Injury Updates??

[Bossman641]

Anyone heard anything?

Heard MM saying Smith and Saine were significant and could miss the rest of the year.

Haven't we had our share of injuries already?

[pbmax]

Smith and Saine were both on crutches and had their knees heavily wrapped. Shields was his shin (though it looked like he got kicked in the back of his calf) and Perry a knee.

EDIT: Smith has an achilles.

[pbmax]

A report in GBPG has Smith with a knee injury.

[run pMc]

Yeah, saw report this am that Perry has knee injury that is not season-ending.
Brandon Saine and D.J. Smith have "significant" knee injuries.
Read somewhere that Shields got kicked in the shin and it's not serious.
Also read that Rodgers was a little stiff-legged but otherwise ok.

So...who does GB trot out vs. the Rams? Assuming Perry and Smith are out I'm assuming it's Walden/Moses at OLB and Brad Jones/Rob Francois at ILB? If Saine is done are we going to have a Marc Tyler sighting? Wonder how this impacts special teams.

[George Cumby]

Perry was moving around without help. He'll be back soon.

Smith's season is done. Achilles = bad news.

[Little Whiskey]

EDIT: Smith has an achilles.

Don't we all?

[sharpe1027]

Don't we all?

Not Oscar Pistorius.

[Guiness]

Saine get hurt on ST?

[Fosco33]

Was it smith that got blown up after the play?? That deserves a fine.

[Shoal]

"Packers have put LB DJ Smith and RB Brandon Saine on injured reserve and claimed RB Johnny White on waivers from the Bills."

[Freak Out]

Was it smith that got blown up after the play?? That deserves a fine.

That was a cheap shot and should have drawn a flag.

http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/DJ-SMITH-CHEAP-SHOT.gif

[Little Whiskey]

"Packers have put LB DJ Smith and RB Brandon Saine on injured reserve and claimed RB Johnny White on waivers from the Bills."

heard a rummor today on 670 out of chicago that they expected the Packers to pickup Bell after the Bears cut him today.

[Shoal]

heard a rummor today on 670 out of chicago that they expected the Packers to pickup Bell after the Bears cut him today.

The Chicago Tribune said "RB Kahlil Bell is expected to be claimed off waivers, possibly by Green Bay. His salary now stands at $615,000, making him more attractive on the waiver wire."

[George Cumby]

"Packers have put LB DJ Smith and RB Brandon Saine on injured reserve and claimed RB Johnny White on waivers from the Bills."

20 posts in six years?

repped.

[Little Whiskey]

20 posts in six years?

repped.

And with a Rat Title.......double Rep!

[RashanGary]

I haven't read or listened to much of anything this year. What's going on with Davon House?

[pbmax]

I haven't read or listened to much of anything this year. What's going on with Davon House?

He has been full participant in practice for at least a week if not more (likely more but can only positively remember last week's report). He just doesn't seem to be able to leap Shields or Hayward.

He is not replacing Bush due to special teams. So unless they add a body on defense, he's going to need to pass someone else to get to the active roster.

[rbaloha1]

"Packers have put LB DJ Smith and RB Brandon Saine on injured reserve and claimed RB Johnny White on waivers from the Bills."

Its Manning time.

[Joemailman]

Its Manning time.

Not the way MM talked today. Sounds like Manning's reps will be mostly on ST. Expect some combination of Jones, Francois and Lattimore to replace Smith. Also, Hawk may play more in sub-packages.

[Guiness]

Not the way MM talked today. Sounds like Manning's reps will be mostly on ST. Expect some combination of Jones, Francois and Lattimore to replace Smith. Also, Hawk may play more in sub-packages.

Will he be in space?

[Patler]

Its Manning time.


Not the way MM talked today. Sounds like Manning's reps will be mostly on ST. Expect some combination of Jones, Francois and Lattimore to replace Smith. Also, Hawk may play more in sub-packages.

Initially, but he likely will get more practice opportunities to show that he can also contribute in other ways.

Wasn't he considered to be a strong blitzer in pre-draft reports?

[pbmax]

Yes Manning was considered a young pass rushing demon.

I hope to see some Francois in dime. Not sure if he is sound enough elsewhere, but he made quite an impression last year in limited reps for his pass D. Like an octopus back there.

[Packers4Glory]

Francois and Lattimore are intriguing guys to me.

Did Grant get picked up yet? he knows the system and we know him. He's got something left to give.

[Joemailman]

Grant is a Redskin.

[mraynrand]

Yes Manning was considered a young pass rushing demon.

I hope to see some Francois in dime. Not sure if he is sound enough elsewhere, but he made quite an impression last year in limited reps for his pass D. Like an octopus back there.

Good point. Good in coverage, weak in run support. We can call him Octopussy.

[Packers4Glory]

Grant is a Redskin.

yeah I just read we signed some dude from Buf.

[rbaloha1]

Watch the physical play Manning brings to the position -- a faster Bishop.

Oftentimes, Capers goes with experience over rookie talent initially. After the pain of playing the wrong players, Capers inserts the talented rookies and whalla -- improvement.

[Patler]

Did Grant get picked up yet? he knows the system and we know him. He's got something left to give.

I doubt they would have signed Grant, even if he had been available. They seemed more interested in signing a guy to replace Saine on STs. They said they wanted to get him in ASAP and start working with him on ST responsibilities. I don't think Grant would have been that guy.

[Bossman641]

Yes Manning was considered a young pass rushing demon.

I hope to see some Francois in dime. Not sure if he is sound enough elsewhere, but he made quite an impression last year in limited reps for his pass D. Like an octopus back there.

Hasn't the knock on Francois been that he plays good zone pass D but isn't quick enough to match up 1 on 1? I could have sworn a coach made that comment sometime but I might be imagining it.

[smuggler]

He replaced Bishop for a few plays last year in coverage in the game against SD when Gates was going apeshit 1-on-1. He did noticably better than Bish in that game in that respect. (Hard to blame Bishop for getting roasted by Gates for 77 8-yard passes to Antonio Gates - he made tackles after the catch)

[Shoal]

20 posts in six years?

repped.

I saw your comment. That made a little bit of Blatz come back through my nose.

Ok....why would I only comment 20 times in 6 years?

1. I am a slow typer and reader.
2. I am still trying to find Waldo's posts; Sheepshead players; and my Jerry Tagge signed ball cap I lost in my last move.
3. I don't have any thoughts/opinions most days.
4. I'm still ticked off about that 4th and 26 play, Tony Mandarich, Tate's TD, and losing my '65 Ron Kostelnik bottle cap.
5. I watched Starr/Taylor/Horning on a tiny, grainy black and white and now I can't "see" most forum topics even with glasses.
6. Everything I would have said youse guys have already said earlier.....so no need to pile on. Besides I have come to the conclusion that TT is smarter than me when it comes to Packer personnel.
7. The net at work blocks access to www.Packerrats.com.
8. With Fantasy Football, a 100# dog, and ice cream (wish it was Kopps though and YES I know, I know Kopps is 'custard')....who has the time?
9. I also have to read Jersey Al, Rodney, Wilde, Cheesehead, etc. (but no 'Bleacher Report' junk). Well maybe Bleacher Report between the day after Super Bowl and Draft Day.
10. You can play softball almost year-round in Virginia.

Ok...the real answer is 6.

[Fosco33]

I saw your comment. That made a little bit of Blatz come back through my nose.

Ok....why would I only comment 20 times in 6 years?

1. I am a slow typer and reader.
2. I am still trying to find Waldo's posts; Sheepshead players; and my Jerry Tagge signed ball cap I lost in my last move.
3. I don't have any thoughts/opinions most days.
4. I'm still ticked off about that 4th and 26 play, Tony Mandarich, Tate's TD, and losing my '65 Ron Kostelnik bottle cap.
5. I watched Starr/Taylor/Horning on a tiny, grainy black and white and now I can't "see" most forum topics even with glasses.
6. Everything I would have said youse guys have already said earlier.....so no need to pile on. Besides I have come to the conclusion that TT is smarter than me when it comes to Packer personnel.
7. The net at work blocks access to www.Packerrats.com.
8. With Fantasy Football, a 100# dog, and ice cream (wish it was Kopps though and YES I know, I know Kopps is 'custard')....who has the time?
9. I also have to read Jersey Al, Rodney, Wilde, Cheesehead, etc. (but no 'Bleacher Report' junk). Well maybe Bleacher Report between the day after Super Bowl and Draft Day.
10. You can play softball almost year-round in Virginia.

Ok...the real answer is 6.

Nice - I loved Virginia. I was in Arlington for a year (actually will be there next week). Beautiful part of the country and plenty to do.

[MadtownPacker]

7. The net at work blocks access to www.Packerrats.com.
Damn, we that bad? Still fucking un-American!! :lol:

[George Cumby]

I saw your comment. That made a little bit of Blatz come back through my nose.


6. Everything I would have said youse guys have already said earlier.....so no need to pile on. Besides I have come to the conclusion that TT is smarter than me when it comes to Packer personnel.

Ok...the real answer is 6.


That hasn't stopped anyone else on this board..........

[pbmax]

That hasn't stopped anyone else on this board..........

Ditto.

Trade James Jones now while he has value!

[mraynrand]

I saw your comment. That made a little bit of Blatz come back through my nose.

Ok....why would I only comment 20 times in 6 years?

1. I am a slow typer and reader.
2. I am still trying to find Waldo's posts; Sheepshead players; and my Jerry Tagge signed ball cap I lost in my last move.
3. I don't have any thoughts/opinions most days.
4. I'm still ticked off about that 4th and 26 play, Tony Mandarich, Tate's TD, and losing my '65 Ron Kostelnik bottle cap.
5. I watched Starr/Taylor/Horning on a tiny, grainy black and white and now I can't "see" most forum topics even with glasses.
6. Everything I would have said youse guys have already said earlier.....so no need to pile on. Besides I have come to the conclusion that TT is smarter than me when it comes to Packer personnel.
7. The net at work blocks access to www.Packerrats.com.
8. With Fantasy Football, a 100# dog, and ice cream (wish it was Kopps though and YES I know, I know Kopps is 'custard')....who has the time?
9. I also have to read Jersey Al, Rodney, Wilde, Cheesehead, etc. (but no 'Bleacher Report' junk). Well maybe Bleacher Report between the day after Super Bowl and Draft Day.
10. You can play softball almost year-round in Virginia.

Ok...the real answer is 6.

Funny as hell: repped.

I would love to find someone who plays sheepshead (not online, but in an outdated, wood-paneled, 'finished' basement with stogies, schnapps, and beer). Do you play with Diamonds or clubs as trump?? I bet you mauer like a bastard!!! :lol:

[mraynrand]

scheisskopf!

[HarveyWallbangers]

I like the way Hawk is playing, but I don't like him in coverage. I expect Francois will ultimately take over Smith's role in subpackages. I was impressed by his coverage last year. He's tall, so maybe he'll do a better job on those passes behind him over the middle than Hawk (lacks the top speed) and Smith (short). Manning and Lattimore have intriguing pass rush ability/athleticism. Losing Bishop and then Smith is a blow, but they are replaceable.

[Fosco33]

I like the way Hawk is playing, but I don't like him in coverage. I expect Francois will ultimately take over Smith's role in subpackages. I was impressed by his coverage last year. He's tall, so maybe he'll do a better job on those passes behind him over the middle than Hawk (lacks the top speed) and Smith (short). Manning and Lattimore have intriguing pass rush ability/athleticism. Losing Bishop and then Smith is a blow, but they are replaceable.

How does Zombo play into the mix if/when he comes off pup?

[pbmax]

I am not sure Zombo has a spot right now though Perry's injury could change that. Moses isn't going anywhere and Walden will start this week plus Matthews. I think they will hold onto him for the entire three weeks and unless Perry or someone gets hurt, he will be on the street. With Barclay on the roster along with the Buffalo RB, they are at 53 now but they have yet to officially move DJ Smith to IR according to Packers.com. And I would expect that spot to go to Quarless first.

[Smidgeon]

I like the way Hawk is playing, but I don't like him in coverage. I expect Francois will ultimately take over Smith's role in subpackages. I was impressed by his coverage last year. He's tall, so maybe he'll do a better job on those passes behind him over the middle than Hawk (lacks the top speed) and Smith (short). Manning and Lattimore have intriguing pass rush ability/athleticism. Losing Bishop and then Smith is a blow, but they are replaceable.

I find it interesting that Brad Jones was the first man in when Smith went down. More versatile than Francois?

[mraynrand]

I find it interesting that Brad Jones was the first man in when Smith went down. More versatile than Francois?

I think they were still keying on Houston's run game, and Jones>Francois against the run. Remember, Francois has the octopus arms for pass coverage and is a wimp in run defense: Octopussy

[pittstang5]

I read that Perry and Shields will be "hard pressed" to play Sunday against the Rams. I haven't watched the entire Houston game yet, but I heard Shields got kicked in the shin. He's going to be "hard Pressed" to play this Sunday? Am I missing somethng? Was the injury worse than led to believe?

[pbmax]

I find it interesting that Brad Jones was the first man in when Smith went down. More versatile than Francois?

Lattimore worked more at Hawk's position I think and is more a run stopper than Francois as well. Francois is the weakest of the three against the run from what we can gather. Manning isn't considered ready yet.

[sharpe1027]

I read that Perry and Shields will be "hard pressed" to play Sunday against the Rams. I haven't watched the entire Houston game yet, but I heard Shields got kicked in the shin. He's going to be "hard Pressed" to play this Sunday? Am I missing somethng? Was the injury worse than led to believe?

He got leg whipped pretty good.

[George Cumby]

I saw your comment. That made a little bit of Blatz come back through my nose.

Ok....why would I only comment 20 times in 6 years?

1. I am a slow typer and reader.
2. I am still trying to find Waldo's posts; Sheepshead players; and my Jerry Tagge signed ball cap I lost in my last move.
3. I don't have any thoughts/opinions most days.
4. I'm still ticked off about that 4th and 26 play, Tony Mandarich, Tate's TD, and losing my '65 Ron Kostelnik bottle cap.
5. I watched Starr/Taylor/Horning on a tiny, grainy black and white and now I can't "see" most forum topics even with glasses.
6. Everything I would have said youse guys have already said earlier.....so no need to pile on. Besides I have come to the conclusion that TT is smarter than me when it comes to Packer personnel.
7. The net at work blocks access to www.Packerrats.com.
8. With Fantasy Football, a 100# dog, and ice cream (wish it was Kopps though and YES I know, I know Kopps is 'custard')....who has the time?
9. I also have to read Jersey Al, Rodney, Wilde, Cheesehead, etc. (but no 'Bleacher Report' junk). Well maybe Bleacher Report between the day after Super Bowl and Draft Day.
10. You can play softball almost year-round in Virginia.

Ok...the real answer is 6.

Good work everyone. Shoal has now stopped posting at 21.........

[ThunderDan]

scheisskopf!

We played growing up at my grandparents' house. Huge game in the Point/Wausau area. Had to clarify what was trump because there seemed to be a break around Mosinee on Diamonds/Clubs.

[Iron Mike]

Funny as hell: repped.

I would love to find someone who plays sheepshead (not online, but in an outdated, wood-paneled, 'finished' basement with stogies, schnapps, and beer). Do you play with Diamonds or clubs as trump?? I bet you mauer like a bastard!!! :lol:

The old cats in the 'hood back in De Pere would forgo Schafskopf to play 5-point Smear.

[Freak Out]

Raji, Jennings, Shields still out this week?

[QBME]

Raji, Jennings, Shields still out this week?

This is from CBS Sports - sorry about the formatting.....

10/19/12 WR Greg Jennings Groin Out for Week 7 at St. Louis
10/18/12 TE Jermichael Finley Shoulder Limited practice. Probable for Week 7 at St. Louis
10/18/12 RB Alex Green Shoulder Limited practice. Probable for Week 7 at St. Louis
10/18/12 CB Davon House Shoulder Full practice. Probable for Week 7 at St. Louis
10/18/12 LB Nick Perry Knee Did not practice. Questionable for Week 7 at St. Louis
10/18/12 DT B.J. Raji Ankle Limited practice. Questionable for Week 7 at St. Louis
10/18/12 S Sean Richardson Hamstring Limited practice. Questionable for Week 7 at St. Louis
10/18/12 QB Aaron Rodgers Calf Full practice. Probable for Week 7 at St. Louis
10/18/12 CB Sam Shields Shin, ankle Did not practice. Questionable for Week 7 at St. Louis
10/18/12 TE D.J. Williams Hamstring Full practice. Probable for Week 7 at St. Louis

[Guiness]

GJ still out, eh? Uh oh.

Last I heard, House is still wearing a brace, but could probably go. Will depend on Shields' availability.

I wonder how seriously they're taking St-L, and if they might keep guys out an extra week because of the opponent? I'm mostly thinking about Raji, we stopped Houston's run game without him.

[Smidgeon]

Raji, Jennings, Shields still out this week?

I read that Raji, Jennings, Shields, and Perry are all out for Sunday's game.

[QBME]

I read that Raji, Jennings, Shields, and Perry are all out for Sunday's game.

This from NFL.com

Green Bay Packers at St. Louis Rams
Name Position Injury Practice Status Game Status
GB
Jermichael Finley TE Shoulder Limited Participation in Practice Probable
Alex Green RB Shoulder Limited Participation in Practice Probable
Davon House CB Shoulder Full Participation in Practice Probable
Greg Jennings WR Groin Did Not Participate In Practice Out
Nick Perry LB Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Out
B.J. Raji DT Ankle Limited Participation in Practice Out
Sean Richardson S Hamstring Limited Participation in Practice Probable
Aaron Rodgers QB Calf Full Participation in Practice Probable
Sam Shields CB Shin Did Not Participate In Practice Out
D.J. Smith LB -- Out (Definitely Will Not Play) --
D.J. Williams TE Hamstring Full Participation in Practice Probable
STL

[Freak Out]

Forgot about Perry....damn.

Time for the O to light it up. :)

Has Neal been playing OLB or DE more?

[rbaloha1]

Thank goodness for quality depth. Zombo types are going to find it tougher to make the Packer roster.

[Guiness]

Raji, Perry and Shields out. Yuck.

Does Woodson start at CB? Other choices are Bush and Hayward, House is likely the dime back.

Woodson is listed on the Packers depth chart as the starting SS.

Saw this on the Injury Report

Johnny Jolly Suspension Suspended indefinitely

Did the league even respond to his reinstatement request? Wow has he ever been treated shitty.

[Teamcheez1]

It is now being reported that Jennings is seeing a specialist about his groin injury. It sounds like the injury is not healing, or is healing very slowly. I wonder if we will even see him before the bye week? This doesn't bode well for his season or new contract.

[pbmax]

Pretty sure Johnny's request is in the circular file. But he basically hit his three strike count all while the NFL was making its initial decision. If he could have spread them out more, it might have gone more favorably.

It's obvious he won't be reinstated until next year, I just hope they don't sit on it all offseason and cost him another year. I think he deserves a chance to set it right.

Woodson is SS in the base and slot CB in nickel and dime. McMillan is a better SS, Jennings is better deep at FS. In base, the question becomes where do they want to play Burnett? If they want Burnett deep or play Cover-2, Jennings is the guy. Otherwise McMillan might get the snaps closer to the LOS.

In nickel, its a question of McMillan or Hayward as the slot CB. Much depends here on Shields. If Shields plays, he will be outside, freeing Hayward up for slot duty. If Shields can't play, they have to decide whether they want House outside.

Dime, they will all be out there with Shields/House arguing over RCB.

[Joemailman]

It is now being reported that Jennings is seeing a specialist about his groin injury. It sounds like the injury is not healing, or is healing very slowly. I wonder if we will even see him before the bye week? This doesn't bode well for his season or new contract.

The best thing for Jennings is to make sure he's healthy for the end of the season. If he were to injure the groin again, and be injured when he enters free agency, that would hurt him more than missing games now. Everyone in the NFL knows how good a receiver he is when healthy.

[Fritz]

It is now being reported that Jennings is seeing a specialist about his groin injury. It sounds like the injury is not healing, or is healing very slowly. I wonder if we will even see him before the bye week? This doesn't bode well for his season or new contract.

And here's his groin specialist:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR9WXNYouQkBwEJu3W1eWRINsdOW0Lb4-DU9RLBlrQUSDzJ6895

[Joemailman]

I think he injured his groin filming a commercial.

http://www.adrants.com/images/CapturFiles-Sep-24-2012_11.46.49.jpg

[Cheesehead Craig]

I think he injured his groin filming a commercial.

http://www.adrants.com/images/CapturFiles-Sep-24-2012_11.46.49.jpg

She certainly is worth injuring your groin over.

[Joemailman]

MM said Raji will go through the "rehab portion" of practice tomorrow, and then they will make a decision on whether he practices Friday. Doesn't sound like he's expecting Shields or Perry to play.

[Freak Out]

I think he injured his groin filming a commercial.

http://www.adrants.com/images/CapturFiles-Sep-24-2012_11.46.49.jpg

So is this the "Groin Specialist" he saw about the injury?

[Joemailman]

Jordy Nelson missed practice today and won't practice tomorrow because his hamstring tightened up on him yesterday.

[pbmax]

Other than Raji being limited today (an step forward), this list is getting depressing.

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod
#Packers Injuries: DNP- G. Jennings, Shields, Kuhn, Nelson, Perry, Starks; Limited- Raji, Lang, Saturday, Finley; Full-Driver, Rodgers

[Fritz]

Agreed. Now it looks like Nelson may sit.

This widespread injury stuff has to fudge up MM's practice plans.

[Pugger]

Good lord, no Jordy? How good/bad is Jacksonville at stopping the run? We might have to depend upon Driver and Boykin picking up the slack.

[Patler]

Good lord, no Jordy? How good/bad is Jacksonville at stopping the run? We might have to depend upon Driver and Boykin picking up the slack.

I'm looking forward to seeing both on the field a lot this weekend. It will be good to know if Driver can be counted on, and if Boykin has potential to be more than a 5th/6th receiver.

[Cheesehead Craig]

If Jordy can't play, that line for the Jax game is going to get a bit smaller. I think it's the Pack -16.5 right now.