Bears Chargers, interesting game

[Rastak]

NFC favorite versus the team the Pack played last week. Should be interesting. Starters may play 2 quarters.

[Rastak]

Ouch....damn, that was a nice pick. Anyway, we'll have to talk about the game tomorrow.

[RIPackerFan]

I don't know how much we can read into it. The Bears got beat on both sides of the ball last week - by the Niners, but I wouldn't put too much stock in it.

They look much better than last week though. Great interception by Urlacher, though Rivers telegraphed it - but man, Urlacher can move.

I can only hope that any of linebackers can show that kind of instinct and speed.

[pack4to84]

Bears OL doesnt look good either against SD D. Rex running 4 his life already

[pack4to84]

1 sack and 2 knock downs on one position

[pack4to84]

maybe packers OL wasnt as bad as we thought... Just a thought

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

The bears are making our defense look like crap.

[pack4to84]

but our DL got more push then Bears so far

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Dam Michael Turner is a beast. He a really hard runner.

[RIPackerFan]

Yeah - I think SD exposed the "newness" of the O-line - and threw a lot at them (which I don't think they were prepared for).

However, I don't think the Bears O-line is that good, so I don't know if the comparison is flattering.

Nice run by San Diego - this is the second week where I have seen the Bears trying to hit hard rather than wrapping up.

[pack4to84]

our D only allowed 3.2 yds a rush. Bears D not so good

[Rastak]

our D only allowed 3.2 yds a rush. Bears D not so good


Not so sure that is true, nice pursuit, nice hitting.

[pack4to84]

also this game Bears plan 4 the game. Last week Packers nor the bears didnt plan for there games

[RIPackerFan]

Good hitting but poor wrap-up. I have seen several plays where the Bears smacked the heck out of the ball carrier but then the ball carrier gained 3 or more yards since they didn't wrap up.

[pack4to84]

pack4to84 wrote:
our D only allowed 3.2 yds a rush. Bears D not so good



Not so sure that is true, nice pursuit, nice hitting.
SD rusher avg 7.75 so far

[gbpackfan]

It is really hard to judge teams in the preseason. The Bears looked like complete crap against the 49ers last week. They look better this week. I wonder if playing at home has anything to do with that. The Bears and the Packers did not look "pumped" up to play their games week 1. I guess we will know more after tomorrow night!

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

You got to give truner some cerdit for the poor tackling, he's playing good

[pack4to84]

wow nice return

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

nice run back

[RIPackerFan]

Nice run back - the poor punter lost his jock strap somewhere on that play.

If the Bears can score like this - they don't need an offense.

[pack4to84]

maybe bears dont need offense

[RIPackerFan]

Pack4to84 - are you reading my posts before I submit them??? :D

[Rastak]

maybe bears dont need offense


They didn't last year.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

maybe bears dont need offense

This is how they were last year, all D and Special teams.

[pack4to84]

I must have been typing at the tiime you post yours

[RIPackerFan]

Once again - poor tackling by the Bears. Man, I hope they don't get that corrected - a lot of YAC.

[BooHoo]

The Bears still have a good defense. They did have a hard time tackling RBs though.

[pack4to84]

bears DL getting no rush at all

[RIPackerFan]

Yeah - they are still good - some great hits, but I had to find a flaw somewhere. :twisted:

[BooHoo]

I think the Chargers will have a good team this year also.

[pack4to84]

Rex must feel he has GB OL

[pack4to84]

Rex got knocked down again.

[pack4to84]

I dont feel as bad about our OL now.

[pack4to84]

Packers rushers avg 3.8 against SD D. So far Bears 3.5avg

[gbpackfan]

The Bears D is solid, of course. But their offense is BRUTAL! I just hope Lovie doesn't wake up and make Griese the starter. He looked pretty good last week. But that was against the twos.

[pack4to84]

The Bears D is solid, of course. But their offense is BRUTAL! I just hope Lovie doesn't wake up and make Griese the starter. He looked pretty good last week. But that was against the twos.

I agree wait til after the Packers game to make switch to Griese

[RIPackerFan]

For as good as the Bears D is supposed to be - there have been several 3rd and long that SD has converted on - very similar to GB last week.

SD has been moving the ball well - so maybe the D didn't play that bad last week.

[pack4to84]

and the Packers didnt blitz at all in the first half last week. And still got presure. Bears have had to blitz to get presure

[Rastak]

For as good as the Bears D is supposed to be - there have been several 3rd and long that SD has converted on - very similar to GB last week.

SD has been moving the ball well - so maybe the D didn't play that bad last week.


That TD looked awfully nice. I like the Bears D....and of course I hate it at the same time. I think they are doing fine...no LT of course but they've held them to 3.

[RIPackerFan]

Man, the Bears recievers can't hold onto anything.

[pack4to84]

If Rex dosent start doing something he will get benched

[RIPackerFan]

I'm not saying that the Packers D = Bears D, but supposedly the Bears have the best D in the league - and the Chargers are still getting something done.

Also, while the Bears are hodling to three - our first D held them to 7 - it was the second string that allowed the second touchdown.

[RIPackerFan]

I'm glad to see Grossman start to connect - if he was too bad - it would be an easy decision to bench him.

[pack4to84]

I'm glad to see Grossman start to connect - if he was too bad - it would be an easy decision to bench him.

Thinking the same thing

[pack4to84]

our luck he throw a INT

[pack4to84]

I called it

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

:D .....Grossman

[pack4to84]

very next play after i typed it he through that INT

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

That was a dumb pass, never had a chance.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

The back ups are going to start coming in. The only team that I actually enjoy watching backups is ours.

[Partial]

is this game on national television or any channel on time warner in wisconsin?

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Its on CBS

[Rastak]

Bottom line, Bears look much better than their putrid performance last week. Defense looks tough and I hate the fact they drafted Hester......

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Bottom line, Bears look much better than their putrid performance last week. Defense looks tough and I hate the fact they drafted Hester......

I agree, they look better. Hopefully we (PACKERS :smile: ) will look better to.

[Partial]

Bottom line, Bears look much better than their putrid performance last week. Defense looks tough and I hate the fact they drafted Hester......

'cause he's good or what? I haven't atched any of this game yet, just turned it on.

[Rastak]

Bottom line, Bears look much better than their putrid performance last week. Defense looks tough and I hate the fact they drafted Hester......

'cause he's good or what? I haven't atched any of this game yet, just turned it on.


No, I'm just scared....LOL.....

[pack4to84]

did any of you see the Cin score? who the Pack play after ATl
Cin 44-17 over bills

[Rastak]

That's why...

[Partial]

How has san diego look compared to last week? are they still bringing the heat?

[RIPackerFan]

Just did some checking - guess who SD gained more yards against in the first half - the Bears vs. the Packers.

Its the Bears.

Last week - the Chargers gained 174 yards against the Packers in the first half.

This week - the Chargers gained 176 yards against the Bears in the first half.

The Chargers had 98 yards rushing this week against the Bears in the first half - while the Packers kept the Chargers to only 82 yards rushing the entire game.

Just some positives. The Packer had no takeaways - while the Bears had one for a touchdown.

However, it is interesting.

[Rastak]

Everytime I hear someone came across the neutral zone I think of the Romulans......

[Partial]

I bet Griese wins the spot. The man is just consistent.

[pack4to84]

How has san diego look compared to last week? are they still bringing the heat?
If you would have read this entire thread you would have seen that Rex was on his backside most of the first half

[pack4to84]

After watching the this game. I'm not too down on your OL as I was before. Pack ran better then Chi againt SD D

[Rastak]

Bottom line, Bears are whipping ass......not that I like that of course....

[Partial]

I am tellin' ya guys, the key to beating the Bears is playing extremely conservative on offense and sending the heat right back at them on D. They don't have the cool/calm quarterback to handle the heat, and if you play a field position game with them I think you can beat them.

[RIPackerFan]

Rastak,

The Bears had 2 big plays - I wouldn't call that whipping ass. SD gained more yards against the Bears in the first half then against the Packers in the first half.

The Bears offense has been anemic - prior to the bench for SD going in - they only had 44 yards.

SD is also beating them in time of possession.

They are playing better - but whipping ass? Get those Bears glasses off.

[pack4to84]

I am tellin' ya guys, the key to beating the Bears is playing extremely conservative on offense and sending the heat right back at them on D. They don't have the cool/calm quarterback to handle the heat, and if you play a field position game with them I think you can beat them.
Now can Favre buy into that.

[Partial]

and the Packers didnt blitz at all in the first half last week. And still got presure. Bears have had to blitz to get presure

balogna, they dominate the second and long front 4 rush. That is their best down, imo.

[Partial]

I am tellin' ya guys, the key to beating the Bears is playing extremely conservative on offense and sending the heat right back at them on D. They don't have the cool/calm quarterback to handle the heat, and if you play a field position game with them I think you can beat them.
Now can Favre buy into that.


Nope, thats why you run 50 times that game if you have to. They need to take favre out of that game and take him out of the situation where he has to think and make a decision between taking a risk or playing it safe.

The key to beating the bears is taking the sack instead of throwing the pick, that is pretty much just it.

[pack4to84]

SD sure having a lot of flags

[RIPackerFan]

Good post Partial - I agree. That offense is not going to beat anyone on their own.

However, looking at the numbers, I wonder if the Bears will be susceptible to the run? SD had a 5.8 yard rushing average in the first half. Last week against San Fran - SF gained 150 yards on the ground, with a 3.9 yards rushing average.

Is this a kink in the armor?

[Lurker64]

Everytime I hear someone came across the neutral zone I think of the Romulans......

I'm so glad I'm not the only one with this problem.

[Rastak]

Rastak,

The Bears had 2 big plays - I wouldn't call that whipping ass. SD gained more yards against the Bears in the first half then against the Packers in the first half.

The Bears offense has been anemic - prior to the bench for SD going in - they only had 44 yards.

SD is also beating them in time of possession.

They are playing better - but whipping ass? Get those Bears glasses off.


Understood....bottom line, and as you know I sure as hell ain't a Bears fan.....24-3.

[Rastak]

Everytime I hear someone came across the neutral zone I think of the Romulans......

I'm so glad I'm not the only one with this problem.


LOL...... :D

[Rastak]

Double post

[pack4to84]

However, looking at the numbers, I wonder if the Bears will be susceptible to the run? SD had a 5.8 yard rushing average in the first half. Last week against San Fran - SF gained 150 yards on the ground, with a 3.9 yards rushing average.

Is this a kink in the armor?
You might be on to something.

[Partial]

Good post Partial - I agree. That offense is not going to beat anyone on their own.

However, looking at the numbers, I wonder if the Bears will be susceptible to the run? SD had a 5.8 yard rushing average in the first half. Last week against San Fran - SF gained 150 yards on the ground, with a 3.9 yards rushing average.

Is this a kink in the armor?

Well, they've got good penetrating tackles and ends susceptible to the run. Generally, the tackles get enough push that the LBs are free to make up for the DE liability against the run. If you want to beat the bears, you need to go right up the middle. I realize urlacher is a monster, but what can he do if a center is on him? 3 yard gain repeat is the way to beat the bears. By the 4th quarter, you'll break one.

As for stopping their offense, stop thomas jones and you stop their offense. They won't convert many 3rd and longs when a blitz is coming at them.

[pack4to84]

sad part is the plays SD is running our miss direction with pulling guards, which Pack dont run anymore with zone blocking.

[Packnut]

I am tellin' ya guys, the key to beating the Bears is playing extremely conservative on offense and sending the heat right back at them on D. They don't have the cool/calm quarterback to handle the heat, and if you play a field position game with them I think you can beat them.
Now can Favre buy into that.


Nope, thats why you run 50 times that game if you have to. They need to take favre out of that game and take him out of the situation where he has to think and make a decision between taking a risk or playing it safe.

The key to beating the bears is taking the sack instead of throwing the pick, that is pretty much just it.



Your theory works IF you have some kind of running game. You can't just run the ball 3 times and punt. It's not that Favre needs to think less, it's the game plan has to be conservative with shorter routes. You can't throw deep down the middle against cover 2 which is something Shermy never learned.

We'll see just how well MM put's a game plan together. The Bears are aggresive. You have to run screens and I don't mean the typical ones. You have to get a little creative. The Bears D is weak towards the sidelines and those are the routes our guys will need to run.

[Partial]

I am tellin' ya guys, the key to beating the Bears is playing extremely conservative on offense and sending the heat right back at them on D. They don't have the cool/calm quarterback to handle the heat, and if you play a field position game with them I think you can beat them.
Now can Favre buy into that.


Nope, thats why you run 50 times that game if you have to. They need to take favre out of that game and take him out of the situation where he has to think and make a decision between taking a risk or playing it safe.

The key to beating the bears is taking the sack instead of throwing the pick, that is pretty much just it.



Your theory works IF you have some kind of running game. You can't just run the ball 3 times and punt. It's not that Favre needs to think less, it's the game plan has to be conservative with shorter routes. You can't throw deep down the middle against cover 2 which is something Shermy never learned.

We'll see just how well MM put's a game plan together. The Bears are aggresive. You have to run screens and I don't mean the typical ones. You have to get a little creative. The Bears D is weak towards the sidelines and those are the routes our guys will need to run.

Nah, I say you keep running right up the gut. They'll tire and you'll become more effective as the game goes on. I would agree though, you want to take advantage of the short pass as well.

[Packnut]

If our D can stop their running game, then it will aford us time to keep pounding the ball. Grossman's arm does'nt scare me. I'm positive Woodson can shut down The Bears #1 WR IF Sanders is smart enough to match them up.

[Terry]

Everytime I hear someone came across the neutral zone I think of the Romulans......

That gave me the best laugh I've had all week!

[Badgepack]

You guys are crazy, 5 pages for a Bears pre-season game. True die-hards :D

[Dabaddestbear]

also this game Bears plan 4 the game. Last week Packers nor the bears didnt plan for there games
Well the packers coach said he did plan on winning that one. The Bears staff said they did not plan for SF and that they didnt hide or disguise none of their coverages not wanting to reveal musch since they do play them in the regular season. In contrast the 49ers QB said they came in with a good gameplan.

2nd, 3rd weeks are the most telling in preseason. Just like the game with ATL 2nite means much more than the week one.

[Rastak]

also this game Bears plan 4 the game. Last week Packers nor the bears didnt plan for there games
Well the packers coach said he did plan on winning that one. The Bears staff said they did not plan for SF and that they didnt hide or disguise none of their coverages not wanting to reveal musch since they do play them in the regular season. In contrast the 49ers QB said they came in with a good gameplan.

2nd, 3rd weeks are the most telling in preseason. Just like the game with ATL 2nite means much more than the week one.


I'd have to agree with that last comment baddest. Can't watch the Pack because my Vikes are playin but I'll have to watch the game day thread here.

[Dabaddestbear]

Bottom line, Bears look much better than their putrid performance last week. Defense looks tough and I hate the fact they drafted Hester......

'cause he's good or what? I haven't atched any of this game yet, just turned it on.


No, I'm just scared....LOL.....
Hester may be the best punt returner in the NFC this year. The Kid is just too explosive and fast when he gets the ball.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Is that a fact...... :roll:

[Dabaddestbear]

Just did some checking - guess who SD gained more yards against in the first half - the Bears vs. the Packers.

Its the Bears.

Last week - the Chargers gained 174 yards against the Packers in the first half.

This week - the Chargers gained 176 yards against the Bears in the first half.

The Chargers had 98 yards rushing this week against the Bears in the first half - while the Packers kept the Chargers to only 82 yards rushing the entire game.

Just some positives. The Packer had no takeaways - while the Bears had one for a touchdown.

However, it is interesting.

95% of those yards came on one busted run play in which turner became barry sanders in the backfield and then transformed instantly into Bettis down the sideline. Other than that the Bears was stopping them for no gain and losses.

[Rastak]

Is that a fact...... :roll:

He did say "may be". I think Hester will be pretty good.

[Dabaddestbear]

After watching the this game. I'm not too down on your OL as I was before. Pack ran better then Chi againt SD D
The Bears only had their 3rd,4th, and 5th string RB's playing for the first two preseasons. With Jones and Benson in there the running game is much different. In comparison the Packers had their possible starters playing in Gado, Davenport.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

After watching the this game. I'm not too down on your OL as I was before. Pack ran better then Chi againt SD D
The Bears only had their 3rd,4th, and 5th string RB's playing for the first two preseasons. With Jones and Benson in there the running game is much different. In comparison the Packers had their possible starters playing in Gado, Davenport.

No, Green is going to be our starter with out a doubt.

[Packnut]

This is freakin hilarious. After all the times Brett has bitc$ slapped the bears, we now have the 1 picture of Urlacher knowing down Favre. Gee, should we dig up all the photos from the Favre era with him throwing TD after TD against the Bears? May-be I can find a photo of the 5 TD game on a sprained ankle against the bears.

Try as hard as you like my friend, you and all your other Bear brethern can't use 1 year to wipe out the past 14!

[Dabaddestbear]

After watching the this game. I'm not too down on your OL as I was before. Pack ran better then Chi againt SD D
The Bears only had their 3rd,4th, and 5th string RB's playing for the first two preseasons. With Jones and Benson in there the running game is much different. In comparison the Packers had their possible starters playing in Gado, Davenport.

No, Green is going to be our starter with out a doubt.
Do you think he will be better than Gado?

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Gato can't even beat out Davenport, there is no way he beats out Green. Green is prefect for the ZBS, and will pick it up as fast as anyone. Gato has been trying to pick it up for the last 16 weeks.

[Terry]

Can't watch the Pack because my Vikes are playin but I'll have to watch the game day thread here.

You're from Minnesota?

And you posted that really funny line (the Romulans)?

So you really DO have some comedy up there besides 'Fargo'?

[Rastak]

Can't watch the Pack because my Vikes are playin but I'll have to watch the game day thread here.

You're from Minnesota?

And you posted that really funny line (the Romulans)?

So you really DO have some comedy up there besides 'Fargo'?

Yea, I'm the resident Viking fan and live in Minnesota.

[Dabaddestbear]

This is freakin hilarious. After all the times Brett has bitc$ slapped the bears, we now have the 1 picture of Urlacher knowing down Favre. Gee, should we dig up all the photos from the Favre era with him throwing TD after TD against the Bears? May-be I can find a photo of the 5 TD game on a sprained ankle against the bears.

Try as hard as you like my friend, you and all your other Bear brethern can't use 1 year to wipe out the past 14!
Did I ever mention anything about last year? :roll:
Go ahead, dig em up. It's still nowhere as sweet as the most recent moments. And the last two years the Bears have played the Packers they are 3-1. So I dont mind you reaching back to find something to make you smile about a Packers vs Bears game. You will eventually fall into the category of the Bear fans that some Pack fans mock that always bring up da 85 Bears.
:wink:

[Dabaddestbear]

Gato can't even beat out Davenport, there is no way he beats out Green. Green is prefect for the ZBS, and will pick it up as fast as anyone. Gato has been trying to pick it up for the last 16 weeks.
You cant be a real Packers fan.
GATO? is that short for gator ? If so then you are excused only if you are a die hard Florida Seminols fan that just use Gator to refer to anything they think sucks. If not then....ahh forget it, your a Packer fan I shouldnt expect much. :lol:

[4and12to12and4]

I am just posting so that "badsmellbears" and his picture of Favre on the ground isn't the last thing on this thread. I don't mind this picture, it just indicates that he realizes the greatness of Brett, and uses this picture to convince himself that Brett is actually human. I understand if a Bears fan has to remind himself of that on a daily basis.

But, since I am here, I noticed that Rastak was trying to constantly spin this game towards the Bears side, and didn't want to admit that, other than the score, (and yes, I know that is what counts in the REAL season), the Bears didn't do anything on offense with Grosswoman out there. I don't begrudge you being a Vikings fan, but what's with the love for the Bears? Do you like them more than the Packers? Well, after nearly a decade and a half of domination from the Packers I guess I would be rooting for the team that has generally stunk in that same stretch. I forgive you. :mrgreen:

[Packnut]

This is freakin hilarious. After all the times Brett has bitc$ slapped the bears, we now have the 1 picture of Urlacher knowing down Favre. Gee, should we dig up all the photos from the Favre era with him throwing TD after TD against the Bears? May-be I can find a photo of the 5 TD game on a sprained ankle against the bears.

Try as hard as you like my friend, you and all your other Bear brethern can't use 1 year to wipe out the past 14!
Did I ever mention anything about last year? :roll:
Go ahead, dig em up. It's still nowhere as sweet as the most recent moments. And the last two years the Bears have played the Packers they are 3-1. So I dont mind you reaching back to find something to make you smile about a Packers vs Bears game. You will eventually fall into the category of the Bear fans that some Pack fans mock that always bring up da 85 Bears.
:wink:


How can you compare 1 year (1985) to all the years Brett has whupped up on your team? I never was any good at math, but I'm still sure 14 is more than 1. No matter how bad the Pack is this year, you've got a long way to go before you earn your bragging rights. The fact is #4 made YOUR team the laughing stock of the NFL for a good many years. I can understand that you would want to forget that but there are BILLIONS of Packer fans around to remind you! :lol:

[Rastak]

I am just posting so that "badsmellbears" and his picture of Favre on the ground isn't the last thing on this thread. I don't mind this picture, it just indicates that he realizes the greatness of Brett, and uses this picture to convince himself that Brett is actually human. I understand if a Bears fan has to remind himself of that on a daily basis.

But, since I am here, I noticed that Rastak was trying to constantly spin this game towards the Bears side, and didn't want to admit that, other than the score, (and yes, I know that is what counts in the REAL season), the Bears didn't do anything on offense with Grosswoman out there. I don't begrudge you being a Vikings fan, but what's with the love for the Bears? Do you like them more than the Packers? Well, after nearly a decade and a half of domination from the Packers I guess I would be rooting for the team that has generally stunk in that same stretch. I forgive you. :mrgreen:

Hey, I don't love the Bears but I thought they played a pretty good game. It's nothing more than that...not a great game but definate improvement over the week before when they really sucked. I'm tivoing the Lions and Packers games on NFL network this weekend and will watch those games also. Truth be told, I wasn't 100% watching the game (playing civilization 4 at the same time) so I could be off base here. Whenever I looked over they were doing some good things.

[Packnut]

I am just posting so that "badsmellbears" and his picture of Favre on the ground isn't the last thing on this thread. I don't mind this picture, it just indicates that he realizes the greatness of Brett, and uses this picture to convince himself that Brett is actually human. I understand if a Bears fan has to remind himself of that on a daily basis.

But, since I am here, I noticed that Rastak was trying to constantly spin this game towards the Bears side, and didn't want to admit that, other than the score, (and yes, I know that is what counts in the REAL season), the Bears didn't do anything on offense with Grosswoman out there. I don't begrudge you being a Vikings fan, but what's with the love for the Bears? Do you like them more than the Packers? Well, after nearly a decade and a half of domination from the Packers I guess I would be rooting for the team that has generally stunk in that same stretch. I forgive you. :mrgreen:

Hey, I don't love the Bears but I thought they played a pretty good game. It's nothing more than that...not a great game but definate improvement over the week before when they really sucked. I'm tivoing the Lions and Packers games on NFL network this weekend and will watch those games also. Truth be told, I wasn't 100% watching the game (playing civilization 4 at the same time) so I could be off base here. Whenever I looked over they were doing some good things.

Without Jones and MM playing, it is'nt fair to gauge them. The only sure thing coming out of that game is that Griese still look's better than Grossman.

[4and12to12and4]

Well, their defense played pretty well, but if it wasn't for Urlachers touchdown, and Davis return, the first half would've looked just as ugly for them as the Packers ... however, those two plays DID happen. So...

[MadtownPacker]

Didnt catch this game but reading this thread was good enough. Thanks to those who followed the game and posted.

Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer. :mrgreen:

BTW - Rastak is what I like to call "Troll-lite". No need to explain Im sure.

Dabaddestbear - You are not a Packerbacker or certified troll like Rastak so please choose 1 pic for your sig. Dont want to get any complaints of you defacing our board. :twisted:

[woodbuck27]

After watching the this game. I'm not too down on your OL as I was before. Pack ran better then Chi againt SD D
The Bears only had their 3rd,4th, and 5th string RB's playing for the first two preseasons. With Jones and Benson in there the running game is much different. In comparison the Packers had their possible starters playing in Gado, Davenport.

No, Green is going to be our starter with out a doubt.
Do you think he will be better than Gado?

Ahman Green better than Samkon Gado ?

Ahhhhh let me think. . .

YES. :mrgreen: