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Guiness
08-20-2012, 05:47 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/20/ndamukong-suh-says-his-stomp-was-not-intentional/


Ndamukong Suh says his stomp was not intentional
Posted by Michael David Smith on August 20, 2012, 5:23 PM EDT

Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh continues to insist that his Thanksgiving stomp of Packers offensive lineman Evan Dietrich-Smith has been misunderstood and overanalyzed.

A lengthy profile of Suh in GQ addresses the stomp from the viewpoint of both Suh and his immediate family, and they all seem to agree that Suh did nothing wrong and got a raw deal from the media in the aftermath of the incident.

“If you slow down and analyze anything, it’s going to look worse in my opinion. It was not intentional. If it was intentional, it could have been a lot worse,” Suh says. “If I wanted to go out there to hurt somebody, I could hurt somebody. I don’t want any part of that. . . . I mean, if I wanted to hurt you, I’d go for your quarterback. Because me stopping your play is going to frustrate you more than me physically hurting you. Because I’m just that much better than you. That’s how I look at it. It’s like killing somebody with kindness.”

Suh often looks like he’s playing to kill somebody with something other than kindness, but his mom thinks her son is a gentle boy who has been misunderstood.

“On the TV they’re saying my son is angry,” Suh’s mom says. “They’re building it up that he’s an angry man. What does this child have to be angry about? This child is blessed. He has nothing to be angry about. So I don’t know where they’re getting that.”

For Suh’s part, he says the stomping incident is something he doesn’t think about anymore, although he knows people will continue to talk about it.

“For me personally? It’s over,” he says. “That’s something that happened in the 2011 season. Will it follow me? I think it will follow me because of the outside world. It won’t follow me because of me.”

Suh is only 25 years old and still has plenty of time to change the perceptions about him. But he’s right that the stomp will follow him. Intentional or not, that’s the moment that has defined his career.

George Cumby
08-20-2012, 06:52 PM
And what's-his-face's head-butt of the soon to be Mrs. Ex-what's-his-face was just a misunderstanding. :-)

pbmax
08-21-2012, 08:31 AM
"... Would you ... please get ... your ARM! ... out.of.the.way ... of my foot ... trying to ... FIND ... THE GROUND!"

ThunderDan
08-21-2012, 08:46 AM
I just don't get this line by Suh. Just admit you did it and say you were sorry. Saying it was unintential and having it brought up again just makes you look like a jerk.

I would have responded something like this:

Unfortunately I lost my temper that day and did something I wish I hadn't. I was punished for my actions and won't do that again.

pbmax
08-21-2012, 09:04 AM
I just don't get this line by Suh. Just admit you did it and say you were sorry. Saying it was unintential and having it brought up again just makes you look like a jerk.

I would have responded something like this:

Unfortunately I lost my temper that day and did something I wish I hadn't. I was punished for my actions and won't do that again.

Tough to do for someone who doesn't wish to admit both a)playing angry has some poor consequences and b)he's been getting away with things like this for years.

He reacted the same way after his car crash last year.

Upnorth
08-21-2012, 10:01 AM
On the bright side he is one less great player we have to consistently have to face. If he never accepts responsibility he will start to have more suspensions. That is good for the Packers IMO.

Kiwon
08-21-2012, 10:38 AM
Momma's little boy is so misunderstood. Quit picking on him, world!

Momma, too, also likes her new car every year and she won't correct her baby even when he's been naughty.

Old School
08-21-2012, 12:41 PM
Momma Suh says,"Not my little boy, oh no." Parents like that slay me.

Pugger
08-21-2012, 01:04 PM
I just don't get this line by Suh. Just admit you did it and say you were sorry. Saying it was unintential and having it brought up again just makes you look like a jerk.

I would have responded something like this:

Unfortunately I lost my temper that day and did something I wish I hadn't. I was punished for my actions and won't do that again.

He can't be something he's not.

cheesner
08-21-2012, 02:15 PM
I just don't get this line by Suh. Just admit you did it and say you were sorry. Saying it was unintential and having it brought up again just makes you look like a jerk.

I would have responded something like this:

Unfortunately I lost my temper that day and did something I wish I hadn't. I was punished for my actions and won't do that again.
Personal responsibility is mostly a part of the past.

Amanai Toomer compared Goodell's tactics to that of the Gestapo.

When Amanai was told who and what the Gestapo were about he replied:

“Obviously I didn't fully understand the meaning of what I said. I do now. It was a stupid, inappropriate and offensive thing to say. I apologize for my choice of words, and I apologize to Commissioner Goodell for the offensive characterization.”

My appreciation for Amanai actually increased after that. Takes a big man to be able to admit he screwed up. Suh is only big physically. Emotionally and character wise, he is a small small child.

Smidgeon
08-21-2012, 02:30 PM
Personal responsibility is mostly a part of the past.

Amanai Toomer compared Goodell's tactics to that of the Gestapo.

When Amanai was told who and what the Gestapo were about he replied:

“Obviously I didn't fully understand the meaning of what I said. I do now. It was a stupid, inappropriate and offensive thing to say. I apologize for my choice of words, and I apologize to Commissioner Goodell for the offensive characterization.”

My appreciation for Amanai actually increased after that. Takes a big man to be able to admit he screwed up. Suh is only big physically. Emotionally and character wise, he is a small small child.

Sadly true.

pbmax
08-21-2012, 02:46 PM
Personal responsibility is mostly a part of the past.

In public figures and the public arena, I take your initial assertion to be true. But its not my experience that individuals I know or meet face to face have changed all that much.

I do share your appreciation that Toomer was at least willing to own up to his poor comparison.

Smidgeon
08-21-2012, 05:44 PM
In public figures and the public arena, I take your initial assertion to be true. But its not my experience that individuals I know or meet face to face have changed all that much.

Maybe it's a regional thing. I grew up in the Midwest and moved to California three and a half years ago. And in my experience, there's a stark contrast between what I was used to there and what I notice out here. Obviously, not everyone fits that bill, but it seems that a lot of people do.

sharpe1027
08-22-2012, 12:04 PM
If it was intentional, it could have been a lot worse,” Suh says. “If I wanted to go out there to hurt somebody, I could hurt somebody.

Perhaps the stomp was not a conscious effort to hurt someone, but he clearly intended to step on Smith.

By Suh's logic there should not be such a thing as attempted murder. After all, if they had really intended to kill someone, it could have been a lot worse. If they wanted to go out there and kill somebody, they could kill somebody.

Patler
08-22-2012, 01:32 PM
Perhaps the stomp was not a conscious effort to hurt someone, but he clearly intended to step on Smith.

By Suh's logic there should not be such a thing as attempted murder. After all, if they had really intended to kill someone, it could have been a lot worse. If they wanted to go out there and kill somebody, they could kill somebody.

Agreed. It wasn't "intentional", as in being planned, or premeditate. It was a reaction on his part to what was happening around him. But, he did exactly what his impulse told him to do. It wasn't an accident. It was an inappropriate reaction, just as many of his other on-field issues with personal fouls. He is still responsible for it.

Pugger
08-23-2012, 09:55 AM
It was intentional but not remeditated. The loins can have that Neanderthal.

Kiwon
08-23-2012, 10:43 AM
It was intentional but not remeditated. The loins can have that Neanderthal.

"loins" or "lions"? :-)

Freak Out
08-23-2012, 11:49 AM
I would have some respect for the boy named Suh just came out and said exactly that Patler....people get angry and frustrated and do stupid things sometimes. That's exactly what he did. I'll never forget when Sean Jones kicked the guy in the head (?).

Pugger
08-23-2012, 01:27 PM
"loins" or "lions"? :-)

loins! ;-)