... Grade = 2.56
Tauren Poole, Tennessee ... Grade = 2.54
Chris Rainey; Florida ... Grade = 2.52
Chros POLK,: Washington ... Grade = 2.51
Terence Ganaway;BAYLOR ... Grade = 2.45
Davin Maggett; Maryland ... Grade = 2.40

[RashanGary]

On the eve of losing Charles Woodson to age, a guy like Hayward is just what the doctor ordered. I've heard it said, corners playing inside have to be your smartest, most mentally prepared corner on your team. You don't have the sideline as consistent protection. Your leverages change from coverage to coverage and the concepts offense throw at you , if you have an understanding of what they're trying to do, an inside corner can reek havoc on the passing game, like Woodson does now, even if he's lost quite a bit of speed.

Hayward looks like the most ready player to actually start and play consistently at corner. But we have two outside cover guys who range from damn good to friggin fantastic (Shields and Williams) Hayward protects against injury this year. Going forward, as he develops, it sounds like he's a guy who can play one of the tougher positions on defense, one that maybe isn't so reliant on pure speed, but one that allows for more exotic coverages, one that opens up the playbook a little the way Woodson does. Looks like he's a specialty type player, and inside corner, not a pure outside cover corner who can do it all.

I love the pick. I love it for depth now (this is our window) and I love it for a possible nitche down the road.

It's similar to Perry and Worthy. They bring something right now (depth and situation impact.) They need to round out their game into somewhat complete players. But the Packers added desperately needed pass rush to a defense that is already the best defense in the league at creating turnovers.

The great teams, the truly dominant teams of all time are strong in all areas and it just rolls up. The offense helps the defense and ST's. The ST's help the defense and offense, and the defense helps the ST's and offense. Lapses or not, the Packers look like one of those teams that can just roll it up, just blow teams out of the water. And they also added players who will help insure, over time, they still have excellent all around players while they continue to add new young players to help out.

Lets face it, the Packers are a great team. GREAT! It's going to take a lot of bad things to happen for this team not to compete for a championship. Rodgers, Raji and Matthews need to be healthy down the stretch for us to be front runners, but we're going to get there and if our big 3 is ready to rumble, no team in the league can match our talent (or coaching IMO.)

[RashanGary]

Crick is a classic tweener (similar to Perry.) He's very talented (again, similar to Perry but not quite at that level.) Unlike Perry he has injury concern. Tweeners can fall. Teams look for that classic player who can start and play every down. Offenses have gone more and more to situational players. TE's who can't block. RB's who are mostly open field/pass catching players along with a RB who's more of a runner. A classic QB and a wild cat QB. Slot WR's, Route runners, Big guys you can throw to in the endzone, but maybe can't get off the line as well so they have to play off the line of scrimmage, pure blocking TE's, etc. . . . They have package after package after package. Defense doesn't seem they do quite as much of that.

The Packers seem to be open to drafting situation players. It looks like we're going to have some extra mixing and matching based on down, distance, and who the opponent is. Crick is a situational player. Seems like he's a guy who could drop. Seems like he's the type of situational player the Packers are drafting this year.

I'd love Crick. He'd be a big-time 3rd down pass rusher for our line. I like his stunts. With a guy like Worthy or Raji who can crash inside, a guy like Crick who can stunt inside or directly rush the passer brings a little something extra.

If we follow tendency of this draft, we'll be drafting guys like Crick and maybe a RB who excels in one area of the game, vs a guy who's more complete but less talented in any one area of the game.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Getting this list over here

On my board, the entire first and second tiers are taken.

Greens remaining in third tier: Markelle Martin (S, OKST), Ladarius Green (TE, LA-Lafayette), Lamar Miller (RB, Miami)
Non-reds remaining in third tier: Alameda Ta'amu (NT, Wash), Billy Winn (DE, Boise), Nigel Bradham (ILB, FSU), Josh Kaddu (ILB, Oregon), Brandon Mosley (OT, Auburn), Orson Charles (TE, Georgia), Greg Childs (WR, Arkansas), Rishard Matthews (WR, Nevada), Chris Givens (WR, Wake), Marvin Jones (WR, Cal), Chris Polk (RB, Wash), Kirk Cousins (QB, MSU)

Greens in fourth tier: Hebron Fangupo (NT, BYU), Miles Burris (OLB, SDSU), Tank Carder (ILB, TTU), Aaron Henry (S, Wisconsin), Coty Sensabaugh (CB, Clemson), Chris Greenwood (CB, Albion), Tom Compton (OT, South Dakota), Nick Toon (WR, Wisconsin), Junior Hemmingway (WR, Michigan).

I also like B.J. Coleman, Ryan Lindley, Michael Brewster, and David Molk, Markus Kuhn, Louis Nzegwu, and Chandler Harnish if the board is picked clean or later.

I've heard that the Vikings like Marvin Jones.

[RashanGary]

Time for developmental OL and QB and some situational type players at other positions like RB.

[Bretsky]

completely on board with Crick and Billy Winn

We've lost Jolly and Jenkins and have nothing in our cups to replace them.

I hope we go high with another DL

[Lurker64]

I'm expecting the Packers to take a QB or RB and an OT or OG/OC with their two fourth round picks.

There's a sickening amount of value on the board at WR too.

[pittstang5]

I'm expecting the Packers to take a QB or RB and an OT or OG/OC with their two fourth round picks.

There's a sickening amount of value on the board at WR too.

I'm betting TT won't be able to stop himself from drafting a WR....somewhere.

[Upnorth]

I'd like to see DL if the value is there and hope TT moves up to get Crick. If not get the best saftey then. I'm willing to not pick a rb as I have faith Green and Starks is enough. By far my biggest worry at this point is that Bretsky is loving our draft. When he said he would rather have picked other than Perry I thought we were safe, but the sheer exuberance he has is really getting me worried. Wist do your best to sink his enthusiasm and save these poor innocent players!

[woodbuck27]

TT may want to go Safety as a priority today Sat. 28 April 2012:

Top Fifteen (10) Safety's not drafted:

* Note: S Harrison Smith was graded at 2.84 and Mark Barron at 3.17.

George Iloka. Boise State ................ Grade = 2.80

Trenton Robinson; michigan State ................. 2.69

Antonio Allen; S. Carolina ............................. 2.59

Markell Martin; Okalahoma ........................... 2.53

Corey White; Samford .................................. 2.42

Aaron Henry; Wisconsin ............................... 2.41

Justin Bethel (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/81750.html); Presbyterian (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/24.html) ...........................2.40


Sean Richardson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/84367.html) ;Vanderbilt (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/80.html) .........................2.39


Josh Bush (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/67555.html) ;Wake Forest (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/39.html)................................ 2.38


Christian Thompson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/84164.html); South Carolina State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/392.html) .......2.37

[pittstang5]

Damn, there goes Ben Jones to Houston

[Lurker64]

Damn, there goes Ben Jones to Houston

Top Centers I have left are both Big Ten alumni. I would be fine with Brewster or Molk in the fourth.

[Scott Campbell]

Out of no where comes........TTT...........Ted the Tiger Thompson...........doing a wonderful job combining BPA with need........


Yeah, who could have seen 2 time Executive of the Year Ted Thompson having a good draft.


This Ted guy might work out afterall. :wink:

[woodbuck27]

TOP TEN (10) OT's NOT drafted:

Bobbie Masse; Mississippi ....... Grade = 3.01
Zebrie Sanders (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/82300.html);Florida State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/35.html)......................2.54
Thomas Compton;South Dakota (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/201.html)................. 2.52
Matt McCants (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/69268.html);Alabama-Birmingham (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/158.html)............ 2.48
Andrew Datko (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/82311.html);Florida State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/35.html)....................... 2.45
Markus Zusevics (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/68611.html);Iowa (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/48.html)...............................2.42
Nate Potter (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/64284.html);Boise State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/106.html)............................. 2.37
Justin Anderson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/54154.html);Georgia (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/76.html).............................2.34
Dustin Waldron (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/80335.html); Portland State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/182.html) ...................2.30

Matt Reynolds (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/46147.html); BYU (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/374.html) ..................................2.29


GO Ted Thompson ! >>> GO PACKERS !

[Upnorth]

I'm betting TT won't be able to stop himself from drafting a WR....somewhere.

If he drafts wr and he turns out, or one of the PS wr's really steps up, could we trade DD and get some picks for next year? We wouldn't get much and I love DD but if we have a good talent behind him ...

[pittstang5]

I'd like to see DL if the value is there and hope TT moves up to get Crick. If not get the best saftey then. I'm willing to not pick a rb as I have faith Green and Starks is enough. By far my biggest worry at this point is that Bretsky is loving our draft. When he said he would rather have picked other than Perry I thought we were safe, but the sheer exuberance he has is really getting me worried. Wist do your best to sink his enthusiasm and save these poor innocent players!

I think TT is almost out of Ammo to move up. If I'm not mistaken, he only has a 6th and two 7ths to use.

[Scott Campbell]

I think TT is almost out of Ammo to move up. If I'm not mistaken, he only has a 6th and two 7ths to use.


Can't he trade next years picks?

Not that he will. I think we might be done trading.

[woodbuck27]

POSITIONS - 'C' ... TOP Remaining (10) Centers:

Peter Konz (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/82691.html); Wisconsin (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/53.html) to Falcons (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/falcons.html) ......... Grade 3.08

Ben Jones (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/79118.html);Georgia (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/76.html) ................ Grade 2.59
David Molk (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/73529.html);Michigan (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/364.html)....................... 2.55
Mike Brewster (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/78766.html);Ohio State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/70.html)............... .2.42
William Vlachos (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/69194.html);Alabama (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/20.html) .................2.29
Garth Gerhart (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/63429.html);Arizona State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/71.html) .............2.27
Moe Petrus (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/69707.html);Connecticut (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/2.html) ...................2.25
Cam Holland (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/69107.html);North Carolina (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/38.html)............. 2.16
Anthony Mihota (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/68740.html);Virginia (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/37.html) ...................2.05
Tyler Horn (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/68001.html);Miami (FL) (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/10.html) .....................2.04
Chris Anzevino (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/69779.html);Kent State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/66.html) ................2.03

GO Ted Thompson ! >>> GO PACKERS !

[pittstang5]

If he drafts wr and he turns out, or one of the PS wr's really steps up, could we trade DD and get some picks for next year? We wouldn't get much and I love DD but if we have a good talent behind him ...

Trade DD? They'd release him before they trade him....who would want an older WR that doesn't play special teams.

[pittstang5]

Can't he trade next years picks?

Not that he will. I think we might be done trading.

Sure, he could trade a player too, but unlikely as well. A snowball has a better chance in hell than TT trading a next year pick. I figured that was common knowledge.

[Gunakor]

Jared Crick would be a really nice pickup in round four IMHO


It would be a knee-jerk decision. Crick is going to be a great player in this league. I wouldn't necessarily hate the selection. But that would mean two starters and one primary rotational guy in our front 7 would begin the season with no NFL experience at all. This may sound silly but I think drafting Perry and Worthy plus the addition of Hargrove in FA is all the attention our front 7 needs right now. We need a safety, we need a center, we need a quarterback at some point... Too much attention focused on one phase of the game will lead to disaster IMO.

[woodbuck27]

TOP Fifteen (10) Guards NOT drafted:



Senio Kelemete (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/80660.html); Washington (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/373.html) .............GRADE =2.57
Lucas Nix (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/83573.html) ;Pittsburgh (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/359.html) ...................................2.53
James Brown (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/96327.html); Troy (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/9.html) .....................................2.49
Brandon Washington (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/94836.html); Miami (FL) (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/10.html) ....................2.45
Adam Gettis (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/68585.html); Iowa (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/48.html) ......................................2.44
Ronald Leary (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/69080.html) ;Memphis (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/379.html) ................................2.43
Joe Looney (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/78772.html) ;Wake Forest (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/39.html) ..............................2.42
Levy Adcock (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/96381.html) ;Oklahoma State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/46.html) ........................2.41
Rishaw Johnson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/67203.html); Cal-Pa (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/205.html) ................................2.40
Kevious Watkins (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/504331.html) ;South Carolina (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/78.html) .....................2.39

GO Ted Thompson ! >>> GO PACKERS !

[RashanGary]

Safety, QB, Center. I agree. Gotta get some competition in there.

[Scott Campbell]

It would be a knee-jerk decision. Crick is going to be a great player in this league. I wouldn't necessarily hate the selection. But that would mean two starters and one primary rotational guy in our front 7 would begin the season with no NFL experience at all. This may sound silly but I think drafting Perry and Worthy plus the addition of Hargrove in FA is all the attention our front 7 needs right now. We need a safety, we need a center, we need a quarterback at some point... Too much attention focused on one phase of the game will lead to disaster IMO.


You make a good point. But it also assumes that you hit on all three of those guys. And the odds of that happening aren't too good.

[RashanGary]

How many minutes between picks?

[Fritz]

I am holding out hope that David Molk, the center from Michigan, will still be there when TT picks at the end of the fourth. He's a good player, and I think will be a solid NFL center.

I'd also like to see a QB or a safety somewhere in one of the two fourth rounders.

[woodbuck27]

ROUND 4

1 #96 Louis Rams (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/rams.html) Chris Givens (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/82996.html)WR (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/WR.html);Wake Forest (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/39.html)

2 #97 Miami Dolphins (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/dolphins.html) (from Indianapolis (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/colts.html))
Lamar Miller (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/98654.html)RB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/RB.html);Miami (FL) (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/10.html)

3 #98 Baltimore Ravens (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/ravens.html) (from Minnesota (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/vikings.html))
Gino Gradkowski (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/70938.html)G (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/G.html);Delaware (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/30.html)

4 #99 Houston Texans (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/texans.html) (from Tampa Bay (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/buccaneers.html))
Ben Jones (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/79118.html)C (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/C.html);Georgia (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/76.html)

5 #100 Cleveland Browns (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/browns.html) Travis Benjamin (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/83607.html)WR (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/WR.html);Miami (FL) (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/10.html)

6 #101 Denver Broncos (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/broncos.html) (from Jacksonville (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/jaguars.html))
Omar Bolden (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/63430.html)CB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/CB.html);Arizona State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/71.html)

7 #102 Washington Redskins (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/redskins.html) Kirk Cousins (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/70946.html)QB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/QB.html);Michigan State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/365.html)


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/4.html#ixzz1tLy3TN6d

[pittstang5]

Has there been any more scuttlebutt about Colt McCoy? Just curious. Today would be the day to trade for him if TT is interested.

[Lurker64]

There goes Turbin, looks like it's Polk or late-round-cruft if the Packers want to add an RB.

[Lurker64]

How many minutes between picks?

Cinco.

[Upnorth]

I think TT is almost out of Ammo to move up. If I'm not mistaken, he only has a 6th and two 7ths to use.

I thought we still had our tradeable 4th. My bad, looks like we are not getting Crick.

[Gunakor]

You make a good point. But it also assumes that you hit on all three of those guys. And the odds of that happening aren't too good.


It's not about hitting on the guys we've drafted. It's about ignoring everything else altogether. The front 7 isn't the only issue with the team as it stands today. Who starts at FS, and who backs him up? Saturday is 38 years old, and there is nobody on the roster being prepared to take over for him. There isn't a single QB on the roster behind Aaron Rodgers who has taken a single NFL snap before. After the addition of 3 players to our front 7 from last season these other issues have become more important and should be addressed quickly.

[Bretsky]

It would be a knee-jerk decision. Crick is going to be a great player in this league. I wouldn't necessarily hate the selection. But that would mean two starters and one primary rotational guy in our front 7 would begin the season with no NFL experience at all. This may sound silly but I think drafting Perry and Worthy plus the addition of Hargrove in FA is all the attention our front 7 needs right now. We need a safety, we need a center, we need a quarterback at some point... Too much attention focused on one phase of the game will lead to disaster IMO.


Never have enough qauality DL
Last year we had JAG's like Wynn, Wilson, Guy, Green

I'd love to see three upgrades on that bunch

[woodbuck27]

8 103 Carolina Panthers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/panthers.html) (from Miami (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/dolphins.html))
Frank Alexander (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/63867.html)DE (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/DE.html); Oklahoma (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/44.html)

9 104 Carolina Panthers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/panthers.html) Joe Adams (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/84106.html)WR (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/WR.html); Arkansas (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/81.html)

10 105 Buffalo Bills (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/bills.html) Nigel Bradham (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/77987.html)OLB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/OLB.html); Florida State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/35.html)

11 106 Seattle Seahawks (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/seahawks.html) Robert Turbin (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/70383.html)RB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/RB.html); Utah State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/58.html)


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/4.html#ixzz1tLzX9r4K

[Upnorth]

With our two fourths I hope there is a decent safety left.

[Gunakor]

Never have enough qauality DL
Last year we had JAG's like Wynn, Wilson, Guy, Green

I'd love to see three upgrades on that bunch

No, you can never have too many quality DL. But you certainly can have too few of something else. That's the point.

[Bretsky]

No, you can never have too many quality DL. But you certainly can have too few of something else. That's the point.


I agree getting a safety would be nice; remember we still have our 4th from last yr to develop. I'm not too worried about Center or QB. I'd take a quality DL or OLB before either.

[pittstang5]

Philip Blake....almost forgot about him. Good pick for Denver

[Gunakor]

In 2 years we will have no center. Saturday is 38 years old, so unless you think EDS is a long term replacement then it's time to get a long term replacement and get him ready to start full time.

[woodbuck27]

I thought we still had our tradeable 4th. My bad, looks like we are not getting Crick.

Hi Upnorth;

If he's on the board for anothe 2 dozen picks we might have him.

[Fosco33]

I'd trade a 6 or 7 for Colt; get Safety/Center with the end of the 4th rd. After that - BPA.

[RashanGary]

Never have enough qauality DL
Last year we had JAG's like Wynn, Wilson, Guy, Green

I'd love to see three upgrades on that bunch


Raji
Pickett
Wynn
Wilson
Green

Raji
Pickett
Hargrove
Worthy
(possibly Neal or whoever wins the battle if he never makes it back)

Our DL is better. Much better. That said, the more the merrier, I agree.

[woodbuck27]

mmmm.... They're not picking at OT or Safety so far.

[Fosco33]

While I was ok with hayward pick - we still have Davon House... Maybe coaches don't think he can be regular rotational guy.

[Scott Campbell]

It's not about hitting on the guys we've drafted. It's about ignoring everything else altogether. The front 7 isn't the only issue with the team as it stands today. Who starts at FS, and who backs him up? Saturday is 38 years old, and there is nobody on the roster being prepared to take over for him. There isn't a single QB on the roster behind Aaron Rodgers who has taken a single NFL snap before. After the addition of 3 players to our front 7 from last season these other issues have become more important and should be addressed quickly.


I don't agree. BPA - whatever position that may be. But hopefully it won't be another Tight End.

[woodbuck27]

12 107 Kansas City Chiefs (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/chiefs.html) Devon Wylie (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/73465.html)WR (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/WR.html); Fresno State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/376.html)


13 108 Denver Broncos (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/broncos.html) (from New York (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/jets.html))
Philip Blake (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/97154.html)G (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/G.html); Baylor (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/86.html)


14 109 Pittsburgh Steelers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/steelers.html) (from Oakland (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/raiders.html))
Alameda Ta'amu (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/80671.html)DT (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/DT.html); Washington (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/373.html)


15 110 San Diego Chargers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/chargers.html) Ladarius Green (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/86473.html)TE (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/TE.html) La-Lafayette (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/60.html)

Da BIG BAD BEARS are on the clock....???

[Upnorth]

Hi Upnorth;

If he's on the board for anothe 2 dozen picks we might have him.

Hey Woody, If he is on the board that long then NFL GM's make more mistakes than I though possible.

[Upnorth]

I'd trade a 6 or 7 for Colt; get Safety/Center with the end of the 4th rd. After that - BPA.


I will second that motion Foscco.

[Scott Campbell]

In 2 years we will have no center. Saturday is 38 years old, so unless you think EDS is a long term replacement then it's time to get a long term replacement and get him ready to start full time.


There are lots of options to get another center, and many of those options fall outside of the last 3 rounds of this draft. If he gets one - great. If not, we'll utilize other methods.

[Gunakor]

I don't agree. BPA - whatever position that may be. But hopefully it won't be another Tight End.


I agree with BPA at the top of a draft. Now we're getting to the point in the draft where you fill needs. With few exceptions the difference in talent from one pick to the next is marginal.

[woodbuck27]

Hey Woody, If he is on the board that long then NFL GM's make more mistakes than I though possible.

Maybe he's as wild as Vontaze Burfict and Ronnell Lewis?? (-:

[Lurker64]

Bears take a fullback. It's official, Phil Emery hates Jay Cutler (just like everybody else.)

[woodbuck27]

4th Round

16 #111 ... Chicago Bears (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/bears.html) pick Evan Rodriquez (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/72288.html);TE (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/TE.html) ; Temple (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/357.html)

[Scott Campbell]

There isn't a single QB on the roster behind Aaron Rodgers who has taken a single NFL snap before.


There isn't a single QB in this draft that has taken an NFL snap before.

[gbgary]

Bears take a fullback. It's official, Phil Emery hates Jay Cutler (just like everybody else.)

lol

[Scott Campbell]

Now we're getting to the point in the draft where you fill needs.


Were talking about Ted. This is the point in the draft where he drafts his 4th and 5th Tight Ends.

[Gunakor]

There isn't a single QB in this draft that has taken an NFL snap before.

Fair enough. But at least the QB's in this draft put on a jersey last year. Harrell wasn't even active on gameday most of the time.

[Brando19]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7866300/cleveland-browns-expect-deal-colt-mccoy-brandon-weeden-pick-source-says

The Packers aren't pursuing Colt McCoy...which is a head scratcher for me. Why not offer a 6th?

[woodbuck27]

17 # 112 Arizona Cardinals (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/cardinals.html) Bobbie Massie (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/100005.html)T (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/T.html) Mississippi (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/98.html)

18 113 Dallas Cowboys (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/cowboys.html) Kyle Wilber (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/67566.html)OLB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/OLB.html) Wake Forest (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/39.html)

19 114 Seattle Seahawks (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/seahawks.html) (from Philadelphia (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/eagles.html))

[Lurker64]

Running out of Packer friendly CBs. Only green I have above UDFA is Chris Greenwood, the D3 prospect.

[Lurker64]

I could go the rest of my life without seeing that "mother and daughter crying" cell phone commercial again and I think I would be a better person for it.

[woodbuck27]

19 # 114 Seattle Seahawks (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/seahawks.html) (from Philadelphia (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/eagles.html))
Jaye Howard (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/79551.html)DT (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/DT.html) ;Florida (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/75.html)

20 115 Tennessee Titans (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/titans.html) Coty Sensabaugh (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/70211.html)CB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/CB.html) ;Clemson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/21.html)

21 116 Cincinnati Bengals (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/bengals.html)

22 117 Detroit Lions (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/lions.html)

23 118 Minnesota Vikings (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/vikings.html) (from Atlanta (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/falcons.html))



Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/4.html#ixzz1tM5XP7I3

[Upnorth]

Were talking about Ted. This is the point in the draft where he drafts his 4th and 5th Tight Ends.

I think you mean 6th and 7th TE.

[Lurker64]

Some good DBs and LBs left on the board:

DB: Markelle Martin, Josh Norman, Jeremy Lane, Aaron Henry, Chris Greenwood
LB: Miles Burris, Tim Fugger, Tank Carder

[Upnorth]

Running out of Packer friendly CBs. Only green I have above UDFA is Chris Greenwood, the D3 prospect.

I think we are good at CB for this year. Between TWill, SHields, Haywood, House and Bush (don't puke) we should be good for the year. We get a saftey this year, CB next year, imo.

[woodbuck27]

16 more picks and we get CRICK. (-:

yea...sure.

[KYPack]

I could go the rest of my life without seeing that "mother and daughter crying" cell phone commercial again and I think I would be a better person for it.

I know.

I truly hate that sumbitch.

[woodbuck27]

I think we are good at CB for this year. Between TWill, SHields, Haywood, House and Bush (don't puke) we should be good for the year. We get a saftey this year, CB next year, imo.

Bye bye Bush.

[Scott Campbell]

Bye bye Bush.


????

[Bretsky]

Some good DBs and LBs left on the board:

DB: Markelle Martin, Josh Norman, Jeremy Lane, Aaron Henry, Chris Greenwood
LB: Miles Burris, Tim Fugger, Tank Carder



I'd be all about Josh Newmann and I'd love to see TANK Carder in Green n Gold !!! Tank is Packer people and an intense buzzer.

[woodbuck27]

Damn 'the Eagles' at #123 might grab CRICK in six more picks.

[woodbuck27]

I'd be all about Josh Newmann and I'd love to see TANK Carder in Green n Gold !!! Tank is Packer people and an intense buzzer.


Carder trumps Crick?

[Gunakor]

Bye bye Bush.


Bush stays, period. His defense has improved to the point where he's actually pretty good for a dime back, and he's the best special teamer on the roster.

[Bretsky]

No, Crick IMO woujld be my top dog here

For those who bleed Red and White.....remember how Tank Tore the Badger OL apart two years ago in the Rose Bowl ??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl-OXIfmh6k

[Upnorth]

Damn 'the Eagles' at #123 might grab CRICK in six more picks.

So we are down to 13 picks. Screw the eagles!

[pittstang5]

I'd be all about Josh Newmann and I'd love to see TANK Carder in Green n Gold !!! Tank is Packer people and an intense buzzer.

Would Tank play inside?

[woodbuck27]

The Vikings picked up a decent WR in Jarius Wright ; ARKANSAS

[Bretsky]

So we are down to 13 picks. Screw the eagles!


Eagles seem to be getting a LOT of draft day love

IMO....Eagles= Division Winners next year

[woodbuck27]

So we are down to 13 picks. Screw the eagles!


Reed will have MERCY on us.

[pittstang5]

So we are down to 13 picks. Screw the eagles!

Nah, they need a safety or O-line help, hope they don't take Markelle Martin

[Lurker64]

Would the Packers get bonus points for selecting Molk and Polk back to back?

[Bretsky]

Would Tank play inside?


that's a good question.....the dude was nasty when he blitzed against UW......but he played on the inside for TCU. Highest intensity I've seen
I remember after the Rose Bowl I thought....that f'cker would look great in green n gold

[Bretsky]

Would the Packers get bonus points for selecting Molk and Polk back to back?


The JS leaked GB was really interested in Polk a coupe weeks ago
Sounds like a lot of teams have him off their draft day list due to concerns he can't play due to knee conditions

[Lurker64]

Would Tank play inside?

IMO, yes.

[Lurker64]

The JS leaked GB was really interested in Polk a coupe weeks ago
Sounds like a lot of teams have him off their draft day list due to concerns he can't play due to knee conditions

I just think the back-to-back rhyming picks would be awesome. Not great value possibly.

[woodbuck27]

Bush stays, period. His defense has improved to the point where he's actually pretty good for a dime back, and he's the best special teamer on the roster.

Yup ....that's why TT resigned him.

[pittstang5]

Eagles seem to be getting a LOT of draft day love

IMO....Eagles= Division Winners next year

They drafted some good guys already. Cox, Curry, the linebacker from Cal.

[Upnorth]

Nah, they need a safety or O-line help, hope they don't take Markelle Martin

I like this point and hope you are right.

Also going back to Bush, I think he works good for out team in his role.

[Upnorth]

Eagles seem to be getting a LOT of draft day love

IMO....Eagles= Division Winners next year

If they can get everyone on the same page, yes. IF they have troubles and start attacking one another no. I am hoping for the latter option. Despite the playoff game I think we match up better against the Giants than the eagles.

[Bretsky]

I'm game for Crick or Martin.

Just take BPA at this point. Worst case we can find a safety in free agency. There are still a couple left.

[Upnorth]

Even if Crick gets by hte eagles, there is Buf, Min and Oakland who would be intersted.

[woodbuck27]

Philly goes with Brandon Boykin; CB; GEORGIA.

We're now 8 and 9 Picks away....from TT time.

[Bretsky]

CONGRADS TO NICK TOON

IMO .....he disappointed me for the Badge

Going to NO........he could not find a better fit

[woodbuck27]

21 116 Cincinnati Bengals (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/bengals.html) Orson Charles (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/99929.html)TE (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/TE.html) Georgia (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/76.html)

22 117 San Francisco 49ers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/49ers.html) (from Detroit (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/lions.html))
Joe Looney (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/78772.html)G (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/G.html) Wake Forest (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/39.html)

23 118 Minnesota Vikings (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/vikings.html) (from Atlanta (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/falcons.html))
Jarius Wright (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/84142.html)WR (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/WR.html) Arkansas (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/81.html)

24 119 Washington Redskins (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/redskins.html) (from Pittsburgh (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/steelers.html))
Keenan Robinson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/68731.html)OLB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/OLB.html) Texas (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/90.html)

25 120 Cleveland Browns (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/browns.html) (from Denver (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/broncos.html))
James-Michael Johnson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/75773.html)ILB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/ILB.html) Nevada (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/56.html)

26 121 Houston Texans (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/texans.html) Keshawn Martin (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/83354.html)WR (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/WR.html) Michigan State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/365.html)

27 122 New Orleans Saints (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/saints.html) Nick Toon (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/68639.html)WR (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/WR.html) Wisconsin (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/53.html)

28 123 Philadelphia Eagles (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/eagles.html) (from Green Bay (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/packers.html))
Brandon Boykin (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/84171.html)CB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/CB.html) Georgia (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/76.html)

29 124 Buffalo Bills (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/bills.html) (from Baltimore (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/ravens.html))
Ron Brooks (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/64151.html)CB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/CB.html) LSU (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/82.html)

[woodbuck27]

29 124 Buffalo Bills (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/bills.html) (from Baltimore (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/ravens.html))
Ron Brooks (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/64151.html)CB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/CB.html) LSU (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/82.html)


30 125 Detroit Lions (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/lions.html) (from San Francisco (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/49ers.html))
Ronnell Lewis (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/94419.html)OLB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/OLB.html); Oklahoma (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/44.html)


The LIONS get Ronnell 'the Hammer' Lewis...to go with Suh....Murder's Row.


The LIONS get a Super ST's Player and a solid developmentle player.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2012OLB.php

Ronnell Lewis*, OLB, Oklahoma
Height: 6-2. Weight: 253.
40 Time: 4.69. 10-Yd Split: 1.65.
Bench: 36.
Vertical: 31. Broad: 9-4.
Arm: 32 1/2.
Projected Round (2012): 1-2.

"4/25/12: Lewis did very well at the Combine, showing serious strength, speed and explosion. Teams were also impressed with how well he interviewed and explained his time in Norman. He followed that up with a strong pro day.

Lewis played really very well this year, and he excelled at defensive end. His ability to rush the passer off the edge while playing the run well illustrates that Lewis could be a good 3-4 outside linebacker in the NFL. He could fit as an inside linebacker in the 3-4 as well.

Lewis only played in 10 games in 2011, yet the junior had good production. He totaled 59 tackles with 13 tackles for a loss, 5.5 sacks, five passes batted, one forced fumble and one interception. Against Texas A&M, the team with the best pair of offensive tackles Lewis faced all season, he had a good game with eight tackles, two tackles for a loss, one interception, one pass batted away and some good pass pressure. Lewis also outplayed the Seminoles and their offensive tackles, Andrew Datko and Zebrie Sanders.

Academic issues made Lewis ineligible for Oklahoma's bowl battle against Iowa. He is a phenomenal athlete who has speed to burn and is built like a truck. On the field, Lewis is an intimidating force who plays with a mean streak. He is an underrated prospect who could be a pick who many teams eventually regret passing on.

8/23/11: The junior Ronnell Lewis looked poised for a breakout season after flashing as a sophomore. He recorded 3.5 sacks with an interception, a fumble recovery, and 37 total tackles last season in only four starts. The muscular senior is extremely fast and is a violent hitter."

[Bretsky]

Reggie McKenzie's first pick as a GM is coming soon

[Lurker64]

Six picks till the Packers! Everybody ready your top 8.

[Gunakor]

CONGRADS TO NICK TOON

IMO .....he disappointed me for the Badge

Going to NO........he could not find a better fit


I kinda wish he was going anywhere else. I certainly wouldn't want to be there right now. Toon deserves better IMO.

[Lurker64]

Reggie McKenzie's first pick as a GM is coming soon

He actually made that last night, #95. Tony Bergstrom, the guard from Utah.

[Bretsky]

those fuckin Texans keep ripping my heart out !!!!

[pittstang5]

I knew Houston was going to steal Crick

[Brando19]

Crick gone to the texans.

[pittstang5]

those fuckin Texans keep ripping my heart out !!!!

Bastards!

[Lurker64]

Let's hope Detroit doesn't ask Lewis to cover anybody, or rather that they do.

[Bretsky]

I kinda wish he was going anywhere else. I certainly wouldn't want to be there right now. Toon deserves better IMO.


I'm not sure he a solid pro player so I figured getting matched with Brees after Meachem leaves would be ideal for him

[Bretsky]

I knew Houston was going to steal Crick


Texans
2011..........JJ Watt and Brooks Reed
2012..........Merciles and Jared Crick

[woodbuck27]

31 126 Houston Texans (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/texans.html) (from New England (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/patriots.html))
Jared Crick (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/73620.html)DE (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/DE.html) Nebraska (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/366.html)


Close but 'NO CIGAR'.

[Lurker64]

BPAs
Chris Polk (pending medical)
Markelle Martin (pending Medical)
Miles Burris
Billy Winn
Hebron Fangupo
Miles Burris
Tank Carder
Tom Compton
Aaron Henry
Greg Childs

[Fosco33]

CONGRADS TO NICK TOON

IMO .....he disappointed me for the Badge

Going to NO........he could not find a better fit

Cheers!

[Bretsky]

Aaron Henry is not that good IMO

[gbgary]

nevermind

[Fosco33]

i wouldn't want Aaron Henry...

[Bretsky]

BPAs
Chris Polk (pending medical)
Markelle Martin (pending Medical)
Miles Burris
Billy Winn
Hebron Fangupo
Miles Burris
Tank Carder
Tom Compton
Aaron Henry
Greg Childs


I'm nabbing Winn right off that list as one of my picks

[Lurker64]

Aaron Henry is not that good IMO

I just don't see a safety right now I like better other than Martin, who has a medical issue apparently.

[woodbuck27]

We're just a Brett Favre away from TT Time.

[Lurker64]

Green Bay was apparently ahead of the curve when it comes to "stocking up on TEs"

[Bretsky]

i wouldn't want Aaron Henry...

Funny that most rate Henry as being much better than Badger fans do; normally it's the other way

[woodbuck27]

33 128* Minnesota Vikings (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/vikings.html)


34 129* Oakland Raiders (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/raiders.html)


35 130* Baltimore Ravens (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/ravens.html)


36 131* New York Giants (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/giants.html)


37 132* Green Bay Packers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/packers.html)


38 133* Green Bay Packers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/packers.html)

39 134* Minnesota Vikings (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/vikings.html)

[Upnorth]

with our back to back I would tink Martin and wynn (however since b picked wynn I reserve the right to blame him for any injuries etc that happen to wynn)

[Lurker64]

There goes Burris, damn

Tim Fugger now, IMO, best OLB.

[Scott Campbell]

We're just a Brett Favre away from TT Time.


Football is a game of inches - or lack thereof.

[Bretsky]

I just don't see a safety right now I like better other than Martin, who has a medical issue apparently.

Winn
Martin or Polk
Tank.........................I'm drawn to Tank because he's a kick ass smash mouth intense football player.....but I'm not sure he fits in our scheme

[woodbuck27]

32 127 New York Giants (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/giants.html) Adrien Robinson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/64583.html)TE (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/TE.html) Cincinnati (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/380.html)

33 128* Minnesota Vikings (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/vikings.html) Rhett Ellison (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/68527.html)TE (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/TE.html) USC (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/370.html)

[gbgary]

Football is a game of inches - or lack thereof.

hehe

[Sparkey]

Polk or Illoka

[Lurker64]

Could also be a QB here. Ryan Lindley or B.J. Coleman wouldn't be ridiculous.

[Bretsky]

f'ckin Seahawks........this is where GB was going to take RUSSELL

[woodbuck27]

34 129* Oakland Raiders (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/raiders.html) Miles Burris (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/70276.html)OLB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/OLB.html) ;San Diego State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/377.html)

35 130* Baltimore Ravens (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/ravens.html)

[Lurker64]

Polk or Illoka

We have two picks back to back.

But I don't like Iloka, Aaron Rouse 2.0 IMO. Alternatively "Poor man's Taylor Mays"

[Fosco33]

Funny that most rate Henry as being much better than Badger fans do; normally it's the other way

Too many times watching people get behind him for last second heaves... but yeah, we're the worst homers normally.

[Lurker64]

Packers on the clock for the next ten minutes!

[Fosco33]

I'm thinking David Molk (C, Michigan) and Martin

[Bretsky]

Could also be a QB here. Ryan Lindley or B.J. Coleman wouldn't be ridiculous.

puke

[3irty1]

Here comes a safety with one of these two picks. A couple that are well worth it IMO.

[Bretsky]

Adam Gettis ......I could see that

[woodbuck27]

35 130* Baltimore Ravens (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/ravens.html) Christian Thompson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/84164.html)S (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/S.html) South Carolina State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/392.html)

36 131* New York Giants (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/giants.html)

37 132* Green Bay Packers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/packers.html)

38 133* Green Bay Packers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/packers.html)

39 134* Minnesota Vikings (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/vikings.html)

[pittstang5]

Markelle Martin - Safety, Oklahoma State
Tom Compton - OT, South Dakota
Billy Winn - DE, Boise State

Any of those 3, I’m happy

[Bretsky]

Time for Ted to deal one of these two picks for a 5th and 6th :)

[Lurker64]

puke

I don't ever want to see Graham Harrell try to lead an NFL offense.

[woodbuck27]

Who do we want?

Billy Winn - DE, Boise State !!

[Lurker64]

Time for Ted to deal one of these two picks for a 5th and 6th :)

Can't trade compensatories. Gotta pick here.

[Bretsky]

Terrell Manning...OLB
Anthony Allen ...S

Just pick Billy Winn and get it over with TT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lurker64]

Who do we want?

Ted is much better on day 3 than I am. In Ted We Trust.

He'll probably take at least one OL here.

[Bretsky]

We've got rd 7 for some QB's

BILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[Gunakor]

Terrell Manning...OLB
Anthony Allen ...S

Just pick Billy Winn and get it over with TT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Allen couldn't fill in for what Collins did. Allen could be a dominant SS, playing close to the line. He could never be a deep cover 2 safety.

[Freak Out]

Woot! RB :)

[Bretsky]

Ted is much better on day 3 than I am. In Ted We Trust.

He'll probably take at least one OL here.

Iowa OG ???

[woodbuck27]

36 131* New York Giants (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/giants.html) Brandon Mosley (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/109401.html)OLB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/OLB.html) Auburn (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/83.html)


37 132* Green Bay Packers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/packers.html)


38 133* Green Bay Packers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/teams/packers.html)


TT GO DL again and Billy Winn please.

[pbmax]

While I was ok with hayward pick - we still have Davon House... Maybe coaches don't think he can be regular rotational guy.

I think Justin might be onto something, Hayward might be backing up Wood in the slot rather than Bush.

[Freak Out]

WTF?

[gbgary]

ol...i'm good with that.

[Bretsky]

Double Dam Commercial again

[Lurker64]

WTF?

Did they announce 133, or are the Packers going to take 10 minutes an announce 132 and 133 back to back?

[pittstang5]

C'mon...what's the pick!?!?!

[Freak Out]

No clue.....just went to ZERO!

[woodbuck27]

We've got rd 7 for some QB's

BILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY


At least we'll have one fella fr. Boise State...he's good too.

[Bretsky]

if anybody knows our dam pick plz post it.......I hate dd commercials when the pick is in

[pbmax]

Running out of Packer friendly CBs. Only green I have above UDFA is Chris Greenwood, the D3 prospect.

Thompson said they wanted Hayward with that trade up specifically, but you might have the other reason here.

[pittstang5]

Always on commercial when they pick

[gbgary]

still no pick(s) announced yet...

[Bretsky]

I thought Freak new the pick was a RB

[Lurker64]

No clue.....just went to ZERO!

Which means we pass on 132 which means that the... Green Bay Packers are on the clock with #133.

[pittstang5]

This is retarded

[Gunakor]

Ted Thompson broke the draft. 4th round knockout. Aaron better watch his belt.

[Bretsky]

Ted is pissed he can't trade these so he's making up wait all ten minutes

[woodbuck27]

Come ON TEDDY ...GO Billy.

[Lurker64]

Maybe they're going to announce them from the floor, so they're waiting for TV.

[gbgary]

trade maybe??

[pittstang5]

Which means we pass on 132 which means that the... Green Bay Packers are on the clock with #133.

TT Pass...not likely

[woodbuck27]

Ted is pissed he can't trade these so he's making up wait all ten minutes


Ted confused he was planning on another TRADE...he wants a rule change.

[woozle]

That must of been the problem with Minn and curly a few years back. He thought he could watch the commercials and not pick!

[gbgary]

trade maybe??

nope...i knew better than that.

[pittstang5]

trade maybe??

Can't trade

[woodbuck27]

TT Pass...not likely

TT's too tired to pick.

[gbgary]

mike daniels at 132...dl

[pittstang5]

Who?

[Brando19]

Mike Daniels DT Iowa.

[Lurker64]

Now that, I don't get.

And I'm a Hawkeye fan.

[Sparkey]

Mike Daniels

[Bretsky]

Mike Daniels...............DT..............I can live with that

[Fosco33]

DT iowa

[woodbuck27]

Did Ted take a bathroom break??

[Sparkey]

Jerron McMillian - SS Maine

[Bretsky]

Jerron McMillen...Safety....

[Fosco33]

McMillian - Safety - Maine

[Brando19]

Safety!!!

[gbgary]

133...jerron mcmillian.s...

[Bretsky]

Now that, I don't get.

And I'm a Hawkeye fan.

Not a good sign
what is your scouting report on Daniels ???

[woodbuck27]

Well he goes to a DT>>Mike Daniels; Iowa.

Grade 2.46

http://cache.profootballweekly.com/prospects/player/mike-daniels-93/

Positives:
Has natural leverage and is difficult to engage. Explosive quickness and disruptive penetrating ability. Highly athletic. Terrific balance and agility — feels pressure and protects his legs. Coordinates quick, active hands and feet and has flexible hips to work an edge. Surprising punch strength. Propels himself off blocks. Ranges to secure tackles and is able to drop into short zone. Rare leaping ability. Is tough and will play hurt. Outstanding football character with leadership traits.
Negatives:
Undersized — is short and lacks ideal height and bulk. Is not stout against the run. Moved by double-teams. Lets his pads rise and gets jostled inside. Rotation player until senior season. Durability needs to be considered — is not built to withstand a 16-week pounding and has been dinged up, including multiple concussions.
Summary:
Small-framed, explosive, upfield penetrator with outstanding athletic ability and tireless work habits. Is not suited to handle a large percentage of snaps, but provides value as a sub-package rusher.

[gbgary]

all D so far. lovin' it!

[Brandon494]

DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE! Just like I said, TT knows what he is doing and I love it! :D

[Sparkey]

Mike Daniels

Biography: All-conference selection as a senior after totaling 66 tackles/12.5 tackles for loss/8 sacks. Started eight games as his junior, finishing with 40/11/4.

Positives: Quick, explosive defensive lineman who makes plays in all directions of the field. Fires off the snap with a great first step, explodes through the gaps up the field and plays low to the ground. Immediately gets his hands up, fights hard throughout the action and keeps his feet moving up the field. Easily changes direction, fluid if asked to twist or stunt and also displays the ability to hold his ground against blocks.

Negatives: Lacks bulk and gets out-positioned from the action or controlled by a single blocker. Gets rag dolled in the middle of the line if he cannot get the first step on blockers.

Analysis: Daniels showed consistent improvement in his game the past three seasons and is a potential three-technique lineman who will also get consideration as a defensive end in certain 34 alignments.

Projection: 5th

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/68481.html#ixzz1tMJoEbtf

[Bretsky]

9 sacks for Daniels............Mel Kiper likes the pick

[Sparkey]

Jerron McMillian

Biography: Three-year starter awarded all-conference honors since his junior season and named to numerous All-American teams last year. Senior totals included 92 tackles/1 interceptions/5 pass breakups and 11.5 tackles for loss. Junior numbers included 58 tackles and a team-leading six pass breakups.

Positives: Explosive safety with nice size. Fast moving in every area of the field, takes good angles to the action and works hard to make plays. Has an explosive nature to his game, effectively patrols center field and plays with an aggressive attitude. Quick up the field to defend the run and is a solid open-field tackler. Displays good range moving sideline to sideline and is fast getting outside the numbers to make plays.

Negatives: Average ball skills. Displays marginal quickness driving to the ball out of his plant.

Analysis: McMillian is a terrific run-defending safety who's also displays the athleticism and movement skills necessary to cover the pass in centerfield. He must polish his technique yet offers upside and could surprise in the NFL.

Projection: 7th

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/69533.html#ixzz1tMK1TsB8

[Bretsky]

McMillen...........Mel Kiper.......8th overall safety

[Fosco33]

DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE! Just like I said, TT knows what he is doing and I love it! :D

+1

[Lurker64]

Not a good sign
what is your scouting report on Daniels ???

He's a penetrator, played on the interior of the DL, was third in the Big Ten in sacks last year. He's a short guy so I thought he would be a nose. My guess is he's a nickel DT exclusively.

[Tony Oday]

Reach on the Saftey projected as a sixth. Looks like the Iowa guy is a DE in our system.

[pbmax]

Mike Daniels, 6' 1", 291, DT (project to Pack as 3-4 DE)
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1692684

Overview

Daniels was lightly recruited out of high school, choosing Iowa over Temple. After redshirting in 2007, he saw limited action as a reserve end/tackle in 2008, recording six tackles, one tackle for loss and a sack. He was a backup defensive tackle in 2009 as a sophomore, finishing with 10 tackles, 1.5 tackles for loss and 1.5 sacks. Daniels earned a starting job in 2010 as a junior with eight starts, recording 40 tackles, 11.0 tackles for loss and 4.0 sacks, earning All-Big Ten Honorable Mention honors. He had his most productive season in 2011 as a senior (13 starts), finishing with 67 tackles and a team-best 13.5 tackles for loss and 9.0 sacks, earning Second Team All-Big Ten honors. Daniels
is an undersized interior player, but plays with the quickness and motor to be productive at the next level ? a lot to love about his first step burst and explosion. He was the spark plug of the defense at Iowa and was productive against both the pass and run, leading the team in both sacks and tackles for loss as a senior. Daniels lacks the length, core strength and overall size that teams look for and he won?t be a great fit in every defensive front, but he?s a player who will fit in a rotation somewhere and has enough physical skill to contribute ? very similar prospect as Colts defensive tackle Drake Nevis and looks like a solid top-125 pick. ANAYLYSIS Strengths: A coordinated athlete with a lightning quick first step and natural explosion ? routinely the first defensive lineman off the ball. Built low to the ground and is most effective when he keeps his pad level low and battles. Has active hands to slip blocks and a high motor to never give up on the play ? plays hard and hungry on every snap. Agile and nimble footwork with smooth body control ? very light on his feet. Fights through the whistle and is always chirping and going at full-go ? love his effort and determination. Extremely tough, battling through an ankle sprain most of 2011. A leader and hard worker off the field, adding over 50-pounds since enrolling as a 230-pound freshman. Consistently productive over his career (27 tackles for loss and 15.5 sacks). Weaknesses: Undersized and lacks elite bulk and girth for an interior defensive lineman ? doesn?t have NFL measureables or length. Lacks a stout anchor and can be redirected off the snap with underwhelming base strength. Tends to play too upright at times and needs to be more consistent with his leverage to maximize his potential. Has short arms and has room to improve his pass rush technique. Struggles to disengage with inconsistent hand use and power ? too often gets lost in a crowd. Needs to wrap and finish, too often settling to just hit the ballcarrier. Battled a leg injury for most of the past season so his medical will be important. Will be scheme-specific at the next level because of his lack of size and strength ? won?t be a fit for everyone. NFL Comparison: Drake Nevis -- Dane Brugler

[pbmax]

Analysis of Mike Daniels from CBSSports Draft Scout

Strengths: A coordinated athlete with a lightning quick first step and natural explosion ... routinely the first defensive lineman off the ball. Built low to the ground and is most effective when he keeps his pad level low and battles. Has active hands to slip blocks and a high motor to never give up on the play ... plays hard and hungry on every snap. Agile and nimble footwork with smooth body control ... very light on his feet. Fights through the whistle and is always chirping and going at full-go ... love his effort and determination. Extremely tough, battling through an ankle sprain most of 2011. A leader and hard worker off the field, adding over 50-pounds since enrolling
as a 230-pound freshman. Consistently productive over his career (27 tackles for loss and 15.5 sacks). Weaknesses: Undersized and lacks elite bulk and girth for an interior defensive lineman ... doesn't have NFL measureables or length. Lacks a stout anchor and can be redirected off the snap with underwhelming base strength. Tends to play too upright at times and needs to be more consistent with his leverage to maximize his potential. Has short arms and has room to improve his pass rush technique. Struggles to disengage with inconsistent hand use and power ... too often gets lost in a crowd. Needs to wrap and finish, too often settling to just hit the ballcarrier. Battled a leg injury for most of the past season so his medical will be important. Will be scheme-specific at the next level because of his lack of size and strength - won't be a fit for everyone. NFL Comparison: Drake Nevis -- Dane Brugler

[pittstang5]

Like the McMillian pick, although I had him in the 6th round, but TT must have realy liked him to take him there.

Don't have anything on the Iowa DT. will be researching

[Upnorth]

Why get a run defending saftey when pass d is the problem?

[gbgary]

let's trade our next 3 picks and get an o-lineman now in the 5th.

[Upnorth]

Analysis of Mike Daniels from CBSSports Draft Scout

Strengths: A coordinated athlete with a lightning quick first step and natural explosion ... routinely the first defensive lineman off the ball. Built low to the ground and is most effective when he keeps his pad level low and battles. Has active hands to slip blocks and a high motor to never give up on the play ... plays hard and hungry on every snap. Agile and nimble footwork with smooth body control ... very light on his feet. Fights through the whistle and is always chirping and going at full-go ... love his effort and determination. Extremely tough, battling through an ankle sprain most of 2011. A leader and hard worker off the field, adding over 50-pounds since enrolling
as a 230-pound freshman. Consistently productive over his career (27 tackles for loss and 15.5 sacks). Weaknesses: Undersized and lacks elite bulk and girth for an interior defensive lineman ... doesn't have NFL measureables or length. Lacks a stout anchor and can be redirected off the snap with underwhelming base strength. Tends to play too upright at times and needs to be more consistent with his leverage to maximize his potential. Has short arms and has room to improve his pass rush technique. Struggles to disengage with inconsistent hand use and power ... too often gets lost in a crowd. Needs to wrap and finish, too often settling to just hit the ballcarrier. Battled a leg injury for most of the past season so his medical will be important. Will be scheme-specific at the next level because of his lack of size and strength - won't be a fit for everyone. NFL Comparison: Drake Nevis -- Dane Brugler

So to me all the DL picks are too upright and need to work on pad level!

[Brando19]

Looks like the Dolphins are looking to get rid of LT Jake Long!!! I just started a thread about it.

[pbmax]

CBS has nothing for McMillan except height and weight. 5-11, 203

[woodbuck27]

Safety!!!


Yea from the University of MAINE..Uhh ?

They play hockey there.

[wist43]

Daniels fits the versatile DE/DT rotation guy that we needed.

He can rotate outside on base downs, and provide inside pass rush along with Raji.

What I would really like now is a space eater inside to spell Raji more...

We're makin progress though :)

[woodbuck27]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si//.e1d/img/4.0/global/football/nfl/logos/packers_30.pngGREEN BAY PACKERS


28 (28) Nick Perry (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/80572.html)OLB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/OLB.html)USC (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/370.html)


2 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/2.html) 19 (51) Jerel Worthy (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/83357.html);DT (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/DT.html);Michigan State (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/365.html)


2 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/2.html) 31 (62) Casey Hayward (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/84357.html);CB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/CB.html);Vanderbilt (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/80.html)


4 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/4.html) 37 (132) * Mike Daniels (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/68481.html);DT (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/DT.html);Iowa (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/48.html)


4 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_round/4.html) 38 (133) * Jerron McMillian (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/players/69533.html);S (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_position/S.html);Maine (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2012/breakdowns/by_school/25.html) ***


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Jerone McMillian Strong Safety ,Maine

Overview

One of the top prospects to emerge from Maine in years, McMillian is a strong and physical safety who will be valued fairly high by an NFL team that needs help in its run defense.

He is an athlete who at times can look stiff in his movements when covering the pass.

When it comes to getting involved in the run game, McMillian brings it full-go every time and is a real aggressive player. His value lies in his ability to support the run and be a sure tackler, and he has sixth-round value based on this.

He will likely be a make-it guy as a late-round selection for a team as he will be a reliable backup option early on and a serious contributor on special teams.

Without doubt he is a player who needs to be heavily involved with the front seven and will be attractive to blitz-heavy defenses.

[pbmax]

Daniels looks out of place in the Packer 3-4, but they must be thinking about nickel.

[gbgary]

Yea from the University of MAINE..Uhh ?

They play hockey there.

maine blackbears.

[3irty1]

I had the notes on McMillian in the "safety dance" thread.

Jerron McMillian, SS, Maine
5'11” 203 lbs Round 7
Tackle-machine with an NFL body. Not much of a ball-hawk but the Packers worked him out so they must at least like him as a special teamer with upside.
40 Yrd Dash: 4.35 (p)
20 Yrd Dash: 2.53 (p)
10 Yrd Dash: 1.40 (p)
Vertical Jump: 39 (p)
Broad Jump: 10'06” (p)
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.22
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 17
3-Cone Drill: 6.69

[Lurker64]

Why get a run defending saftey when pass d is the problem?

I think the reason you take McMillian is not "run defense". I think he mostly played SS because they already had a FS in Maine.

His combine workout was off the charts. 4.36 forty, 4.22 shuttle, and 6.69 cone. The kid can move.

[Brando19]

I had the notes on McMillian in the "safety dance" thread.

Jerron McMillian, SS, Maine
5'11” 203 lbs Round 7
Tackle-machine with an NFL body. Not much of a ball-hawk but the Packers worked him out so they must at least like him as a special teamer with upside.
40 Yrd Dash: 4.35 (p)
20 Yrd Dash: 2.53 (p)
10 Yrd Dash: 1.40 (p)
Vertical Jump: 39 (p)
Broad Jump: 10'06” (p)
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.22
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 17
3-Cone Drill: 6.69

ESPN said the complete opposite...he's a ballhawk with great range but has problems tackling.

[3irty1]

Had over 90 tackles last year defending the run. I thought he'd be a low round pick, the Packers must really love him.

[mmmdk]

I really like the focus from TT on D-line! :tup:

[Lurker64]

Daniels looks out of place in the Packer 3-4, but they must be thinking about nickel.

If you just put him in as one of the DL in the nickel, he's going to get in the backfield. I think it's a specialist pick, the question is whether that's worth a roster spot.

[pittstang5]

Daniels fits the versatile DE/DT rotation guy that we needed.

He can rotate outside on base downs, and provide inside pass rush along with Raji.

What I would really like now is a space eater inside to spell Raji more...

We're makin progress though :)

Nick Jean-Babtiste, Baylor, NT - Could be a FA....I'd take him in the 6th if he's there.

[mmmdk]

He's a penetrator, played on the interior of the DL, was third in the Big Ten in sacks last year. He's a short guy so I thought he would be a nose. My guess is he's a nickel DT exclusively.

Thanks!

But why didn't you like him?

[pbmax]

McMillan visited the Packers pre draft.

Ran a 40 as fast as 4.35 but was 4.5+ at the combine.


Height & Weight: 5'11 - 203 lbs.

2012 NFL Combine Results
40-Yard Dash 4.56
Bench press 17
Vertical jump 36.5
Broad jump 10'0
Three-cone 6.69
20-yard shuttle 4.22

[3irty1]

Well he had 92 tackles and 1 int last year. They could be talking about his teammate Coston who had 6 picks but he also had 80+ tackles. McMililan is definitely a solid tackler.

[Guiness]

Reach on the Saftey projected as a sixth. Looks like the Iowa guy is a DE in our system.

He's 133kg and they're saying he lacks bulk, so he will probably move outside. I don't think Cullen Jenkins was much bigger than that when he got here though, was he?

[Gunakor]

If you just put him in as one of the DL in the nickel, he's going to get in the backfield. I think it's a specialist pick, the question is whether that's worth a roster spot.

The Packers have played a ton of nickel the past 2 seasons.

[Lurker64]

Thanks!

But why didn't you like him?

I like the player, I'm confused about the fit. Elite motor, toughness, quicks. Frame is a big time red though.

[Brandon494]

ESPN said the complete opposite...he's a ballhawk with great range but has problems tackling.

Thats why I don't watch ESPN, they have no idea what they are talking about.

[pbmax]

I think the reason you take McMillian is not "run defense". I think he mostly played SS because they already had a FS in Maine.

His combine workout was off the charts. 4.36 forty, 4.22 shuttle, and 6.69 cone. The kid can move.

Bunch of sites had the 4.35 40 at his Pro Day. Combine was slower on those sites (4.5)

[wist43]

Daniels looks out of place in the Packer 3-4, but they must be thinking about nickel.


If you just put him in as one of the DL in the nickel, he's going to get in the backfield. I think it's a specialist pick, the question is whether that's worth a roster spot.

"Out of place"?? "Worth a roster spot"??

He's exactly what we need in a DT/DE, base/nickel, 3T interior pass rush... "worth a roster spot"??

What were you guys looking for if not a guy like Daniels??

[3irty1]

If you just put him in as one of the DL in the nickel, he's going to get in the backfield. I think it's a specialist pick, the question is whether that's worth a roster spot.

Klug and McPhee were guys who went about this time last year that produced as interior pass rushing role players. I think that's what the Pack is after. That, and a guy with a similar skillset and nonstop motor to push Worthy.

[pbmax]

McMillan

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/03/22/sports/umaine-seniors-showcase-skills-for-nfl-scouts/

There is a video of the Pro Day there.

[woodbuck27]

CBS has nothing for McMillan except height and weight. 5-11, 203

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Defensive Back Combine Results


http://fantasyfootballmastermindz.com/?page_id=2123

[Bretsky]

ESNP....GM Jerry Genius getting an interview

[3irty1]

CJ Wilson, and Jarius Wynn are going to have trouble making this team. We've added 4 DL now between the draft and Free Agency.

[Bretsky]

"Out of place"?? "Worth a roster spot"??

He's exactly what we need in a DT/DE, base/nickel, 3T interior pass rush... "worth a roster spot"??

What were you guys looking for if not a guy like Daniels??

Billy Winn

[Bretsky]

CJ Wilson, and Jarius Wynn are going to have trouble making this team. We've added 4 DL now between the draft and Free Agency.


Out with the J.A.G.S.

[mmmdk]

I like the player, I'm confused about the fit. Elite motor, toughness, quicks. Frame is a big time red though.

Thanks again, love the insight! :five:

[Gunakor]

CJ Wilson, and Jarius Wynn are going to have trouble making this team. We've added 4 DL now between the draft and Free Agency.


Hargrove might be unavailable for part of the season though. I think one of them will make this team but not both.

[RashanGary]

Well, if nothing else, our DL is going to be completely different than last year. We seem to be stacking up on the quick-pass rushing types. Turns out the Packers seem to think they can get pass rush out of the DL as well as the OLB positions. That whole, DE's are just big run stopping stiff thing doesn't seem to match up with the Packers view of the DE's.

[wist43]

Billy Winn

I would have been okay with Winn there... why not Winn and Daniels with the back-to-back picks??

Dump Wilson, Wynn, Green, Muir... for a start :)

[Lurker64]

Klug and McPhee were guys who went about this time last year that produced as interior pass rushing role players. I think that's what the Pack is after. That, and a guy with a similar skillset and nonstop motor to push Worthy.

I'm warming to it, it just shocked me at the time. I like the player, I think he'll be a good NFL player and I need to be less hung up on fitting guys into specific molds.

Interestingly both of the DL we drafted this year are really quick off the snap. Worthy's anticipation was excellent and Daniels gets off like he was fired from a cannon. That's definitely something that some of our late round journeymen lack.

[RashanGary]

"Out of place"?? "Worth a roster spot"??

He's exactly what we need in a DT/DE, base/nickel, 3T interior pass rush... "worth a roster spot"??

What were you guys looking for if not a guy like Daniels??

Boy, the Packers aren't fucking around with the front 7 in this draft. A big pass rushing OLB and two quick pass rushing type DL.

[Bretsky]

I would have been okay with Winn there... why not Winn and Daniels with the back-to-back picks??

Dump Wilson, Wynn, Green, Muir... for a start :)

I would have been on board

[Guiness]

From the link pbmax posted


safety Jerron McMillian participated in the NFL Scouting Combine at Indianapolis, where he led all defensive backs with a vertical leap of 36½ inches. On Thursday, he jumped 39 inches.

But his teamate outdid him!


Coston’s stock continues to rise as the off-season progresses. He uncorked a vertical leap of 43 inches

[RashanGary]

If nothing else, ol' Beej is should be fresh in the 4th quarter. Holy shit.

[Bretsky]

JOSH NORMAN by Carolina......................I REALLY liked that one

[Upnorth]

I think the reason you take McMillian is not "run defense". I think he mostly played SS because they already had a FS in Maine.

His combine workout was off the charts. 4.36 forty, 4.22 shuttle, and 6.69 cone. The kid can move.

WOW, those are great numbers, and I see why TT drafted him. Do we have the secondary coaching to coach him up? I have waffled back and forth on this. We have had some limited sucsess coaching up some of our secondary players, and then occasionally we get an amazing result like Collins or TWill.