Starting spot likely waiting for fierce linebacker Poppinga

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

By TOM SILVERSTEIN
tsilverstein@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Aug. 23, 2006

Green Bay - Whether it's in practice, in games or the race to the chow line, Green Bay Packers players know to stay out of the way of the human high-speed train known as Brady Poppinga.


The second-year linebacker is so wired he'd make an electrician nervous.

"I'll bet he sleeps with his eyes open," linebackers coach Winston Moss said.

On Wednesday, Poppinga continued to work with the second team behind veteran free agent Ben Taylor, but behind the scenes everyone knows the station Poppinga is headed for is starting strong-side linebacker, and arrival is expected on Sept. 10 when the Packers take on the Chicago Bears.

"That's a question you might want to ask (the coaches)," Poppinga said of where he'll be come the opener. "I don't know who makes the decision. We'll find out. Who knows? I just know that I'm competing every day. All that stuff will work itself out."

It seems a foregone conclusion that if Poppinga's surgically repaired left knee holds up Monday night against Cincinnati and he shows himself to be assignment-sure, he'll be moved ahead of Taylor soon. The 6-2, 238-pound Taylor has had a solid training camp and understands the defense, but he carries far less explosiveness and potential than the 6-3, 245-pound Poppinga.

Last year, Poppinga, a fourth-round pick, suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his first start as a professional. After mid-season he had been used as a pass-rush specialist and notched two sacks in limited action before earning a start against Detroit.

Poppinga was raw and not completely comfortable and made mistakes when he played in the base defense. But he played with such fury that the coaches knew they had something well before his season ended on a fourth-quarter kickoff return.

"He's big, he's quick, he's fast and he makes an impact at the point of attack," defensive coordinator Bob Sanders said. "He is a very aggressive player. That's what you love about him."

Now almost eight months removed from the surgery, Poppinga is set to return to live action and turn the aggression he has displayed in practice with both the second team and the scout team upon the Bengals. Poppinga wanted to be on the field much sooner, but the medical staff took it slow with him and didn't even let him take part in team drills until Aug. 7.

He is scheduled for 20 to 30 plays on Monday night and probably will spend a good part of that shaking off the rust. His biggest hurdle, he thinks, isn't getting back in the groove physically but rather keeping his emotions in check.

"That's my challenge," Poppinga said. "That's why before every game I try to relax. That's the hardest thing for me. A lot of people, it's hard to get hyped. For me it's hard to get down."

As a result of having spells where "your mind is mush" and "you're seeing things in a blurred fashion," Poppinga has taken to meditation to calm himself down. He said the Mormon religion promotes the use of meditation as a spiritual tool and he has found it to be the right medicine.

"I realize it's a weakness of mine and it's something that when I do handle it correctly I perform well," Poppinga said of being hyperactive. "It's not that I have big issues with it. I don't have anxiety attacks or anything like that. It's just going out (and making sure) that I'm in the right place and not wasting energy.

"I'm a religious guy and my religion talks a lot about meditation. I try to do it every day, when I'm in my car or whenever I'm by myself. I talk to myself and think about things in my life. I try to relax and try to visualize things I'd like to happen."

Poppinga was a defensive end for three years at Brigham Young University before being moved to linebacker and entered the NFL late because he spent two years on a Mormon mission in Uruguay. Set to turn 27 in September, he is not your average second-year player and doesn't intend to take much time getting himself re-established on defense.

He said last year he didn't have a feel for the scheme and it caused him to think too much rather than react and use his natural instincts. A year later, his comfort level is much better and he feels he can turn it loose without worry.

"I was doing stuff robotically," he said. "It wasn't instinctive, it wasn't as if I knew why I was doing it. I don't think I took myself out of plays, but now I can just play, where last year I was thinking all the time. It limits you to playing to your full capacity."

Though Poppinga sometimes appears to be a runaway train, the coaches don't want to harness any of his energy.

"I'll never say slow down on defense," Sanders said. "We have to heat up, we have to speed up, we have to get tempo, we have to get physical, we have to get to the ball. The only way to do that is quick and fast and hard with aggression."

It would seem Poppinga is the right man for that job.



Man I love the depth we have at line backer. Knock on wood :wink:

[woodbuck27]

It's a good thing... Poppinga's pushing for SAM.

Nick Barnett on a potential move to the outside:

"I'm balling. I'm the leader of this team. I'm playing Mike, man. Coach McCarthy hasn't come to me to ask me to move. I don't think it will happen. But, if you're going to move to Sam (strong side) after three years in a row, let's talk about the future -- not just about that position but my future here."

Hungry Linebacker's - we have. :mrgreen:

PACKERS ! HOLD FAITH PACKER FANS !!

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I think he could prsesure the QB and maybe even get around 5 sacks this year. He played three years as a DE in college, which means he must have some nice moves to get by the lineman. Even if he doesn't start he will give us a nice rotation and a very unpredicable style of attack.

[Packers4Glory]

I'm kinda wondering if maybe we are better suited to a 3-4 w/ what looks like 4 very good and young LBs

[Terry]

I think it's good that he's meditating. It can only help his play.

Do you remember that QB in "Remember the Titans" who practiced Tai Chi? :cool:

[GrnBay007]

Do you remember that QB in "Remember the Titans" who practiced Tai Chi? :cool:

U mean "Sunshine"? :razz:

[wist43]

Poppinga is the type of big, fast, tough LB that I prefer. Before he got hurt last year, I thought he was well on his way to being Green Bay's best LB.

He certainly gives them more flexibility, in that he is the only LB on the roster that can be considered a legitimate pass rusher. Hawk will be OK on the biltiz, but he's not a pass rusher.

Poppinga starting ahead of Taylor makes them a better defense - no doubt about it.

[run pMc]

I don't think GB has the right people at DL for a 3-4. Interesting idea though. I think having 4 quality LB's is a must...injuries are a fact. I'm glad the days of Navies playing hurt all year because we have no depth are a thing of the past.

I like Popp's motor & intensity, but I wonder if being too aggressive will make him an easy target for misdirection plays. Seems like he might be easy to fool into running right out of a play. OTOH, Poppinga might be a better LB to blitz than Hawk.

Woodbuck, I've been wondering something similar ever since Hodge was drafted. Let Hodge learn his rookie year and replace Barnett if he signs elsewhere.
I'm not sure why JSO thinks he'll be the starter -- I haven't heard much about him in TC...has anyone else? I do think that Poppinga will replace Taylor after this year. Either way, having Poppinga back bolsters the depth and improves the competition for Taylor.

[HarveyWallbangers]

While I like Brady Pop's motor and think he has good potential, what has he really shown that makes people like him so much? Hodge has flashed. Brady Pop flashed a bit last year. However, he was out of position a lot when he did play last year. He's big. He's not nearly as fast as some people think. This is a former college DE who ran a 4.72 at the combine. He's got decent speed, but I'd hardly say that he's big and FAST. Personally, I think Hodge has been more impressive in his first preseason action than Brady Pop was last year.

[swede]

Listen up!

Harvey is right once again.

Everyone is in love with Popinga's motor. Who wouldn't be? Last season Popinga and Gado injected some spirit into a demoralized team, and we thank them for that. But how is he ready to start at Sam with as little playing time as he's had?

Let's see Popinga improve the play of our special teams' punt and kickoff return coverage. That's contribution enough.

I remember some bad angles and tackle whiffs on the field last year that make me very wary of Popinga in the starting linebacker corps. And Harv is absolutely correct when he points out that Hodge seems much more developed than Brady.

Yes the Popinga story is cool.

Let the man be a special teams demon for a year until injuries or indisputable evidence of his readiness demand that he start.

[wist43]

With Barnett in the lineup, "bad angles" are a way of life for the Packers defense. Poppinga is ready to start.

Seriously, you guys have been watching bad defense, and bad linebacking for so long, I'm not sure you know what either looks like.

Poppinga is big, fast, and tough... and, while I know most of you guys distain those qualities in defensive players (I know you'd much rather have 11 ballarina's), it would seem that the new Packers coaching staff has enough of a clue to start moving this defense in the right direction.

[Tony Oday]

With Barnett in the lineup, "bad angles" are a way of life for the Packers defense.


Wow I didnt know broken records could type...

[Packnut]

At the very least he has to be part of our blitz packages. He's the only LB who can get to the QB.

[Zool]

I figured you would be all over this one Wist. Angles can be taught and they will come with repetition. Fierce hitting cannot be taught. You either have it, or you dont.

I'm damn glad we are drafting hitters on D. I get so tired of arm tackles and drag down tackles. Its like we have defenders with red capes out there. OLE'

[Badgepack]

What a switch it is for the Packers to have promising linebackers that can't get on the field. Normally we are scraping to find healthy bodies to play.

[HarveyWallbangers]

What fierce hit did Brady Pop lay last year?

[wist43]

With Barnett in the lineup, "bad angles" are a way of life for the Packers defense.


Wow I didnt know broken records could type...

You guys and your "faggot" defense... You're so sweet. :cool:

[wist43]

I figured you would be all over this one Wist. Angles can be taught and they will come with repetition. Fierce hitting cannot be taught. You either have it, or you dont.

I'm damn glad we are drafting hitters on D. I get so tired of arm tackles and drag down tackles. Its like we have defenders with red capes out there. OLE'

I would tend to agree for the most part... although taking proper angles is more instinctual than something that can be taught, IMO. Granted reps help.

Even a moron like Barnett has improved on the angles he takes... no such thing as a lost cause I guess.

[ND72]

ok, i'm gonna be the dick of the board, cause Brady Poppinga is a special teamer. "fierce Linebacker"??? I saw a marginally good LB last year, and probably our 2nd top LB last year in a very POOR LBing crew. Right now i'd say he's at most the 5th best LB on our roster. He was much like Samkon Gado last year, he was a small "sparkle" in a very dead year. And as it is now, Samkon isn't even a lock to make the team.

[Zool]

I figured you would be all over this one Wist. Angles can be taught and they will come with repetition. Fierce hitting cannot be taught. You either have it, or you dont.

I'm damn glad we are drafting hitters on D. I get so tired of arm tackles and drag down tackles. Its like we have defenders with red capes out there. OLE'

I would tend to agree for the most part... although taking proper angles is more instinctual than something that can be taught, IMO. Granted reps help.

Even a moron like Barnett has improved on the angles he takes... no such thing as a lost cause I guess.

I think that being taught how close to line you line up on different formations and recognizing tendancies can be taught. Those effect angles of pursuit alot.

Maybe Barnett has little shoulders and thats why he arm tackles?

[Tony Oday]

With Barnett in the lineup, "bad angles" are a way of life for the Packers defense.


Wow I didnt know broken records could type...

You guys and your "faggot" defense... You're so sweet. :cool:

lol no Wist your cool I wish I could have 10 kids to grow up just like you...

[woodbuck27]

I figured you would be all over this one Wist. Angles can be taught and they will come with repetition. Fierce hitting cannot be taught. You either have it, or you dont.

I'm damn glad we are drafting hitters on D. I get so tired of arm tackles and drag down tackles. Its like we have defenders with red capes out there. OLE'

DITTO Big Time. HITS ! HITS !!... HITS !!

GET THE DAM BALL BACK... HITS !!

:evil: I want to hear "the HITS" all the way up here. :evil:

I want OUR team to be feared and RESPECTED.

PACKERS !!!

[RashanGary]

I agree with Wist that Poppinga starts sooner than later assuming injury doesn't get him. He's a pass rush threat at any time in the game and has the brute strength to make a difference taking on TE's and DE's in the run game. His physical condition jumped to another level. I didn't alwyas love Poppinga, but I'm on his wagon now.

[HarveyWallbangers]

He may start, but I haven't seen anything that makes me think he's destined to be a good starting LB.

I hope Brady Pop is the answer. Taylor seems like a stopgap. I'd love for Brady Pop to start this year--if he deserves it. That will give Hodge a year to learn before he moves into the starting lineup.

[Tony Oday]

I would love to see Taylor, Popp and Hodge get out there. Everyone talks about rotating your defensive Lines to keep them fresh why not platoon our LBs? We know hodge can lay a lick on the run game but has trouble in coverage. Popp can blitz and put preasure on the QB. Taylor seems to be a 'solid' type guy can do it all but doesnt excel at anything.

[wist43]

Taylor has been pretty invisible in both camp and the preseason games... I think it's logical to speculate that Poppinga would eventually supplant him.

As for the best lineup - on run downs, I would say Hawk, Hodge, and Poppinga.

Nickel and dime, Hawk/Poppinga, Barnett/Poppinga... I'd at least like to see them have some sort of blitz threat out of the nickel and dime. Right now, w/o Poppinga on the field, they simply don't have much of shot of generating any pressure.

No secondary can cover forever.

[BananaMan]

I think Poppinga will be starting by week 8.

[Tony Oday]

Taylor has been pretty invisible in both camp and the preseason games... I think it's logical to speculate that Poppinga would eventually supplant him.

As for the best lineup - on run downs, I would say Hawk, Hodge, and Poppinga.

Nickel and dime, Hawk/Poppinga, Barnett/Poppinga... I'd at least like to see them have some sort of blitz threat out of the nickel and dime. Right now, w/o Poppinga on the field, they simply don't have much of shot of generating any pressure.

No secondary can cover forever.

I have always wondered if it was bad for the Strong side guy to not be visable. You know what I mean? Better to NOT be in the spotlight at that position.

I disagree on the run LBs it should be Hawk, Barnett and Hodge. I would think since Hodge has trouble in coverage it would be almost better to roll up the SS on the TE and go 1v1 on the strong side WR. That lets Hodge go free if there is a play action.
Pass should be Hawk, Barnett and Pop/Taylor. Popp if he is blitzing and Taylor if coverage.
Nickle Hawk and Barnett
Dime Barnett

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I not one whos going to get all exticed about pop until he shows he's a great player. Last year, as harv said, I saw some hussle and good intensty but I didn't see any big plays. What I am exticted about, however, is the varity that we could have on defense. If Pop can show that he is effective at rushing the passer, that would help the d-line create pressure, which in turn would help are line backers and secondary get more turnovers.

Wether he starts or not, I just love the fact that we have a lot of try hard, willing to give 100% kind of guys on our roster.

[ND72]

Taylor has been pretty invisible in both camp and the preseason games... I think it's logical to speculate that Poppinga would eventually supplant him.

As for the best lineup - on run downs, I would say Hawk, Hodge, and Poppinga.

Nickel and dime, Hawk/Poppinga, Barnett/Poppinga... I'd at least like to see them have some sort of blitz threat out of the nickel and dime. Right now, w/o Poppinga on the field, they simply don't have much of shot of generating any pressure.

No secondary can cover forever.


you couldn't be more wrong... I have in my hand an article from last weeks Oshkosh Northwestern, where Mike McCarthy says, "One of our biggest playmakers so far is Ben Taylor. He takes on blocks, forces guys back inside, and has been one of our most consistant defensive players."

Brady Poppinga is destined to be a special teamer. Sorry, but Harvey is right. He hasn't done anything. And I saw someone mention something about platooning our LB's??? that's boarderline retardation. You platoon your DL because they become tired quickly, if you haven't played DL before you wouldn't understand why that is. LB's don't get banged around and having to shed blocks on EVERY PLAY. Face it, your starting 3 LB's are Hawk, Barnett, and Taylor. and MAYBE next year, it would be Hawk, Barnett and Hodge. And to say our Nickle would be Hawk/Poppinga or Barnett/Poppinga, is even worse. Our Nickle will be two of 4 guys, Hawk, Barnett, Hodge and Taylor, and I garuntee you Barnett is one of them because is our fastest LB.

[pittstang5]

You gotta love Poppinga's Fire and Intensity. Regardless if he starts or not, he brings nastiness to the field, something GB has been lacking for the last couple years. I can't wait to see how he looks on Monday.

[packrulz]

Taylor has been pretty invisible in both camp and the preseason games... I think it's logical to speculate that Poppinga would eventually supplant him.

As for the best lineup - on run downs, I would say Hawk, Hodge, and Poppinga.

Nickel and dime, Hawk/Poppinga, Barnett/Poppinga... I'd at least like to see them have some sort of blitz threat out of the nickel and dime. Right now, w/o Poppinga on the field, they simply don't have much of shot of generating any pressure.

No secondary can cover forever.



you couldn't be more wrong... I have in my hand an article from last weeks Oshkosh Northwestern, where Mike McCarthy says, "One of our biggest playmakers so far is Ben Taylor. He takes on blocks, forces guys back inside, and has been one of our most consistant defensive players."

Brady Poppinga is destined to be a special teamer. Sorry, but Harvey is right. He hasn't done anything. And I saw someone mention something about platooning our LB's??? that's boarderline retardation. You platoon your DL because they become tired quickly, if you haven't played DL before you wouldn't understand why that is. LB's don't get banged around and having to shed blocks on EVERY PLAY. Face it, your starting 3 LB's are Hawk, Barnett, and Taylor. and MAYBE next year, it would be Hawk, Barnett and Hodge. And to say our Nickle would be Hawk/Poppinga or Barnett/Poppinga, is even worse. Our Nickle will be two of 4 guys, Hawk, Barnett, Hodge and Taylor, and I garuntee you Barnett is one of them because is our fastest LB.

Taylor played pretty well last year, the defense wasn't that bad. Poppy is still a project at LB from DE coming off an injury. Watch Taylor on monday night football and you'll see he's not that bad.

[Green Bud Packer]

i haven't been to any practices but if poppinga is out performing taylor at sam he should be given a shot at starting.what poppinga did last year has litttle bearing on what is happening this year. if hodge was playing better than barnett he'd be given a shot at mike but he ain't cuz he isn't. it's to early to start singing praise to ted and mac but i'm liking what i'm seeing.

[Bretsky]

ok, i'm gonna be the dick of the board, cause Brady Poppinga is a special teamer. "fierce Linebacker"??? I saw a marginally good LB last year, and probably our 2nd top LB last year in a very POOR LBing crew. Right now i'd say he's at most the 5th best LB on our roster. He was much like Samkon Gado last year, he was a small "sparkle" in a very dead year. And as it is now, Samkon isn't even a lock to make the team.

ND,

I've been saying this for some time about Popp; he's a fan favorite because of his motor and name but he isn't a starter. I've long called him the most overrated Packer amongst fans because so many fall in love with his name and proclaim him a starter. Glad you could be the Dick and beat me to post all of this though.

Cheers,
B

[Dune]

I don't believe we have the right talent for a 3-4 defense.

We have way too many tackles and i think only 1 could play defensive end (Cullen Jenkins)

Cole, Picket, Allen and Corey Williams sharing time at one spot.

[ND72]

Bretsky,

I do what I can. I'm usually worthy of being "that guy" on here at least once a week.

[esoxx]

Why don't we give him just a little time before he's proclaimed as destined for special teams? He hasn't even completed a year in pro football yet. Not uncommon for a rookie (even one as old as Poppinga) to make assignment mistakes and the like. Then he gets hurt on his first start so what do we really have to judge him by? Not much. Give the guy some time on the field before thinking this guy's Torrance Marshall II. Way too early to make a call on him, either way.

[ND72]

I never said he was the next Torrence Marshall, but WAY too many people are proclaiming him the next Brian Urlacher when he hasnt' do anything to prove he's anything other than Clint Kriewaldt (former UWSP LB now with the Steelers). sorry, but i just don't see anything more than a Special Teams stud, which all teams need, and a guy who could probably spell a LB or something like that. He's a DE moved to LB, with very average speed. Which I laugh about, A.J. Hawk runs a 4.5, and EVERYONE on these boards talks about how slow he was around draft time, Poppinga ran a 4.73, and everyone talks about how "fast" he is...more and more people are proving their football knowledge.

[retailguy]

He's a DE moved to LB, with very average speed. Which I laugh about, A.J. Hawk runs a 4.5, and EVERYONE on these boards talks about how slow he was around draft time, Poppinga ran a 4.73, and everyone talks about how "fast" he is...more and more people are proving their football knowledge.


ND - that's just because he "plays" fast. :wink:

I agree with the special teamer sentiments posted earlier. The guy has got a chance but its WAY TOO early to annoint him. Ben Taylor has played well from what I see. Right now Hawk is the "weak link" in the linebacking core. He is just beginning to play well, but has a long way to go. Hawk should be playing well consistently by mid-season - just as Barnett did as a rookie.

[Scott Campbell]

I don't like Poppinga. He played at BYU.

[rbaloha1]

BP at this point is overly aggressive and potentialy a sucker for bootlegs, reverses and play actions as a lb.

His best position might be a rush end -- like a Bryce Paup. With more bulk and pass rush moves he could replace KGB.

As a linebacker he is too undisciplined imo.

[HarveyWallbangers]

BP at this point is overly aggressive and potentialy a sucker for bootlegs, reverses and play actions as a lb.

His best position might be a rush end -- like a Bryce Paup. With more bulk and pass rush moves he could replace KGB.

As a linebacker he is too undisciplined imo.

Good points. Welcome!

[Harlan Huckleby]

I predicted two months ago that Poppinga would be starting for the Packers this fall. Suggestion was met with cold silence.

It's a damn shame that I'm too busy and important to participate regularly in this forum. My wisdom and insight are sorely missed.

[Partial]

forum > life HH

[Scott Campbell]

I predicted two months ago that Poppinga would be starting for the Packers this fall. Suggestion was met with cold silence.

It's a damn shame that I'm too busy and important to participate regularly in this forum. My wisdom and insight are sorely missed.



So how was rehab Huck?

[Harlan Huckleby]

one day at a time.

[Partial]

One day at a time... FOR ME TO POOP ON

[Scott Campbell]

So are we to infer that your self imposed exile is over? If so, Harlan Huckleby's retirement lasted slightly longer than Junior Seau's.




Nutz, I am not taking a break, I am going to not post here anymore. And the real reason is I am changing priorities in my life. This forum is too addictive for me to dabble in.

I am not mad at Madtown or anybody else. Mad treated me crappy because he is kind of an idiot. So what. We'll be friends again and chat occasionally in IM, despite his macho statements to contrary now.

I am lurking in here because I don't want to leave with bad feelings, so many great memories of characters here. Your statement about me wanting to sour the forum, uhh, sorry you have this impression. I am rebellious, and speak-up to authority. And there's the pitch black sense of humor.

Anyway, anybody can email me at RBurger@SequelSolutions.biz, my name is Dick Burger, "Harlan Huckleby" is now retired. I am staying away from the forum because it is best for me to go cold turkey, not because the forum isn't a blast.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Scott,

This is now the third time you've reposted my farewell speech. I suggest you put it in your .SIG - think of the taunting pleasure!

I changed my mind about retiring. Probably I'll be back to obsessive posting next spring or summer. Will send you a heads-up email before I appear so you can pull-out your zinger again.

Your pal,
Dick

[Scott Campbell]

Hey, some things are just funny to me no matter how many times I've seen them. Your farewell forever speech (quite the tear jerker by the way). My dog chasing it's tail. Belushi in Animal House. And this picture of Mike Sherman diligently evaluating draft talent.


http://www.packerforum.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10289/normal_sherman_sleep.jpg


Can't wait to see you in Spring, or maybe sooner if I know ole Huck!

[Harlan Huckleby]

Scott,

I don't like to get into exchanges that have a nasty edge to them.

You tease only unpopular people, or those in some (perceived) vulnerable position. You're ingratiating with the regulars, the popular kids. I tease people I like. There is nothing in it for me to interact with you.

I do wish you would bugger off.

[Scott Campbell]

Will send you a heads-up email before I appear so you can pull-out your zinger again.

Your pal,
Dick


Sure looks to me like you enjoy our little exchanges. Anyway, I wish I could call it my zinger, but I didn't write it. You did.

Someone with your pitch black sense of humor must surely appreciate the comedic value of your vow of quitting the forum cold turkey followed by you falling off the wagon with your periodic returns. It's funny stuff Harlan.

:lol:

Good to see you back and posting.

[Scott Campbell]

Scott,

I don't like to get into exchanges that have a nasty edge to them.

You tease only unpopular people, or those in some (perceived) vulnerable position. You're ingratiating with the regulars, the popular kids.


Maybe my perspective is a little biased Harlan, but that characterization seems a tad harsh. I go after Bear trolls, hackers and other sociopaths - with a few exceptions. And fortunately we don't have many problems with that at this forum. So I really haven't gotten into it that much over here. And I like it that way.

You my friend, seemed to get into it with LOTS of people - before you quit cold turkey. :shock:

[Scott Campbell]

Double post.

[retailguy]

I tease people I like.


I KNEW you didn't like me. I KNEW it.... :mrgreen:

[Harlan Huckleby]

Someone with your pitch black sense of humor must surely appreciate the comedic value of your vow of quitting the forum cold turkey followed by you falling off the wagon with your periodic returns. It's funny stuff Harlan.

Ya, it's kind of funny. If somebody I was on friendly terms with teased me, it would be funny. I don't much like you, so your repeating the taunt every time I stick my nose in here is harassing.

You are very kind to yourself! You chased after Woody for months, prodding and poking, it was pretty sick, frankly. You taunted Tank for several weeks. I've asked you to stay away from me, but you keep coming back picking fights.

I don't want to be your enemy. Maybe you are a swell guy, and I'm just missing it. They say absence makes the heart grow fonder. Why don't you avoid me for say, two or three years, as an experiment. A trial seperation. I'll try and see you in a new light.

[Harlan Huckleby]

You my friend, seemed to get into it with LOTS of people - before you quit cold turkey. :shock:

Nothing wrong with arguing.
I;m not inclined to turn things angry and personal.

[Bretsky]

Harlan,

It's really nice to see ya popping in.

Cheers,
Bretsky

[HarveyWallbangers]

Nice to see you back, Harlan.

I always thought you were the wry guy that could give and take with the best of them, but you seem to get overly sensitive at times.

Some good-natured ribbing is very deserved after your farewell post.
:D

[Harlan Huckleby]

Harvey,

When it comes to myself and Scott Campbell, there is no such thing as "good natured."

I just poke my nose in here to say hi, and I have to deal with Scott Campbell. Man, I really and truly have burned-out on talking Packers, been at it too long. That's all there is to it. I'm hoping to get interested again after a year off, since it was fun.

Jeez, this is really unpleasant. Later.

[Rastak]

Harvey,

When it comes to myself and Scott Campbell, there is no such thing as "good natured."

I just poke my nose in here to say hi, and I have to deal with Scott Campbell. Man, I really and truly have burned-out on talking Packers, been at it too long. That's all there is to it. I'm hoping to get interested again after a year off, since it was fun.

Jeez, this is really unpleasant. Later.

Oh Harlen, you're a funny dude, don't run off.......you are a great contributor to this site......

[Harlan Huckleby]

music to my ears, Rastak. But, must ..... let ...... go ..... of .... Packers.

[woodbuck27]

music to my ears, Rastak. But, must ..... let ...... go ..... of .... Packers.

Harlan! Hello !!!

Good to see you here Man. :mrgreen:

[Terry]

Gosh, I don't even feel like I can make it as a decent sociopath since Scott isn't picking on me. :sad:

[Scott Campbell]

You are very kind to yourself! You chased after Woody for months, prodding and poking, it was pretty sick, frankly. You taunted Tank for several weeks.


Woody and I seem fine. I like him, respect him and enjoy his work here. Our history was at JSO - not here. Tank and I taunt eachother, and he was the inspiration for my avatar and rat name. I don't think those two guys are very good examples at this point.

I don't think your mad about anything I said here. I think your just mad about what you said, because it made you look a little foolish. It looks like you can dish it out, but you can't take it. Read what you wrote Harlan. It was only made funny by you coming back. It's your joke, so put that fragile ego aside for a moment and embrace the humor.

But I don't think it matters in the end, because I'm guessing you'll find a way to tolerate it. You gave it your best shot, but you just can't seem to stay away.

[Scott Campbell]

I don't want to be your enemy. Maybe you are a swell guy, and I'm just missing it. They say absence makes the heart grow fonder. Why don't you avoid me for say, two or three years, as an experiment. A trial seperation. I'll try and see you in a new light.


Ok, because you asked somewhat nicely, and because I'm such a swell guy, I'll tell you what I'm going to do. You stick to Packer talk, and you won't have one lick of trouble from me. You might even begin to enjoy yourself here again.

That means no more gossiping in PM. That means no more sticking your big ole hound snoot in other peoples business. That means no more psycho-analyzing of posters you don't like and slapping them with derogatory labels (see your use of the word "sick" in this thread for yet another example). That means no more manipulative attempts at running this forum yourself, and undermining Mad's authority.

Now I'll still respond to your posts just like anybody else, but I won't go out of my way to make you uncomfortable. Just stick to Packer talk. You'll be happy. I'll be happy. The forum will be happy.

[Fritz]

Nutz, I am not taking a break, I am going to not post here anymore. And the real reason is I am changing priorities in my life. This forum is too addictive for me to dabble in.

I am not mad at Madtown or anybody else. Mad treated me crappy because he is kind of an idiot. So what. We'll be friends again and chat occasionally in IM, despite his macho statements to contrary now.

I am lurking in here because I don't want to leave with bad feelings, so many great memories of characters here. Your statement about me wanting to sour the forum, uhh, sorry you have this impression. I am rebellious, and speak-up to authority. And there's the pitch black sense of humor.

Anyway, anybody can email me at RBurger@SequelSolutions.biz, my name is Dick Burger, "Harlan Huckleby" is now retired. I am staying away from the forum because it is best for me to go cold turkey, not because the forum isn't a blast.[/quote]


Um, this can not be true. Your name is Harlan Huckleby, always has been, always will be. I'm not sure I can handle thinking of you any other way. Say it ain't so, Harlan.

By the by, I wondered where you went. I'm glad to see you back, and I do understand how this site can be somewhat addicting. I've backed off a bit from time to time. But who in metro Detroit will speak knowledgeably about the Packers with me?

As for Poppinga, he sounds like a strange ranger. Not that that's a problem. But if he can learn to not get fooled on misdirections, he could be a player. Taylor's been solid so far, though, so I'd let Poppinga start out on special teams and work his way slowly into the mix.

[Harlan Huckleby]

You stick to Packer talk, and you won't have one lick of trouble from me.

Who the fuck do you think you are?




That means no more gossiping in PM.


I don't gossip with anyone in PM. But on what authority do you make such a dictate?



That means no more psycho-analyzing of posters you don't like and slapping them with derogatory labels (see your use of the word "sick" in this thread for yet another example).


Sorry, can't comply with this one, chief. It isn't a question of me not liking you, it's your obsessive taunting of individuals that you target. I'll call it sick because that's what it is.




That means no more manipulative attempts at running this forum yourself, and undermining Mad's authority.


You have no clue. Your perception is comically wrong.




Now I'll still respond to your posts just like anybody else,


No you won't. You are going to stay away from me.
This is a friendly, social club. I've asked you to leave me alone. In a friendly, social environment, a decent person respects a request to back off.

You just reposted the same taunt about me three times, then snickered that you'll will never tire of it. This not friendly ribbing, this is harassment.

You've shown in the past that you have no social decency, you continue to pester people who have asked you to stay away from them. PackerRats has talked in the past about maintaining a "bar room" level of civility. In a bar, insisting on talking to someone who has asked you to leave them alone might end with a punch in the nose. On the internet, there unfortunately is no such check on rudeness. I hope that PackerRats will insist that you observe bar room civility.

[Harlan Huckleby]

As for Poppinga, he sounds like a strange ranger. Not that that's a problem. But if he can learn to not get fooled on misdirections, he could be a player. Taylor's been solid so far, though, so I'd let Poppinga start out on special teams and work his way slowly into the mix.

Poppinga looks like way more of a player than Taylor. And Poppinga is what, 27 years old now? It's now or never. This is a rebuilding team, nothing to lose, much to gain by rolling the dice with Poppinga.

[retailguy]

HH & SC,

Any chance we can get both of you at a Packer game this fall?

I think we can sell enough tickets for rights to watch the battle that we can make packerrats profitable in the first year.

Besides, watching the two of you punch and scream at each other should make for some pretty good streaming video. I'm sure GBR could handle the video, I'll handle the money, and Partial can handle the PR. Mad can provide the hosting, and we'll give each of you a complimentary tshirt....

think about it, ok? :mrgreen:

[the_idle_threat]

Mommy and Daddy fight because of me ... :cry:

[Scott Campbell]

I've asked you to leave me alone. In a friendly, social environment, a decent person respects a request to back off.



And I asked you to basically avoid anti-social behavior, like any decent person would. But apparently you hold that too dear to let go.

Your return to the forum has been even more dramatic than your final farewell. But I'm sure you mean well Harlan.

[Tarlam!]

I've asked you to leave me alone. In a friendly, social environment, a decent person respects a request to back off.



And I asked you to basically avoid anti-social behavior, like any decent person would. But apparently you hold that too dear to let go.

Your return to the forum has been even more dramatic than your final farewell. But I'm sure you mean well Harlan.

Quoting my favourite line from that oh-so-famous movie about gangs in the 50's, The Wanderers:

"Leave the kid alone".

[the_idle_threat]

Hey, Scott .... Pissing all over Harlan at every opportunity is pretty anti-social behavior, too. Why not let it go?

[Bretsky]

this thread blows

[Tarlam!]

this thread blows

No, the way the thread went OT blows.

[Joemailman]

Nutz, I am not taking a break, I am going to not post here anymore. And the real reason is I am changing priorities in my life. This forum is too addictive for me to dabble in.

I am not mad at Madtown or anybody else. Mad treated me crappy because he is kind of an idiot. So what. We'll be friends again and chat occasionally in IM, despite his macho statements to contrary now.

I am lurking in here because I don't want to leave with bad feelings, so many great memories of characters here. Your statement about me wanting to sour the forum, uhh, sorry you have this impression. I am rebellious, and speak-up to authority. And there's the pitch black sense of humor.

Anyway, anybody can email me at RBurger@SequelSolutions.biz, my name is Dick Burger, "Harlan Huckleby" is now retired. I am staying away from the forum because it is best for me to go cold turkey, not because the forum isn't a blast.


Um, this can not be true. Your name is Harlan Huckleby, always has been, always will be. I'm not sure I can handle thinking of you any other way. Say it ain't so, Harlan.


Fritz is right. Harlan will always be Harlan just like Dylan will always be Dylan. I have 40-some Dylan albums. Can't imagine thinking of them as Zimmerman albums.

[Tarlam!]

How about Brady, huh!!!!


I dunno, maybe he gets the start. I dunno.

Harlan and Scott are overt lovers. I knew Harln was gay from day one, but that Scott was his bitch - who'd have thought.

I say, Popp doesn't start.... :shock:

[Fritz]

Nutz, I am not taking a break, I am going to not post here anymore. And the real reason is I am changing priorities in my life. This forum is too addictive for me to dabble in.

I am not mad at Madtown or anybody else. Mad treated me crappy because he is kind of an idiot. So what. We'll be friends again and chat occasionally in IM, despite his macho statements to contrary now.

I am lurking in here because I don't want to leave with bad feelings, so many great memories of characters here. Your statement about me wanting to sour the forum, uhh, sorry you have this impression. I am rebellious, and speak-up to authority. And there's the pitch black sense of humor.

Anyway, anybody can email me at RBurger@SequelSolutions.biz, my name is Dick Burger, "Harlan Huckleby" is now retired. I am staying away from the forum because it is best for me to go cold turkey, not because the forum isn't a blast.


Um, this can not be true. Your name is Harlan Huckleby, always has been, always will be. I'm not sure I can handle thinking of you any other way. Say it ain't so, Harlan.


Fritz is right. Harlan will always be Harlan just like Dylan will always be Dylan. I have 40-some Dylan albums. Can't imagine thinking of them as Zimmerman albums.

That's right, Joemailman. He's a blue dog. Bring back the old Avatar, Harlan!

And I think I'd opt for the assignment- and tackling-sure Taylor over Poppinga just to have some stability and predictability in the defense, until Poppinga is physically and schematically (is that the right way to use that?) ready. But that's just me.

[Scott Campbell]

Harlan and Scott are overt lovers. I knew Harln was gay from day one, but that Scott was his bitch - who'd have thought.


Now don't be jealous Tarlam. You've known from day 1 that I'm not monogamous. And we'll always have Paris.

[Tarlam!]

Harlan and Scott are overt lovers. I knew Harln was gay from day one, but that Scott was his bitch - who'd have thought.


Now don't be jealous Tarlam. You've known from day 1 that I'm not monogamous. And we'll always have Paris.

I am jealous and I have every right to be! Neither of you ever shafted me like you did eachother!

Dear Mods, where I live, this was an O.K. thing to say. If it is bad for PR, please delete and PM me. I am willing to learn.