Dez Behaving Badly

[Joemailman]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a9c736/article/dez-bryant-cowboys-wr-allegedly-assaulted-mother?module=HP11_headline_stack

Dez Bryant accused of domestic violence...against his mother.

He's innocent until proven guilty, but he sure has a hard time staying out of trouble during the offseason.

[MadtownPacker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_a4BU09GrU

[Brando19]

Maybe his mother wouldn't lend him $10. Didn't his mother get arrested for prostitution a while back?

[Fritz]

Mamas, don't let your Cowboys grow up to be babies.

[pbmax]

Pretty sure I defended this guy at one point early in his career. Time to sell that stock.

[MadScientist]

After hearing so many stories of NFL players buying houses for their mother, this makes for a refreshing change.

[Brandon494]

I thought this guy would be a star WR in the NFL but he has a lot of growing up before that ever happens.

[George Cumby]

After hearing so many stories of NFL players buying houses for their mother, this makes for a refreshing change.

Nice. :grin:

[Guiness]

Just read that his mother is 37? He's 24, so she was 13 or 14 when she had him?

[swede]

Just read that his mother is 37? He's 24, so she was 13 or 14 when she had him?

She's like a kid out there.

[KYPack]

She's like a kid out there.

And she just loves to play the game.

[Freak Out]

So there are roughly 1600-1700 players in the NFL? And how many were arrested in 2012 so far? 30 or so? Bad numbers....even with the help the NFL and NFLPA offers.

[gbgary]

I thought this guy would be a star WR in the NFL but he has a lot of growing up before that ever happens.

he's got to get better ON the field too. so far he's actually been a mini bust considering people's expectations. staying fit has been a problem for him too.

[Deputy Nutz]

If Dez Bryant's mother was my mom, I would try and choke that bitch out as well. Crackhead that made his life pretty difficult growing up.

[Joemailman]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000055015/article/dez-bryant-rules-in-effect-for-dallas-cowboys?module=HP11_headline_stack

Troubled but talented wide receiver Dez Bryant of the Dallas Cowboys has agreed to abide by a set of special rules imposed by the team, ESPNDallas.com reported Sunday.

Citing sources, the report said the rules went into effect on Aug. 23 and include no alcohol, no strip clubs, only nightclubs that are approved by the Cowboys and a midnight curfew.


Additionally, Bryant will have a rotating three-person team (picked by Bryant's adviser, David Wells) of drivers and security guards, who will take him to practices, games and other team events.

Maybe time for Jerry Jones to hire somebody to make personnel decisions?

[pbmax]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000055015/article/dez-bryant-rules-in-effect-for-dallas-cowboys?module=HP11_headline_stack

Troubled but talented wide receiver Dez Bryant of the Dallas Cowboys has agreed to abide by a set of special rules imposed by the team, ESPNDallas.com reported Sunday.

Citing sources, the report said the rules went into effect on Aug. 23 and include no alcohol, no strip clubs, only nightclubs that are approved by the Cowboys and a midnight curfew.


Additionally, Bryant will have a rotating three-person team (picked by Bryant's adviser, David Wells) of drivers and security guards, who will take him to practices, games and other team events.

Maybe time for Jerry Jones to hire somebody to make personnel decisions?

I wonder if Stephen Jones could get his father to submit proposals to a three person panel before making rosters decisions? Or perhaps stop drinking at work.

[Patler]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000055015/article/dez-bryant-rules-in-effect-for-dallas-cowboys?module=HP11_headline_stack

Additionally, Bryant will have a rotating three-person team (picked by Bryant's adviser, David Wells) of drivers and security guards, who will take him to practices, games and other team events.


Also know as an au pair, nanny or babysitter.

Isn't it a bit embarrassing that they made this public information? Why not just do it without fanfare or announcement?

[MJZiggy]

Seems to me that they're trying to prove to someone or other that they care about this kind of stuff and are going to do their part in keeping him in check. Not saying its going to work, but if it doesn't then they've publicly abdicated any responsibility for his behavior.

[MadtownPacker]

Agree with MJ. They have already spent mega moola on this asshole so why not put him on blast and announce it to the world.

[pbmax]

Jerrah might have trouble with the CBA and the NFLPA re: precedent it would set

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/27/dez-bryant-could-violate-cba-in-two-ways/

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/27/dez-bryant-is-paying-for-his-security-detail/

[Freak Out]

What a joke...both Dez and the Cowboys.

[Patler]

Jerrah might have trouble with the CBA and the NFLPA re: precedent it would set

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/27/dez-bryant-could-violate-cba-in-two-ways/

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/27/dez-bryant-is-paying-for-his-security-detail/

Florio should think for just a second or two before he writes, then he wouldn't have to correct himself as he did with these stories. It seemed fairly clear from the first press releases that Bryant would be paying for the security details, since his agent was said to be doing the hiring.

Teams are being held responsible for the conduct of their players. While the NFLPA might not like a detail or two of the arrangement, it is the team doing its job to help the players abide by league rules.

[pbmax]

Florio should think for just a second or two before he writes, then he wouldn't have to correct himself as he did with these stories. It seemed fairly clear from the first press releases that Bryant would be paying for the security details, since his agent was said to be doing the hiring.

Teams are being held responsible for the conduct of their players. While the NFLPA might not like a detail or two of the arrangement, it is the team doing its job to help the players abide by league rules.

A lot depends on the details, but if it encompasses action and leverage not envisioned by the CBA, the NFLPA has to intervene. Otherwise, new League-wide rules and contract provisions can result from the actions and needs of one player.

[Patler]

A lot depends on the details, but if it encompasses action and leverage not envisioned by the CBA, the NFLPA has to intervene. Otherwise, new League-wide rules and contract provisions can result from the actions and needs of one player.

It's team/player rules, not in his contract, is it?

[pbmax]

It's team/player rules, not in his contract, is it?

I have not seen all the rules, so I cannot say if there is a specific financial component. But if his employment is governed by those rules, then there is a de facto financial penalty. But in either event, the CBA governs more than player contracts, it sets the rules for player conduct discipline, on field and off, limits of penalties and suspensions, specifies which conduct falls under which set of rules (eg. drug policy versus personal conduct) and roles and appeals. If the Cowboys rules are outside that agreement, then the NFLPA is going to have to deal with it. Otherwise its becomes an addendum to the CBA with no negotiating, except with the one player.

[Patler]

I have not seen all the rules, so I cannot say if there is a specific financial component. But if his employment is governed by those rules, then there is a de facto financial penalty. But in either event, the CBA governs more than player contracts, it sets the rules for player conduct discipline, on field and off, limits of penalties and suspensions, specifies which conduct falls under which set of rules (eg. drug policy versus personal conduct) and roles and appeals. If the Cowboys rules are outside that agreement, then the NFLPA is going to have to deal with it. Otherwise its becomes an addendum to the CBA with no negotiating, except with the one player.

I think you are making it more complicated than it is. A player and team got together and agreed on some procedures to help the player keep his nose clean. The player is paying the expenses. I doubt that he is going to be cut if he goes into an unapproved strip club, or even be fined either, unless his actions otherwise would be subject to fines.

I think the Packers had some "special" rules for Koren Robinson, too, as I recall.

The NFLPA might make a little noise, but I doubt it will mean much.

[pbmax]

I think you are making it more complicated than it is. A player and team got together and agreed on some procedures to help the player keep his nose clean. The player is paying the expenses. I doubt that he is going to be cut if he goes into an unapproved strip club, or even be fined either, unless his actions otherwise would be subject to fines.

You could be right. But now that those guidelines have been made public by the Cowboys, the team has put itself on the hook to enforce new rules. Even if the normal steps available for a club to discipline its players (suspension under a certain number of games, fines, etc.) are all the Cowboys envision, I think the NFLPA is going to want to know what can trigger it. And see it in writing.

Otherwise, the Cowboys are just asking Dez to behave, and I don't believe Jones would put himself in that position again.

[Patler]

Which is just another reason why they should have kept this low key.

[pbmax]

Which is just another reason why they should have kept this low key.

Fully agree on that. Even more so now that Jerry Jones has been moved to deny that there are special rules for Dez. In a sincere way, I hope Jones and Snyder and probably Stephen Ross (sorry Joe Philbin) are in the League for a long time.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/jerry-jones-denies-that-cowboys-have-special-rules-for-dez/

And just to add to the confusion, Jason Garrett describes a program that would not seem to be a problem for anyone.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/28/dez-bryants-mentor-says-jerry-jones-endorsed-new-rules/

If Garrett version can be believed, there might not be much to this. But I am still curious if these are simply suggestions he has accepted, or there is an enforcement mechanism.

[gbgary]

cowboy fuck-up dez bryant out past midnight with former maverick fuck-up delonte west at dallas strip club.


http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/8586222/dez-bryant-dallas-cowboys-gets-approval-past-midnight

[Fritz]

cowboy fuck-up dez bryant out past midnight with former maverick fuck-up delonte west at dallas strip club.


http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/8586222/dez-bryant-dallas-cowboys-gets-approval-past-midnight

I'll take Bryan Bulaga, thanks.

[pbmax]

cowboy fuck-up dez bryant out past midnight with former maverick fuck-up delonte west at dallas strip club.


http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/8586222/dez-bryant-dallas-cowboys-gets-approval-past-midnight

He had permission from his guardians to be out late: https://twitter.com/kareemcopeland/status/264756347550191616

Kareem Copeland ‏@kareemcopeland
Per @calvinwatkins, Dez Bryant received permission to stay out past midnight last night to celebrate his birthday at a night club.

[Joemailman]

Did his SUV turn into a pumpkin?

[MJZiggy]

How much of a fuckup do you need to be to need permission to celebrate your birthday...?

[Fritz]

"I doubt that he is going to be cut if he goes into an unapproved strip club."

- Patler

Does this mean there are "approved" and "unapproved" strip clubs? Who gets to decide which ones are which? I would like to be employed as the guy who has to do this research for Jerruh Jones. Give me some funding for my research, and I will report back in great detail and make recommendations as to which clubs would be approved and which would be off limits to Dez.

Sign me up!

[pbmax]

"I doubt that he is going to be cut if he goes into an unapproved strip club."

- Patler

Does this mean there are "approved" and "unapproved" strip clubs? Who gets to decide which ones are which? I would like to be employed as the guy who has to do this research for Jerruh Jones. Give me some funding for my research, and I will report back in great detail and make recommendations as to which clubs would be approved and which would be off limits to Dez.

Sign me up!

You can start by cleaning his glasses.