Jolly released from prison - gets shock probation

[MadScientist]

Judge grants Johnny Jolly 'shock probation' (http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8661971)

Perhaps they should use the shock collar as a way to treat the addiction itself.
Here have some drugs.
Zap!
Have some more drugs.
Zap! Zap!
...

[Fritz]

I'm shocked.

No, wait, Johnny Jolly is.

And since someone has to ask, let it be me:

Should the Packers attempt to sign him?

I say yes!

[smuggler]

They don't have to sign him. They have him under contract as soon as his suspension from the NFL ends. Then they'll cut him unless there's some form of miracle from now until then.

[hoosier]

While it would be nice to see him back with the Packers, the time off can't have been good for his development--or his body. Somehow I think he has a better chance of showing up in the USFL than the NFL, and even that might be a stretch after two years of likely inactivity. On a human note, hopefully he's had some kind of conversion during his time in prison.

[Smidgeon]

While it would be nice to see him back with the Packers, the time off can't have been good for his development--or his body. Somehow I think he has a better chance of showing up in the USFL than the NFL, and even that might be a stretch after two years of likely inactivity. On a human note, hopefully he's had some kind of conversion during his time in prison.

Agreed

[Fritz]

None of you are doing a very good job today of indulging my Packer fantasy here. Dammit, you're supposed to come out and say that there are reports that Jolly has taken very good care of himself (prison workouts!) and is sincere in his attempts to go clean. Then one of you is supposed to chime in with a report of a report that TT and MM are rumored to be setting up a meeting with Jolly.

You people and your "reality" crap. "Reality" this and "reality" that. You're all a bunch of Patlers.

[MJZiggy]

None of you are doing a very good job today of indulging my Packer fantasy here. Dammit, you're supposed to come out and say that there are reports that Jolly has taken very good care of himself (prison workouts!) and is sincere in his attempts to go clean. Then one of you is supposed to chime in with a report of a report that TT and MM are rumored to be setting up a meeting with Jolly.

You people and your "reality" crap. "Reality" this and "reality" that. You're all a bunch of Patlers.

Patler is willing to dream a little.

[woodbuck27]

I'm shocked.

No, wait, Johnny Jolly is.

And since someone has to ask, let it be me:

Should the Packers attempt to sign him?

I say yes!

We're definitely hard against it now. The darkness of 'the real offseason'. The maximum test of anyone who enjoys posting on an NFL team forum.

[Harlan Huckleby]

And since someone has to ask, let it be me:

Should the Packers attempt to sign him?

I say yes!

Fuck ya, sign him, if he is physically still an athlete.

Man, I certainly hope the NFL reinstates the guy without condition, immediately. Dude has suffered enough for his crimes (even worse than Nixon and his phlebitis, for you old people.)

I hope you can latch-on to a contract somewhere and rebuild his life.

[MadtownPacker]

Shoot the messenger! I thought dude was gonna be on house arrest and have an ankle bracelet that shocked his ass when he left it's range.

I dont see why he shouldn't be given another chance. Several on here felt Jolly would have stood a better chance at not relapsing if he got to be around the team. At least see what he can bring to the table.

[Joemailman]

If Jolly gets reinstated, he might have the most influential Packer on his side. Rodgers said this after Jolly's latest arrest, which landed him in jail:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/aaron-rodgers-johnny-jolly-nfl-deserves-some-blame-green-bay-packers-100511


"It's just disappointing. And I'll be honest, I think the league deserves some of the blame in this case," Rodgers said. "When you look at some of the other guys that have been reinstated in the league after jail sentences, and justly, rightly so. Johnny didn't serve any days in prison, sat out for a year and still couldn't get his case heard, from what I was told."

"I just think that's wrong. … I think the commissioner's done a great job of cleaning up some of the stuff in the league. That said, if you take a guy away from his support system … I don't think that's helping."

[MadtownPacker]

Fuck, ARod doesnt bother trying to play GM, he goes straight for the Commish job! :lol:

But he is right. Who the hell did Jolly hurt besides himself? plastico got to play and what he did was just if not more stupid.

[woodbuck27]

Johnny Jolly 'Criminal Charges'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Jolly

This hurt him:

** "March 25, 2011... arrested and charged with possession of a controlled substance with intent to distribute after police allegedly found 600 grams of codeine in his vehicle.

** Caught driving a car with a suspended license. Jolly was arrested and charged again on October 1, 2011 for possession of codeine and tampering with evidence by trying to hide the drug.

** November 17, 2011 Jolly was sentenced to 6 years in prison for violation of probation in conjunction to his arrest for possession of narcotics.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Jolly#cite_note-6) On May 15th, Jolly was granted early release with a 10 year *** 'shock probation'.


*** Shock probation is the policy by which a judge orders a convicted offender to prison for a short time then suspends the remainder of the sentence in favor of probation. It is hopedthat the initial experience of prison will provide an effective deterrent from recidivism." Fr.Wikipedia

[swede]

...Dude has suffered enough for his crimes (even worse than Nixon and his phlebitis, for you old people.)...



Thanks. Whenever I hear Nixon and phlebitis in the same sentence I think of him and Bebe Rebozo walking along the beach. Good times...good times.

[denverYooper]

None of you are doing a very good job today of indulging my Packer fantasy here. Dammit, you're supposed to come out and say that there are reports that Jolly has taken very good care of himself (prison workouts!) and is sincere in his attempts to go clean. Then one of you is supposed to chime in with a report of a report that TT and MM are rumored to be setting up a meeting with Jolly.

You people and your "reality" crap. "Reality" this and "reality" that. You're all a bunch of Patlers.

I heard he's been lifting a lot in the joint and is in remarkably good shape.

[Lurker64]

Goodell isn't going to unsuspend Jolly any time soon. If he wants to play in the league again, he needs to spend the next 10 months working out and assembling his resume for sainthood. If he doesn't rescue at least a dozen stranded kittens from trees, he's got no hope.

[MadScientist]

Shoot the messenger! I thought dude was gonna be on house arrest and have an ankle bracelet that shocked his ass when he left it's range.

I dont see why he shouldn't be given another chance. Several on here felt Jolly would have stood a better chance at not relapsing if he got to be around the team. At least see what he can bring to the table.

Actually that is what I thought was happening from the original article. I didn't see the accurate description of shock parole until later. It must be some Texas thing and the article from the Texas paper just assumed that people know what shock parole is.

I still think zapping the crap out of him repeatedly every time he reaches for codeine might help, in some sort of Pavlovian way. Most standard drug treatments seem to fail miserably.

[wootah]

I still think zapping the crap out of him repeatedly every time he reaches for codeine might help, in some sort of Pavlovian way. Most standard drug treatments seem to fail miserably.

Dear scientist, you surely must know that this only works if they play a bit of the old Ludwig van at the same time.

[wist43]

By all accounts Jolly is a good kid... he just has the monkey on his back.

If he kept himself in shape? yeah, keep him in the fold. That said, Jolly has to get a handle on his life... if he doesn't, he'll likely reoffend.

[Fritz]

Ah, reality. Even IF he's reinstated, as someone here said, that'll take time - interviews and all that. Then there's the question of working himself back into shape.

Mebbe next year. How old will he be then, anyway?

[Joemailman]

Ah, reality. Even IF he's reinstated, as someone here said, that'll take time - interviews and all that. Then there's the question of working himself back into shape.

Mebbe next year. How old will he be then, anyway?

Jolly is 29 now. If he could get reinstated next year, he could still have a few years left.

[Iron Mike]

Dear scientist, you surely must know that this only works if they play a bit of the old Ludwig van at the same time.

http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://data.whicdn.com/images/14927825/alex-de-large-bordered-31000_large.jpg&sa=X&ei=v5yzT5e2B4b88gSsqcXjAg&ved=0CAsQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNF0p_73rc1-qKsVZmQ6bauVRvNpUw

I was cured all right!!!

[Fosco33]

A few easy things to add:

-Michael Vick and his return to NFL starter
-Fucked up drug laws in this country; especially when they label his possession of cough syrup mixed with mountain dew as 100% codeine (e.g., 600 grams = 21 oz liquid)

This whole thing has sucked - and it isn't over here. This guy needs the NFL and GB - and he won't get there again. Too bad.

[pbmax]

Here you go, fritz.

Detailed forensic analysis of these two photos lead me to conclude that Jolly is both at his normal playing weight and in fine shape to prepare for football. Just remember, however, that he can't rush the passer worth a lick. But between he and Raji, no screen pass will be safe against the Packer D.

http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/ktrk/cms_exf_2007/_video_wn_images/8548867_448x252.jpg

http://www.espnmilwaukee.com/upload/Jolly.jpg

[George Cumby]

Here you go, fritz.

Detailed forensic analysis of these two photos lead me to conclude that Jolly is both at his normal playing weight and in fine shape to prepare for football. Just remember, however, that he can't rush the passer worth a lick. But between he and Raji, no screen pass will be safe against the Packer D.

http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/ktrk/cms_exf_2007/_video_wn_images/8548867_448x252.jpg

http://www.espnmilwaukee.com/upload/Jolly.jpg

He's looking pretty good, considering.

Get him back to GB and away from MFing Houston and close to his support group.

[woodbuck27]

Here you go, fritz.

Detailed forensic analysis of these two photos lead me to conclude that Jolly is both at his normal playing weight and in fine shape to prepare for football. Just remember, however, that he can't rush the passer worth a lick. But between he and Raji, no screen pass will be safe against the Packer D.

http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/ktrk/cms_exf_2007/_video_wn_images/8548867_448x252.jpg


http://www.espnmilwaukee.com/upload/Jolly.jpg

He looks 'a tad confused' in that upper photo. Also a little light. I wonder if he was eating well?

[Packers4Glory]

rather have a drug addict over a guy who leads the lg in drops and battered women.

[Pugger]

I'd rather have Worthy.

[woodbuck27]

I'd rather have Worthy.

Focused.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I'd rather have Worthy.

While I appreciate the nod to one of the best from the Showtime era, how will he help the Packers defense?

http://www.laverneonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/sowing-seeds-worthy.jpg

[Fritz]

I'd rather have Worthy.

Why make it an either/or with Worthy and Jolly?

I'd rather have Jolly than Wynn or Wilson, and even Howard Green.

[Brandon494]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7937567/ex-green-bay-packers-de-johnny-jolly-granted-shock-probation

Shit is so pointless but sad at the same time, hope he finally gets his life together.

[BobDobbs]

Here you go, fritz.

Detailed forensic analysis of these two photos lead me to conclude that Jolly is both at his normal playing weight and in fine shape to prepare for football. Just remember, however, that he can't rush the passer worth a lick. But between he and Raji, no screen pass will be safe against the Packer D.

http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/images/ktrk/cms_exf_2007/_video_wn_images/8548867_448x252.jpg



http://www.espnmilwaukee.com/upload/Jolly.jpg

It looks like he's lost some definition in his forehead. He's gonna have to start hittin the eyebrow weights.

[Pugger]

While I appreciate the nod to one of the best from the Showtime era, how will he help the Packers defense?

http://www.laverneonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/sowing-seeds-worthy.jpg

:lol:

[Pugger]

Why make it an either/or with Worthy and Jolly?

I'd rather have Jolly than Wynn or Wilson, and even Howard Green.

Why would I want Worthy over Jolly? Worthy is just starting out and his ceiling is high. Jolly is 29 years old and has an affinity for cough syrup that keeps getting him into trouble with the law. Unless he kicks that habit and gets the hell out of Houston and the 'hood he will never change.

[smuggler]

Pugger, nobody is arguing for Jolly over Worthy.

[sharpe1027]

Goodell isn't going to unsuspend Jolly any time soon. If he wants to play in the league again, he needs to spend the next 10 months working out and assembling his resume for sainthood. If he doesn't rescue at least a dozen stranded kittens from trees, he's got no hope.

He should team up with Cory Booker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHN0ZeS5c-4

[woodbuck27]

Pugger, nobody is arguing for Jolly over Worthy.

and ....... how would she absolutely know that?

[Pugger]

Pugger, nobody is arguing for Jolly over Worthy.

I just think it is better to go with Worthy rather than Jolly right now.

[wist43]

If Jolly were the same player he was when he got sent up... then I think Worthy would do well to play to that level.

Losing Jolly really hurt our front seven. For my money, he was our best DL.

[Lurker64]

Jolly, as a college prospect, is not as good a football player as Worthy is as a college prospect. Jolly was, however, a mean son of a bitch on the football field. He was country strong and wanted to beat the crap out of you, and it was infectious. We could use someone like that again. Keep an eye on if there's any DL in TC who starts a lot of fights. Jolly did, and he got the better of most of them.

[woodbuck27]

Jolly, as a college prospect, is not as good a football player as Worthy is as a college prospect. Jolly was, however, a mean son of a bitch on the football field. He was country strong and wanted to beat the crap out of you, and it was infectious. We could use someone like that again. Keep an eye on if there's any DL in TC who starts a lot of fights. Jolly did, and he got the better of most of them.

Your saying we need someone 'a tad crazy' to reveal that in TC. To inject 'the JJ meanness' back into the way Packer defenders defend their ground.

To show 'some sence of emergency' or at least look like they can 'defend as a team'.

GO PACKERS !

[Pugger]

The bigger question is when/if Goodell reinstates him...

[woodbuck27]

The bigger question is when/if Goodell reinstates him...

Yes.

[smuggler]

He's been out of the NFL for 2 years now. I think he'll probably get reinstated if he keeps on the straight of an arrow.

[Guiness]

He's been out of the NFL for 2 years now. I think he'll probably get reinstated if he keeps on the straight of an arrow.

I wouldn't be so sure. It seems like he's been treated pretty harshly by the league so far, no reason to think Goodell do anything different. Whatever it was he did when he first got suspended, the league really came down hard on him when it didn't seem warranted. There were a couple of threads about it at the time.

At 29, he could certainly come back and play. I'd like to see him back with the Pack, I miss those batted balls! He was the best at anticipating and getting a hand passes.

[smuggler]

Yeah, that's true. They, hopefully, had some information that we don't have. Anyway, he's certainly done his time by now. He'll have a few months to get into shape and establish a positive life trend before he applies for reinstatement.

[Fritz]

I wonder how Ted will handle this. Does he have any interest at all, I wonder. But of course, first we've got to find out if Goodell will reinstate. I'm guessing Ted's minions are in contact with NFL offices about this issue right now, as we speak...