Here comes the cuts

[red]

In something of a surprise, Vince young was just released


Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 4m

Have just confirmed that #Packers have released QB Vince Young.

from vince


Thanks to the @packers for the opportunity great organization great team wonderful fans good luck.

ok, so who's our backup QB?

[red]

couple more guys


Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 15m

#Packers have released S David Fulton.


Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 37m

#Packers CB Lloyce Means has been released, but has a good chance at returning to the practice squad, source said.

[Willard]

Backup? We don't need no stinkin backup! ....how about Cobb?

[red]

Backup? We don't need no stinkin backup! ....how about Cobb?

thats what i was thinking a couple weeks ago

it CAN'T be BJ Coleman, he was absolutely horrible in preseason

[mraynrand]

Backup? We don't need no stinkin backup! ....how about Cobb?

Cobb and Jordy. No snaps in preseason and now they are receivers #1 and #2 and QBs #2 and #3. Packers will sign a QB. Is Hass still available? God knows, the Raiders could release Flynn and go with Vince Young...errr... Terrell Pryor.

[gbgary]

thats what i was thinking a couple weeks ago

it CAN'T be BJ Coleman, he was absolutely horrible in preseason

Tebow!

[mraynrand]

Means and #34 would be decent PS additions. Both need some seasoning. Preferably Sage and Coriander.

[Willard]

Cobb and Jordy. No snaps in preseason and now they are receivers #1 and #2 and QBs #2 and #3. Packers will sign a QB. Is Hass still available? God knows, the Raiders could release Flynn and go with Vince Young...errr... Terrell Pryor.After Pryor's performance this week, Matty will not be cut. We GBP fans have a lot to be thankful for--compared to my neighbors who bleed silver and back. Ouch.

[Patler]

ok, so who's our backup QB?

Harrell will likely be available. Favre is unemployed.

[mraynrand]

After Pryor's performance this week, Matty will not be cut. We GBP fans have a lot to be thankful for--compared to my neighbors who bleed silver and back. Ouch.

Hey do Jacksonville and Oakland play each other this season? That could be the worst game since Green Bay Chicago 1979 opener

[gbgary]

Favre is unemployed.

nooooooo

[KYPack]

I expect to get a big NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO for this one but, dept.

John Skelton will be released by Cincy.

In the Pre, he looked much better than Young, Harrell, or Coleman.

I haven't seen a capable back-up QB in GB this season.

Skelton at least looks like that guy until we could find a better one.

[pbmax]

I wish Young well. He seemed like a decent guy in our brief exposure to him. I am worried about the backup QB.

But I love that Thompspn and McCarthy don't settle on names and PR to cover for a hole in the roster. Kudos to them.

But also a Komplaint that its Aug 31 and they don't have the solution on the roster for QB.

[pbmax]

Fulton looked the part but was late on everything I saw with him no surprise.

[Brandon494]

Pat White has looked good playing for the Skins this preseason. I bet they will go with Coleman as the backup though.

[green_bowl_packer]

http://images.wildammo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/24.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/samjham/KGB-and-Grossman.jpg

[jmbarnes101]

I expect to get a big NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO for this one but, dept.

John Skelton will be released by Cincy.

In the Pre, he looked much better than Young, Harrell, or Coleman.

I haven't seen a capable back-up QB in GB this season.

Skelton at least looks like that guy until we could find a better one.

Please, just no!!! He's absolutely horrible and would be equally horrible here behind our O line. Vince was the answer but Ted and Mike apparently think Aaron will never get hurt. Sorry but as good as he is he doesn't have Brett's indestructability. Coleman is a bumb. We are officially screwed!!!

[Brandon494]

Seneca Wallace?

[pbmax]

Seneca Wallace?

Jimmy Clausen is available!:D

[Iron Mike]

That could be the worst game since Green Bay Chicago 1979 opener

That was my Freshman year at UW-Zero. I was probably throwing up outside of Kelly's during the game.

http://www.brewcityreview.com/mke.bars/oshkosh.bars/Kellys.jpg

[Rutnstrut]

I'm sure Ted has everything under control.

[wist43]

I expect to get a big NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO for this one but, dept.

John Skelton will be released by Cincy.

In the Pre, he looked much better than Young, Harrell, or Coleman.

I haven't seen a capable back-up QB in GB this season.

Skelton at least looks like that guy until we could find a better one.

Well, Skelton did manage to light up Dom Capers for 306 yds and 1 of his 2 TD's last season ;)

Maybe if we lose Rodgers, we could loan Dom Capers out to the opposition on a weekly basis??

[pbmax]

Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider 2h
Packers release running back Jonathan Amosa, according to a league source. Likely headed to practice squad

[pbmax]

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 24m
Done with late breakfast so this might be out but Johnson and Walker were released. #Packers

[Patler]

Seriously, the backup QB is virtually meaningless to me. The only way it will work and provide meaningful backup is to find a young guy who can be immersed in the system and be a caretaker for a few games. They found that with Flynn, but not with Harrell, and it isn't looking good at this point for Coleman. If Rodgers is lost for an extended time, it won't matter who the backup is.

[pbmax]

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 1h
#Packers CB Lloyce Means has been released, but has a good chance at returning to the practice squad, source said.

[pbmax]

Practice Squad Mentions running tally

Amosa
Means
Johnson (Spoon says yes, Brandon heard no)

[Brandon494]

Damn Walker didn't make it. I hear they don't even want Johnson on the PS if he clears waivers.

[Patler]

Damn Walker didn't make it. I hear they don't even want Johnson on the PS if he clears waivers.

I wonder why? They hardly know him as a player.

[pbmax]

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 1h
Having bundle of Twitter problems. #Packers have also released center-guard Garth Garhart and cornerback Loyce Means

[pbmax]

New QB Mentions Running Tally

Skelton (kypack)
Clausen (pbmax)
TEBOW! (everyone else)
Cobb (Rand)
Nelson (Rand)
Clifton (pbmax)
Wallace (brandon)

[Patler]

Damn Walker didn't make it.

I'm disappointed. I like guys who just make plays, and he did.

[Patler]

Wasn't Jones their emergency QB a few years ago?

[pbmax]

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 1h
I don't know about the #Packers picking up Tebowie. Major Tom says I don't see it happening.

Spoon on a roll.

[pbmax]

Wasn't Jones their emergency QB a few years ago?

James? Might be, seems vaguely familiar.

[pbmax]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 1h
His Tweet sounded final, no? RT @DonnyB795: Don't you think the Pack will resign VY after Monday so his salary will not be guaranteed?

For your consideration.

[pbmax]

Bill Barnwell ‏@billbarnwell 53m
Zoltan Mesko is a lot more notable of a release than Tim Tebow.

BRETSKY!!

[pbmax]

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 52m
Sounds like the #Packers have also released OT Andrew Datko and FB Jonathan Amosa

[pbmax]

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 46m
FWIW, all is quiet on Chris Banjo front. Others safeties David Fulton has been released and @Justin_Felder reports Chaz Powell also cut

Banjo supporters rejoice.

[red]

Wasn't Jones their emergency QB a few years ago?

i don't know about jones, but i do know driver was at one point

[pbmax]

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 45m
#Packers OLB Donte Savage has been released, according to a source.

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 45m
I saw @TomSilverstein report that Charles Johnson has been released but #Packers wants him for PS. I would guess they'd want Walker too.

Contrary info on Johnson. Spoon says yes to PS

[pbmax]

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 46m
The #Packers have released receiver Tyrone Walker. Interesting

confirmation

[pbmax]

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 40m
As @TomSilverstein just said, both Walker, C. Johnson have been let go. Could go 5 w/Ross. Myles White hasn't heard anything yet.

[pbmax]

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 14m
One player on the bubble in decent shape so far. Chris Banjo hasn't heard from the #Packers yet. Really finished strong at KC.

[pbmax]

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 14m
If Coleman is No. 2, one name to watch would be Tolzien for #Packers PS. West Coast offense background would make sense. Knows SF, too.

[pbmax]

New QB Mentions Running Tally

Skelton (kypack)
Clausen (pbmax)
TEBOW! (everyone else)
Cobb (Rand)
Nelson (Rand)
Clifton (pbmax)
Wallace (brandon)
Tolzien (Huber)

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 14m
If Coleman is No. 2, one name to watch would be Tolzien for #Packers PS. West Coast offense background would make sense. Knows SF, too.

[pbmax]

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 8m
On Andrew Datko, one source close to the situation says he hasn't heard anything yet. We'll see. #packers

[pbmax]

New QB Mentions Running Tally

Skelton (kypack)
Clausen (pbmax)
TEBOW! (everyone else)
Cobb (Rand)
Nelson (Rand)
Clifton (pbmax)
Wallace (brandon)
Austin Davis (Dunne) (

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 4m
Another QB option for Packers. RT @jthom1 QB Davis, LB Hull among Rams' roster cuts: http://bit.ly/1dw507S via @STLtoday

[pbmax]

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 2m
#Packers have cut C/OG Patrick Lewis I'm told. Kind of a surprise. I thought he was a good inside prospect. Could get claimed, but PS if not

Missed this. I thought he was reliable at Guard and possible Center. Thought he would be #8. Spoon predicts PS if not signed.

[pbmax]

Practice Squad Mentions running tally

Amosa
Means
Johnson (Spoon says yes, Brandon heard no)
Lewis (G)

Spoon says Lewis if not claimed.

[pbmax]

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 5m
Still no word on Myles White or Ross (or McKnight workout). NOthing on bostick either - assuming he's staying here or dealt.

Does Tweeting about no news count as news?

[pbmax]

Jersey Al - ALLGBP ‏@JerseyAlGBP 6m
Ty, I had heard before the draft the Packers liked Austin Davis and Coleman in that draft. http://g.scrbliv.me/u95u4zi via @ScribbleLive

[pbmax]

Weirdly, compared to previous years, the thin position in Week 1 might be WR as the backups will be raw, untested and on the PS.

[pbmax]

Practice Squad Mentions running tally

Amosa
Means
Johnson (Spoon says yes, Brandon heard no)
Lewis (G)

Pete Dougherty ‏@PeteDougherty 2m
One of Patrick Lewis' agents said his client was cut by Packers n they want to sign him to their practice squad if he's not claimed

[pbmax]

Practice Squad Mentions running tally



Amosa
Means
Johnson (Spoon says yes, Brandon heard no)
Lewis (G)
White

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 7m
Myles White will be released and brought back to the #Packers practice squad, per source.

[pbmax]

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 7m
5 it is. RT @TomSilverstein #Packers have released WR Myles White, source said. That leaves them with Jones, Cobb, Nelson, Boykin and Ross.

[pbmax]

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 49s
Loyce Means probably headed to the PS. That's him, Johnson and White.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 46m
The #Packers have released receiver Tyrone Walker. Interesting

confirmation

bummer. I predicted his demise, but now I am dissappointed. When Hoosier pointed out he has same measurables as Wes Welker, I had a sleepless night.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 1h
His Tweet sounded final, no? RT @DonnyB795: Don't you think the Pack will resign VY after Monday so his salary will not be guaranteed?

For your consideration.

very possible. I wouldn 't be surprised to seen Harrell brought back either,

[pbmax]

SI_DougFarrar ‏@SI_DougFarrar 13m
Ouch. RT @RapSheet: Source: #Eagles OL Danny Watkins, former 1st round pick, is being released.

Coverage has him not suited for ZBS though. But former first round guy.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 14m
If Coleman is No. 2, one name to watch would be Tolzien for #Packers PS. West Coast offense background would make sense. Knows SF, too.

Tolzien might be upgrade over Harrell, but not by much.

Of course beggars can't be choosey

[pbmax]

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 10m
Interesting. RT @dj45williams: We'll pack nation. It was fun. Thanks for all the support and good memories. There's no place like lambeau

pbmax typing out loud: StoneBuckeye to PS, Finley, Mulligan, Taylor, Bostick?, Quarless?

[digitaldean]

That was my Freshman year at UW-Zero. I was probably throwing up outside of Kelly's during the game.

http://www.brewcityreview.com/mke.bars/oshkosh.bars/Kellys.jpg

Right across from one of my favorite hangouts in early 80's, the Alibi.

[pbmax]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 5m
Jets have released Greg McElroy, paving way for Matt Simms Towle it, via @mortreport

[pbmax]

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 5m
Bostick passed Williams on special teams last week. Wasn't sure if that was on merit or a look-see.

[pbmax]

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 4m
Another QB option for Packers. RT @jthom1 QB Davis, LB Hull among Rams' roster cuts: http://bit.ly/1dw507S via @STLtoday

New QB Mentions Running Tally

Skelton (kypack)
Clausen (pbmax)
TEBOW! (everyone else)
Cobb (Rand)
Nelson (Rand)
Clifton (pbmax)
Wallace (brandon)
Austin Davis (Dunne)
Greg McElroy (pbmax)

[NewsBruin]

I was aware of Pat White as a QB option who did well in the Skins' 2013 camp.

Interesting question, especially since we brought in Vince Young: Are MM/TT interested in the best available QB, regardless of skillset, or do they prefer one similar to Rogers' talents and our offensive system? How do salary/age/injury concerns play into the decision-making?

[mraynrand]

Seneca Wallace?

I saw him in preseason take a few snaps. He looked like Seneca Wallace: Fair accuracy, no arm, still good motor. Better than Charlie Batch. Stop gap.

[mraynrand]

New QB Mentions Running Tally

Skelton (kypack)
Clausen (pbmax)
TEBOW! (everyone else)
Cobb (Rand)
Nelson (Rand)
Clifton (pbmax)
Wallace (brandon)
Austin Davis (Dunne)
Greg McElroy (pbmax)


Willard (Mitt) mentioned Cobb first!

[mraynrand]

Is Coleman today any worse than Harrell last year? I assume if he comes in for a snap, he won't fumble it.

[pbmax]

New QB Mentions Running Tally



Skelton (kypack)
Clausen (pbmax)
TEBOW! (everyone else)
Cobb (willard)
Nelson (Rand)
Clifton (pbmax)
Wallace (brandon)
Austin Davis (Dunne)
Greg McElroy (pbmax)
Seneca Wallace
Pat White (Brandon and BU)

[red]

so, do we have a full list yet? i thought all cuts needed to be made by 11 or 12

[pbmax]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 6m
Not just Mornhinweg RT @MMehtaNYDN: Sources: Rex Ryan & key Jets brass agree it's time to move on from Sanchez: http://nydn.us/16Z8hHx #nyj


??

[red]

Willard (Mitt) mentioned Cobb first!

he wishes

AHEM..................


08-10-2013, 09:38 AM #8
red


are any of the current backups better then randle "wild" cobb?

after watching harrell last night i thought to myself "do we even have to waste a roster spot on a completely worthless player"?

i think it would be scary to have "limp wrist" harrell come into the game and try and continue using the same type of passing game that a-rod uses. i saw him make one pass to the sideline that seemed like it took forever to get out there. those long passes to the sideline have to come out of the playbook when a-rod comes out.

and if we have to change the scheme for a backup QB, why not just throw cobb back there (if he's healthy) and let him run the wild cat or something like it for the rest of the game?

keep a normal QB on the practice squad for running the b-team in practice, and use the roster spot for someone who might contribute to the team



http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?25709-2013-Backup-QB

[mraynrand]

Red, PB and I were talking about this thread (well, at least I was) The subject of Cobb's QB skill set has been discussed. Still, nice post.

[red]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 6m
Not just Mornhinweg RT @MMehtaNYDN: Sources: Rex Ryan & key Jets brass agree it's time to move on from Sanchez: http://nydn.us/16Z8hHx #nyj


??

then why the hell did they put so much stock in him this preseason?

that team is an absolute joke, from top to bottom

[mraynrand]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 6m
Not just Mornhinweg RT @MMehtaNYDN: Sources: Rex Ryan & key Jets brass agree it's time to move on from Sanchez: http://nydn.us/16Z8hHx #nyj


??

BRING BLACK TEBOW!!!!

[pbmax]

Cuts So Far None Are Official

DJ Williams
Vince Young
David Fulton
Lloyce Means
Jonathan Amosa
Charles Johnson
Christopher Walken (aka Tyrone Walker)
Garth Garhart
Andrew Datko ?questions remain on this one?
Chaz Powell
Donte Savage
Patrick Lewis
Myles White

[pbmax]

Practice Squad Mentions Tally

Amosa
Means
Johnson (Spoon says yes, Brandon heard no)
Lewis (G)
White
Stonebrner

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 12m
#Packers have released Jake Stoneburner but told him they want him back on the practice squad.

[pbmax]

Jersey Al - ALLGBP ‏@JerseyAlGBP 7m
RT @davonhouse: I hate getting random calls from greenbay numbers on a day like today!

[pbmax]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 45s
Confirmed what everyone else has already written (and @dj45williams Tweeted), that #Packers did indeed cut TE D.J. Williams.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 45s
Confirmed what everyone else has already written (and @dj45williams Tweeted), that #Packers did indeed cut TE D.J. Williams.

what a disappointment that guy was

[pbmax]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 28s
According to an #NFL source, the #Packers have cut RB Alex Green.


Franklin makes the team. Ross on kickoff returns.

[pbmax]

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 2m
Looks like it'll be Finley, Quarless, Taylor, Bostick for #Packers at TE.

[pbmax]

SOFT AND SMALL WE ARE SOFT AND SMALL SAYS THOMPSON

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 42s
No, I didn't forget Mulligan. Source said he's likely out.

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 53s
Been told the #Packers are getting ready to cut TE Matthew Mulligan.

TEAM WIDE DIRECTIVE, NO MORE INJURIES NO MORE SOFT AND SMALL. JUST LOOK AT THIS TE THEY SIGNED!

Actually, I am surprised Quarless made it over this guy. Now it seems clear he was Quarless insurance.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 2m
Looks like it'll be Finley, Quarless, Taylor, Bostick for #Packers at TE.

OK. But I miss Crabtree.

[pbmax]

Cuts So Far None Are Official

DJ Williams
Vince Young
David Fulton
Lloyce Means
Jonathan Amosa
Charles Johnson
Christopher Walken (aka Tyrone Walker)
Garth Garhart
Andrew Datko (confirmed)
Chaz Powell
Donte Savage
Patrick Lewis
Myles White
Alex Green
Matthew Mulligan

[pbmax]

Backtracking ...

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 1m
From what I'm hearing, #Packers haven't made decision yet as it relates to tight ends but looks like Matthew Mulligan could be odd man out

[Bossman641]

Mulligan rumored cut? Wow

[red]

cutting green over starks makes absolutely no fucking sense what so ever

[Fritz]

Cuts So Far None Are Official

DJ Williams
Vince Young
David Fulton
Lloyce Means
Jonathan Amosa
Charles Johnson
Christopher Walken (aka Tyrone Walker)
Garth Garhart
Andrew Datko (confirmed)
Chaz Powell
Donte Savage
Patrick Lewis
Myles White
Alex Green
Matthew Mulligan


Anybody get a second source on Alex Green?

And do Ryan Taylor's ST skills count more than Mulligan's blocking, then?

And where's raw-as-a-cracked-egg Brandon Smith's name? Don't tell me that dude will make the 53 over Tyrone Walker or Alex Green.

[Harlan Huckleby]

cutting green over starks makes absolutely no fucking sense what so ever

If Harris had not gone down, maybe they cut Starks. But they need Starks now because he is tge best early down runner if/when Lacy is out.

Will be interesting to see if Green makes a roster. His nfl resume ain't impressive, altho he looked better thiis year

[pbmax]

Confirmed:

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 2m
I'm told #Packers have indeed cut Matthew Mulligan, as @TomSilverstein, @WesHod reported.

[pbmax]

Pete Dougherty ‏@PeteDougherty 6m
Source confirms Packers cut Alex Green. Signing McKnight appears to be possibility. He's a good kick returner, also averaged 4.5 ypc

[pbmax]

Cuts So Far None Are Official

DJ Williams
Vince Young
David Fulton
Lloyce Means
Jonathan Amosa
Charles Johnson
Christopher Walken (aka Tyrone Walker)
Garth Garhart
Andrew Datko (confirmed)
Chaz Powell
Donte Savage
Patrick Lewis
Myles White
Alex Green (confirmed, he Tweeted)
Matthew Mulligan (confirmed by other beat guys)
James Nixon

[Fritz]

Well, okay, I could live with McKnight. Have barely seen him. Is he an upgrade over Green, then, for those who know more of him than I do?

[Harlan Huckleby]

pbmax, your services are appreciated


http://img2-1.timeinc.net/people/i/2013/news/130805/town-cryer-300.jpg

[Fritz]

That's sixteen names. How many more to get to 53?

[pbmax]

Practice Squad Mentions Tally

Amosa
Means
Johnson (Spoon says yes, Brandon heard no)
Lewis (G)
White
Stonebrner
Nixon

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 2m
#Packers release James Nixon and want him on the practice squad. Whitt talked him up this week but out with ankle/knee issue.

[Guiness]

Damn Walker didn't make it. I hear they don't even want Johnson on the PS if he clears waivers.

Johnson meaning the 7th round WR from Illinois State? If they really don't want him around he must've really stunk it up in the short time he was in TC. Or he punched a coach in the face.

[red]

Cuts So Far None Are Official

DJ Williams
Vince Young
David Fulton
Lloyce Means
Jonathan Amosa
Charles Johnson
Christopher Walken (aka Tyrone Walker)
Garth Garhart
Andrew Datko (confirmed)
Chaz Powell
Donte Savage
Patrick Lewis
Myles White
Alex Green
Matthew Mulligan

vince young is confirmed, he tweeted out his goodbyes to the team and fans

[pbmax]

Well, okay, I could live with McKnight. Have barely seen him. Is he an upgrade over Green, then, for those who know more of him than I do?

Bit weird. Lacy, Starks, Franklin and Kuhn covers all the bases except third down. But that is where McKnight has struggled with health.

[pbmax]

Johnson meaning the 7th round WR from Illinois State? If they really don't want him around he must've really stunk it up in the short time he was in TC. Or he punched a coach in the face.

He also had an affair with a coach's daughter. But injury left little time for him to impress. Be surprised if he wasn't candidate for PS.

[Fritz]

Bit weird. Lacy, Starks, Franklin and Kuhn covers all the bases except third down. But that is where McKnight has struggled with health.

Soft, small, and injury-prone. Got all those off-season areas of concern covered now.

[Guiness]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 6m
Not just Mornhinweg RT @MMehtaNYDN: Sources: Rex Ryan & key Jets brass agree it's time to move on from Sanchez: http://nydn.us/16Z8hHx #nyj


??

Improbable due to his contract. A ridiculous amount of it is 'fully' (whatever that means) guarantee. My understanding is that the Jets are married to him, and the alimony would break them.

[Guiness]

SI_DougFarrar ‏@SI_DougFarrar 13m
Ouch. RT @RapSheet: Source: #Eagles OL Danny Watkins, former 1st round pick, is being released.

Coverage has him not suited for ZBS though. But former first round guy.

???

Wow, this surprises me. He was highly rated and thought to be a very safe pick with the only downside being his age. A first round pick gone after 2 years, barely saw the field. I assume a few teams will bring him in for a look see, too intriguing not to.

[pbmax]

Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 2m
My colleague @TyDunne reporting that #Packers OLB Dezman Moses has been released.

Moses was hurt by toe injury that cost him speed, which was not in abundance in the first place, but he was tough though he seemed undersized when looking at him. New OLBs will have some tough shoes to fill

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 3m
Palmer has produced as pass rusher but has been knocked around in run game. Mulumba excellent against run but limited as rusher.

[Fritz]

None of this is inspiring confidence in me. But I thought Odell Thurman and Turd Ferguson were good draft picks, too.

[KYPack]

Confirmed:

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 2m
I'm told #Packers have indeed cut Matthew Mulligan, as @TomSilverstein, @WesHod reported.

Blocking TE that missed a lot of blocks and was hurt.

[pbmax]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 8m
#Seahawks cut last year's 4th round DT Jaye Howard, source tells me

[KYPack]

cutting green over starks makes absolutely no fucking sense what so ever

Green lost a ton of speed after the knee, oh Red one.

[pbmax]

Cuts So Far None Are Official

DJ Williams
Vince Young
David Fulton
Lloyce Means
Jonathan Amosa
Charles Johnson
Tyrone Walker
Garth Garhart
Andrew Datko
Chaz Powell
Donte Savage
Patrick Lewis
Myles White
Alex Green
Matthew Mulligan
James Nixon
Dezman Moses

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 1m
From my reporting and the hard work of others, I have GB with 19 cuts. Needed 22 to get to 53; or more to create some space for add-ons.

I am missing three. Packer Report has Hughes cut (unconfirmed).

[run pMc]

I am missing three.

Your list is missing Stoneburner

[CaliforniaCheez]

Tyrone Walker would be a good guy for the practice squad.

[run pMc]

If McKnight is supposed to fill Harris' cleats, McCarthy clearly had "big letter" plans for a 1-2 punch that he doesn't want to scrap, and he thinks McKnight might be able to. I'm skeptical of this guy; he couldn't really stay healthy (strike one) or beat out the other Jets RB's (strike two) with LT and Shonn Greene gone. My homer bias also makes me skeptical he's better than Alex Green, but I've not really seen Green produce much so I'm likely overvaluing him. I'd think Starks is safe as Lacy's backup hammer role; they must think Franklin can work his way into the 3rd down role and take it over from Kuhn.
McKnight can return kicks, not sure about punts. Has very good speed but not sure about his vision or patience as a RB tho.

[KYPack]

Cincy released OT Dennis Roland a solid back-up and sometime starter. He's better than any of our OT's except for Bacteria. They have to be looking at him for our roster.

[pbmax]

Want a RB?

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 9m
#Steelers activate TE Heath Miller from PUP list. He's active. Also released RB Jonathan Dwyer, which is somewhat surprising.

[Mazzin]

Seneca Wallace?

Ive always been a huge fan of Seneca Wallace, but I read an article that says he told his coach he was retiring while in the locker room right before the last preseason game. Don't recall where I've read this.

[pbmax]

Tyrone Walker would be a good guy for the practice squad.

I think so too but the most common mentions are Johnson and White. One guy had Walker with a ticket available for PS.

[denverYooper]

Bit weird. Lacy, Starks, Franklin and Kuhn covers all the bases except third down. But that is where McKnight has struggled with health.

Maybe they hope McKnight will last long enough for Franklin to grow into the 3rd down role. At least they have Kuhn back there, who, while not inspiring toting the rock, is solid in pro.

[pbmax]

Your list is missing Stoneburner

Thanks.

[pbmax]

Cuts So Far None Are Official

DJ Williams
Vince Young
David Fulton
Lloyce Means
Jonathan Amosa
Charles Johnson
Tyrone Walker
Garth Garhart
Andrew Datko
Chaz Powell
Donte Savage
Patrick Lewis
Myles White
Alex Green
Matthew Mulligan
James Nixon
Dezman Moses
Jake Stoneburner

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 1m
From my reporting and the hard work of others, I have GB with 19 cuts. Needed 22 to get to 53; or more to create some space for add-ons.

I am missing one. Packer Report has Hughes cut but unconfirmed.[/QUOTE]

[Harlan Huckleby]

If McKnight is supposed to fill Harris' cleats,

no, Starks fills Harris's cleats. Which perhaps explains why MM was inconsolable when Harris went down. :grin:

[Harlan Huckleby]

Maybe they hope McKnight will last long enough for Franklin to grow into the 3rd down role.

yep.

but you never can tell, McKnight may end up becoming a Packer legend! Well, Brandon Jackson legend level, anyway.

[gbgary]

Brady Quinn out there now.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Cincy released OT Dennis Roland a solid back-up and sometime starter. He's better than any of our OT's except for Bacteria. They have to be looking at him for our roster.

I still say if they pick-up an OL, it will be a center/guard. TT seems to think he can backfill OT with Sherrod.

[pbmax]

Rob Demovsky ‏@RobDemovsky 20m
More options for GB RT @SeifertESPN: Added to FA QBs Leinart, Edwards, J.Palmer. RT @TerryBlountESPN:Brady Quinn tweets he has been released

[pbmax]

Pat White has made Redskins roster according to CSN

[pbmax]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 14m
#Jets released WR Mohamed Massaquoi, source says. Also, some assume Jets rolling with 3 QBs. No release yet for Graham Harrell tho

[pbmax]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 11m
Bills releases: Cut veteran LB Bryan Scott after trying to trade him. Also release QB Thad Lewis

[Harlan Huckleby]

Rob Demovsky ‏@RobDemovsky 20m
More options for GB RT @SeifertESPN: Added to FA QBs Leinart, Edwards, J.Palmer. RT @TerryBlountESPN:Brady Quinn tweets he has been released

@Quinn: "Any day now, any day now, I shall be released."

[Harlan Huckleby]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 11m
Bills releases: Cut veteran LB Bryan Scott after trying to trade him. Also release QB Thad Lewis

Isn't that an NBA player?

no, that was Byron Scott

I seem to remember that Bryan Scott was a mean MF for the Jets

[Iron Mike]

Jonathan Amosa, FB
Loyce Means, CB
David Fulton, S
Vince Young, QB
Kevin Hughes, OL
Garth Gerhart, OL
Chaz Powell, S
David Fulton, S
Charles Johnson, WR
Andrew Datko, OT
Tyrone Walker, WR
Donte Savage, OLB
Patrick Lewis, OL
Myles White, WR
D.J. Williams, TE
Jake Stoneburner, TE
Alex Green, RB
Matthew Mulligan, TE
James Nixon, CB.

[Willard]

So what about DL?

[Joemailman]

So what about DL?

Probably trying to work a trade or 2.

[Willard]

The Bills are really good at this. They are down to 50 players! Who knows when they will stop?!

[Harlan Huckleby]

Probably trying to work a trade or 2.

sounds likely.

I will not be surprised if it is a good player on the D-line for G/C. Not just a bubble boy, but CJ Wilson, or Mike Neal, or Mike Daniels. Gotta give to get.

Well, ok, Jolly, Miller or Boyd for a similarly marginal offensive lineman perhaps more likely.

[Joemailman]

Jonathan Amosa, FB
Loyce Means, CB
David Fulton, S
Vince Young, QB
Kevin Hughes, OL
Garth Gerhart, OL
Chaz Powell, S
David Fulton, S
Charles Johnson, WR
Andrew Datko, OT
Tyrone Walker, WR
Donte Savage, OLB
Patrick Lewis, OL
Myles White, WR
D.J. Williams, TE
Jake Stoneburner, TE
Alex Green, RB
Matthew Mulligan, TE
James Nixon, CB.

Wilde has Dezman Moses on his list of cuts.

[pbmax]

Odds that Redskins and Raiders (4 QBs each) are talking to the Packers?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Odds that Redskins and Raiders (4 QBs each) are talking to the Packers?

RG III would look great in G&G - and an excellent mentor for Coleman

[pbmax]

Wilde has Dezman Moses on his list of cuts.

Also Fulton listed twice.

[Harlan Huckleby]

No release yet for Graham Harrell tho
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Can you imagine TT having to give up a draft pick to get him back? LOL

[bobblehead]

BRING BLACK TEBOW!!!!

Jamarcus Russel

[bobblehead]

what a disappointment that guy was

Only to people who think a 6'1" TE has any place in the NFL.

[bobblehead]

cutting green over starks makes absolutely no fucking sense what so ever

One is a good runner the other isn't.....and green isn't the good runner

[Harlan Huckleby]

Only to people who think a 6'1" TE has any place in the NFL.



Ed "Toolbox" West would beg to differ. But I guess that was the leather helmet era.

[bobblehead]

Anybody get a second source on Alex Green?

And do Ryan Taylor's ST skills count more than Mulligan's blocking, then?

And where's raw-as-a-cracked-egg Brandon Smith's name? Don't tell me that dude will make the 53 over Tyrone Walker or Alex Green.

I think I judge DB's pretty well. I was all over sam Shields early. I think Brandon Smith looks like a keeper....I did however expect a year on the PS first.

[pbmax]

Only to people who think a 6'1" TE has any place in the NFL.

Eh. Size wasn't the determining factor for him, though it obviously wasn't an advantage. McGinn mentioned in his rookie camp that he was obviously better at blocking than Taylor and occasionally Finley, having had to do traditional in-line blocking in college. So his improvement there was no surprise.

What killed his chances was the inability to bring his practice hands to an actual game.

[pbmax]

I think I judge DB's pretty well. I was all over sam Shields early. I think Brandon Smith looks like a keeper....I did however expect a year on the PS first.

They might be hiding him and waiting for the dust to settle to get him over there. Either that or coaching him to say OUCH on his next physical exam.

[Harlan Huckleby]

"My guess at tight end would be Matthew Mulligan, Ryan Taylor and D.J. Williams behind Jermichael Finley."

Bob McGinn has hit a rough patch.

[bobblehead]

Eh. Size wasn't the determining factor for him, though it obviously wasn't an advantage. McGinn mentioned in his rookie camp that he was obviously better at blocking than Taylor and occasionally Finley, having had to do traditional in-line blocking in college. So his improvement there was no surprise.

What killed his chances was the inability to bring his practice hands to an actual game.

Agreed, however, I think guys who are smallish really have to make plays to make rosters. I like Harris, but said many times I thought they would cut him, but he made enough plays to be worthy.

TE's need size for 2 reasons, blocking being only one. They also use their bodies to shield out defenders and make big targets. If they are small, JJones does it just as well and is much faster.

[Joemailman]

Anybody get a second source on Alex Green?

And do Ryan Taylor's ST skills count more than Mulligan's blocking, then?

And where's raw-as-a-cracked-egg Brandon Smith's name? Don't tell me that dude will make the 53 over Tyrone Walker or Alex Green.

If it comes down to special teams, as it sometimes does, he might. He certainly has more physical ability as a gunner than the other 2.

[pbmax]

Agreed, however, I think guys who are smallish really have to make plays to make rosters. I like Harris, but said many times I thought they would cut him, but he made enough plays to be worthy.

Agreed. Without stellar hands and playmaking ability, he wasn't going to dominate in any other area.

[Joemailman]

Everything has to done in 15 minutes. Not that we'll necessarily know in 15 minutes.

[Joemailman]

Am I going to have to change my avatar?

[pbmax]

Sean Jensen ‏@seankjensen 2m
BREAKING: Former #Vikings and #Bills CB Antoine Winfield has decided to retire, according to a league source.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Am I going to have to change my avatar?

might have to do a color correction

[pbmax]

Am I going to have to change my avatar?

How many DL and DBs are left?

Raji, Pickett, Jones, Wilson, Jolly, Daniels Miller, Boyd, Neal*

Tramontana, Shields, Hyde, Hayward, House, Bush, Burnett, Banjo, McMillan, Jennings, Smith


Am I missing someone? If Packer Reports has the count right, we know all but 3 cuts. So three have to come from those.

[Joemailman]

How many DL and DBs are left?

Raji, Pickett, Jones, Wilson, Jolly, Miller, Boyd, Neal*

Tramontana, Shields, Hyde, Hayward, House, Bush, Burnett, Banjo, McMillan, Jennings, Smith


Am I missing someone? If Packer Reports has the count right, we know all but 3 cuts. So three have to come from those.

Forgot Daniels.

[pbmax]

How many DL and DBs are left?

Raji, Pickett, Jones, Wilson, Jolly, Daniels, Miller, Boyd, Neal*

Tramontana, Shields, Hyde, Hayward, House, Bush, Burnett, Banjo, McMillan, Jennings, Smith


Am I missing someone? If Packer Reports has the count right, we know all but 3 cuts. So three have to come from those.

Matthews, Perry, Mulumba, Palmer, Neal*, Hawk, Jones, Francois, Lattimore, Barrington

OK, one of three remaining could come from LBs. That would be 26 on D if 3 cuts are from here.

[pbmax]

Forgot Daniels.

Thanks and corrected.

[Joemailman]

Lane Taylor and Van Roten going to both make it?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Lane Taylor and Van Roten going to both make it?

God. Two worthless players, IMO

[wist43]

Jolly better not get cut... even though Mr. Spraypaintedhair only plays 2 DL at a time, Jolly proved he still has it.

When Capers is fired, whoever inherits the D will need Jolly.

[denverYooper]

We need Bedard out there with his binoculars trying to sort out the last cuts.

[Joemailman]

God. Two worthless players, IMO

I agree. Barring a trade, one has to make it, but if both make it, they're cutting a much better player at another position.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Jolly better not get cut... even though Mr. Spraypaintedhair only plays 2 DL at a time, Jolly proved he still has it.

When Capers is fired, whoever inherits the D will need Jolly.

I don't think Jolly will get cut, I was suggesting he could get traded. Long shot, but possible.

[pbmax]

nm

[mraynrand]

Isn't that an NBA player?

no, that was Byron Scott

I seem to remember that Bryan Scott was a mean MF for the Jets

Byron Scott was released back in April

[Harlan Huckleby]

Byron Scott was released back in April

new packer TE?

[wist43]

I don't think Jolly will get cut, I was suggesting he could get traded. Long shot, but possible.

I don't want him traded either - I want him on the team!!!

[Joemailman]

nm

Bretsky is out celebrating Bucky's devouring of a cupcake.

[denverYooper]

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 16s

The deadline has passed. Andy Mulumba has not heard from the #Packers. Undrafted OLB likely in: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/221922501.html …

[Harlan Huckleby]

Apparently the Pack have elected to keep a 56 man roster

[denverYooper]

Apparent the Pack have elected to keep a 56 man roster

Man, that TT is shrewd.

[mraynrand]

Sean Jensen ‏@seankjensen 2m
BREAKING: Former #Vikings and #Bills CB Antoine Winfield has decided to retire, according to a league source.

Did he officially retire before he was cut? You were fired! No, I quit!

Seriously, you legal eagles, how does the CBA and the Head injury lawsuit distinguish between cut and retired players??

[wist43]

Apparently the Pack have elected to keep a 56 man roster

lol

[Willard]

Apparently the Pack have elected to keep a 56 man rosterMaybe the Bills were nice enough to give us 3 of their spots. They only have 50 players.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Man, that TT is shrewd.

Silverstein sez that TT is slow in reporting to public in hopes of gaining competitive advantage - the nfl has slight delay in releasing info to teams.

Sounds petty, but i guess nfl is knife-fight today.

[Joemailman]

Apparently the Pack have elected to keep a 56 man roster

3 guys on IR?

[pbmax]

Bretsky is out celebrating Bucky's devouring of a cupcake.

mmm 3 100 yard running backs. That's going to be a good sized cupcake.

[mraynrand]

Maybe the Bills were nice enough to give us 3 of their spots. They only have 50 players.

LOL. I was wondering who would cut the lowest: Bills, Jaguars or Raiders. I was pretty sure the Raiders could cut down to 34 players.

[pbmax]

Did he officially retire before he was cut? You were fired! No, I quit!

Seriously, you legal eagles, how does the CBA and the Head injury lawsuit distinguish between cut and retired players??

Cut and retired have nothing to do with each other normally. Unsure how legal deal treats the deadline.

[pbmax]

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 5m
The deadline has passed. Andy Mulumba has not heard from the #Packers. Undrafted OLB likely in: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/221922501.html …

[denverYooper]

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 4m

Safety Chris Banjo has also not heard from the #Packers with the deadline passed. He's likely in as well: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/221922501.html …

[pbmax]

Any chance Miller sneaks through after being around the pie or in the tackle for every down in every second half? :lol:

[digitaldean]

God. Two worthless players, IMO

WTH do they see in Taylor on OL? He was a penalty machine in preseason.

[Harlan Huckleby]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myhnAZFR1po

A celebratory interlude for the Chris Banjo fans

[gbgary]

Apparently the Pack have elected to keep a 56 man roster

lol

[Willard]

LOL. I was wondering who would cut the lowest: Bills, Jaguars or Raiders. I was pretty sure the Raiders could cut down to 34 players.
Reggie MacKenzie has decided he is the 35th best player in Oakland so he is coming out of retirement.

[wist43]

Miller played very well too... he needs to make the roster.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Miller played very well too... he needs to make the roster.

Mailman has sniffed-out a trade of one of our D-linemen, possibly for o-line. I have no idea what mailman is sniffing, but could be a guy like Miller on block.

[Harlan Huckleby]

prediction: Vince Young back on roster as soon as vet guarantee deadline passes.

He is best option for a backup for San FRan game, even if intent is to cut him again.

[Joemailman]

Tyler Dunne ‏@TyDunne 4m

Safety Chris Banjo has also not heard from the #Packers with the deadline passed. He's likely in as well: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/221922501.html …

Banjo has made the team. Don't fret about it. I mean, they don't have any other backup safeties of note. TT has to pick Banjo.

[pbmax]

Lane Taylor, like Lewis a rookie free agent, took 50 snaps at right guard and the last 14 at left guard. He had four minus plays.

Taylor is even stronger than Lewis but also lacks speed (5.35) and athleticism for a zone-blocking scheme. In protection, he can anchor against most bull rushers after two steps. He also is capable of burying people in the run game more than Van Roten and Lewis.

Here is Bob on why Taylor.

[run pMc]

Here is Bob on why Taylor.

Yeha, thought some of the pundits, writers, and railbirds were high on Taylor. Maybe they were just high.

[denverYooper]

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 43s

Lane Taylor still has yet to hear from the #Packers. Like everyone else at this hour, that's extremely good news

[Harlan Huckleby]

Nick MacDonald cut by NE. There's a bargain backup center.

[pbmax]

Nick MacDonald cut by NE. There's a bargain backup center.

I guess ol' Greg Bedard is eating his words on that one.

[pbmax]

The Packers released FB Jonathan Amosa, T Andrew Datko, S David Fulton, C Garth Gerhart, RB Alex Green, T Kevin Hughes, WR Charles Johnson, C Patrick Lewis, LB Terrell Manning, CB Loyce Means, DT Jordan Miller, LB Dezman Moses, TE Matthew Mulligan, CB James Nixon, S Chaz Powell, LB Donte Savage, CB Brandon Smith, TE Jake Stoneburner, WR Tyrone Walker, WR Myles White, TE D.J. Williams and QB Vince Young.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Jordan Miller - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

[pbmax]

Miller, Smith and Manning were last three released if you go by our list.

[pbmax]

Jordan Miller - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

He is going to get a paycheck from someone, even if the Packers manage to hide him on PS, they will have to pony up some cash.

[Joemailman]

Miller played very well too... he needs to make the roster.

How many DL you expect TT to keep when spraypaintedhairguy only plays 2 at a time? :lol:

[Pugger]

cutting green over starks makes absolutely no fucking sense what so ever

We can't be happy with either one if we are still bringing in RBs for tryouts.

[pbmax]

Cuts: All Are Official

DJ Williams
Vince Young
David Fulton
Lloyce Means
Jonathan Amosa
Charles Johnson
Tyrone Walker
Garth Garhart
Andrew Datko
Chaz Powell
Donte Savage
Patrick Lewis
Myles White
Alex Green
Matthew Mulligan
James Nixon
Dezman Moses
Jake Stoneburner
Terrell Manning
Jordan Miller
Brandon Smith

[Harlan Huckleby]

They kept Boyd over Miller. GB has a bad record of keeping big defensive lineman just cause they're big

bigger they are, the harder they fall

what about the little people!!!!????

[run pMc]

The Packers released FB Jonathan Amosa, T Andrew Datko, S David Fulton, C Garth Gerhart, RB Alex Green, T Kevin Hughes, WR Charles Johnson, C Patrick Lewis, LB Terrell Manning, CB Loyce Means, DT Jordan Miller, LB Dezman Moses, TE Matthew Mulligan, CB James Nixon, S Chaz Powell, LB Donte Savage, CB Brandon Smith, TE Jake Stoneburner, WR Tyrone Walker, WR Myles White, TE D.J. Williams and QB Vince Young.

So Barrington and Palmer stick. Johnny Jolly and Josh Boyd too.
Finley, Quarless, Taylor and Bostick at TE.

Not sure what the full 53 looks like, but it feels to me like there's going to be some more shuffling of depth. I could see them kicking the tires on a OL...and the backup QB situation is downright scary.

[Harlan Huckleby]

We can't be happy with either one if we are still bringing in RBs for tryouts.

I see Franklin as the most tenuous guy on the roster now

[pbmax]

Your 2013 Opening Day Roster Defense

Raji, Pickett, Jones, Wilson, Jolly, Daniels, Boyd, Neal*

Tramontana, Shields, Hyde, Hayward, House, Bush, Burnett, Banjo, McMillan, Jennings

Matthews, Perry, Mulumba, Palmer, Neal*, Hawk, Jones, Francois, Lattimore, Barrington

27?

[Pugger]

Brady Quinn out there now.

Didn't he play okay against us the other night?

[pbmax]

Offense 2013 Opening Roster

Rodgers, Coleman

Lacy, Franklin, Starks, Kuhn

Finley, Q, Bostick, Taylor

Bach, Sitton, EDS, Lang, Barclay, Newhouse, Van Roten, Taylor

Jones, Nelson, Cobb, Boykin, Ross

23?

[pbmax]

Practice Squad Watch List by Mentions

Amosa
Means
Johnson (Spoon says yes, Brandon heard no)
Lewis (G)
White
Stonebrner
Nixon

Not mentioned but seems obvious:

Jordan Miller
Brandon Smith

[pbmax]

Other DTs are available:

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer 9m
Giants def hoped to deal a DT today. RT @MikeGarafolo: And I'm told Marvin Austin has been waived. Again, they tried to trade him first.

Maybe get lucky on Miller

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

The Green Bay Packers have released 22 players. The transactions were announced Saturday by Ted Thompson, Executive Vice President, General Manager and Director of Football Operations.

The Packers released FB Jonathan Amosa, T Andrew Datko, S David Fulton, C Garth Gerhart, RB Alex Green, T Kevin Hughes, WR Charles Johnson, C Patrick Lewis, LB Terrell Manning, CB Loyce Means, DT Jordan Miller, LB Dezman Moses, TE Matthew Mulligan, CB James Nixon, S Chaz Powell, LB Donte Savage, CB Brandon Smith, TE Jake Stoneburner, WR Tyrone Walker, WR Myles White, TE D.J. Williams and QB Vince Young.

http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Packers-release-22-players/a673c538-966f-4aee-bb81-d0fe8fc5fbc7

[Tony Oday]

If AR goes down this year is over, no backup will solve that.

[digitaldean]

Not surprised by Brandon Smith. He was way too inconsistent for the times he was out there. Tough transition for him to try a new position.

[Guiness]

So Coleman seems to make it, eh? Most expected him PS bound. I wonder if they're doing a shuffle to wait until others get their squad set up, then release him?

I also wonder if NFL personnel guys have any sense of humour. If I was TT, first thing I would've done this morning was wall CMIII an Rodgers, then ask them how they were doing, and if the had dinner plans or wanted to come over!

[pbmax]

Not surprised by Brandon Smith. He was way too inconsistent for the times he was out there. Tough transition for him to try a new position.

Yes, but I am with Brandon I expect to see him on the PS. He is just the kind of player who will get there. Bad tape in abundance.

[red]

sucks manning got cut, i was holding out hope for him

but in two years i honestly can't think of one play that he was in the game for

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Possibly 5 starters on the 2013 opening day roster if not for horrible luck with injuries:

Bulaga, Sherrod, Worthy, Collins, and Bishop

[mraynrand]

prediction: Vince Young back on roster as soon as vet guarantee deadline passes.

He is best option for a backup for San FRan game, even if intent is to cut him again.

who gets cut to make room?

[Maxie the Taxi]

Don't know if anyone's posted this. NOTABLE CUTS http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000236408/article/down-to-53-tracking-the-nfls-notable-roster-cuts

It's the roughest time of year in the NFL.

Cuts are underway as teams had until 6 p.m. ET on Saturday to reduce their rosters from 75 to 53 players. You can get the complete list on the roster cuts tracker, but Around The League will keep a running tally of the biggest names right here.

Tim Tebow, New England Patriots quarterback: The Patriots decided they were better off with only two quarterbacks on the roster, and a developmental quarterback possibly going to the practice squad. It's hard to imagine Tebow getting a better chance to keep his career going. It's quite possible that this is the end for him.
NFL roster cut tracker
Teams have until 6 p.m. ET on Saturday to reduce their rosters to 53 players. Who has been cut so far?
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Jonathan Dwyer, Pittsburgh Steelers running back: This was among Saturday's biggest surprises. Dwyer was cut loose despite an improved preseason and Le'Veon Bell's injury. Felix Jones remains on the roster.

Vince Young, Green Bay Packers quarterback: This was a small surprise following Graham Harrell's release. The Packers will either roll with B.J. Coleman as the backup or sign someone off waivers.

Robert Meachem, San Diego Chargers wide receiver: Meachem costs the Chargers $6.875 million this year in dead cap money, but he was of no use for them. He'll go down as one of the worst free agent signings of the last five years.

Antoine Winfield, Seattle Seahawks cornerback: This is why we called the Seahawks the deepest roster in the league. It was reported early in the day that Winfield would be cut, then Jay Glazer of FoxSports.com reported that he would retire. He'll go down as one of the most underrated cornerbacks of his generation.

Brady Quinn, Seattle Seahawks quarterback: Tarvaris Jackson beat him out for the backup job, and the Seahawks only kept two quarterbacks. He could land with a team like Buffalo.

Thaddeus Lewis, Buffalo Bills quarterback: Buffalo only has two quarterbacks on the roster, and rookie EJ Manuel is injured.

David Gettis, Carolina Panthers wide receiver: He injured himself during pregame warmups before the last preseason game. Armanti Edwards and Domenik Hixon both made the team.

Brandon Bogotay and Shayne Graham, Cleveland Browns kicker: It's not often that a team has no kickers on the roster. We're going to go ahead and predict that changes before Week 1.

Marvin Austin, David Carr, and Ryan Torain, New York Giants: Austin only last two years after getting taken in the second round. Torain looked like a potential backup after Andre Brown's injury. Brown made the team. Carr could land elsewhere. Wide receiver Ramses Barden was also placed on injured reserve. Mike Patterson made the team.

Ben Ijalana and Drake Nevis, Indianapolis Colts: These were the second-round and third-round picks in the Polians' last draft in the Colts. Yikes.

Bobby Rainey and Tandon Doss, Baltimore Ravens: Rainey's release means the Ravens are only carrying two running backs. That will surely change. They kept seven wide receivers, including rookies Aaron Mallette and Marlon Brown.

Austin Collie, San Francisco 49ers wide receiver: Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee reports the former Indianapolis Colts won't make the team. At least he stayed healthy in camp.

Ryan Lilja, Denver Broncos: Peyton Manning's former teammates' comeback was a nice story, but his knee bothered him.

Danny Watkins, Philadelphia Eagles guard: The 28-year-old former firefighter was one of the best stories and strangest first-round picks in recent memory. It didn't work out for him under Andy Reid or Chip Kelly.

Greg McElroy, New York Jets quarterback: Matt Simms earned the No. 3 quarterback job. It's quite a story for a player that made virtually no impact in college football.

John Skelton, Cincinnati Bengals quarterback: Josh Johnson won the battle for the backup job behind Andy Dalton.

Tony Moeaki, Kansas City Chiefs tight end: He once flashed serious potential, but hasn't been able to stay healthy. He was waived/injured.

D.J. Williams, Green Bay Packers tight end: He has a lot of athleticism and played a ton with the Packers' starters during training camp. Look for him to get a job.

Max Starks, San Diego Chargers tackle: King Dunlap won the right to protect Philip Rivers' blindside.

Michael Bamiro, Philadelphia Eagles tackle: The mammoth Stoney Brook tackle received a lot of guaranteed money to sign with the Eagles. He could land on the practice squad.

Clay Harbor, Philadelphia Eagles tight end: Chip Kelly decided to keep Emil Igwenagu over Harbor.

Cody Grimm, Tampa Bay Buccaneers safety: Russ' son gave up a lot of big plays in Tampa's now-crowded secondary.

Jermaine Cunningham and Zoltan Mesko, New England Patriots: Mesko has been one of the better punters in the league, so his release comes as a surprise. Ryan Allen won the job with a strong camp. Cunningham, the No. 53 pick in the 2010 draft, never could build on a solid rookie season as a pass rusher.

Rusty Smith, Tennessee Titans quarterback: The Titans just kept two quarterbacks. Smith could find a job elsewhere.

Fernando Velasco, Tennessee Titans center: He started 16 games for the team last season.

Marcus Trufant, Jacksonville Jaguars cornerback: General manager David Caldwell will roll with one of the most inexperienced cornerback groups in football.

John Connor, Bengals fullback: "The Terminator" didn't make the squad. That's good news for "Hard Knocks" regular Orson Charles.

Jimmy Clausen, Carolina Panthers quarterback: Derek Anderson is the team's backup. Clausen's release, as NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reported, comes as little surprise.

Drayton Florence, Carolina Panthers cornerback: Rapoport was told Florence will be released, which comes as a surprise after the team signed him to a one-year, $1 million contract in March.

J'Marcus Webb, Chicago Bears offensive tackle: After struggling through 44 starts over three seasons, the 6-foot-7 offensive tackle tweeted his release Friday morning. It's a good sign for the young Bears offensive line.

Jordan Palmer, Chicago Bears quarterback: The founder of RunPee.com could get a call during the regular season if backup Josh McCown is hurt. The Bears also released quarterback Trent Edwards, according to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune.

David Nelson, Cleveland Browns wide receiver: Rapoport was told by a source informed of the move that Nelson won't make the team in Cleveland. Signed for cheap, Nelson couldn't make an impact this summer after suffering an ACL tear in 2012 and battling a bone bruise in training camp.

Matt Leinart, Buffalo Bills quarterback: On the heels of a rough-and-tumble outing against the Detroit Lions on Thursday, the former first-round draft pick tweeted Friday that he has been released by the Bills. His career probably is over.

Crezdon Butler, Buffalo Bills cornerback: Butler is not a big name, but he was viewed as a potential starter following Stephon Gilmore's injury.

Daniel Fells and Jake Ballard, New England Patriots tight ends: The Patriots have cut ties with two tight ends. Fells has been released after signing a three-year, $5.25 million contract in 2012. Ballard, claimed off waivers from the New York Giants last year, also was cut. Ballard lacked speed after surgery. This is a good sign for Rob Gronkowski, who is not expected to land on the PUP list. Undrafted rookie Zach Sudfeld and Michael Hoomanawanui are the healthy Patriots tight ends. Tim Tebow was not among the Patriots' first 10 cuts.

Brian Banks, Atlanta Falcons linebacker: Jay Glazer of FoxSports.com first reported that Banks was let go, and the Falcons later confirmed the news. His inspirational story might not be over. Glazer hints Banks could have some sort of role with the team.

Dennis Dixon, Philadelphia Eagles quarterback: He never really had a chance after the Eagles drafted Matt Barkley.

Tony Pashos, Washington Redskins offensive tackle: ESPN.com's John Keim first reported that Pashos was released by the team, a move that ensures Tyler Polumbus will start at right tackle for the Redskins.

Mike Thomas, Arizona Cardinals wide receiver: The former Jacksonville Jaguar's career continues a steep decline. He caught 66 passes only a few years ago.

Austin Davis, St. Louis Rams quarterback: Kellen Clemens will backup Sam Bradford.

Anthony Allen and Delone Carter, Baltimore Ravens running backs: The Ravens just traded for Carter, but he didn't last long. It looks like Bobby Rainey will be the team's No. 3 running back.

Dan Carpenter, New York Jets kicker: Carpenter just signed with the Jets a few days ago after he was cut by the Arizona Cardinals. His release leaves Nick Folk as the only kicker on the Jets' roster.

Lance Ball, Denver Broncos running back: Ball's release essentially locks Knowshon Moreno into third-down duties until Monte Ball and Ronnie Hillman shore up their pass protection skills. Undrafted rookie C.J. Anderson is expected to take the fourth running-back spot.

[OS PA]

Max Starks is available. Anybody?

[pittstang5]

keeping Boyd over Miller...I just don't get. Both could have been cut. Boyd showed nothing...nothing.

[pbmax]

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 1m
Former Wisconsin QB Scott Tolzien will be added to #Packers practice squad on Sunday, according to a source.

Sometimes that Packer Report guy is seriously dialed in. He called this 2 hours ago when Tolzien's name hit the wire.

[pbmax]

keeping Boyd over Miller...I just don't get. Both could have been cut. Boyd showed nothing...nothing.

A 4-3 team would have grabbed him. I think they are hoping to get Miller to PS.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I'm pleased they kept Mulumba. I'm OK with Coleman at backup QB. He's got experience in the system and a better arm. Good for Josh Boyd. TE's kept were good choices. Bottom-line TT and MM did a good job.

Minor changes are yet to come, I think.

[pbmax]

Max Starks is available. Anybody?

I suggested this earlier but folks have collected intel that Starks had a miserable camp with the Chargers. I do know the Steelers tried to get rid of him for years.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 1m
Former Wisconsin QB Scott Tolzien will be added to #Packers practice squad on Sunday, according to a source.

Sometimes that Packer Report guy is seriously dialed in. He called this 2 hours ago when Tolzien's name hit the wire.

Tolzien was said by observers to have "pluck" but lacked the tools needed to play in NFL.

[OS PA]

I suggested this earlier but folks have collected intel that Starks had a miserable camp with the Chargers. I do know the Steelers tried to get rid of him for years.

The dude doesn't lack in size. He may have lost a lot in the last three years, which could be an understatement, but I'd bring him in for a tryout at right tackle. Don't let him even get a sniff at left. I remember him being a fairly solid RT, but teams for some reason tried to push him over to LT, and he struggled mightily. The Steelers franchised him as an RT in 2009, and resigned him for 1 season last year which he started all 16 games in. I'm not saying he's the future, or that we should necessarily even sign him, but it wouldn't hurt to bring him in for a tryout. You can't teach 6-8, 345. No chance in hell it happens, but it's a good thought.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Panther's cut David Gettis, a 6-3 220 lb. wide receiver with great hands. I watched him this preseason and was impressed. Great route runner and has quickness. He's injured so he'd be long term project.

Another possibility is Jimmy Clausen, 6-2 210 QB who I always liked. Might benefit from Packers system and coaching and turn into something special.

[wist43]

keeping Boyd over Miller...I just don't get. Both could have been cut. Boyd showed nothing...nothing.

Can't believe they kept Boyd and cut Miller. Absolutely mind numbing...

Just goes to show you that TT will spit on superior talent and keep guys he's drafted just b/c he has a pick invested in them.

Miller was light years better than Boyd - comparison wasn't even close. This is just plain stupid.

[wist43]

How many DL you expect TT to keep when spraypaintedhairguy only plays 2 at a time? :lol:

I'm thinking long term - once Spraypaintedhair gets fired, we're going to need DL again :)

Keeping Boyd over Miller - I am super pissed about that.

That is just TT keeping a guy b/c he drafted him - Boyd showed less than nothing, and Miller looked like a player. This is just TT being an anal asshole about his precious draft picks.

[wist43]

Quarless makes the team?? Boyd??

WTF are they smokin at 1265??

[digitaldean]

I'm thinking long term - once Spraypaintedhair gets fired, we're going to need DL again :)

Keeping Boyd over Miller - I am super pissed about that.

That is just TT keeping a guy b/c he drafted him - Boyd showed less than nothing, and Miller looked like a player. This is just TT being an anal asshole about his precious draft picks.

Agree about dumping Miller over Boyd. Boyd's impact was zilch.

[Freak Out]

Fire Slocum!

[KYPack]

Agree about dumping Miller over Boyd. Boyd's impact was zilch.
Miller that year on PS with the Bears. It showed. Boyd was clueless with his hands (feet, too.)

I can't think he had much upside, he sooo far away from being an NFL DT.

[Joemailman]

I'm thinking long term - once Spraypaintedhair gets fired, we're going to need DL again :)

Keeping Boyd over Miller - I am super pissed about that.

That is just TT keeping a guy b/c he drafted him - Boyd showed less than nothing, and Miller looked like a player. This is just TT being an anal asshole about his precious draft picks.

I think Boyd vs Miller is the wrong argument here. If my count is correct, TT kept 8 OL and 8 DL. Given the relative talent level of the 2 groups, he could have kept 9 DL and 7 OL. It's hard to justify keeping 8 on the OL. Only 6 were really worth keeping, although I agree you have to keep 7, at least until Sherrod is ready to play. I don't have a problem so much with keeping Boyd. The Packers are a draft and develop team. Some guys need more than a month to develop. I just find it hard to justify keeping both Van Roten and Taylor.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Can't believe they kept Boyd and cut Miller. Absolutely mind numbing...

Just goes to show you that TT will spit on superior talent and keep guys he's drafted just b/c he has a pick invested in them.

Miller was light years better than Boyd - comparison wasn't even close. This is just plain stupid.


Miller or Boyd? Who cares. I watched all four preseason games, I don't see what all the fuse is about with Miller.

[wist43]

Miller or Boyd? Who cares. I watched all four preseason games, I don't see what all the fuse is about with Miller.

Miller showed very well - seriously doubt he will clear waivers. Boyd showed less than nothing. TT just kept him b/c he was a draft pick. In anything I've seen of Boyd - going back to college games I looked at of him, I have yet to see him make a single play, or get off a single block.

You don't cut superior players, and keep inferior players, just to save face over a low round draft pick.

This was stupid on top of shit.

[pbmax]

I think Boyd vs Miller is the wrong argument here. If my count is correct, TT kept 8 OL and 8 DL. Given the relative talent level of the 2 groups, he could have kept 9 DL and 7 OL. It's hard to justify keeping 8 on the OL. Only 6 were really worth keeping, although I agree you have to keep 7, at least until Sherrod is ready to play. I don't have a problem so much with keeping Boyd. The Packers are a draft and develop team. Some guys need more than a month to develop. I just find it hard to justify keeping both Van Roten and Taylor.

Taylor is a mauler. Gives them something they don't have otherwise. While I bet DL get hurt with more frequency than OL, the 8th lineman for the Packers O will get more snaps than the 8th D lineman. Neither is going to be active though.

[pbmax]

Miller had two years to make the Bears and the first season made the active roster for one game and the practice squad for the other fifteen. Its not clear but looks like he did not get claimed after he was cut in 2012 final roster cutdown. Packers picked him up off the street in October of 2012.

So rather than just assume bad faith on Thompson's part, could we surmise that there is demand for Boyd's skill set and measurables (5th round pick) beyond that for Miller's good preseason games against backups?

Maybe Ted knows what he is doing and what it will take to slide someone to the PS?


Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 1h
#Packers had 12 TFLs in the preseason last year. Had 24 this year.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Taylor is a mauler.

The exact word used to describe Allen Barbre, as I recall.

I didn't notice any mauled defensive linemen in the preseason 2nd halves.

[Harlan Huckleby]

So Coleman seems to make it, eh? Most expected him PS bound. I wonder if they're doing a shuffle to wait until others get their squad set up, then release him?

ding ding ding! He is placeholder until somebody better is acquired.

[Harlan Huckleby]

who gets cut to make room?
Coleman moves to practice squad.

They will try to find somebody better than Vince Young, but Vinny could return for a stint.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Miller showed very well - seriously doubt he will clear waivers. Boyd showed less than nothing.

I agree with this, but it's hard for us to evaluate. Maybe Boyd has the power to match up with first string offensive linemen. That dreaded "potential" word. Miller might just be the tallest midget.

It will be interesting to see where each of these guys' careers go. And I am just petty enough to keep track.

[wist43]

I agree with this, but it's hard for us to evaluate. Maybe Boyd has the power to match up with first string offensive linemen. That dreaded "potential" word. Miller might just be the tallest midget.

It will be interesting to see where each of these guys' careers go. And I am just petty enough to keep track.

lol... well, works for me - 2 years hence, let's see a report :)

Pretty sure I can pencil Boyd in for a 0 - didn't think he even warranted a draft pick.

[Pugger]

Don't know if anyone's posted this. NOTABLE CUTS http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000236408/article/down-to-53-tracking-the-nfls-notable-roster-cuts

It's the roughest time of year in the NFL.

Cuts are underway as teams had until 6 p.m. ET on Saturday to reduce their rosters from 75 to 53 players. You can get the complete list on the roster cuts tracker, but Around The League will keep a running tally of the biggest names right here.

Tim Tebow, New England Patriots quarterback: The Patriots decided they were better off with only two quarterbacks on the roster, and a developmental quarterback possibly going to the practice squad. It's hard to imagine Tebow getting a better chance to keep his career going. It's quite possible that this is the end for him.
NFL roster cut tracker
Teams have until 6 p.m. ET on Saturday to reduce their rosters to 53 players. Who has been cut so far?
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Jonathan Dwyer, Pittsburgh Steelers running back: This was among Saturday's biggest surprises. Dwyer was cut loose despite an improved preseason and Le'Veon Bell's injury. Felix Jones remains on the roster.

Vince Young, Green Bay Packers quarterback: This was a small surprise following Graham Harrell's release. The Packers will either roll with B.J. Coleman as the backup or sign someone off waivers.

Robert Meachem, San Diego Chargers wide receiver: Meachem costs the Chargers $6.875 million this year in dead cap money, but he was of no use for them. He'll go down as one of the worst free agent signings of the last five years.

Antoine Winfield, Seattle Seahawks cornerback: This is why we called the Seahawks the deepest roster in the league. It was reported early in the day that Winfield would be cut, then Jay Glazer of FoxSports.com reported that he would retire. He'll go down as one of the most underrated cornerbacks of his generation.

Brady Quinn, Seattle Seahawks quarterback: Tarvaris Jackson beat him out for the backup job, and the Seahawks only kept two quarterbacks. He could land with a team like Buffalo.

Thaddeus Lewis, Buffalo Bills quarterback: Buffalo only has two quarterbacks on the roster, and rookie EJ Manuel is injured.

David Gettis, Carolina Panthers wide receiver: He injured himself during pregame warmups before the last preseason game. Armanti Edwards and Domenik Hixon both made the team.

Brandon Bogotay and Shayne Graham, Cleveland Browns kicker: It's not often that a team has no kickers on the roster. We're going to go ahead and predict that changes before Week 1.

Marvin Austin, David Carr, and Ryan Torain, New York Giants: Austin only last two years after getting taken in the second round. Torain looked like a potential backup after Andre Brown's injury. Brown made the team. Carr could land elsewhere. Wide receiver Ramses Barden was also placed on injured reserve. Mike Patterson made the team.

Ben Ijalana and Drake Nevis, Indianapolis Colts: These were the second-round and third-round picks in the Polians' last draft in the Colts. Yikes.

Bobby Rainey and Tandon Doss, Baltimore Ravens: Rainey's release means the Ravens are only carrying two running backs. That will surely change. They kept seven wide receivers, including rookies Aaron Mallette and Marlon Brown.

Austin Collie, San Francisco 49ers wide receiver: Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee reports the former Indianapolis Colts won't make the team. At least he stayed healthy in camp.

Ryan Lilja, Denver Broncos: Peyton Manning's former teammates' comeback was a nice story, but his knee bothered him.

Danny Watkins, Philadelphia Eagles guard: The 28-year-old former firefighter was one of the best stories and strangest first-round picks in recent memory. It didn't work out for him under Andy Reid or Chip Kelly.

Greg McElroy, New York Jets quarterback: Matt Simms earned the No. 3 quarterback job. It's quite a story for a player that made virtually no impact in college football.

John Skelton, Cincinnati Bengals quarterback: Josh Johnson won the battle for the backup job behind Andy Dalton.

Tony Moeaki, Kansas City Chiefs tight end: He once flashed serious potential, but hasn't been able to stay healthy. He was waived/injured.

D.J. Williams, Green Bay Packers tight end: He has a lot of athleticism and played a ton with the Packers' starters during training camp. Look for him to get a job.

Max Starks, San Diego Chargers tackle: King Dunlap won the right to protect Philip Rivers' blindside.

Michael Bamiro, Philadelphia Eagles tackle: The mammoth Stoney Brook tackle received a lot of guaranteed money to sign with the Eagles. He could land on the practice squad.

Clay Harbor, Philadelphia Eagles tight end: Chip Kelly decided to keep Emil Igwenagu over Harbor.

Cody Grimm, Tampa Bay Buccaneers safety: Russ' son gave up a lot of big plays in Tampa's now-crowded secondary.

Jermaine Cunningham and Zoltan Mesko, New England Patriots: Mesko has been one of the better punters in the league, so his release comes as a surprise. Ryan Allen won the job with a strong camp. Cunningham, the No. 53 pick in the 2010 draft, never could build on a solid rookie season as a pass rusher.

Rusty Smith, Tennessee Titans quarterback: The Titans just kept two quarterbacks. Smith could find a job elsewhere.

Fernando Velasco, Tennessee Titans center: He started 16 games for the team last season.

Marcus Trufant, Jacksonville Jaguars cornerback: General manager David Caldwell will roll with one of the most inexperienced cornerback groups in football.

John Connor, Bengals fullback: "The Terminator" didn't make the squad. That's good news for "Hard Knocks" regular Orson Charles.

Jimmy Clausen, Carolina Panthers quarterback: Derek Anderson is the team's backup. Clausen's release, as NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reported, comes as little surprise.

Drayton Florence, Carolina Panthers cornerback: Rapoport was told Florence will be released, which comes as a surprise after the team signed him to a one-year, $1 million contract in March.

J'Marcus Webb, Chicago Bears offensive tackle: After struggling through 44 starts over three seasons, the 6-foot-7 offensive tackle tweeted his release Friday morning. It's a good sign for the young Bears offensive line.

Jordan Palmer, Chicago Bears quarterback: The founder of RunPee.com could get a call during the regular season if backup Josh McCown is hurt. The Bears also released quarterback Trent Edwards, according to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune.

David Nelson, Cleveland Browns wide receiver: Rapoport was told by a source informed of the move that Nelson won't make the team in Cleveland. Signed for cheap, Nelson couldn't make an impact this summer after suffering an ACL tear in 2012 and battling a bone bruise in training camp.

Matt Leinart, Buffalo Bills quarterback: On the heels of a rough-and-tumble outing against the Detroit Lions on Thursday, the former first-round draft pick tweeted Friday that he has been released by the Bills. His career probably is over.

Crezdon Butler, Buffalo Bills cornerback: Butler is not a big name, but he was viewed as a potential starter following Stephon Gilmore's injury.

Daniel Fells and Jake Ballard, New England Patriots tight ends: The Patriots have cut ties with two tight ends. Fells has been released after signing a three-year, $5.25 million contract in 2012. Ballard, claimed off waivers from the New York Giants last year, also was cut. Ballard lacked speed after surgery. This is a good sign for Rob Gronkowski, who is not expected to land on the PUP list. Undrafted rookie Zach Sudfeld and Michael Hoomanawanui are the healthy Patriots tight ends. Tim Tebow was not among the Patriots' first 10 cuts.

Brian Banks, Atlanta Falcons linebacker: Jay Glazer of FoxSports.com first reported that Banks was let go, and the Falcons later confirmed the news. His inspirational story might not be over. Glazer hints Banks could have some sort of role with the team.

Dennis Dixon, Philadelphia Eagles quarterback: He never really had a chance after the Eagles drafted Matt Barkley.

Tony Pashos, Washington Redskins offensive tackle: ESPN.com's John Keim first reported that Pashos was released by the team, a move that ensures Tyler Polumbus will start at right tackle for the Redskins.

Mike Thomas, Arizona Cardinals wide receiver: The former Jacksonville Jaguar's career continues a steep decline. He caught 66 passes only a few years ago.

Austin Davis, St. Louis Rams quarterback: Kellen Clemens will backup Sam Bradford.

Anthony Allen and Delone Carter, Baltimore Ravens running backs: The Ravens just traded for Carter, but he didn't last long. It looks like Bobby Rainey will be the team's No. 3 running back.

Dan Carpenter, New York Jets kicker: Carpenter just signed with the Jets a few days ago after he was cut by the Arizona Cardinals. His release leaves Nick Folk as the only kicker on the Jets' roster.

Lance Ball, Denver Broncos running back: Ball's release essentially locks Knowshon Moreno into third-down duties until Monte Ball and Ronnie Hillman shore up their pass protection skills. Undrafted rookie C.J. Anderson is expected to take the fourth running-back spot.

You guys think he'd be better than EDS?

[mraynrand]

In anything I've seen of Boyd - going back to college games I looked at of him, I have yet to see him make a single play, or get off a single block.

Amazing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un4G7nteB2Q

Probably hard to see with your hands over your eyes