Official Packers at Vikings Gameday Thread

[red]

good call ref

[pbmax]

Carey deked me out there. THought he was going to call Raji for infraction

[pittstang5]

JUST GIve me a direct call REf. don't need a book!

[red]

another broken tackle

PATHETIC

[wootah]

This tackling is hurting my eyes

[Rutnstrut]

Can anyone on defense tackle?

[pittstang5]

Can't tackle. I sound like a broken record!

[Cheesehead Craig]

Was Tramon afraid the FB was going to run past him? Why the 10 yd cushion?

[red]

turnover

YEAH BABY

[Jimx29]

WTFF??

[wootah]

What the hell was that?!

[pbmax]

Wow. What just happened?

Not a fumble.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Shit, not a fumble

[ThunderDan]

15 yard penalty on MINN.

[pittstang5]

I think he was down, So close.. The breaks keep going the Vikings way again!

[Bretsky]

he is down by contact

[Guiness]

Is that a fumble or not???? So close.

How loud did everyone scream on that lateral?

[red]

knee was in the grass, BUT WAS NOT on the ground

[Cheesehead Craig]

Gonna be 15 yards against MN either way as it was a post play penalty

[ThunderDan]

Should be 2 and 25 for MINN after the time out.

[Bretsky]

If I have this right....even after they reverse it and say no fumble.....we still get the 15yd penalty vs MN, right ???

[red]

so, if they say he was down, does the 15 yard penalty still count?

i would assume so

[ThunderDan]

knee was in the grass, BUT WAS NOT on the ground

Knee touch play over.

[gbgary]

dammit...not a fumble...but a big penalty though.

[pittstang5]

NEED A TO here. Gotta get one somehow!

[Cheesehead Craig]

so, if they say he was down, does the 15 yard penalty still count?

i would assume so

Yep, post play penalty

[ThunderDan]

Post play foul stands no matter what happens with the review.

[Packers4Glory]

Now is the time we can get a strip from AP. He knows he's close to the record. He's going to be fighting extra hard trying to make a play. There's an opportunity out there more than ever now.

[pbmax]

Penalty should count. Dead ball foul

[red]

thats gonna cost us

[wootah]

How loud did everyone scream on that lateral?

Shields is no Cobb.

[pittstang5]

Gotta hold them here. No more yards what so ever!!!!

[Cheesehead Craig]

Fuck me

[pittstang5]

ARe you fucking Kidding me!!!!!

[wootah]

I cannot believe this. We should play goalline defense the whole game.

[pbmax]

Hawk got abused.

[pittstang5]

Down by 10...again. WTF Defense, WTF!

[Packers4Glory]

fuck this defense. ONE fucking guy to stop and they can't.

[red]

if i'm a player i wear giant fucking knee pads, like 5 inches thick so i'm always ruled down early

his knee pad was touching grass, his knee did not shutter, meaning his knee hit ground, until after the ball was out

[ThunderDan]

Peterson can't have a necklace like that. Should be a 15 yard PF it can't come out of the jersey.

[Bretsky]

Gosh I was hoping MN would pass

[KalamazooPackerFan]

You cannot stand there and let Peterson run up on you. Shhoul dhave been stopped after ten yards.

[KYPack]

If I have this right....even after they reverse it and say no fumble.....we still get the 15yd penalty vs MN, right ???

That is a great question, sir.

I intend to research this some fucking how.

[gbgary]

can't stop him. poor tacking hasn't helped.

[red]

fuck you jerome, i hope you die

[red]

Peterson can't have a necklace like that. Should be a 15 yard PF it can't come out of the jersey.

its been called in the past

[Guiness]

That is a concussion for Simpson. He did the classic 'out on his feet'...stumble a couple of steps then drop to your knees.

[red]

you know 210 yards is tough to get

with our help, AP is making it look really easy

[red]

That is a concussion for Simpson. He did the classic 'out on his feet'...stumble a couple of steps then drop to your knees.

my guess is broken ribs the way he was bent over

[pittstang5]

FUCK ME!

[pbmax]

Horrible

[red]

wow, that can be called on every single play

[Cheesehead Craig]

Well, at least AP can only get 2 yards

[ThunderDan]

That's within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage.

[Packers4Glory]

I'll be glad to see woodson out there and not McMillian

[pittstang5]

Yep, Peterson will get the record, Packers will lose and we'll be playing them next week. This SUcks, Defense picked a great game to fold like a cheap suit!

[Rutnstrut]

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Packers4Glory]

of course nobody is anywhere near Peterson

[red]

what the fuck

ONE FUCKING GUY ON THE FIELD THAT YOU NEED TO WORRY ABOUT

and he's wide fucking open

[pbmax]

McMillan got cut blocked and no one took AP on a route.

[gbgary]

well...we've got to answer that.

[ThunderDan]

Hawk bites on the play action and doesn't get to the RB in coverage.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

McMillian needs to go.....Peterson was his man.

[red]

I'll be glad to see woodson out there and not McMillian

very much agreed

[mmmdk]

Vikings want it more...or rather, AD wants it more!

[pbmax]

C'mon. 19 minutes to play. Offense should put up 21.

[pittstang5]

Still alot of time left, but I think it just gives the Vikings more time to run the score up. Alot of work to do in a week, alot work.

[pittstang5]

Nice Ross, digger a deeper hole for us.

[Cheesehead Craig]

C'mon. 19 minutes to play. Offense should put up 21.

Who's offense?

[Rutnstrut]

Vikings want it more...or rather, AD wants it more!

Agree, and the Packers players and coaches were expecting an easy game.

[Packers4Glory]

at least woodson will tackle someone. Fucking Williams just pussy whipping it out there.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

That toss play never works to Newhouse's side.

[red]

yeah baby

[pittstang5]

Almost!! Almost!

[Packers4Glory]

damn it Nelson! you gotta score! slow ass white boy

[gbgary]

jordy!

[pbmax]

Who's offense?

That offense. :)

[red]

where the hell was that famous white lightning speed?

[ThunderDan]

Who's offense?

The one that has put up 17 point in their last 4 possessions.

[mmmdk]

Dang!

[red]

thats a TD baby

[pbmax]

TD!

[Cheesehead Craig]

Not a fumble

[Packers4Glory]

That toss play never works to Newhouse's side.

the only toss that works on Newhouse's side is the AR getting tossed to the dirt

[wootah]

TD

[red]

ground caused fumble in the endzone

TD

[ThunderDan]

Great effort by Jones.

WHAT ARE THE REFS SMOKING!!!

[KalamazooPackerFan]

How the fuck did they call that a fumble?

[pittstang5]

Is it possible to get more screwed than we have this year!

[Cheesehead Craig]

I say not a fumble but spotted at the 1 inch line

[pbmax]

Oh Oh. McCarthy threw the flag. That might kill the review

[gbgary]

touchdown...or close to it. our ball though.

[ThunderDan]

Does MM throwing the flag finish any chance ti reveiw?

[red]

did fat mike just fuck us?

why are they still able to review the play if they saw it? in all honesty that is excatly what schwartz did

[HowardRoark]

Is it the front or the back of the goal line it has to cross?

[Cheesehead Craig]

They announced that before the flag was thrown the play was under review

[pbmax]

did fat mike just fuck us?

why are they still able to review the play if they saw it? in all honesty that is excatly what schwartz did

Afraid so.

[ThunderDan]

Oh Oh. McCarthy threw the flag. That might kill the review

I think the may have changes the rule after the Schwartz call a few week ago but don't remember.

[Bretsky]

Oh Oh. McCarthy threw the flag. That might kill the review

Yes, I thought that should be a penalty on MM ??? I thought that was why AROD was so mad

[KalamazooPackerFan]

The ref said the play was already under review so McCarthy lucked out.

[pittstang5]

This has been an unbelievable season when it comes to Ref calls. I know evey team gets a couple here and there, but it seems the Packers get fucked every other game!

[red]

How the fuck did they call that a fumble?

no clue

[pbmax]

Is it the front or the back of the goal line it has to cross?

front

[HowardRoark]

front

TD

[wootah]

Nelson being smarter than MM.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Jordy.....smart!

[ThunderDan]

I love Nelson grabbing the challenge flag.

[Bretsky]

CLASSIC.............JORDY NELSON tried picking up the flag

[Guiness]

That's a weird ass rule, the one Schwart's got hit by.

lol at Nelson picking it up and hiding it!

that is not a fumble...forget a knee down, his whole thigh was touching the ground.

[Packers4Glory]

AR pissed at MM

[red]

m3 needs to be smarter then that

[KalamazooPackerFan]

I think Rodgers was yelling at the McCarthy for throwing the flag.

[pbmax]

TD!! 15 yard penalty on kickoff.

[Jimx29]

fucked up, but right call

[gbgary]

told ya!!

[Cheesehead Craig]

They gotta change that rule, it's stupid

[pbmax]

Dead straight PAT. Has it been fixed?

[Packers4Glory]

nice for the drama to give the D some rest

[Jimx29]

m3 needs to be smarter then that

The dumbfuck has already been hit with tha foul before. How do you not learn from that?

[ThunderDan]

The refs have blown so many big calls against the Packers all year.

[pittstang5]

So, it's still a penalty on the kickoff. I'm lost.

[red]

hey look, troy hating on the packers

EVEN though perrara and mike carey clearly explained why it was still reviewable

aikmen wants to live by his own set of rules

[Packers4Glory]

should have never been ruled a fumble anyway.

[wootah]

Dead straight PAT. Has it been fixed?

It's fixed until the next miss, PB.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Okay Troy if you follow it why the hell are you arguing about it? It is not just what happened at Detroit.

[gbgary]

Troy is stupid.

[pittstang5]

So the ball is spotted at the 20 on the kick off

[Guiness]

Ok, I understand that you can't challenge on a scoring play.

But...it was not ruled a score. It was ruled a fumble, not a score. So it's not automatically reviewed.

Sounds a lot like a catch-22 to me.

[red]

The refs have blown so many big calls against the Packers all year.

its nice to get a boarderline call go our way

[Jimx29]

peierro, buck, and aikman getting pissy cause it's not what they want it to be

[ThunderDan]

HOlding MINN.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Yes! Cheating Vikes

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Okay, defense, now you need to step up.

[pittstang5]

I'm so lost, but don't care now.

[red]

Ok, I understand that you can't challenge on a scoring play.

But...it was not ruled a score. It was ruled a fumble, not a score. So it's not automatically reviewed.

Sounds a lot like a catch-22 to me.

turnovers are automatically looked at this year

[woodbuck27]

I think Rodgers was yelling at the McCarthy for throwing the flag.

Aaron Rodgers was livid....he went after MM. MM gets off lucky there.

I felt that it was a TD all the way as the ball crossed the plane of the goal line before the knee came down. It was very close.

What a great game...one for the ages.

[ThunderDan]

Ok, I understand that you can't challenge on a scoring play.

But...it was not ruled a score. It was ruled a fumble, not a score. So it's not automatically reviewed.

Sounds a lot like a catch-22 to me.

All turnovers are reviewed now.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Jones read the shit out of that play

[pbmax]

Nice coverage by Jones.

[Packers4Glory]

load up on therun now....no way they throw it here

[pittstang5]

Ok, I understand that you can't challenge on a scoring play.

But...it was not ruled a score. It was ruled a fumble, not a score. So it's not automatically reviewed.

Sounds a lot like a catch-22 to me.

That's my confusion

[Cheesehead Craig]

Cheating again on the Vikes

[Bretsky]

Dear MN...............THANK YOU for coming out throwing

[ThunderDan]

3rd and 12th

[Packers4Glory]

you have GOT to get off the field on this 3rd and long now. no excuses

[red]

They gotta change that rule, it's stupid

they should have changed it the day after thanksgiving when schwartz got hit with it

it'll be gone this offseason, no one likes it. not coaches, not refs, not players

[gbgary]

time for an int...

[pbmax]

Now why can't they have played that way ALL GAME!!

[pittstang5]

you have GOT to get off the field on this 3rd and long now. no excuses

I agree!

[red]

Dear MN...............THANK YOU for coming out throwing

three and out baby

love ponder

[ThunderDan]

3 and out by the D.

O has been rolling other than the turnover. 24 points in 5 possesions.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Wheels coming off the Vikings?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Cheating MN, 5 yd penalty

[Bretsky]

That's my confusion


TD's and Turnovers get reviewed

[pittstang5]

NOw What? Ok

[Rutnstrut]

Aaron Rodgers was livid....he went after MM. MM gets off lucky there.

I felt that it was a TD all the way as the ball crossed the plane of the goal line before the knee came down. It was very close.

What a great game...one for the ages.

Rodgers should have been pissed, MM should know the fucking rules.

[gbgary]

time for the Packers to take the lead for good.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Cheating MN, 15 yd penalty

[red]

add 15 yards

is minny self destructing finally?

[Packers4Glory]

stick it in them now!!

[pbmax]

And a 15 yard penalty on the kicking team. Weird.

[pittstang5]

TD's and Turnovers get reviewed

Oh, shit, forgot about that! I got it now. Should have known. Totally forgot!

[Jimx29]

Cheating MN, 5 yd penalty

I wish all penalties were called cheating. all the ime

[woodbuck27]

Aaron Rodgers was livid....he went after MM. MM gets off lucky there.

I felt that it was a TD all the way as the ball crossed the plane of the goal line before the knee came down. It was very close.

What a great game...one for the ages.

MM was............. 'out of cooontrrrrolll.'.

[pbmax]

https://yfrog.com/obql1ncj:iphone

[Jimx29]

add 15 yards

is minny self destructing finally?

me thinks so

[Rutnstrut]

add 15 yards

is minny self destructing finally?

Yes, and it's a good thing they are. Otherwise this would be a blow out in their favor.

[ThunderDan]

Cool heads win games. ARod needs to get back into the game and keep the O rolling.

[pittstang5]

SOO CLOSE!

[red]

need the td here guys

[Guiness]

turnovers are automatically looked at this year

Ok, so a fumble at midfield can't be challenged? What about the fumble we challenged earlier? Sorry, this doesn't make sense.

Oh. And you're an ass. Just saying :whaa: lol

[pbmax]

SOO CLOSE!

Right through his hands.

[ThunderDan]

Nice throw. Good catch by JJ.

[red]

so on that they called forward momentum, and left the clock run, but not the play earlier when he was thrown backwards

NFL rules suck

[Cheesehead Craig]

Wow that Jennings is a shifty one

[Brandon494]

https://yfrog.com/obql1ncj:iphone

hahaha I freaked out just like Rodgers when I saw MM throw that flag.

[Packers4Glory]

need a TD here w/ this field position. put them 4 down

[red]

Ok, so a fumble at midfield can't be challenged? What about the fumble we challenged earlier? Sorry, this doesn't make sense.

Oh. And you're an ass. Just saying :whaa: lol

hmm, maybe i'm wrong

but that doesn't seem very likely

third and short, THROWING DEEP

[Brandon494]

Crosby wide left

[pittstang5]

Where's the holding call on Jennings. C'mon Refs!

[pbmax]

so on that they called forward momentum, and left the clock run, but not the play earlier when he was thrown backwards

NFL rules suck

This is one of the few I still understand.

[ThunderDan]

Would like to see the replay on that pass.

[red]

mase is back

[Cheesehead Craig]

Crushed it again

[pittstang5]

Shankapotamus

[pbmax]

He's BACK!

[Brandon494]

He's in a dome!

[pbmax]

Would like to see the replay on that pass.

Looked a little similar to that missed connection to Jennings in Giants playoff game last year.

[ThunderDan]

He's in a dome!

How'd that work in Detroit?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Rewound the 3rd down play, nobody was open.

[red]

He's in a dome!

he's been missing those in domes all year

[ThunderDan]

Tough playoff like game on the road. This is a team grower if we pull it out.

[Brandon494]

he's been missing those in domes all year

True, but I still don't trust him. Prob because I've never been a fan and I think hes overrated for his leg.

[Guiness]

Ok, so a fumble at midfield can't be challenged? What about the fumble we challenged earlier? Sorry, this doesn't make sense.

Anyone else have thoughts on this? I don't get it.

[Bretsky]

Gotta admit I was terrified but it was nice seeing that one sail right up the middle.

The reason I've always liked Crosby (before this year) is he has a strong leg and a nice fluid kicking motion that I thought was condusive for Lambeau

Rayner's form seemed all over the place so I was glad Crosby sent him packing

I think it was all mental

He has the tools

[red]

god damnit

[wootah]

True, but I still don't trust him. Prob because I've never been a fan and I think hes overrated for his leg.

Agree. We should sign Chad Johnson as a kicker.

[Packers4Glory]

terrible by shiields

[red]

the worst fucking starting QB in the NFL just torched us

[Brandon494]

Seriously, come on Shields! WTF!

[Cheesehead Craig]

good play by Ponder

[ThunderDan]

Thank goodness Shields is fast to catch him after he screwed up.

[pbmax]

How does Shields get beat on speed?

Edit: Because it was a triple move.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

This game is going to kill me!

[Bretsky]

DAM...dog fight

[Packers4Glory]

you tell me there are never any holds on AP runs?

[RashanGary]

Cant' blame Shields on that one. Great throw.

[gbgary]

dammit!!!

[Bretsky]

How bout a Holding ?

[Guiness]

terrible by shiields

He bit on that move to the inside.

[RashanGary]

AP is almost better with more field. Fuckin A

[pbmax]

Anyone else have thoughts on this? I don't get it.

It can be challenged when the call on the field is NO fumble. But if it is a turnover, its has to be left to the automatic process.

[Packers4Glory]

AP will run it in from here

[Brandon494]

Cant' blame Shields on that one. Great throw.

Sure I can, I looked back at the QB instead of sticking with his guy.

[red]

Anyone else have thoughts on this? I don't get it.

what challenge are you talking about?

i only remember the one early on, and i don't think it was a fumble

[Cheesehead Craig]

Sure I can, I looked back at the QB instead of sticking with his guy.

There is that

[red]

It can be challenged when the call on the field is NO fumble. But if it is a turnover, its has to be left to the automatic process.

yeah, what PB said

[Cheesehead Craig]

What a play by Matthews. Man is he fast

[ThunderDan]

Matthews chases that down from the backside.

[Jimx29]

fuck a duck

[red]

OMG

both players were punching

thats fucking terrible

[Packers4Glory]

stupid fucker. he's had a shit game

[pbmax]

Tramontana is an idiot.

[red]

stupid by t-will

not even part of the play

[Bretsky]

really stupid penalty.....................

[red]

stupid fucker. he's had a shit game

he has, that wasn't his first bonehead play of the game

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Should have at lleast been offsetting

[Packers4Glory]

a sigh of relief getting the hold on 3rd down replaced by a WTF you stupid tampon!

[Brandon494]

What a play by Matthews. Man is he fast

He was chasing Toby Gerhart. Man is he slow.

[red]

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

[Bretsky]

Matthews......has made some really incredible plays with his speed today

[Cheesehead Craig]

Matthews just got the wind knocked out of him likely

[pbmax]

I think 52 knocked the wind out of himself

[ThunderDan]

Hopefully it is just the wind knocked out of him.

[red]

be ok clay

[Bretsky]

HUGE PLAY FOR THE D

[Guiness]

what challenge are you talking about?

i only remember the one early on, and i don't think it was a fumble

Yes, that one, and what pb said makes sense - as far as NFL rules can be said to make sense.

It was ruled 'down by contact' on the field, so not a turnover and not automatically reviewed. We challenged and got it changed to a fumble.

Just watched the replay on William's penalty. How was that not called as offsetting, i.e. penalties on both?

[Cheesehead Craig]

How the hell did he catch that?

[pbmax]

How did he get that?

[wootah]

Damned, Tramon...

[ThunderDan]

How does MD Jennings not pick that off?

[Packers4Glory]

how the fuck did he catch that?! I thought we had a pick. geezus

[Bretsky]

MD JENNINGS.................he wins the award for pussy of the year..........knock the dam ball down !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Brandon494]

Way to show up D, fucking kidding me.

[red]

COME ON JENNINGS

PICK THAT SHIT OFF

[KalamazooPackerFan]

MD Jennings needs to be knocking that down not looking for the INT

[Packers4Glory]

the other fuck up at safety. jennings and mcmillian.

dagger? feels like it on my couch

[Cheesehead Craig]

Jenkins came back for the ball and cut Jennings off. If he doesn't do that, it's a pick

[Packers4Glory]

MD Jennings needs to be knocking that down not looking for the INT

nah. he did everything right this time but catch the ball.

[pbmax]

Still Tramon's fault. Never should have had that down.

Jennings never got all the way to the ball after Shields lost his man.