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denverYooper
01-09-2013, 04:57 PM
Nice chart in Dallas News (rt'd by Wilde)

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/databases/20130109-nfl-team-by-team-injuries-can-cowboys-use-health-as-an-excuse.ece



Team Made Playoffs Games 16g IR Key injury games
1. San Fran Yes 8 17 1 WR Mario Manningham 4
2. Seattle Yes 11 13 0 G James Carpenter 5
3. New Orleans 20 11 1 LB Jonathan Vilma 4
4. Chicago 23 7 2 G Chilo Rachal 6
5. Miami 23 16 3 CB Richard Marshall 12
6. Houston Yes 24 11 1 LB Brian Cushing 11
7. Minnesota Yes 24 12 1 WR Percy Harvin 7
8. St. Louis 24 10 1 C Scott Wells 9
9. New England Yes 27 7 0 G Logan Mankins 6
10. Atlanta Yes 33 10 2 CB Brent Grimes 15
11. NY Giants 38 9 1 S Kenny Phillips 9
12. San Diego 42 9 6 OT Jared Gaither 12
13. Baltimore Yes 46 8 2 LB Ray Lewis 10
14. NY Jets 47 9 3 CB Darrelle Revis 14
15. Oakland 47 8 1 CB Shawntee Spencer 14
16. Tampa Bay 48 12 4 G Davin Joseph 16
17. Arizona 49 7 3 OT Levi Brown 16
18. Cleveland 49 8 4 LB Chris Gocong 16
19. Tennessee 51 7 5 C Eugene Amano 16
20. Denver Yes 52 9 4 DT Ty Warren 15
21. Pittsburgh 52 8 5 S Troy Polamalu 9
22. Buffalo 55 10 5 WR David Nelson 15
23. Cincinnati Yes 56 10 3 LB Thomas Howard 15
24. Kansas City 56 5 4 C Rodney Hudson 13
25. Philadelph 63 6 6 OT Jason Peters 16
26. Carolina 65 6 6 CB Chris Gamble 12
27. Indianapolis Yes 66 5 2 G Seth Olsen 11
28. Detroit 69 10 6 HB Jahvid Best 16
29. Jax'ville 69 7 6 G Will Rackley 16
30. Cowboys 71 8 5 S Barry Church 13
31. Washington Yes 75 13 4 OT Jammal Brown 16
32. Green Bay Yes 83 8 4 LB Desmond Bishop 16


Notes:
Games - Starter Games Lost
IR - starters on IR
16g - 16 game starters

Notice #1 v #32 :)...

As for good uses of twitter, I tweeted the author of the article that the IR numbers weren't squaring up with pro-football-reference, and he responded that the IR and 16g columns were flipped. Apparently he fixed it bc the link looks better now :).

red
01-09-2013, 05:20 PM
thats depressing

we have a lot more then 4 on the IR don't we? or is the whole chart just for starters?

red
01-09-2013, 05:20 PM
nvm, it is just starters

thats really depressing

Guiness
01-09-2013, 05:38 PM
Quite a list of teams with 6 starters on IR - San Diego, Philly, Jax, Carolina and Detroit. We have the most starter games lost though.

NE and Sea with no starters lost to IR. Charmed life.

Bossman641
01-09-2013, 06:33 PM
Wow that is depressing.

mraynrand
01-09-2013, 11:00 PM
Quite a list of teams with 6 starters on IR - San Diego, Philly, Jax, Carolina and Detroit. We have the most starter games lost though.

NE and Sea with no starters lost to IR. Charmed life.

not anymore

denverYooper
01-10-2013, 07:56 AM
not anymore

No kidding. 2 big ones in the first game of the playoffs. Clemons almost singlehandedly wrecked the Packers in their first game.

Tony Oday
01-10-2013, 09:39 AM
I would submit that as long as the one guy doesnt get hurt we will make the playoffs 90% of the time...we just need the rest of the team healthy at playoff time.

PaCkFan_n_MD
01-10-2013, 10:33 AM
It seems like for the last couple years we are always the most injured team in the league. The 2011 season wasn't as bad in terms of number of players injured, but we did lose Collins for career in week 2 which made us a much weaker defense that year and this year as well. Teams like the 49ers, Seahawks, among others, don't have nearly as many injuries as we do. The defense would be a lot stronger if we had Collins, Bishop, and Perry added to the current group.

I think its about time the other teams start losing key players and we stay healthy for a while :)

Pugger
01-10-2013, 10:40 AM
I'm really starting to wonder what in the hell is going at 1265 that we have these injury issues. Yes, every team has injuries but it seems like we keep having more than our fair share. :(

denverYooper
01-10-2013, 02:23 PM
It seems like for the last couple years we are always the most injured team in the league. The 2011 season wasn't as bad in terms of number of players injured, but we did lose Collins for career in week 2 which made us a much weaker defense that year and this year as well. Teams like the 49ers, Seahawks, among others, don't have nearly as many injuries as we do. The defense would be a lot stronger if we had Collins, Bishop, and Perry added to the current group.

I think its about time the other teams start losing key players and we stay healthy for a while :)

It'd be interesting to look at multi-year injury trends because it sure does seem like GB gets it worse than others. I'm not sure if that is due to their handling of injury or just a recent run of bad injury luck in the last 2 of 3 years.

The injuries to the Packers never seem to work out terribly for them, though. Maybe it's just a roundabout way to promote the young up-and-comers ;), though I think that argument falls apart when you look at Collins's or Bishop's backups.

sharpe1027
01-10-2013, 03:50 PM
I'm really starting to wonder what in the hell is going at 1265 that we have these injury issues. Yes, every team has injuries but it seems like we keep having more than our fair share. :(

The fault lies squarely with TT for drafting injury prone guys.

smuggler
01-11-2013, 11:01 AM
You typically don't know how injury-prone a player is until he plays in the NFL.

Zool
01-11-2013, 12:05 PM
You typically don't know how injury-prone a player is until he plays in the NFL.

I think he was joking.

mraynrand
01-11-2013, 12:10 PM
I think he was joking.


I think he was joking

sharpe1027
01-11-2013, 12:13 PM
I think he was joking

I think I was joking.

Zool
01-11-2013, 12:15 PM
Was I joking too? Very confused now.

denverYooper
01-11-2013, 12:15 PM
I think I was joking.

I think you were joking.

pbmax
01-11-2013, 12:17 PM
You typically don't know how injury-prone a player is until he plays in the NFL.

We had a poster, might still have him, who insisted it is a rule that any player who has a history of two major injuries (even if they are to minor body parts :lol: ) had to be ignored as a rule. They claimed this explained the colossal error that was the Justin Harrell pick. Everyone in the NFL knew this rule except Ted.

denverYooper
01-11-2013, 12:19 PM
We had a poster, might still have him, who insisted it is a rule that any player who has a history of two major injuries (even if they are to minor body parts :lol: ) had to be ignored as a rule. They claimed this explained the colossal error that was the Justin Harrell pick. Everyone in the NFL knew this rule except Ted.

Ted is not one of those crazy stat heads. Everyone knows he just falls in love with how a guy looks in shorts :lol:

sharpe1027
01-11-2013, 12:28 PM
We had a poster, might still have him, who insisted it is a rule that any player who has a history of two major injuries (even if they are to minor body parts :lol: ) had to be ignored as a rule. They claimed this explained the colossal error that was the Justin Harrell pick. Everyone in the NFL knew this rule except Ted.

I remember a similar discussion. I've always wanted to see evidence of a statistical correlation between past injuries and future injuries. I would guess that you might find it for certain, related injuries. For example, some injuries may never lead to a full recovery - thus there is an increased chance of re-injury. However, the above premise is that any injury history can predict future injuries that are totally unrelated. For example, Harrell's back injury was predicted because he tore his bicep in college.

At this point it is nothing more than a random theory without anything to back it up.

denverYooper
01-11-2013, 12:52 PM
I remember a similar discussion. I've always wanted to see evidence of a statistical correlation between past injuries and future injuries. I would guess that you might find it for certain, related injuries. For example, some injuries may never lead to a full recovery - thus there is an increased chance of re-injury. However, the above premise is that any injury history can predict future injuries that are totally unrelated. For example, Harrell's back injury was predicted because he tore his bicep in college.

At this point it is nothing more than a random theory without anything to back it up.

Fucking Rock Gullickson.

mraynrand
01-11-2013, 01:03 PM
Was I joking too? Very confused now.

Stop joking off!

mraynrand
01-11-2013, 01:04 PM
I remember a similar discussion. I've always wanted to see evidence of a statistical correlation between past injuries and future injuries. I would guess that you might find it for certain, related injuries. For example, some injuries may never lead to a full recovery - thus there is an increased chance of re-injury. However, the above premise is that any injury history can predict future injuries that are totally unrelated. For example, Harrell's back injury was predicted because he tore his bicep in college.

At this point it is nothing more than a random theory without anything to back it up.

I see what you did there.

Zool
01-11-2013, 01:35 PM
Stop joking off!

Is that why my eye-sight is going to shit?

sharpe1027
01-11-2013, 01:36 PM
I see what you did there.

I am glad you saw it. I completely missed it.

Guiness
01-11-2013, 02:29 PM
I remember a similar discussion. I've always wanted to see evidence of a statistical correlation between past injuries and future injuries. I would guess that you might find it for certain, related injuries. For example, some injuries may never lead to a full recovery - thus there is an increased chance of re-injury. However, the above premise is that any injury history can predict future injuries that are totally unrelated. For example, Harrell's back injury was predicted because he tore his bicep in college.

At this point it is nothing more than a random theory without anything to back it up.

Yup, all kinds of random. To try and pretend you can figure it out is crazy, there is so much that is just a fluke. Collin's injury is exhibit A. An obvious exception the other way is knees - if a guy has had a few knee injuries, you have to be all kinds of careful. Jason White comes to mind...

sharpe1027
01-11-2013, 02:57 PM
Adrian Peterson: injury #1 LCL; injury #2 collar bone. Must be ignored and a colossal error.

Freak Out
01-11-2013, 03:21 PM
Rodgers was injury prone....now isn't. Hooray!

sharpe1027
01-11-2013, 04:16 PM
Rodgers was injury prone....now isn't. Hooray!

And there was much rejoicing.

Didn't Favre have the same degenerative hip condition that ended Bo Jackson's career? Injury prone!

Patler
01-11-2013, 06:18 PM
Anthony Munoz had three knee surgeries in college. Sure was a mistake drafting the Hall of Famer.

pbmax
01-11-2013, 07:59 PM
Anthony Munoz had three knee surgeries in college. Sure was a mistake drafting the Hall of Famer.

The rumor/tall tale was that Munoz broke the Cybex machine that was testing his knee.