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Patler
12-04-2012, 06:22 AM
They have to make some changes, don't they?
7 O-linemen are fine as long as everyone is healthy. They normally dress only 7 for games anyway. Even if Lang can start this week, can he finish the game? EDS and Van Roten are not tackles. If Lang is out, or gimpy to any degree, don't they need another tackle on the 53 man roster?
Some thoughts:
- Recently signed WR Jeremy Ross has a decent record as a kick and punt returner, and could be an option to give Cobb a breather now and then, as Cobb plays more and more on offense.
- Even with Nelson hurt, do they need 7 WRs if the plan going forward will be to use TEs and Kuhn more to provide help in pass protection, as they did this past game? Plays with more than 3 WRs might be rare.
- DD has contributed only a little on the field. Fans and teammates have been weaned from seeing him on the field. A thumb injury made him inactive against MN. Might this be a prelude to removing him from the 53 man roster, possibly to IR? TT like other GMs toward the end of the season tends to move a few dinged up players to IR to get a healthier, better balanced roster.
They probably need to sign an OT. To make room, Driver could be put on IR without negative fan reaction, as cutting him would have.
Fritz
12-04-2012, 06:26 AM
As I read your post, I kept thinking, well, who are they going to cut to make room for another tackle?
And I like your answer. Even bit players like Ross have value on ST, whereas Driver is so limited in what he can do. I thought they'd use him more in the slot, but that spot belongs to Cobb now. I'd hate to see the team get rid of a young guy who might be picked up elsewhere (like Boykin), so I think it would be a good idea to IR Driver, then sign the best available street free agent who can play both tackle spots. That guy, whoever he is, might well be firing up his hi-lo in some Costco right now, as we speak.
Patler
12-04-2012, 06:29 AM
... then sign the best available street free agent who can play both tackle spots. That guy, whoever he is, might well be firing up his hi-lo in some Costco right now, as we speak.
They might have the guy on PS right now - Datko.
Patler
12-04-2012, 06:34 AM
With both Harris and White now on the roster, either of them would be candidates to be released as well.
LegandofthePack15
12-04-2012, 06:46 AM
With both Harris and White now on the roster, either of them would be candidates to be released as well.
Better NOT be Harris. He's the Packers' best RB on Madden. If Thompson idiotically releases Harris, he is released in Madden, too. :-x
Patler
12-04-2012, 06:49 AM
Manning to IR or So'Oto to the street are other options for roster space.
Guiness
12-04-2012, 08:33 AM
So'Oto was my guess, but you're right a serious case could be made for DD. I think it's not just a matter of Cobb passing by him, it's a matter of him just not being able to do it anymore. I didn't know Manning was that bad.
Roster composition though...we are the team that carried 5 TEs right through the year. I don't think that matters much to MM and TT.
What about Benson? I guess he was already 'IR, designated to return' so wasn't using a roster space when they moved him to the season ending IR.
denverYooper
12-04-2012, 09:06 AM
They have to make some changes, don't they?
7 O-linemen are fine as long as everyone is healthy. They normally dress only 7 for games anyway. Even if Lang can start this week, can he finish the game? EDS and Van Roten are not tackles. If Lang is out, or gimpy to any degree, don't they need another tackle on the 53 man roster?
Some thoughts:
- Recently signed WR Jeremy Ross has a decent record as a kick and punt returner, and could be an option to give Cobb a breather now and then, as Cobb plays more and more on offense.
- Even with Nelson hurt, do they need 7 WRs if the plan going forward will be to use TEs and Kuhn more to provide help in pass protection, as they did this past game? Plays with more than 3 WRs might be rare.
- DD has contributed only a little on the field. Fans and teammates have been weaned from seeing him on the field. A thumb injury made him inactive against MN. Might this be a prelude to removing him from the 53 man roster, possibly to IR? TT like other GMs toward the end of the season tends to move a few dinged up players to IR to get a healthier, better balanced roster.
They probably need to sign an OT. To make room, Driver could be put on IR without negative fan reaction, as cutting him would have.
Concur on Driver. I was thinking yesterday that Drive would be the next guy to go to IR if they needed space.
denverYooper
12-04-2012, 09:12 AM
Better NOT be Harris. He's the Packers' best RB on Madden. If Thompson idiotically releases Harris, he is released in Madden, too. :-x
Damn, that's cold.
Patler
12-04-2012, 09:16 AM
So'Oto was my guess, but you're right a serious case could be made for DD. I think it's not just a matter of Cobb passing by him, it's a matter of him just not being able to do it anymore. I didn't know Manning was that bad.
Roster composition though...we are the team that carried 5 TEs right through the year. I don't think that matters much to MM and TT.
What about Benson? I guess he was already 'IR, designated to return' so wasn't using a roster space when they moved him to the season ending IR.
I don't know that Manning's injury is bad, but he was ruled out a couple days before the game last week and has had somewhat of a lost season anyway. This time of year it doesn't take a lot to get a guy on IR. Two years ago when Newhouse hadn't been playing and tweaked his back in practice, they put him on IR rather quickly. Manning and So'Oto seem to be the 9th and 10th LBs. Neither would be missed this year.
The 5 TEs last year all had purpose on the roster, and they didn't carry them all through the season and into playoffs anyway. Quarless went on IR in early December, and they kept it at 4 thereafter. At the time, 5 TEs made more sense than 7 WRs do right now.
woodbuck27
12-04-2012, 09:19 AM
They have to make some changes, don't they?
7 O-linemen are fine as long as everyone is healthy. They normally dress only 7 for games anyway. Even if Lang can start this week, can he finish the game? EDS and Van Roten are not tackles. If Lang is out, or gimpy to any degree, don't they need another tackle on the 53 man roster?
Some thoughts:
- Recently signed WR Jeremy Ross has a decent record as a kick and punt returner, and could be an option to give Cobb a breather now and then, as Cobb plays more and more on offense.
- Even with Nelson hurt, do they need 7 WRs if the plan going forward will be to use TEs and Kuhn more to provide help in pass protection, as they did this past game? Plays with more than 3 WRs might be rare.
- DD has contributed only a little on the field. Fans and teammates have been weaned from seeing him on the field. A thumb injury made him inactive against MN. Might this be a prelude to removing him from the 53 man roster, possibly to IR? TT like other GMs toward the end of the season tends to move a few dinged up players to IR to get a healthier, better balanced roster.
They probably need to sign an OT. To make room, Driver could be put on IR without negative fan reaction, as cutting him would have.
They have to make some changes, don't they?
7 O-linemen are fine as long as everyone is healthy. They normally dress only 7 for games anyway. Even if Lang can start this week, can he finish the game? EDS and Van Roten are not tackles. If Lang is out, or gimpy to any degree, don't they need another tackle on the 53 man roster? Patler
Yes...I saw that as a problem as I studied our OL situation. A might thin at OL and at backup positions (a lack of NFL experience).
We have this fella on our PS:
# 77....Andrew Datco......Tackle.....6'-6".....315 lbs....22 Yr's old....R....Florida State
http://www.packers.com/team/roster/Andrew-Datko/154110a4-1543-4c8d-8133-b3727a3940e7
We're still carrying four TE's:
TE's Jermichael Finley, Tom Crabtree, D.J. Williams and Ryan Taylor.
I also see the situation as it presents itself RE: Donald Driver (along with Jarrett Boykin and Jeremy Ross); and 7 WR's total. Although right now I'm not fully up to date in regards to J. Nelson's hammy problem.
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run pMc
12-04-2012, 11:02 AM
They'll keep Driver. Can't see them putting him on IR. They'd release So'oto first.
Promoting Datko is a possibility, but I wouldnt' put it past M3 and TT to tempt fate and roll with who they have.
If they run out of linemen they'll just send out extra receivers -- right now M3 is thinking up a 4WR/3TE package. :)
pittstang5
12-04-2012, 11:31 AM
They'll keep Driver. Can't see them putting him on IR. They'd release So'oto first.
Promoting Datko is a possibility, but I wouldnt' put it past M3 and TT to tempt fate and roll with who they have.
If they run out of linemen they'll just send out extra receivers -- right now M3 is thinking up a 4WR/3TE package. :)
We've seen a 4 TE package already (All 4 TEs in WRs spots) - beginning of the year, can't remember which game - so 4 WR/ 3 TE might not be far fetched. :smile:
Fritz
12-04-2012, 12:19 PM
I wonder if Datko has progressed on the practice squad.
If so'oto or harris have ST value, then The Donald would seem the logical person to dump. Sad, but true. Just a few short months ago he was Dancing with the Stars.
cut bush
I don't know if cutting him is the right answer. He's fantastic on punt coverage.
woodbuck27
12-04-2012, 01:55 PM
They have to make some changes, don't they?
7 O-linemen are fine as long as everyone is healthy. They normally dress only 7 for games anyway. Even if Lang can start this week, can he finish the game? EDS and Van Roten are not tackles. If Lang is out, or gimpy to any degree, don't they need another tackle on the 53 man roster? Patler
Yes...I saw that as a problem as I studied our OL situation. A might thin at OL and at backup positions (a lack of NFL experience).
We have this fella on our PS:
# 77....Andrew Datco......Tackle.....6'-6".....315 lbs....22 Yr's old....R....Florida State
http://www.packers.com/team/roster/Andrew-Datko/154110a4-1543-4c8d-8133-b3727a3940e7
We're still carrying four TE's:
TE's Jermichael Finley, Tom Crabtree, D.J. Williams and Ryan Taylor.
I also see the situation as it presents itself RE: Donald Driver (along with Jarrett Boykin and Jeremy Ross); and 7 WR's total. Although right now I'm not fully up to date in regards to J. Nelson's hammy problem.
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" Although right now I'm not fully up to date in regards to J. Nelson's hammy problem. "
I just heard on NFL Access that MM is saying that Jordy Nelson's hammy injury isn't too serious.
He's not expected to play Vs the Lions on Sunday 9 Dec. '12.
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Bossman641
12-04-2012, 02:35 PM
cut bush
If the goal is to make the ST worse than I wholeheartedly agree with this suggestion.
Pugger
12-04-2012, 04:03 PM
cut bush
If the goal is to make the ST worse than I wholeheartedly agree with this suggestion.
No shit. :lol:
pbmax
12-05-2012, 08:12 AM
They worked out Shea Allred this week.
Joemailman
12-05-2012, 08:21 AM
I wonder if Datko has progressed on the practice squad.
If so'oto or harris have ST value, then The Donald would seem the logical person to dump. Sad, but true. Just a few short months ago he was Dancing with the Stars.
Jennings has been injury prone the last year, Jordy has his second hamstring injury of the year, and people want to cut/IR Driver? Not a good idea unless his thumb injury is serious.
pbmax
12-05-2012, 08:51 AM
Jennings has been injury prone the last year, Jordy has his second hamstring injury of the year, and people want to cut/IR Driver? Not a good idea unless his thumb injury is serious.
The answer to their individual ills is to call in specialist Dr. Frankenstein. Meet your new receiver, Gregjor Jenningson.
woodbuck27
12-05-2012, 10:44 AM
http://www.espnmilwaukee.com/common/...&post_id=16161
“It’s not an ACL,” the source said, adding that the early evaluation was that the injury would not require surgery. But with only four regular-season games left, the Packers likely will want (James) Starks’ roster spot for a healthy player for the stretch run.
Well there's one spot evidently opened up. Too bad given that Starks looked good Vs the Vikings and helped give us the running game we need to help protect AR and make our offense less predictable.
RE: Donald Driver:
Personally I'm hoping that DD will soon be able to go (that his season isn't ended) because I'm concerned about Jordy Nelson and his ongoing 'hammy injury' and we just got Greg Jennings back and what if he goes down again? Having a man such as DD with his experience and leadership skills 'even on the sidelines as a backup' is a plus.
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denverYooper
12-05-2012, 11:21 AM
They worked out Shea Allred this week.
Signed him to the PS, apparently:
https://twitter.com/WesHod/status/276371540633870336
The #Packers have signed RB Ryan Grant, placed RB Johnny White, and signed OL Shea Allard and S Chaz Powell to practice squad
woodbuck27
12-05-2012, 11:40 AM
Signed him to the PS, apparently:
https://twitter.com/WesHod/status/276371540633870336
http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Packers-bring-back-Ryan-Grant/547df0d8-1141-42bd-9cef-ade8bb56ec7e
( Ryan ) Grant, a 6-foot-1, 222-pound sixth-year player out of Notre Dame, played in 63 games with 52 starts for the Packers from 2007-11 and rushed for 4,016 yards (No. 5 in team history) and 25 TDs on 924 carries (4.3 avg.) over that span. He topped the 1,200-yard rushing mark in both 2008 and 2009, one of only three players in franchise history (Ahman Green, Jim Taylor) to do so in consecutive years. Grant was acquired by the Packers in September 2007 in a trade with the N.Y. Giants, the team that signed him as a non-drafted free agent in May 2005.
Ryan Grant will wear No. 25 .... again !
(Shea) Allard (Al-urd), a 6-foot-4, 305-pound rookie out of the University of Delaware, signed with the Packers as a non-drafted free agent in May 2012 after participating in Green Bay’s rookie orientation camp on a tryout basis. He was with the team during the preseason before being released on Aug. 31. Allard was a three-year starter at left tackle for the Blue Hens, appearing in 42 career games with 33 starts. He earned first-team All-Colonial Athletic Association honors as a senior and third-team All-CAA recognition as a junior. Allard will wear No. 69.
( Chez) Powell, a 6-foot, 203-pound rookie out of Penn State, entered the NFL as a non-drafted free agent with the Oakland Raiders in May 2012. He was with the Raiders during the 2012 preseason before being released on Aug. 27. Powell played both cornerback and wide receiver and returned kickoffs at Penn State, where he set school career records for kickoff returns (73) and kickoff return yards (1,886). Powell will wear No. 41.
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