Official Packers vs Chiefs Gameday Thread

[denverYooper]

What the heck.

Let the TE battle begin! Looking at Q vs DJ Williams for all-around.

Franklin v. Starks v. Green should be good too. Although with Harris out they might not cut anyone.

And the DL might be a lively group tonight.

[red]

bout time asshole

[denverYooper]

bout time asshole

You could have put down your goblet of monk's blood and started it.

[red]

its made by monks, not made OF monks

although i wouldn't be opposed to the later if the alcohol content was high enough

i don't start game threads, way too much pressure

[pbmax]

All eyes on the O line. No hiding behind your fingers either.

[pbmax]

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 12m
#Packers not suiting up: CB Bush (ankle), CB Nixon, CB Casey Hayward (hamstring), S Morgan Burnett (hamstring), S Brad Jones (hamstring)

[mraynrand]

I'm not going to be able to watch the game tonight due to a hamstring pull.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm not going to be able to watch the game tonight due to a hamstring pull.

can't make the club in the tub, pussy

[Joemailman]

Hoping to see Banjo string together some nice plays.

[Harlan Huckleby]

#Packers not suiting up: CB Bush (ankle), CB Nixon,

I thought Nixon looked like NFL potential, maybe he will make practice squad. (Can't wait to hear the checkers speech if they cut him....)

[Smeefers]

so is there an online way to watch the game?

[pbmax]

I thought Nixon looked like NFL potential, maybe he will make practice squad. (Can't wait to hear the checkers speech if they cut him....)

Nixon an ace with tape.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Hoping to see Banjo string together some nice plays.

don't fret if he sees minimal action, he probably already made the team

[denverYooper]

don't fret if he sees minimal action, he probably already made the team

Way to roll with it.

[Harlan Huckleby]

It could get worse. I started thinking about Banjo's brother from Nigeria, who also is reportedly an excellent athlete. I'd hate to see the Packers pick him up and force the brothers to compete for a roster spot.

[denverYooper]

Rodgers, Cobb, Nelson, and Tramon Williams are all in uniform and warming up tonight.

[denverYooper]

I'm kind of worried that Banjo might be a constant target for picks.

[denverYooper]

It could get worse. I started thinking about Banjo's brother from Nigeria, who also is reportedly an excellent athlete. I'd hate to see the Packers pick him up and force the brothers to compete for a roster spot.

That's a story that would probably resonate with a lot of people.

[Upnorth]

so is there an online way to watch the game?

First row sports (or front) Google pick am football click feed you want and close random poker/dating popups

[pittstang5]

It could get worse. I started thinking about Banjo's brother from Nigeria, who also is reportedly an excellent athlete. I'd hate to see the Packers pick him up and force the brothers to compete for a roster spot.

ok, I'll bite.....Dueling Banjos.

[Upnorth]

ok, I'll bite.....Dueling Banjos.

It would be great to see them duel for picks on the bluegrass in giants stadiums end zone

[denverYooper]

ok, I'll bite.....Dueling Banjos.

Nigerian 419.

[denverYooper]

Sounds like IT factor gets the start.

[wist43]

You guys need to mellow out and fire up a joint ;)

"Dueling Banjos"?? Nixon tape?? Monks blood??

I recommend inhaling it and holding it til ya turn green :smk:

[denverYooper]

You guys need to mellow out and fire up a joint ;)

"Dueling Banjos"?? Nixon tape?? Monks blood??

I recommend inhaling it and holding it til ya turn green :smk:

I live in Colorado where I can just head down to the corner store and buy a pack of sticky-icky-icky pops. Edibles are where it's @ muchacho.

[pittstang5]

You guys need to mellow out and fire up a joint ;)

"Dueling Banjos"?? Nixon tape?? Monks blood??

I recommend inhaling it and holding it til ya turn green :smk:

I don't do drugs. They're bad for your body. Up with hope, down with dope.

[packers11]

live stream link?

[pbmax]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 10m
Clay Matthews and Jermichael Finley will also not play for #Packers tonight.


Also, on radio M3 said Young will start even though Rodgers in gear and was in warmups.


Pete Dougherty ‏@PeteDougherty 12m
Word is Matthews and Finley are healthy but getting rested tonight.So Matthews, Finley and Rodgers are healthy scrataches

[pbmax]

live stream link?

http://www.feed2all.eu/type/american-football.html

[packers11]

http://www.feed2all.eu/type/american-football.html

thanks!

[denverYooper]

live stream link?

http://firstrowus1.eu/watch/204143/1/watch-green-bay-packers-vs-kansas-city-chiefs.html

[denverYooper]

Supposed to be 100 degrees in KC. I wonder if anyone pukes tonight.

[pbmax]

Read in case of emergency

Pete Dougherty ‏@PeteDougherty 2m
Found out change in IR-return designation this year. Last year team had to carry player into first game then IR-return, this year ...
can IR-return guy earlier in the first week.

[pbmax]

KOC for the win.

[pbmax]

Tramontana is starting and his first play is an INT!

[KalamazooPackerFan]

obligatory game day post.....good to be back

[denverYooper]

Crosby has been perfect in games, no?

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Crosby makes it. Was that one of his not likely to be earned bonuses?

[Joemailman]

Hyde has been the most impressive rookie on the team this year.

[pittstang5]

1st string o-line was in for the first series...correct? Got one yard with Lacy. Uh oh.

[pittstang5]

Zombo...really?

[Pugger]

so is there an online way to watch the game?

http://www.vipboxonline.eu/american-football/170239/1/2013-nfl-pre-season:-green-bay-packers-vs-kansas-city-chiefs-live-stream-online.html

It's the Chief's feed but its better than nothing. You don't have to download anything, just keep closing the boxes telling you to download.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Zombo...really?

Might be the only Chief with a SB ring.

[pittstang5]

I'm already bored

[Joemailman]

Andy Reid looks like the world's largest tomato.

[VegasPackFan]

Andy Reid looks like the world's largest tomato.

Or a sunburned walrus.

[pittstang5]

That sideline reporter, Rachel, is one piece of AAAASSSSSHHHH. I know from experience.

[pittstang5]

So is Vince Young done for the night? I'm confused.

[Joemailman]

So is Vince Young done for the night? I'm confused.

They said they might rotate through the game.

[Pugger]

damn, I lost that feed...

[pittstang5]

They said they might rotate through the game.

Oh, ok.

[Pugger]

Well, at least I can listen to Wayne and Larry. I wonder if they'll let us listen in the regular season?

[pbmax]

Franklin on punt tackle, nice open field job if not exactly textbook.

[VegasPackFan]

Who's the commentary guy on the Chief's broadcast? This dude rambles for 2 full pays, tries to talk over a ref on the mic. SHUT UP!!!! And the dont call any Packer numbers/names.

[Pugger]

Trent Green is the guy who won't shut up.

[pbmax]

Taylor just tackled the screen pass. Terrible spacing.

[VegasPackFan]

Never thought I'd be grateful for commercials.

[pbmax]

Franklin in open field looks like a different player. But did see one run to right off tackle he got good yards.

[Pugger]

Vince back in there now?

[pbmax]

Van Roten shotgun snaps have slowed down and seem more on target I think. At least none launched to endzone yet.

[pbmax]

Vince back in there now?

Yep. Got one first down with Franklin catch and run.

[pbmax]

OK, that last run Packers D 51 and 57 failed to read the back AND the pulling guard on the counter/trap. Both jumped into an unoccupied hole and had NO chance to catch the RB.

Pulling guard had the easiest block of his life pinning BOTH inside and back went for 10.

I don't care about size or size. Two players in one gap is terrible discipline.

[pbmax]

Blitz plus DEEP zone versus 2nd or 3rd QB just provided short throw and easy tackle short of first down,

[pbmax]

Banjo down and it looks like a leg.


Where did everyone go?

[VegasPackFan]

Trent Green making my ears bleed but I'n still here. Barely hangin on.

[pbmax]

Trent Green making my ears bleed but I'n still here. Barely hangin on.

http://www.620wtmj.com/listen-live

Wayne and Larry

[VegasPackFan]

Did Banjo walk off?

[VegasPackFan]

It wont match the video but I might just bail.

[Upnorth]

No feed here, just watching stats. Hyde okay?

[pbmax]

Did Banjo walk off?

Commercial. Don't know.

Ross jsut got back shoulder throw with great jump, catch and feet touched in bounds

[pbmax]

C Johnson was open on corner route in end zone but Young threw early or over threw it

[pbmax]

No feed here, just watching stats. Hyde okay?

Sack and punt return

[pbmax]

Datko giving up some pressure, not terrible but retreating while pass blocking at RT

[pbmax]

Fulton with great coverage and just missed it. Great KC diving catch.

[pbmax]

Jolly dumb play. In pursuit has inside close off on swing pass to left flat. LB or DB has wide covered. Jolly overruns the player who stops, let's Jolly knock over the other Packer and cuts inside pileup for 10

[gbgary]

2 min offence...

[pbmax]

Franklin just whiffed on a LB in pass block and Coleman wide and high to receiver.

[gbgary]

That's roughing...right?

[pbmax]

Jolly another dumb play. KC loses 20 yards on strip sack, rb picks balls up and falls down. Jolly drives his shoulder into him while rb on ground

[gbgary]

ugh

[pbmax]

I dunno about Jolly. Last play instead of pass rushing he stood up and watched the QB, looking to bat the pass down. Pass went the other way.

[pbmax]

A couple of times Franklin has run outside zone and cut back early. Tends to get three yards and nothing else.

[gbgary]

what's kuhn so upset about?

[pbmax]

Did Banjo walk off?

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 42m
Banjo walking off on his own power

[pbmax]

Jersey Al - ALLGBP ‏@JerseyAlGBP 35m
Andrew Datko is not making this team. Too slow - now I see why they looked at him at guard...

[pbmax]

Ross having good night

[pbmax]

Stark nice run called back on holding

[Guiness]

Who's the wind-bag from KC talking away? The announcer had to interrupt him to mention a pass was completed, and he started talking again before we were told who caught the ball! Nice completion by Young on 2nd and 9 btw.

Zombo's in KC?

[pbmax]

Aaron Schatz ‏@FO_ASchatz 8s
Tom Crabtree breaks ankle. Who gets to be on the next Boston to Tampa flight after cuts, Fells or Hooman or both?

[pbmax]

Datko gave up pressure on play that yielded sack. Not sure of his guy knocked it out though. Lot of bodies back there. Young held ball too long.

[pbmax]

Jordan Miller unblocked is a menace! :lol:

[run pMc]

Jersey Al - ALLGBP ‏@JerseyAlGBP 35m
Andrew Datko is not making this team. Too slow - now I see why they looked at him at guard...

Sure sounds that way. (Sorry Patler, I know you were hopeful of Datko.)
I don't know that they will keep him on the PS another year...would you want to promote this guy midseason if you needed an emergency tackle?

[Pugger]

Who in the world is Brandon Smith?

[run pMc]

Is Banjo is back in the game? Thought I heard McCarren say that.

[Guiness]

who the heck is Brandon Smith? Nice pick!

[run pMc]

Who in the world is Brandon Smith?

Former WR with crazy athetic skills (aka Sam Shields part 2) but very raw. Produces wow plays for the offense and defense. Needs a lot of coaching and would be a worthy long shot for PS.

[Pugger]

I've got ESPN's gamecast open for our game and the photo of B. Smith looks like he is wearing a Seachicken jersey.

[Pugger]

The run blocking tonight has been atrocious.

[pbmax]

The run blocking tonight has been atrocious.

Yeah, no one got movement and Datko let his guy squeeze the hole.

[denverYooper]

Franklin with a pretty meh night.

[pbmax]

Another ST timeout because of substitutions. Slocum is going to get cut.

[pbmax]

Franklin with a pretty meh night.

Yes, but oddly it has featured his best runs and one good catch :)

[pbmax]

No mention of Banjo I can find.

[pbmax]

Ross nice force on second punt and Franklin with tackle

[pbmax]

banjo is back in the game

[pbmax]

Brandon Smith falls in coverage, 40 yard TD

[denverYooper]

Uff da

[Guiness]

Scratch the draw play from the playbook.

[pbmax]

Bostick will be on an NFL roster this year somewhere. Just too much of a mis match in the secondary

[pbmax]

Taylor just got thrashed.

[pbmax]

Datko again stayed with his guy but let him get way too close to QB. His guys bats ball loose for fumble.

[pbmax]

Jersey Al - ALLGBP ‏@JerseyAlGBP 24m
I've heard others say Josh Boyd is too good to not keep, but I haven't seen any such evidence. Practice Squad for me.

[pbmax]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 4m
Jeremy Ross has six receptions for 50 yards to lead the #Packers.

[pbmax]

Jersey Al - ALLGBP ‏@JerseyAlGBP 2m
#Packers offensive line, whether starters or scrubs, continues to look overmatched as they have most of preseason. Call me concerned.

[pbmax]

Well there is a big play. Miller penetrates big and Barrington follows his butt right to QB for safety

[Guiness]

Did the Pack have 12 men on the field there??? Sure looked like it!

[pbmax]

This just in: Vince Young not accurate on short throws.

[pbmax]

Another Packer gunner loses contain. barrington that time.

Masthay make a great form tackle.

[Guiness]

I was going to start a new thread "Slocum for President" just to add some balance, but after that return by KC, I am firmly in the fire Slocum crowd.

And don't anyone dare point out it is Thursday.

[Guiness]

Bonehead announcer. That obviously wasn't the air guitar Rodger was playing. See his finger plucking strings? He was playing the air base.

[denverYooper]

Maybe they should have one of the backups punt.

[Fritz]

Maybe they should have one of the backups punt.

So is anyone earning a spot tonight, or are they all just clowns?

[The Shadow]

Vince Young is no answer. Would the Raiders take a 5th Rounder for Matt Flynn?

[pbmax]

So is anyone earning a spot tonight, or are they all just clowns?

Masthay, Franklin (on ST) and Ross have played well. Otherwise ...

Early, while the game was still competitive, Jolly and Hyde started out like a house on fire. Tramontana had a pick on play #1

[pbmax]

Another punt where the gunner lost contain and allowed a huge return.

Backup OLBS, Palmer and Savage are having a tough time in wide run game setting an edge

[Maxie the Taxi]

Banjo is playing the Chiefs like a fiddle.

[pbmax]

Jolly is really fat.

[Guiness]

Jolly bats one down.

[digitaldean]

Shabby effort on offense. Defense had some ugly lapses but the safety was a lone bright spot.

[Freak Out]

how can Jolly still stand up after this? Guy should be hosed.....

[Maxie the Taxi]

Cyrus Gray, 13 carries for 72 yards.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Hyde has been the most impressive rookie on the team this year.

I figured out why he is good. He is cat-like, just like Clay Matthews or Leroy Butler or (a blast from the past) Mad Dog Douglass. "Cat like" means great body control and reflexes. Having that athleticism allows the defender to be decisive and attack, they can make subtle adjustments while moving fast. Less gifted athletes get juked more easily, they are forced to be hesitant. It's more than just being quick, although I suppose that helps.

[Teamcheez1]

I will be more interested in who we sign to the practice squad after final cuts. Who does this team really value as a developmental player?

[Freak Out]

The Packer backups suck.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Meow.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Franklin in open field looks like a different player. But did see one run to right off tackle he got good yards.

MAybe he will beat-out Green after all.

[pbmax]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 5m
RT @GilArciaPR: Tom Crabtree X-Rays are negative. Nothing broken.

[Harlan Huckleby]

who knew the packers had an offensive lineman named "Hughes"?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Jordan Miller unblocked is a menace! :lol:

They played Miller right from the first series, I wonder if they want him to earn a roster spot. Boyd is a big lug in comparison. But of course Miller has had an extra year to learn to play NFL defensive lineman.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Yes, but oddly it has featured his best runs and one good catch :)

I only saw most of first half, but I thought Franklin looked quicker than in earlier games.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I will be more interested in who we sign to the practice squad after final cuts. Who does this team really value as a developmental player?

ya know, TT can sign guys from the other 31 teams to the practice squad. So I think it is impossible to predict. We think our rookies are hot shit, but maybe they are just tepid turds.

[digitaldean]

UGH-LEE!

[pbmax]

Yeah, the offense is down this year. Brutal on 2nd and 3rd teams.

[digitaldean]

Hoping they don't get a lot of injuries on offense because 2nd and 3rd teams are pathetic.

[Guiness]

Silver lining alert: Crosby 2 for 2, good from 45 and 48 yards.

[Iron Mike]

I need some oxygen here in Wisconsin, STAT.....because Datko is sucking all of it up from way away in KC......... :(

[Harlan Huckleby]

Ya, pretty sad on the offensive backups. Except for Hughes, as I've been saying all preseason, that guy is a keeper.

Is Newhouse injured? Didn't see him play.

[RashanGary]

might be the end for jarrett bush.

[pbmax]

Ya, pretty sad on the offensive backups. Except for Hughes, as I've been saying all preseason, that guy is a keeper.

Is Newhouse injured? Didn't see him play.

He played at LT. Back came out early and I haven't seen and explanation. Did not seem injured on sideline.

[Harlan Huckleby]

He played at LT. Back came out early and I haven't seen and explanation. Did not seem injured on sideline.

I suppose the Packers figure they have a grand total of 6 playable offensive lineman going into the season. So that sixth man is as valuable as a starter, and they wanted to protect him.

I know trades are rare, but I see the need for another offensive lineman so intense that we will see a move.

[pbmax]

M3 on LT David Bakhtiari playing only one snap: "He temporarily hurt something that he overcame. He was schedule to play in the first series."

from: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/221749601.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

[denverYooper]

M3 on LT David Bakhtiari playing only one snap: "He temporarily hurt something that he overcame. He was schedule to play in the first series."

from: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/221749601.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

So, 2-3 weeks then? I hope he can make the first game.

[pittstang5]

M3 on LT David Bakhtiari playing only one snap: "He temporarily hurt something that he overcame. He was schedule to play in the first series."

from: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/221749601.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

So what the hell does that mean? I take it that he's ok.

[Pugger]

M3 on LT David Bakhtiari playing only one snap: "He temporarily hurt something that he overcame. He was schedule to play in the first series."

from: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/221749601.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

Then Bak will be lost for the season and we are royally screwed.

[denverYooper]

That really sucked. They looked like the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

[Bretsky]

Maybe my perception is wrong, but it seemed like in several of the Holmgren years our teams were much deeper......much deeper. It seemed like we tended to do very well in the second half.

Our backups are getting torn a new asshole each and every week and I wonder why that is ?

[denverYooper]

Maybe my perception is wrong, but it seemed like in several of the Holmgren years our teams were much deeper......much deeper. It seemed like we tended to do very well in the second half.

Our backups are getting torn a new asshole each and every week and I wonder why that is ?

I don't know about that, outside of OL and maybe LB. I mean, the guy mostly responsible for 21 points was a project CB they kept running out there and I think their CB group is probably as deep as it gets in this league. They cut a (declining) all-pro in Woodson and they have 2 guys already looking pretty good in his stead (Hayward, Hyde).

[Maxie the Taxi]

Dr. Hayward and Mr. Hyde. :wink:

[denverYooper]

Hyde looked sure-handed on punt returns. Not flashy, but I never felt like it was an adventure for him to secure the ball.

[mraynrand]

Maybe my perception is wrong, but it seemed like in several of the Holmgren years our teams were much deeper......much deeper. It seemed like we tended to do very well in the second half.

Our backups are getting torn a new asshole each and every week and I wonder why that is ?

A good backup QB can cover up a lot of problems. Also, probably a lot of it is extreme youth. and that they don't tackle, are soft, small, and poorly aligned.

[denverYooper]

A good backup QB can cover up a lot of problems. Also, probably a lot of it is extreme youth. and that they don't tackle, are soft, small, and poorly aligned.

I blame Capers.

[pbmax]

I don't know about that, outside of OL and maybe LB. I mean, the guy mostly responsible for 21 points was a project CB they kept running out there and I think their CB group is probably as deep as it gets in this league. They cut a (declining) all-pro in Woodson and they have 2 guys already looking pretty good in his stead (Hayward, Hyde).

Yes, I am not worried about defensive depth, certainly not if Jones and Hayward can play.

Offense though, still looking for a QB. Some of the throws were terrible and then protection got shaky in the second half.

[run pMc]

Yes, I am not worried about defensive depth, certainly not if Jones and Hayward can play.

Offense though, still looking for a QB. Some of the throws were terrible and then protection got shaky in the second half.

I agree. I find myself not all that concerned about depth on the defense, probably because the OL and backup QB situation is overshadowing any concerns. Starting to think TT might look outside his own group for OLinemen who can block. Vince Young is better than Graham Harrell, but I will reach for an airsick bag if he has to take a meaningful snap this year. I'm far from convinced B.J. Coleman will pan out as a backup QB.

Maybe I've had too much coffee this morning, but I'm pretty frustrated and past the point of patience with Campen and the OL -- you'd think by now they'd have the ability to field a line capable of pass protection and helping the RB's gain more than 2.5 ypc. Maybe Bulaga and Sherrod were supposed to be the answers, but I'm still annoyed and uneasy heading into Week 1.

Some of those backup LB's weren't playing the run very soundly. (Cyrus Gray!?!?) Stay healthy, Matthews and Perry.
</pessimistic rant>

[mraynrand]

Maybe I've had too much coffee this morning, but I'm pretty frustrated and past the point of patience with Campen and the OL -- you'd think by now they'd have the ability to field a line capable of pass protection and helping the RB's gain more than 2.5 ypc. Maybe Bulaga and Sherrod were supposed to be the answers, but I'm still annoyed and uneasy heading into Week 1.

Just another Kool Aide drinker! :wink:

[swede]

... soft, small, and poorly aligned.

That's what she said.

[Bossman641]

Maybe I've had too much coffee this morning, but I'm pretty frustrated and past the point of patience with Campen and the OL -- you'd think by now they'd have the ability to field a line capable of pass protection and helping the RB's gain more than 2.5 ypc. Maybe Bulaga and Sherrod were supposed to be the answers, but I'm still annoyed and uneasy heading into Week 1.

Right on. I don't expect the backups to hold up against other team's starters, but when 2nd and 3rd stringers are playing other backups I expect it to not look like a complete clusterfuck.

Then I find myself asking this question though. Do we have any OL who have gone on to do bigger and better things elsewhere? Meredith bounced around and started 12 games for TB last year but I don't know whether he is actually good. Giacomini starts at RT for Seattle but he seems to be one of those guys fans like for being a mauler, but struggles in pass protection.

[pbmax]

Between two injuries to tackles and one draft devoted nearly to all defense, suddenly there are offensive depth problems.

This is how bad teams operate*. And further proof that if I like your draft, it was a terrible one.


*If they start to sign FAs, then its time to put Ted out to pasture.

[Pugger]

Dr. Hayward and Mr. Hyde. :wink:

:lol: Somebody should paint that on that fence.

[Pugger]

I'm not as worried about the backup QB as I am the O line. If the line was better Rodgers won't get killed and we might even be able to run the damn ball.

[denverYooper]

I'm not as worried about the backup QB as I am the O line. If the line was better Rodgers won't get killed and we might even be able to run the damn ball.

The one time we've gotten a look at Rodgers + Lacy + 1st OL was against the Rams. And they did well against a DL that will be up there among the best in the league.

[mraynrand]

:lol: Somebody should paint that on that fence.

More like MD "Dr". Jennings and Mr. Hyde - if they're ever on the field together...

[pbmax]

That is one thing Young might pick up. Neither he nor Harrell seemed comfortable changing the play when faced with single safety, man coverage and eight in the box.

Young once went up top on 2nd and short but underthrew Walker I think.