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Bretsky
04-25-2013, 10:55 PM
I will start with a few

Jonathon Cyprien S
Eddie Lacy RB
Monte Ball RB
Mentalik Watson OT
Kevin Minter--- LB
DJ Swearninger S
Terron Armstead OT
Brandon Williams DL
Jonathon Jenkins DL
Brian Schwenke C
Jonathon Hankins DL
Zach Ertz TE

red
04-25-2013, 11:08 PM
i don't want another DL in round two

or ball

the rest of those guys a wouldn't mind. but it is the second round, it's the WR round for ted

Joemailman
04-25-2013, 11:11 PM
Jonathan Hankins
Quinton Patton
Kevin Minter
Jesse Williams
Zach Ertz

Bretsky
04-25-2013, 11:14 PM
i don't want another DL in round two

or ball

the rest of those guys a wouldn't mind. but it is the second round, it's the WR round for ted


I don't know dude.....Raji .....if going after next year....we still need talent there so if the right guy is there grab him. Ball would b a great fit but I don't think TT will nab him.

Carolina_Packer
04-25-2013, 11:16 PM
I will start with a few

Jonathon Cyprien S
Eddie Lacy RB
Monte Ball RB
Mentalik Watson OT
Kevin Minter--- LB
DJ Swearninger S
Terron Armstead OT
Brandon Williams DL
Jonathon Jenkins DL
Brian Schwenke C

When the Packers pick next, many of these guys will be off the board. I think the ones who might still be there are Schwenke (would be great), Armstead (don't know much about except he ran a fast 40 time at the combine), and Montee Ball (he might be available near 55, according to Mayock's Top 100)

If you look at Mayock's Top 100 (http://fansided.com/2013/04/23/nfl-draft-2013-mike-mayocks-top-100-prospects-unveiled/) there is some really intriguing talent that is still left on the board in advance of picks 55 and 88.

Carolina_Packer
04-25-2013, 11:23 PM
Reading Mayock's Top 100, and seeing what's left, can you imagine getting Schwenke at 55 and Jesse Williams at 88...man that would be awesome. Pickett is not getting any younger and Raji might not last beyond this year. If there weren't injury concerns about Barrett Jones, would anyone like him more than Schwenke?

pbmax
04-25-2013, 11:27 PM
I don't know dude.....Raji .....if going after next year....we still need talent there so if the right guy is there grab him. Ball would b a great fit but I don't think TT will nab him.

I agree but unless someone they love drops, there are other needs for this year. I think they could use another somewhere, but for the roster, it would be best he could be stashed on the PS.

Bretsky
04-25-2013, 11:30 PM
Reading Mayock's Top 100, and seeing what's left, can you imagine getting Schwenke at 55 and Jesse Williams at 88...man that would be awesome. Pickett is not getting any younger and Raji might not last beyond this year. If there weren't injury concerns about Barrett Jones, would anyone like him more than Schwenke?

In our offense I like Schwenke a lot more than Jones....and probably Frederick to be honest. That would be amazing getting both of them

3irty1
04-25-2013, 11:43 PM
My favorites for us tomorrow:

Dave Amerson, CB (S for us)
Dwayne Gratz, CB (S for us)
Aaron Dobson, WR

Joemailman
04-25-2013, 11:52 PM
Mayock's Best Available:

18. Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
21. Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
23. Manti Te’o, ILB, Notre Dame
31. Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
32. Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
33. Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
34. Kevin Minter,ILB, LSU
36. Arthur Brown, ILB, Kansas State
37. Keenan Allen, WR, California
38. Jonathan Cyprien, FS, Florida International
39. Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
40. Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
43. Matt Barkley, QB, USC
45. Robert Woods, WR, USC
46. Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
47. Larry Warford,, OG, Kentucky
48. Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
49. Jamie Collins, OLB, Southern Mississippi
50. Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse
51. Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State
52. Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin
53. Terrance Williams,, WR, Baylor
54. Cornelius Washington, OLB, Georgia
55. Brian Schwenke, C, California
56. Tank Carradine, DE, Florida State
57. D.J. Swearinger, SS, South Carolina
58. Jonathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
59. Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State
60. Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall
61. Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas-Pine Bluff
62. Bennie Logan, DT, LSU
63. Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina
64. Sio Moore, OLB, Connecticut
65. Jon Bostic, OLB, Florida
66. Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, Connecticut
67. B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary
68. J.J. Wilcox, FS, Georgia Southern
69. Khaseem Greene, OLB, Rutgers
70. Brian Winters, OG, Kent
71. John Jenkins, DT, Georgia
72. Dwayne Gratz, CB, Connecticut
73. Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia
74. Robert Alford, CB, Southeastern Louisiana
75. Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson
76. Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State
77. William Gholston, DE, Michigan State
78. Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech
79. Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
80. Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati
81. Mike Glennon, QB, North Carolina State
82. David Bakhtiari, OT, Colorado
83. Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern State
84. David Quessenberry, OT, San Jose State
85. Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
86. Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee
87. Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M
88. Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State
89. John Simon, DT, Ohio State
90. Dallas Thomas, OT, Tennessee
91. Barrett Jones, OG, Alabama
93. Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas
94. Le’Veon Bell, RB, Michigan State
95. Shamarko Thomas, SS, Syracuse
96. Vance McDonald, TE, Rice
97. Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
98. Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU
99. David Amerson, CB, North Carolina State
100. Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA

RashanGary
04-25-2013, 11:56 PM
I don't know many of the players in this years draft, but I like Giovanni Bernard a lot. Later in the draft, I'm a big fan of Rontez Miles at safety.

Packgator
04-25-2013, 11:56 PM
I will start with a few

Jonathon Cyprien S
Eddie Lacy RB
Monte Ball RB
Mentalik Watson OT
Kevin Minter--- LB
DJ Swearninger S
Terron Armstead OT
Brandon Williams DL
Jonathon Jenkins DL
Brian Schwenke C
Jonathon Hankins DL
Zach Ertz TE

Be nice if Cyprien would be around for the Packers.

smuggler
04-25-2013, 11:58 PM
Mayock's Best Available:

18. Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
31. Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
36. Arthur Brown, ILB, Kansas State
37. Keenan Allen, WR, California
39. Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
40. Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
43. Matt Barkley, QB, USC
55. Brian Schwenke, C, California
56. Tank Carradine, DE, Florida State
57. D.J. Swearinger, SS, South Carolina


Probably these dudes. If Geno falls, maybe we can swindle a team out of $$PICKS$$


I don't know many of the players in this years draft, but I like Giovanni Bernard a lot.

Gio is probably looking at 3rd round, same timeframe as Ball.

rbaloha1
04-26-2013, 12:03 AM
Jesse Williams
Hunt
Lacy

RashanGary
04-26-2013, 12:06 AM
I like Ball and Bernard. . . Bernard a little more because he's fast.

rbaloha1
04-26-2013, 12:27 AM
TEO

smuggler
04-26-2013, 12:44 AM
Fuck that. Why would we cut DJ Smith for being undersized and struggling in coverage to draft a slower, more scrutiny-riddled player in Te'o? He's not even that stout at the point of attack. If you want a hole-plugger, why not just come out and say 'Minter'?

rbaloha1
04-26-2013, 12:46 AM
Fuck that. Why would we cut DJ Smith for being undersized and struggling in coverage to draft a slower, more scrutiny-riddled player in Te'o? He's not even that stout at the point of attack. If you want a hole-plugger, why not just come out and say 'Minter'?

Teo would be an upgrade over Hawk in terms of leadership and playing with recklessness.

Reminds me of Lofa Tatupu. NFL network people say demarco ryans (unsure about that)

smuggler
04-26-2013, 12:48 AM
Hah. Fuck Te'o and Lofa. They suck. At least Hawk is decent.

rbaloha1
04-26-2013, 12:51 AM
Hah. Fuck Te'o and Lofa. They suck. At least Hawk is decent.

Lofa was a pro bowler.

how do you know teo sucks when he has not played in the nfl yet?

smuggler
04-26-2013, 01:01 AM
How do you know teo doesn't suck "when he has not played int he nfl yet?"

He's from Notre Dame
His measurables are mediocre and even below average for his size
He is a 2 down player in a league that uses those players in fewer and fewer situations (see: AJ Hawk)
He lacks the toughness that you lust over
He has marginal range for an undersized ILB

rbaloha1
04-26-2013, 01:03 AM
How do you know teo doesn't suck "when he has not played int he nfl yet?"

so what is the answer einstein?

smuggler
04-26-2013, 01:08 AM
Fuck you, you dense motherfucker.

rbaloha1
04-26-2013, 01:10 AM
Fuck you, you dense motherfucker.

do you need a hug?

rbaloha1
04-26-2013, 01:11 AM
How do you know teo doesn't suck "when he has not played int he nfl yet?"

He's from Notre Dame
His measurables are mediocre and even below average for his size
He is a 2 down player in a league that uses those players in fewer and fewer situations (see: AJ Hawk)
He lacks the toughness that you lust over
He has marginal range for an undersized ILB

Mayock called him a 3 down backer.

7 interceptions last year

where is the lack of toughness? can you beat him up?

smuggler
04-26-2013, 01:15 AM
Of his 7 interceptions, 5 came off deflections. So he can catch. That's nice. So his lone plus would be hands/intangibles? Mayock is a decent player analyst, but he's blowing smoke about Te'o being a 3 down player.

I don't know him personally, and I'm sure he's a nice guy, but the purported leadership is pretty dubious considering his whole GF fiasco. In general, I would overlook that shit, but can his teammates?

rbaloha1
04-26-2013, 01:17 AM
Of his 7 interceptions, 5 came off deflections. So he can catch. That's nice. So his lone plus would be hands/intangibles? Mayock is a decent player analyst, but he's blowing smoke about Te'o being a 3 down player.

I don't know him personally, and I'm sure he's a nice guy, but the purported leadership is pretty dubious considering his whole GF fiasco. In general, I would overlook that shit, but can his teammates?

you know more than mayock? do you want his e-mail address?

smuggler
04-26-2013, 01:18 AM
"What's that you say? Someone disagrees with a professional scout? Well this cannot stand! This is preposterous! I, rbaloham, will not allow this to continue!! GET MAYOCK ON THE LINE, I NEED HIM TO KNOW I AM WHITEKNIGHTING HIM!"

RashanGary
04-26-2013, 01:19 AM
We don't know how good Teo will be. Whether or not one of us could beat him up doesn't mean much to whether he's NFL tough. Shit, you two, go watch porn or something :)

rbaloha1
04-26-2013, 01:20 AM
"What's that you say? Someone disagrees with a professional scout? Well this cannot stand! This is preposterous! I, rbaloham, will not allow this to continue!! GET MAYOCK ON THE LINE, I NEED HIM TO KNOW I AM WHITEKNIGHTING HIM!"

https://twitter.com/Mike_Mayock

smuggler
04-26-2013, 01:24 AM
Thanks for that, troll.

VegasPackFan
04-26-2013, 01:39 AM
Let the Bears take Teo and fail at another ND prospect that's overrated and ends up sucking in the pros. HA HAA!

packrulz
04-26-2013, 05:09 AM
Brian Schwenke, C, California
Jonathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin
Bennie Logan, DT, LSU
John Jenkins, DT, Georgia
David Quessenberry, OT, San Jose State
Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, Connecticut
Kiko Alonso, ILB, Oregon
Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M
Bacarri Rambo, FS, Georgia

pbmax
04-26-2013, 07:51 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

3irty1
04-26-2013, 08:04 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

I was doing this a few months ago, posting wiki articles about logical fallacies as they were used that is. I was bummed it never caught on.

Fritz
04-26-2013, 08:07 AM
PB, you're not saying the draftniks and local writers don't know diddly about judging college players, are you?

No, wait, that's what Ted said last year.

Guiness
04-26-2013, 08:11 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

Oh, oh! Do the straw man next, in honour of Tyronne:twisted:

Guiness
04-26-2013, 08:15 AM
PB, you're not saying the draftniks and local writers don't know diddly about judging college players, are you?

No, wait, that's what Ted said last year.

Ah, but, was he lying, à la Wolf in '95? Because that would, yet again, be an Argument from Authority :flm:

dammit you guys, I'm supposed to be working!

pbmax
04-26-2013, 08:17 AM
Oh, oh! Do the straw man next, in honour of Tyronne:twisted:

I don't care which questionable arguing strategy a poster uses, just make it your own!

Fritz
04-26-2013, 08:31 AM
Ah, but, was he lying, à la Wolf in '95? Because that would, yet again, be an Argument from Authority :flm:

dammit you guys, I'm supposed to be working!

But Ted, like God in the old Hebrew Franks commercials, is a higher authority.

run pMc
04-26-2013, 08:32 AM
Mayock's Best Available:

Thanks for posting. Going off Mayock's list, I'd like to see GB either go WR (K.Allen, R.Woods) or DL (Hankins, J.Williams). If Cyprien is still there at 55 I'll be surprised, but I'd be cool with that.

Depending on how R2 goes and if they're still there in R3 I like Amerson or Swearinger at S, Schwenke at C, Wheaton at WR, and Jenkins at DT.

pbmax
04-26-2013, 08:33 AM
Evan Silva has us with Franklin and Wilcox.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/43149/60/second-day-mock-draft?pg=1

Guiness
04-26-2013, 08:37 AM
I don't care which questionable arguing strategy a poster uses, just make it your own!

So many non sequitars, so little time. So, a fish!

run pMc
04-26-2013, 08:38 AM
Not a big fan of Te'o, I think he'll be ok in the pros. He needs a big DL to protect him or he'll get engulfed (as Alabama showed). He has coverage skills, range and instincts, but most think Ogletree, Brown and Minter are better. He strikes me as the kind of guy you can plug in at MLB and he'll do ok, but you're always looking to replace him. The "he's A.J. Hawk 2.0!" cries aren't far off.

I think someone will like him enough to take him in R2, probably before GB picks at 55. I can't see TT picking him -- if they're dumping D.J. Smith, ILB isn't a need and there are similarly graded players at other positions that would be a better fit.

pbmax
04-26-2013, 08:40 AM
Holy crap, Mike Silver is really trying to undermine Reggie McKenzie. Is he still made about Hue Jackson?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--raiders-sweat-it-out-on-draft-night-gamble-for-d-j--hayden-while-49ers-play-it-cool-in-getting-their-man-eric-reid-075049013.html


And given that Hayden, as one Raiders source put it, "was taken that high in exactly zero mock drafts," there didn't seem to be much danger of him being snatched up by another team selecting in the top 11.

Here is one: http://t.co/mplLx8z4n7

But what kind of team source trashes a pick the night of and uses mock draft to do it? Did the Packers leak a source that they were crazy for selecting Collins because no one saw him in the second round?

Time to clear out Al's leftovers.

Joemailman
04-26-2013, 08:46 AM
Evan Silva has us with Franklin and Wilcox.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/43149/60/second-day-mock-draft?pg=1

Not a big fan of Franklin in the 2nd round. Lots of speed, but not very solid in pass pro and receiving. Had fumbling issues in 2011. Rather have Ball or Taylor.

Guiness
04-26-2013, 08:52 AM
But Ted, like God in the old Hebrew Franks commercials, is a higher authority.

Is this a flavour of WWJD (What would Jesus do?)

I think Jesus would let the draft come to him. And if that means Lacy is a good value right now, he'd go get him!

HarveyWallbangers
04-26-2013, 10:49 AM
This is my rankings of guys left on the board:

RB Montee Ball
WR Keenan Allen
S Jonathon Cyprien
S J.J. Wilcox
TE Zach Ertz
RB Eddie Lacey
DT John Jenkins
OC Barrett Jones
WR Quinton Patton
WR Markus Wheaton
OC Brian Schwenke
WR Robert Woods
TE Gavin Escobar
DT Brandon Williams
DT Jesse Williams
DT Jonathan Hankins
S Phillip Thomas
S Shawn Williams
LB Jamie Collins
CB Darius Slay
CB Jonathan Banks
QB Tyler Wilson
QB Geno Smith
OT Menelik Watson
OT Terron Armstead
OG Brian Winters

rbaloha1
04-26-2013, 10:53 AM
Philip Thomas is big and a hitter. Great ball hawking skills.

Jennings as a center fielder is very limited.

wist43
04-26-2013, 11:00 AM
Sio Moore - move him inside. I think this guy is a hell of a football player.
Brandon Williams
Kevin Minter
Jonathan Hankins
Johnathan Cyprien (didn't look at him much though)
Quinton Patton
Brian Winters (maybe a 3rd rounder??)

Lot of good talent out there - deep draft.

Everyone is pissin' and moanin' about this being a lackluster draft - but this draft is deep at the grunt positions.

pbmax
04-26-2013, 11:08 AM
Packers supposedly in love with Minter

ND72
04-26-2013, 11:14 AM
I'd like to see a RB high sooner than later. This running back by committee BS is simply that. Give someone the rock and let him make it happen.

rbaloha1
04-26-2013, 11:15 AM
I'd like to see a RB high sooner than later. This running back by committee BS is simply that. Give someone the rock and let him make it happen.

lacy -- requires moving up

wist43
04-26-2013, 11:17 AM
Packers supposedly in love with Minter

Let's not go crazy here... not sure TT will get too carried away retooling the front seven.

wist43
04-26-2013, 11:24 AM
I'd like to see a RB high sooner than later. This running back by committee BS is simply that. Give someone the rock and let him make it happen.

I liked what I saw of Christine Michael (he'll likely be on the board a little further down) and Le'Veon Bell... we have Harris, and he's a pretty good scatback - something our offense has been lacking forever.

Fritz
04-26-2013, 11:29 AM
Packers supposedly in love with Minter


You have a source on that PB? And what's your take on Minter?

smuggler
04-26-2013, 11:36 AM
Word on the street is that Minter is a nice thumper and a reliable tackler, but he's got limited range and can't really cover much at all.

HarveyWallbangers
04-26-2013, 11:37 AM
Word on the street is that Minter is a nice thumper and a reliable tackler, but he's got limited range and can't really cover much at all.

And he's short. Isn't that what we basically have already?

wist43
04-26-2013, 11:44 AM
Packers supposedly in love with Minter

I like Minter - I think he's better than both of our ILB's now. I like Sio Moore better.

wist43
04-26-2013, 11:46 AM
And he's short. Isn't that what we basically have already?

Minter plays downhill and has better instincts than both of our starting ILB's.

Don't think he can play in the nickel though. I think Sio Moore can stay on the field full time, and he'd be a nightmare coming on the delayed blitz up the middle. Really like Moore, but only if we move him inside.

HarveyWallbangers
04-26-2013, 11:49 AM
I like Minter - I think he's better than both of our ILB's now. I like Sio Moore better.

The draft bio on Moore is very pedestrian athletically. He's on the small side and doesn't have a lot of quickness. What do you like about him?

Guiness
04-26-2013, 11:55 AM
And he's short. Isn't that what we basically have already?

Or what we just got rid of in DJ.

HarveyWallbangers
04-26-2013, 12:07 PM
Or what we just got rid of in DJ.

Well, he's not that short, but I think he might be shorter than Hawk. On a side note: it seems like the ILB group is shorter than normal. Most are in the acceptable but not ideal range (6'-6'1").

HarveyWallbangers
04-26-2013, 12:11 PM
I think Bishop is taller than all but 2-3 ILBs in this draft.

3irty1
04-26-2013, 12:11 PM
I'm on board with Wist's older crush, Kiko.

pbmax
04-26-2013, 12:24 PM
Let's not go crazy here... not sure TT will get too carried away retooling the front seven.

Maybe, but I got that rumor in two entirely separate sites. Did a lot of background on him.

pbmax
04-26-2013, 12:26 PM
You have a source on that PB? And what's your take on Minter?

That JerseyAL guy at AllGreenBayPackers.com was one. He has a bunch of writers all of whom could be Joe Arrigo for all I know, but he has had some good draft info before.

The other was Huber at Packers Report, the Scouts Inc. outlet for the Pack.

I have only heard his name. If I have seen him play, I did not know it was him.

Fritz
04-26-2013, 02:24 PM
There are so many good players sitting out there, it's going to be hard to wait and wait and wait to get to the Packers' pick. Maybe I'll just tune in around pick #24.

And if Monte Hall is there and the Pack don't take him, Bretsky will sigh heavily and many Rats will throw things against walls.

rbaloha1
04-26-2013, 02:26 PM
There are so many good players sitting out there, it's going to be hard to wait and wait and wait to get to the Packers' pick. Maybe I'll just tune in around pick #24.

And if Monte Hall is there and the Pack don't take him, Bretsky will sigh heavily and many Rats will throw things against walls.

i shall duck since it is not happening

wist43
04-26-2013, 02:27 PM
The draft bio on Moore is very pedestrian athletically. He's on the small side and doesn't have a lot of quickness. What do you like about him?

Plays faster and bigger than his measurables. Beat Terron Armstead for a sack in the Senior Bowl, and looked good doing it. Gets low, plays with good leverage, takes good angles, has good instincts, is a good tackler... tough and physical, and despite his lack of height, he's a pretty damn good pass rusher.

He's slated to go in the 2nd round in a lot of mocks - he's not a reach taking him at 55. Dane Brugler at cbssportsline has him going Rd 2, #49 to the NY Giants.

Kid is a good football player.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvnFHgq2pS8

pittstang5
04-26-2013, 02:30 PM
I like what I read about S. Moore.

I have no clue who TT may go after in 2 & 3. Guys I like:

Marcus Hunt - DE
Travis Kelce - TE
Gavin Escobar - TE
Quinton Patton - WR
Brandon Williams - DT
Jamie Collins - OLB
Brian Schwenke - OL
Barrett Jones - OL

wist43
04-26-2013, 02:31 PM
There are so many good players sitting out there, it's going to be hard to wait and wait and wait to get to the Packers' pick. Maybe I'll just tune in around pick #24.

And if Monte Hall is there and the Pack don't take him, Bretsky will sigh heavily and many Rats will throw things against walls.

And here I don't even have Monte Hall on my radar... I mean good grief, he's gotta be 80 years old by now isn't he??

He was 60 when Let's Make a Deal went off the air, and he was fading fast then.

No, I'll pass on Monte Hall ;)

3irty1
04-26-2013, 02:36 PM
Sio Moore's Measureables are more weird than bad. I'd say he's a rush linebacker at the next level and not an ILB. He jumped like a gazelle and has a really special combo of length and power (34" arms with 29 reps). But his agility drills and stuff are on the lousy side. 4.31 ss and 7.49 3-cone. Yuck.

I think this is a guy you want to put in a position to take on lineman on a regular basis and far away from an area where he might have to cover someone. He seems like a 3-4 outside linebacker.

wist43
04-26-2013, 02:49 PM
Sio Moore's Measureables are more weird than bad. I'd say he's a rush linebacker at the next level and not an ILB. He jumped like a gazelle and has a really special combo of length and power (34" arms with 29 reps). But his agility drills and stuff are on the lousy side. 4.31 ss and 7.49 3-cone. Yuck.

I think this is a guy you want to put in a position to take on lineman on a regular basis and far away from an area where he might have to cover someone. He seems like a 3-4 outside linebacker.

Yeah, a lot of people are projecting him to the weakside in a 4-3, but I can see him being a damn good ILB in a 3-4.

I like a few of the ILB's, but nobody is really special... I was looking for a hybrid kind of guy to move inside. I want more size and explosion at that position. Moore is an explosive player... I know his agility numbers aren't pretty, but I think what you see of him on film is enough to project him to just about any LB spot you want.

Like I said, the kid is a good football player, with good instincts. Instincts and good game tape trump his agility drill numbers.

If you went by his workout numbers, he probably wouldn't be more than a late round pick... but he's a better player than that.

3irty1
04-26-2013, 02:58 PM
Yeah, a lot of people are projecting him to the weakside in a 4-3, but I can see him being a damn good ILB in a 3-4.

I like a few of the ILB's, but nobody is really special... I was looking for a hybrid kind of guy to move inside. I want more size and explosion at that position. Moore is an explosive player... I know his agility numbers aren't pretty, but I think what you see of him on film is enough to project him to just about any LB spot you want.

Like I said, the kid is a good football player, with good instincts. Instincts and good game tape trump his agility drill numbers.

If you went by his workout numbers, he probably wouldn't be more than a late round pick... but he's a better player than that.

I don't think his workout numbers are poor at all. He's very explosive and his jump numbers show it. 38" for a 245 lb dude is elite. His 40 time is fine and his bench press is fantastic. His overall numbers look a little like Nick Perry's except for the part where he's 25 lbs lighter. He's got huge potential off the edge as a pass rusher.

He could be a 2 down ILB but on 3rd downs I think you'd want him coming off the edge rather than covering. Interesting player with interesting possibilities.

Reminds me a little of Stewart Bradley or maybe even Bobby Wagner from last year.

HarveyWallbangers
04-26-2013, 03:29 PM
If Ball and Lacy are gone, I have little interest in the remaining RBs. Might as well bring Benson back and use the pick at a different position.
Deep draft at NT/DT. That's kind of rare. I'd like to take advantage in round 2 or 3.
A projected starting S would be nice also.
Best OL or WR available would be okay. Some good WRs and a couple of good OCs available.

That's my draft wish list for rounds 2-4.

KYPack
04-26-2013, 03:44 PM
And here I don't even have Monte Hall on my radar... I mean good grief, he's gotta be 80 years old by now isn't he??

He was 60 when Let's Make a Deal went off the air, and he was fading fast then.

No, I'll pass on Monte Hall ;)

How bout Arsenio Hall?

Long arms and a huge ass.

40 time unknown.

Cheesehead Craig
04-26-2013, 04:00 PM
And here I don't even have Monte Hall on my radar... I mean good grief, he's gotta be 80 years old by now isn't he??

He was 60 when Let's Make a Deal went off the air, and he was fading fast then.

No, I'll pass on Monte Hall ;)

But just think of the experience with trades that he has. He would take Hoody Genius and the rest of the GMs out there to the cleaners and suddenly the Pack have 7 first round picks for nothing more than a 3rd, 5th and bicycle made of aluminum foil. Zonk!

Fritz
04-26-2013, 04:07 PM
But just think of the experience with trades that he has. He would take Hoody Genius and the rest of the GMs out there to the cleaners and suddenly the Pack have 7 first round picks for nothing more than a 3rd, 5th and bicycle made of aluminum foil. Zonk!

The Lions would trade the rest of their draft for what's behind door number two, and end up with a Billy goat, who would - on the eve of training camp - be arrested outside a strip club for eating a stripper's panties and possession of marijuana.

See Wist, there's a lot to like about ol' Monte Hall.

pbmax
04-26-2013, 04:13 PM
But just think of the experience with trades that he has. He would take Hoody Genius and the rest of the GMs out there to the cleaners and suddenly the Pack have 7 first round picks for nothing more than a 3rd, 5th and bicycle made of aluminum foil. Zonk!

Jerrah would trade a pick for what's behind Curtain 2!

MadtownPacker
04-26-2013, 04:17 PM
Philip Thomas is big and a hitter. Great ball hawking skills.

Jennings as a center fielder is very limited.
Finally see Thomas mentioned. He is a TT kind of pick for sure. Don't forget I made a homer pick thread calling the pick!

And all you bitches keep it civil, enough!

run pMc
04-26-2013, 04:30 PM
The Lions would trade the rest of their draft for what's behind door number two, and end up with a Billy goat, who would - on the eve of training camp - be arrested outside a strip club for eating a stripper's panties and possession of marijuana.

See Wist, there's a lot to like about ol' Monte Hall.

Is there any way we can make this happen? Where's Matt Millen?

Fritz
04-26-2013, 05:03 PM
Matt Millen is in the barn with the goat.