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pbmax
05-28-2013, 03:27 PM
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/multimedia/videos/Stoutland_Excited_By_OLines_Enthusiasm/0b1a4b6e-3999-438f-a007-ab11dac568a6

Explains how the up tempo offense of Chip Kelly minimizes what D coordinators can do.

smuggler
05-29-2013, 01:38 PM
Sort of this strategy: Take your time on a drive until you get the defense with a particular set of bodies on the field. Then immediately switch to a faster pace to keep them from subbing in fresh guys or different personnel. It's definitely effective, but you can't really pull it off in earnest unless you have the kind of hybrid personnel on offense that can go between power running and passing without putting in subs. It helps to have a dynamic kind of back that can swing out to the slot.

pbmax
05-29-2013, 01:59 PM
Sort of this strategy: Take your time on a drive until you get the defense with a particular set of bodies on the field. Then immediately switch to a faster pace to keep them from subbing in fresh guys or different personnel. It's definitely effective, but you can't really pull it off in earnest unless you have the kind of hybrid personnel on offense that can go between power running and passing without putting in subs. It helps to have a dynamic kind of back that can swing out to the slot.

You don't have to be hybrid to do it, though it can help. One of the reasons Bill Walsh resisted multiple receiver sets was that he wanted the defense to choose: defend the run or pass by personnel. If you defended the run on first down, you would see more passes. And vice-versa.

Someone mentioned the Packers-49ers payoff game from 1995 in another thread. The Packers spent the whole game in nickel so they could have a DB for Jones and still double outside. The reason this was feasible was that the 49er running backs weren't that fearsome at the time. In fact, after Ricky Watters, it was steadily downhill for the 49er running attack.

I would say you need to have very good players, not hybrids or specialists to do this.

The 49ers offense does this by being a hybrid of scheme. Option, lots of FB, TE involved in both running and passing. But its all driven by the fear of Gore and now Kaepernick.

The Packers offense should be driven by fear of Rodgers and it is, but the rushing attack of 2012 and the end of 2011 weren't up to the task of exploiting that fear. It would still work if the O line can stop leaking easy sacks.

Cleft Crusty
05-29-2013, 04:11 PM
Someone mentioned the Packers-49ers payoff game from 1995 in another thread. The Packers spent the whole game in nickel so they could have a DB for Jones and still double outside. The reason this was feasible was that the 49er running backs weren't that fearsome at the time. In fact, after Ricky Watters, it was steadily downhill for the 49er running attack.

It's remarkable how straightforward it is to defeat a team that has become one dimensional - even if that one dimension is an outstanding passing attack.

pbmax
05-29-2013, 07:13 PM
It's remarkable how straightforward it is to defeat a team that has become one dimensional - even if that one dimension is an outstanding passing attack.

In some ways the Genius Coach Bill Walsh costs his alter-ego GM Bill Walsh a lot of credit. You could have run a single wing with his 84 offense and won.

smuggler
05-31-2013, 11:28 AM
Without the hybrid element in your own offense, you just wait until they sub in some scrub players and then don't let them sub out. With the hybrid element, you can do the same but instead of just a few backups, you can get just a few backups and also have them in the wrong package.

Of course, you have to possess a QB that can effectively run the hurry-up style without greatly impacting the offense's performance. The hurry up thing doesn't help your defense much if you hurry up into a three and out.