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woodbuck27
08-21-2006, 11:33 PM
Training Camp Report: Rookie O-linemen Moll, Spitz To Open '06 Season As Starters

by Jeff Harding, Packers.com
posted 08/21/2006

With two preseason games in the books and two to play, Head Coach Mike McCarthy on Monday said he will not wait until the end of training camp to name his opening day starters along the offensive line.

Joining veterans Chad Clifton, Mark Tauscher and third-year center Scott Wells will be 2006 draft picks Tony Moll and Jason Spitz.

"This is the direction we'll go, with Tony at right guard and Jason on the left," McCarthy said. "I thought it was important and I think we've talked about it the last couple of weeks that I was not comfortable waiting until the end of training camp to name the starting five. So by going in this direction it gives us a chance to get these five guys prepped and ready for Chicago."

Moll, a fifth-round draft choice from Nevada, has had solid performances throughout training camp practices, capped by an impressive night vs. Atlanta, Saturday.

"When I got drafted it sounded like I would just be sitting the bench if I made it playing tackle," said Moll, who played tight end and defensive end in high school and tight end during his first four years at Nevada. "So I've made a complete 180 with this and hopefully it's a good decision. Now I can only play my best."

With two preseason games in his future to help him acclimate to his new starting role before the Chicago Bears come calling September 10, Moll looks forward to the opportunity to continue to impress coaches and the time to gel with the same set of linemen on each and every play.

"It shows that the coaches are noticing that I'm working hard and understanding what needs to be done at the NFL level," Moll said. "It's more than one guy. I'm part of a five-man line, so I can only do my part and I'm going to do it to the best of my ability.

"Everyone has their own little trademarks in what they do and everyone's a little different in their calls. Now that I know I'm going to be working with the same guys, it will make a difference."

Spitz agrees that not having the pressure of trying to win a starting role the rest of training camp will help, but it no way does it give them room to relax.

"Anytime you're in their together as one unit it's going to give you time to gel," Spitz said. "I think it's going to be a long time until we are where we need to be. And in no way is (being named a starter) an indicator of how it's going to be the rest of the season.

"You can't get caught up in that. You still have to do your job and you still have to perform everyday. It's a 'show me' world so if I'm not doing my job, a couple of weeks from now it's not going to be the same five."

Gado, running backs to fill in for injured Henderson

McCarthy said that one of the Packers' most durable players, fullback William Henderson, could miss at least three weeks due to the knee injury he sustained in the Packers' preseason game against Atlanta, Saturday night.

"He had it scoped this morning, he just had it cleaned out," Mccarthy said.

"So we're expecting him back as soon as possible. If anybody can get back in a quick, timely fashion, it would be William. I'm hopeful for the opener."

In the meantime, the Packers will turn to some of their running backs for help.

"As far as our run schemes, the battering ram fullback is something that we don't do a lot of, so we can get that productivity from the halfback position," McCarthy said.

"You'll see us training some of our halfbacks in that position and also some of our tight ends. We've always cross-trained those guys and we'll probably do a lot more of that the next couple of weeks getting ready for Chicago."

One player already preparing for an added role is Samkon Gado, who received reps at the fullback position, Monday.

"It was very different," said Gado, who last played fullback during his sophomore year in high school.

"I'm not used to fullback, obviously, and I'm used to being in a two-point stance. But we're hurt right now at that position and we need to get ready for Chicago. If we're going to have any kind of season I think we need to have some depth there."

For Gado, the challenges lying in front of him may sound simple to those who haven't played the position.

"It's actually picking up the reads from a three point stance," Gado said.

"It's a little harder to see when you're in a three point stance because your head is facing down and you need to be able to make the same cuts and the same reads that a running back does, but you have less time to do it."

But with a deep pool of talent at running back, Gado also sees this new position as an opportunity to add to his versatility.

"Coach (Edgar) Bennett told me that the more I could do, the better chance I have of being on the field," Gado said.

"And obviously I would rather be on the field than on the bench with four running backs, so I think this is my best option."

"Football is football. So just being on the field is a lot better than being on the sideline, and with Ahman Green coming back, Coach told me he was going to be on the field a lot. It doesn't matter how good you are at running back, Ahman Green is going to play. So would you rather sit the bench at running back or play a little fullback? I think I would rather play fullback than sit the bench."

Ryan lone man punting, for now

The release of B.J. Sander on Monday left the Packers with one punter on the depth chart.

Jon Ryan, who signed with the Packers as a reserve/future free agent in February, spent two years with the Canadian Football League's Winnipeg Blue Bombers, setting a single-season CFL record with a 50.6-yard gross punting average in 2005.

But much like the newest starters on the offensive line, Ryan knows that just because he's number one now, doesn't mean he can relax.

"There's a little bit of relief being the only guy," Ryan said.

"There's not as much pressure, but at the same time I feel like I'm competing against every free agent punter out there. The job isn't mine yet and I'm certainly going to have to prove myself over the next couple of games."

Ryan has been impressive in practices but says he has not been overly excited about his performance in games thus far.

"Just consistency," Ryan said when asked on what he viewed was his most needed area of improvement.

"I feel like I'm hitting the ball well right now but it hasn't always carried over to the games."

In two games, Ryan has averaged 45.4 yards, including a 55-yarder at San Diego. But most recently has been reeling over his lone attempt in Saturday's game against Atlanta, when he dropped the snap from Rob Davis. Ryan still managed to get off a 42-yard punt but knows that type of mistake won't help his chances of remaining on the team.

"I don't want to use any excuses," Ryan said.

"Something like that should never happen. It's never happened to me before and I pray that it will never happen again. It's something that is inexcusable, really, and was a bad mistake. I take full responsibility for that.....

"For right now, I'm the guy. But by no means do I have the spot just yet. There are a lot of punters out there and I still have to prove myself. I still have to earn this job."

There YOU have it !!

GO PACK GO !! FAN FAITH !!!

Homer Jay
08-21-2006, 11:36 PM
Naming the starters now can do nothing but help. Give them the reps and get them ready for the Bears. Let them begin getting accustomed to working as a unit.

woodbuck27
08-21-2006, 11:39 PM
Naming the starters now can do nothing but help. Give them the reps and get them ready for the Bears. Let them begin getting accustomed to working as a unit.

Big time. :mrgreen:

Packers ! FAN FAITH in 2006 !!

Joemailman
08-21-2006, 11:50 PM
Nice to see a coach not afraid to pull the trigger. Sherman's indecisiveness on naming his starting guards last year was a mistake that haunted the team all year.

OS PA
08-22-2006, 04:42 AM
Sad too see Colledge as a OG bust though.

TravisWilliams23
08-22-2006, 06:25 AM
I wouldn't call Colledge a bust just yet.
If you remember, it took Mike Wahle a few years to
"get it" but when he finally did, he was solid.
Give him some time. He's only into the 2nd preseason
game of his career.

Rastak
08-22-2006, 07:12 AM
Nice to see a coach not afraid to pull the trigger. Sherman's indecisiveness on naming his starting guards last year was a mistake that haunted the team all year.


I totally agree. Much smarter move by the Pack this year.

Iron Mike
08-22-2006, 08:38 AM
Hey, are the Packers the only NFL team with an all-white guy OL???? :neutral:

Partial
08-22-2006, 08:41 AM
:sad: owned for hotlinking

swede
08-22-2006, 09:24 AM
I agree that Colledge may be fine down the road. Or he may be another Jon Michaels that gets pushed around for three years until he becomes a gym teacher somewhere.

I am heartened by the fact that the coaching staff made a decisive adjustment after the first preseason game which seemed to have made a positive difference. Given the win-loss pedigree of this coaching staff I'll grasp at any tidbit that shows that they know what the hell they're doing!

The fact that Tony Moll is the one providing some energy and toughness to the Offensive line is somewhat amusing to me since he had few supporters on draft day, including me. Colledge was big, athletic, and lean. Moll seemed to be eating his way from 250 lbs to 300 lbs and looked soft.

He is almost as much of a surprise as Tauscher was.

pittstang5
08-22-2006, 09:38 AM
It's nice that MM has set the line now as opposed to two days before the Bears come to town, but I'm not sold on this line.

Moll starting scares me. It's crazy to think that a college TE last year, gains 50 lbs to play tackle and is going to be a starting guard in the NFL. He's never played guard in his life and all of a sudden he's beating out all the other prospects on the Packers roster to start at the RG position. Not to take anything away from the kid, but this is unheard of. I agree he did ok against Atlanta's DTs, which imo are nothing to write home about, but he is going to get schooled when they play Chicago. I'll be rooting for the kid, but I don't think he keeps his job all season long.

On another note, I've got some questions that I'd love to ask the coaching staff. What was all the hype with Coston in the off season? Surley if he was half as good as the coaches raved about, why is he not starting at RG.

Green Bud Packer
08-22-2006, 09:46 AM
i give a thumbs up to the rookie head coach for this one. good move mac. it will be interesting to see how the team responds to a big "w" come saturday.will they let their guard down and stink up the joint or will they come out fired and hungry for more?

Patler
08-22-2006, 10:01 AM
On another note, I've got some questions that I'd love to ask the coaching staff. What was all the hype with Coston in the off season? Surley if he was half as good as the coaches raved about, why is he not starting at RG.

Keep one thing in mind, Coston is over a year younger than Colledge, he is almost a year younger than Spitz, he is even several months younger than Moll. They said last year that he still had a teenager's body, and would take some time to mature.

I'm not saying age is everything, some people mature physically much earlier than others. But I wouldn't give up on Coston just yet. Not for another year at least. Mike Wahle was a younger guy too when he first got to Green Bay, and it took him until his fourth season before he became established as a starter. They couldn't decide if he was a guard or a tackle either, just like what is happening with Coston.

As for Moll, if he is just "adequate" this year, it will be a pretty amazing story.

Partial
08-22-2006, 10:09 AM
It's nice that MM has set the line now as opposed to two days before the Bears come to town, but I'm not sold on this line.

Moll starting scares me. It's crazy to think that a college TE last year, gains 50 lbs to play tackle and is going to be a starting guard in the NFL. He's never played guard in his life and all of a sudden he's beating out all the other prospects on the Packers roster to start at the RG position. Not to take anything away from the kid, but this is unheard of. I agree he did ok against Atlanta's DTs, which imo are nothing to write home about, but he is going to get schooled when they play Chicago. I'll be rooting for the kid, but I don't think he keeps his job all season long.

On another note, I've got some questions that I'd love to ask the coaching staff. What was all the hype with Coston in the off season? Surley if he was half as good as the coaches raved about, why is he not starting at RG.

Coleman has had 10.5 and 11.5 sacks the past two seasons. For a DT, thats very impressive. He's a great player.

pittstang5
08-22-2006, 10:24 AM
It's nice that MM has set the line now as opposed to two days before the Bears come to town, but I'm not sold on this line.

Moll starting scares me. It's crazy to think that a college TE last year, gains 50 lbs to play tackle and is going to be a starting guard in the NFL. He's never played guard in his life and all of a sudden he's beating out all the other prospects on the Packers roster to start at the RG position. Not to take anything away from the kid, but this is unheard of. I agree he did ok against Atlanta's DTs, which imo are nothing to write home about, but he is going to get schooled when they play Chicago. I'll be rooting for the kid, but I don't think he keeps his job all season long.

On another note, I've got some questions that I'd love to ask the coaching staff. What was all the hype with Coston in the off season? Surley if he was half as good as the coaches raved about, why is he not starting at RG.

Coleman has had 10.5 and 11.5 sacks the past two seasons. For a DT, thats very impressive. He's a great player.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, I haven't re-watch the tape, but I don't think Coleman played all that much. However, the point of my thread wasn't to take anything away from the Atlanta Line or Coleman personally. But compared to Chicago's line, well, there is no comparison. My point is, Moll is inexperienced for his body and the position. This scares me. But, I'm not an expert and I rely on the coaches to put the best players on the field. I'm just really surprised that Moll is starting where he is.

pittstang5
08-22-2006, 10:37 AM
On another note, I've got some questions that I'd love to ask the coaching staff. What was all the hype with Coston in the off season? Surley if he was half as good as the coaches raved about, why is he not starting at RG.

Keep one thing in mind, Coston is over a year younger than Colledge, he is almost a year younger than Spitz, he is even several months younger than Moll. They said last year that he still had a teenager's body, and would take some time to mature.

I'm not saying age is everything, some people mature physically much earlier than others. But I wouldn't give up on Coston just yet. Not for another year at least. Mike Wahle was a younger guy too when he first got to Green Bay, and it took him until his fourth season before he became established as a starter. They couldn't decide if he was a guard or a tackle either, just like what is happening with Coston.

As for Moll, if he is just "adequate" this year, it will be a pretty amazing story.

Patler, as usual, your depth of knowledge is appreciated. I did not realize Coston was so young. And please don't take my post as I'm giving up on Coston. I'm just surprised about all the hype and now he's been bounced around from position to position.

Not being anywhere near GB, I rely on camp reports and Coach interviews. Granted, coaches are going to hype up their players and maybe I'm a little naive to believe every word they say, but I thought the consensus was, Coston looks great, is versatile and would be starting. Didn't Jags even say he wanted to draft him last year? I'm really shocked that Moll is starting and not Coston.

MuttnJeff
08-22-2006, 10:39 AM
, but he is going to get schooled when they play Chicago. I'll be rooting for the kid, but I don't think he keeps his job all season long.

Who would they replace Moll with? Whittiker? Moll has only had 5 practices at RG before playing in a game. He will get better, and will be their best option, even if he struggles against the best DTs.

HarveyWallbangers
08-22-2006, 10:58 AM
However, the point of my thread wasn't to take anything away from the Atlanta Line or Coleman personally. But compared to Chicago's line, well, there is no comparison.

Atlanta's line might be darn good this year. Coleman is the best pass rushing DT in the league. Now, they have John Abraham to pair with Patrick Kerney. I don't think you can draw much of a conclusion from a few series in a meaningless preseason game though.

woodbuck27
08-22-2006, 11:19 AM
Hey, are the Packers the only NFL team with an all-white guy OL???? :neutral:

Interesting question Iron Mike. Someone here will likely answer that.

PACKERS FAN FAITH !!

Partial
08-22-2006, 12:31 PM
It's nice that MM has set the line now as opposed to two days before the Bears come to town, but I'm not sold on this line.

Moll starting scares me. It's crazy to think that a college TE last year, gains 50 lbs to play tackle and is going to be a starting guard in the NFL. He's never played guard in his life and all of a sudden he's beating out all the other prospects on the Packers roster to start at the RG position. Not to take anything away from the kid, but this is unheard of. I agree he did ok against Atlanta's DTs, which imo are nothing to write home about, but he is going to get schooled when they play Chicago. I'll be rooting for the kid, but I don't think he keeps his job all season long.

On another note, I've got some questions that I'd love to ask the coaching staff. What was all the hype with Coston in the off season? Surley if he was half as good as the coaches raved about, why is he not starting at RG.

Coleman has had 10.5 and 11.5 sacks the past two seasons. For a DT, thats very impressive. He's a great player.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, I haven't re-watch the tape, but I don't think Coleman played all that much. However, the point of my thread wasn't to take anything away from the Atlanta Line or Coleman personally. But compared to Chicago's line, well, there is no comparison. My point is, Moll is inexperienced for his body and the position. This scares me. But, I'm not an expert and I rely on the coaches to put the best players on the field. I'm just really surprised that Moll is starting where he is.

Damn right no comparison, Atlanta's might be better! :razz:

Partial
08-22-2006, 12:33 PM
Hey, are the Packers the only NFL team with an all-white guy OL???? :neutral:

Interesting question Iron Mike. Someone here will likely answer that.

PACKERS FAN FAITH !!

No, they're not all white. The have Mark "Dark Chocolate" Tauscher starting on the edge! Duh!

woodbuck27
08-22-2006, 01:29 PM
Hey, are the Packers the only NFL team with an all-white guy OL???? :neutral:

Interesting question Iron Mike. Someone here will likely answer that.

PACKERS FAN FAITH !!

No, they're not all white. The have Mark "Dark Chocolate" Tauscher starting on the edge! Duh!

Are you serious Partial?

I'm partial - to discussing skin color and ability to do/at anything.

GO PACK GO ! FAN FAITH in 2006 !!

Astonishment
08-22-2006, 01:49 PM
Overall I think this is a good move by MM, but I hope he is willing to adjust if this line doesn't show improvement through the first couple weeks of the season.