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LegandofthePack15
08-13-2012, 09:58 AM
What current NFL players would you pick to be on your team? Name 11 starters on offense, 11 on defense and 3 specialists.

Here's mine:

QB: Tom Brady - Plays well in ALL conditions. Rodgers is elite but unlike Favre in his prime, Rodgers is below average when playing outdoor in the cold.

RB: Adrian Peterson - The complete back. Size, speed, power. Everything.

WRs: Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Greg Jennings - Unstoppable!

TE: Jermichael Finley - Finley can change how defensive coordinators prepare on presence alone.

OLs: Joe Thomas (T), Logan Mankins (G), Maurkice Pouncey (C), Josh Sitton (G), Jake Long (T) - a protection unit composed of these guys would make the U.S. Secret Service look incompetent.

DEs/OLBs: Clay Matthews, Jarad Allen - both act like prima donnas but they're qb killers.

DTs: Cullen Jenkins, Vince Wilfork - And Thompson let Jenkins go for Mike Neal.

ILBs: Patrick Willis, Brian Urlacher - Urlacher is the prototypical ILB; Willis is a fucking beast.

CBs: Darrell Revis, Nnamdi Asomugha, Charles Woodson - Revis Island, the King of Africa, and Mr. Everything.

Ss: Roman Harper, Troy Polamalu - These guys are playa.

K: Sebastian Janikowski - can be inconsistent at times but when he's on, he's on.

P: Andy Lee - punt like a bee.

KR/PR: Devin Hester - as a specialist, this guy sure as fuck can fly.

The Shadow
08-13-2012, 11:41 AM
What current NFL players would you pick to be on your team? Name 11 starters on offense, 11 on defense and 3 specialists.

Here's mine:

QB: Tom Brady - Plays well in ALL conditions. Rodgers is elite but unlike Favre in his prime, Rodgers is below average when playing outdoor in the cold.

RB: Adrian Peterson - The complete back. Size, speed, power. Everything.

WRs: Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Greg Jennings - Unstoppable!

TE: Jermichael Finley - Finley can change how defensive coordinators prepare on presence alone.

OLs: Joe Thomas (T), Logan Mankins (G), Maurkice Pouncey (C), Josh Sitton (G), Jake Long (T) - a protection unit composed of these guys would make the U.S. Secret Service look incompetent.

DEs/OLBs: Clay Matthews, Jarad Allen - both act like prima donnas but they're qb killers.

DTs: Cullen Jenkins, Vince Wilfork - And Thompson let Jenkins go for Mike Neal.

ILBs: Patrick Willis, Brian Urlacher - Urlacher is the prototypical ILB; Willis is a fucking beast.

CBs: Darrell Revis, Nnamdi Asomugha, Charles Woodson - Revis Island, the King of Africa, and Mr. Everything.

Ss: Roman Harper, Troy Polamalu - These guys are playa.

K: Sebastian Janikowski - can be inconsistent at times but when he's on, he's on.

P: Andy Lee - punt like a bee.

KR/PR: Devin Hester - as a specialist, this guy sure as fuck can fly.
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Cullen JENKINS????????????????

pbmax
08-13-2012, 11:44 AM
Roman Harper couldn't stop Marshawn Lynch and his one upside is supposed to be toughness.

smuggler
08-13-2012, 12:36 PM
QB: Aaron Rodgers- More evasive than the other two elite QBs, and with a better arm. He's the best in the face of pressure, with the posisble exception of Eli or Cutler. Highest rated passer of all time.

RB: LeSean McCoy- Leaves a little to be desired as a power runner, but is the most evasive back in the league and probably the best receiving back in the league. It's a passing game nowadays.

WR: Calvin Johnson- The only slight nitpick in his game is that he's not the best after the catch, but typically he's in the endzone anyway.
WR: Jordy Nelson- Probably the best deep-threat in the game today. He would be even more dangerous if you put him across from Megatron.
WR: Victor Cruz- A dynamo after the catch. Get separation before the catch and eats up yards.
TE: Rob Gronkowski- A good/great blocker and a laugh-inducing mismatch as a receiver.

LT: Joe Thomas- I take Thomas over Jake Long because of injury history. They are very close, by my measure.
LG: Carl Nicks- Strictly better than former teammate Jahri Evans, who plays the right side. The only other guard who could have a case here is Mankins, who is slightly overrated, has an injury history, a holdout history, and is nearing 30.
C: Nick Mangold- Mangold is the best in the business. He's had a slight injury history, but he's dominant. Maurkice Pouncey is a plus center, and would start on more than half the teams in the league at center. A workman; solid; but he's not dominant and he's certainly not elite.
RG: Josh Sitton- Sheer dominance. He was injured last year, but toughed it out and was still quite effective. You could certainly make a case for Evans, but I feel Sitton is more flexible. Plus he's three years younger.
RT: Brian Bulaga- Nice in pass protection and amazing in run blocking, the dude is the right combination of youth, talent, and production.

DE: J.J. Watt- Young and explosive, Watt has already had an injury this season, which might cause some to question this choice, but he's going to be a special player.
DT: Haloti Ngata- He's 28 now, so he's reaching the age when
DE: Justin Smith- In other positions, I have favored youth. I should probably here, too, but Smith is just too much better than every other DE not to choose.

OLB: Clay Matthews- Tamba Hali seemed better in 2011, but Matthews is younger and also played with a crappier line in 2011.
ILB: Patrick Willis- Mentioning Urlacher in the same breath is an insult to Patrick Willis. (And that's obviously saying something.)
ILB: Jon Beason- He suffered a major injury last year. He's still too awesome not to pick. However, my "dream" might change if he's not the same player as he was pre-Achilles.
OLB: Brian Orakpo- A more stout alternative to Matthews, and just as young and talented.

CB: Darrell Revis- With the rest of the defense being so good, it might be tempting to pick a CB with better ball skills. However, the vice that Revis puts on WRs would really do a lot to devastate an opposing offense and frankly, he's just too good to pass up.
S: Eric Berry- With Nick Collins done and Ed Reed continuing in his decline, the door is open for Berry to become the best overall safety in the league. He missed all of last season with an unfortunate injury, but he's so young he should have no trouble returning to 2010 form.
S: George Wilson- He just turned 30, which is the only downside with him. He's been the league's best strong safety for about three seasons, and had an amazing 2011. I agree about Roman Harper... That even mention of his name should be taboo in this thread.
CB: Brandon Flowers- A good mix of a smooth athlete, a good technician, and nice ball skills. Plus, he's young and stands to improve.

K: David Akers- The Eagles are morons for cutting the string on Akers too soon.
P: Shane Lechler- Still the undisputed best kicking specialist in the game, and has been for the better part of a decade.

KR/PR: Patrick Peterson- Hester is 30, and Peterson has yet to enter his prime.

LegandofthePack15
08-14-2012, 09:28 AM
QB: Aaron Rodgers- More evasive than the other two elite QBs, and with a better arm. He's the best in the face of pressure, with the posisble exception of Eli or Cutler. Highest rated passer of all time.

RB: LeSean McCoy- Leaves a little to be desired as a power runner, but is the most evasive back in the league and probably the best receiving back in the league. It's a passing game nowadays.

WR: Calvin Johnson- The only slight nitpick in his game is that he's not the best after the catch, but typically he's in the endzone anyway.
WR: Jordy Nelson- Probably the best deep-threat in the game today. He would be even more dangerous if you put him across from Megatron.
WR: Victor Cruz- A dynamo after the catch. Get separation before the catch and eats up yards.
TE: Rob Gronkowski- A good/great blocker and a laugh-inducing mismatch as a receiver.

LT: Joe Thomas- I take Thomas over Jake Long because of injury history. They are very close, by my measure.
LG: Carl Nicks- Strictly better than former teammate Jahri Evans, who plays the right side. The only other guard who could have a case here is Mankins, who is slightly overrated, has an injury history, a holdout history, and is nearing 30.
C: Nick Mangold- Mangold is the best in the business. He's had a slight injury history, but he's dominant. Maurkice Pouncey is a plus center, and would start on more than half the teams in the league at center. A workman; solid; but he's not dominant and he's certainly not elite.
RG: Josh Sitton- Sheer dominance. He was injured last year, but toughed it out and was still quite effective. You could certainly make a case for Evans, but I feel Sitton is more flexible. Plus he's three years younger.
RT: Brian Bulaga- Nice in pass protection and amazing in run blocking, the dude is the right combination of youth, talent, and production.

DE: J.J. Watt- Young and explosive, Watt has already had an injury this season, which might cause some to question this choice, but he's going to be a special player.
DT: Haloti Ngata- He's 28 now, so he's reaching the age when
DE: Justin Smith- In other positions, I have favored youth. I should probably here, too, but Smith is just too much better than every other DE not to choose.

OLB: Clay Matthews- Tamba Hali seemed better in 2011, but Matthews is younger and also played with a crappier line in 2011.
ILB: Patrick Willis- Mentioning Urlacher in the same breath is an insult to Patrick Willis. (And that's obviously saying something.)
ILB: Jon Beason- He suffered a major injury last year. He's still too awesome not to pick. However, my "dream" might change if he's not the same player as he was pre-Achilles.
OLB: Brian Orakpo- A more stout alternative to Matthews, and just as young and talented.

CB: Darrell Revis- With the rest of the defense being so good, it might be tempting to pick a CB with better ball skills. However, the vice that Revis puts on WRs would really do a lot to devastate an opposing offense and frankly, he's just too good to pass up.
S: Eric Berry- With Nick Collins done and Ed Reed continuing in his decline, the door is open for Berry to become the best overall safety in the league. He missed all of last season with an unfortunate injury, but he's so young he should have no trouble returning to 2010 form.
S: George Wilson- He just turned 30, which is the only downside with him. He's been the league's best strong safety for about three seasons, and had an amazing 2011. I agree about Roman Harper... That even mention of his name should be taboo in this thread.
CB: Brandon Flowers- A good mix of a smooth athlete, a good technician, and nice ball skills. Plus, he's young and stands to improve.

K: David Akers- The Eagles are morons for cutting the string on Akers too soon.
P: Shane Lechler- Still the undisputed best kicking specialist in the game, and has been for the better part of a decade.

KR/PR: Patrick Peterson- Hester is 30, and Peterson has yet to enter his prime.

Nice post, though I disagree some of your picks/comments.

Gotta put your Packer bias aside and admit Urlacher that is one of the greatest lb in NFL history. The guy can blitz, he can cover, and he's solid against the run. Urlacher is a first ballot NFL Hall of Famer.

Cruz seems like an overachiever whom everyone underestimates. Will be interesting to see how he performs now that D-coordinators know who he is. I can name 20 other wrs that are better than Cruz.

smuggler
08-14-2012, 09:36 AM
Urlacher 5 years ago, I'd take right along with Willis. Urlacher now, he's not in the discussion IMO. And, no, he's not a first ballot HoF, but yes he will get in. Ray Lewis was obviously better, and there's a good case to make for Derrick Brooks being better - and both have a ring.

Your argument against Cruz is reasonable, and I feel the same would apply to Jordy.

LegandofthePack15
08-14-2012, 09:51 AM
Urlacher 5 years ago, I'd take right along with Willis. Urlacher now, he's not in the discussion IMO. And, no, he's not a first ballot HoF, but yes he will get in. Ray Lewis was obviously better, and there's a good case to make for Derrick Brooks being better - and both have a ring.

Your argument against Cruz is reasonable, and I feel the same would apply to Jordy.

The way Urlacher revolutionize the Cover-2 middle lb position, to me that's good enough for first ballot HOF. The guy was and is still the complete MLB.

Zool
08-14-2012, 10:26 AM
The way Urlacher revolutionize the Cover-2 middle lb position, to me that's good enough for first ballot HOF. The guy was and is still the complete MLB.

Is the criteria all time players or this year?

Upnorth
08-14-2012, 12:23 PM
QB- Arod
RB-MJD (only as he is a tougher runner than McCoy and this team is an airforce)
WR1 - Calvin Jophnson
WR2 - Wallace
WR3 - Welker
TE - Gronk
LT - Thomas
LG - Carl Nicks
C - Mangold
RG - Sitton
RT - Buluga

DE - Freeney, Allen
DT - Ngata, Suh
OLB - Mathews, Ware
ILB - Willis, Mayo
CB - Revis, Alphabet (asmug...)
S- Jenkins, Rolle

At least tahts my stab at it.

smuggler
08-14-2012, 12:55 PM
Mayo sucks, Bishop is better than him and there are a handful of guys probably better than Bishop

HarveyWallbangers
08-14-2012, 01:07 PM
The team I would have for one year:

QB Aaron Rodgers
RB Ray Rice (Adrian Peterson, when healthy)
WR Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Greg Jennings (I'd pick Andre Johnson as the third best WR in the league, but this team needs a slot guy)
TE Rob Gronkowski
OL Joe Thomas, Carl Nicks, Nick Mangold, Josh Sitton, David Stewart

DL Julius Peppers, Haloti Ngata, Geno Atkins, Jason Pierre-Paul
LB Clay Matthews, Patrick Willis, DeMarcus Ware
CB Darrelle Revis, Jonathan Joseph
S Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu

K Sebastian Janikowski
P Shane Lechler
RET Randall Cobb

smuggler
08-14-2012, 02:24 PM
I think you meant to put Fitzgerald in after Megatron, by your wording.

DeMarcus Ware would play DE in a 4-3. He hardly plays standing up at all in DAL. He's the "elephant" in their scheme, but he mostly puts his hand down.

Both Reed and Polamalu are over the hill and there are better guys.

PaCkFan_n_MD
08-14-2012, 02:58 PM
QB: Tom Brady (Dude has done it all, I would take Rodgers next)
RB: LeSean McCoy (Peterson if he returns to his old self)
WR: Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald
TE: Rob Gronkowski
OT: Joe Thomas, Jake Long
OG: Carl Nicks, Jahri Evans
OC: Nick Mangold

34 defense
DE: Justin Smith, N Suh
NT: Halot Ngata
OLB: Clay Matthews, DeMarcus Ware
ILB: Patrick Willis, Jon Beason
CB: Darrelle Revis, Brandon Flowers
FS: Ed Reed (Would have taken Nick Collins)
SS: Troy Polamalu

K Sebastian Janikowski
P: Andy Lee
RET: Devin Hester (Was a toss up with DeSean Jackson)

Brandon494
08-14-2012, 03:01 PM
QB: Tom Brady (Dude has done it all, I would take Rodgers next)
RB: LeSean McCoy (Peterson if he returns to his old self)
WR: Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald
TE: Rob Gronkowski
OT: Joe Thomas, Jake Long
OG: Carl Nicks, Jahri Evans
OC: Nick Mangold

34 defense
DE: Justin Smith, N Suh
NT: Halot Ngata
OLB: Clay Matthews, DeMarcus Ware
ILB: Patrick Willis, Jon Beason
CB: Darrelle Revis, Brandon Flowers
FS: Ed Reed (Would have taken Nick Collins)
SS: Troy Polamalu

K Sebastian Janikowski
P: Andy Lee
RET: Devin Hester (Was a toss up with DeSean Jackson)

Nice, only thing I would change is Rodgers over Brady. :-P

HarveyWallbangers
08-14-2012, 03:19 PM
I think you meant to put Fitzgerald in after Megatron, by your wording.

DeMarcus Ware would play DE in a 4-3. He hardly plays standing up at all in DAL. He's the "elephant" in their scheme, but he mostly puts his hand down.

Both Reed and Polamalu are over the hill and there are better guys.

Yes, I meant Fitz.

Valid point on Ware. I was debating in my head whether I'd want to go 4-3 or 3-4. Depending on the scheme you are eliminating a nice group of players. However, if I knew I could have 4 good DL (Dream Team), I'd probably lean towards a 4-3, so mark me down for Von Miller instead of Ware.

Name these safeties? I thought the same thing, but when I start thinking about safeties to replace these guys, I still lean towards the two old guys (for one more year anyways). Who are these guys? Earl Thomas is rising. I've always liked Adrian Wilson. Eric Weddle and George Wilson had good statistical years, but I can't put those guys above Reed and Polamalu.

PaCkFan_n_MD
08-14-2012, 03:27 PM
Nice, only thing I would change is Rodgers over Brady. :-P

:) Can't be mad at that. I was very close to putting Rodgers, but Brady's leadership, experience, and resume give him a slight edge.

smuggler
08-14-2012, 03:44 PM
Ware would still make an awesome 4-3 DE. In fact, he'd probably be better in a 4-3 scheme. I'd say he's better than Peppers at this point.

Joemailman
08-14-2012, 05:08 PM
Nice, only thing I would change is Rodgers over Brady. :-P

You forget about Hawk?

Gunakor
08-15-2012, 01:15 AM
Offense:

QB - Aaron Rodgers
RB - Maurice Jones-Drew
WR's - Megatron, Fitz, Andre Johnson
TE - Jimmy Graham
OT's - Joe Thomas, Jake Long
OG's - Logan Mankins, Jahri Evans
C - Maurkice Pouncey


Defense:

DE's - Jared Allen, Julius Peppers
DT's - Haloti Ngata, Vince Wilfork
OLB's - DeMarcus Ware, Lance Briggs
MLB - Patrick Willis
CB's - Darrell Revis, Nnamdi Asomugha
S's - Ed Reed, Adrian Wilson

smuggler
08-15-2012, 08:53 AM
C - Maurkice Pouncey

Seriously dude? Did you even watch him play last year? Within his division there are two centers (Birk, Mack) who both played significantly better in 2011, and then there's Kyle Cook who played slightly better.

Upnorth
08-15-2012, 09:43 AM
Upon further review, I would like to change out Wallace from my roster for Andre Johnson. I forgot about his existance for a bit there.

Cheesehead Craig
08-15-2012, 12:18 PM
Upon further review, I would like to change out Wallace from my roster for Andre Johnson. I forgot about his existance for a bit there.

Andre Johnson >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taco Wallace. Good call.

Gunakor
08-15-2012, 04:37 PM
Seriously dude? Did you even watch him play last year? Within his division there are two centers (Birk, Mack) who both played significantly better in 2011, and then there's Kyle Cook who played slightly better.

If he can stay healthy then yes, I want him on my team. He was phenomenal in 2010 before that ankle injury, and was dealing with hamstring issues for a large part of the season last year. I suppose that's good enough reason to knock him off my list, but he's outstanding when healthy.

smuggler
08-15-2012, 04:41 PM
It's pretty infuriating when a guy gets so much acclaim for being a top-20 player at his position and everyone wants them to be an All-Pro. His brother played better than him in 2011.