Official 2013 Week 3, Packers -v- Bengals

[SkinBasket]

I'm going to rape Buck and Aikman.

[ThunderDan]

That is going to be a close challenge.

[pbmax]

You can't review down by contact.

[Rutnstrut]

That is not a first down IMO.

IMO, your opinion is correct.

[Joemailman]

FG or go for it?

[MadtownPacker]

We lose a RB a week...MM was just saving him for the Bengal game because he knew we'd need him.Ultimate koolaid sipping reply!! M3 can do no wrong...:alc:

[pbmax]

But that is not what the ref meant.

[King Friday]

Buck and Troy rooting for the Bengals

They are probably tired of covering the Packers...they've done all 3 games this year.

[SkinBasket]

End zone angle makes spot look good. Other angle not so much.

[red]

i think he was about half way between the 30 and 29

[pbmax]

FG or go for it?

FG is useless.

[MadtownPacker]

That's TTs fault for drafting a short WR. :lol:

[Rutnstrut]

You can't review down by contact.

but you can review the spot, correct?

[red]

GO FOR IT you fat pussy

put raji in at fullback

[King Friday]

FG or go for it?

Go for it...QB sneak. We'd only need a half yard.

[ThunderDan]

FG is useless.

Huh, FG no longer ties for bengals.

[denverYooper]

LOL

[red]

i think he was about half way between the 30 and 29

nailed it

[pbmax]

No penetration guys.

[MadtownPacker]

Go for it !!

[red]

nut up baby

[denverYooper]

Gotta be kidding me.

[King Friday]

That is why you don't handoff to the smallish back when the entire defense is aiming for him.

[SkinBasket]

That wasn't how that play is supposed to work!

[red]

fuck me

what a horrible play call. why not sneak it?

[pbmax]

Huh, FG no longer ties for bengals.

Too much time left to worry about that. TD wins if 6 point lead.

Doesn't matter.

[red]

fumble forward?

[pbmax]

Want it to be a TD not possession.

[gbgary]

ugh!

Plenty of time for the o to win it.

[denverYooper]

Talk about a great day going to shit for Franklin.

[SkinBasket]

Kick by the Bengal? Thats the only thing I can think they're talking about...

[red]

it might be better if this is a TD

[Rutnstrut]

Also why you don't go into a game with only two RB's, especially when one of them is injury prone and the other is a rookie.

[ThunderDan]

Too much time left to worry about that. TD wins if 6 point lead.

Doesn't matter.

I like the FG there.

[Guiness]

fumble forward?

maybe, but that would be weak. That looked pretty clean to me.

ref just explained it. I think he was speaking German? Or drunkenese?

[MadtownPacker]

What a shit sequence!! Fuck!

[red]

theses refs are horrible

they shouldn't have to huddle for that. remember the five minutes they took to talk about an offsides earlier?

[SkinBasket]

"There is a situation?"

The only "situation" was a bunch of confused officials...

[denverYooper]

I like the FG there.

Way better than what just happened. That's for sure.

[red]

in all honesty, we should be lossing the way we've played today.

if we win, it will be a gift

[King Friday]

QB sneak was the only playcall to make in that situation...unless you go for FG.

[Guiness]

'The fumble rules do not apply to the defense on 4th down'

What fumble rules???

[Rutnstrut]

Time for Rodgers to earn his money.

[SkinBasket]

Girl power!!

Yay!!

[red]

and what asshole goes into a game with only two running backs on the roster? one of which is injury prone, and the other unproven.

[pbmax]

'The fumble rules do not apply to the defense on 4th down'

What fumble rules???

Can't forward fumble on fourth down for a conversion.

[SkinBasket]

GB needs a score here.

[King Friday]

and what asshole goes into a game with only two running backs on the roster? one of which is injury prone, and the other unproven.

The same guy who decides year after year that Slocum is a good enough special teams coach.

[pbmax]

GB needs a score here.

Thanks Max McGee!

[Rutnstrut]

GB needs a score here.

captain obvious.

[red]

come on guys

[SkinBasket]

captain obvious.

You're one of those guys who can't believe the stories in the Onion are true aren't you?

[King Friday]

Are we going to run that same play all the way down the field?

[red]

someone needs to let M3 know a FG won't do it. need a TD here big guy

[pbmax]

EDS can be so very useless.

[red]

our o-line is just beyond shit, its back up the asshole

franklin made just about all his yards today

[Guiness]

Franklin awful slow to get up there...

[ThunderDan]

Let's finish with the TD from Arod to Nelson.

[SkinBasket]

Ah well, who needs RBs anyway?

[pbmax]

Wow. Nice play for first.

[Rutnstrut]

Don't players play hurt anymore?

[SkinBasket]

Someone doesn't want Ross to have the football.

[SkinBasket]

Keep doing that.

[ThunderDan]

Someone doesn't want Ross to have the football.

Me!!!

[Rutnstrut]

At least Jordy doesn't pussy out.

[pbmax]

Draw. All de lineman are coming up short to jump

[Rutnstrut]

Rodgers pretty much sucks today.

[denverYooper]

Well dammit

[Rutnstrut]

Terrible.

[pbmax]

Throw a short route over the DE your rookie OT has to cut. That's twice that hasn't worked.

They never do it the easy way.

[gbgary]

We never win in cincy.

[ThunderDan]

Ugh.

Ross and Franklin's fumbles killed the Pack.

[red]

heads need to roll this off week

slocum and campen need to go

that was an absolutely pathetic effort from our o-line today

[Rutnstrut]

Ugh.

Ross and Franklin's fumbled killed the Pack.

AR's pick didn't help.

[Guiness]

wow

All kinds of insane. Rodgers with two consecutive batted passes.

[red]

Don't players play hurt anymore?

not on our team. i remember favre sneaking back on to the field to play another down while spitting up blood

bunch of fucking pussies now

NFL ruined what made it so great. its not a tough guy sport anymore, its a sport full of little pussy faggots

[red]

wow

All kinds of insane. Rodgers with two consecutive batted passes.

maybe our o-line will learn how to engage the defenders in the next two weeks

[King Friday]

A poorly played game all around. Team wasn't ready to start the game, and got behind early. We couldn't take advantage of any of their turnovers in the 1st half. We didn't have any RBs left by the end of the game, and our OL couldn't stop the Bengals from knocking down passes left and right on the final drive. This team got a huge kick in the groin this week. McCarthy needs to shake up some stuff during the bye week. It is clear that the current path we are on isn't working.

[pbmax]

AR's pick didn't help.

2 plus 2 batted passes at least

[red]

it baffles me how our defense can look so damn dominate one minute, then the next minute they look like a bunch of morons who have never been on the field before

[red]

2 plus 2 batted passes at least

it was like 4 or 5 batted passes

[Rutnstrut]

not on our team. i remember favre sneaking back on to the field to play another down while spitting up blood

bunch of fucking pussies now

NFL ruined what made it so great. its not a tough guy sport anymore, its a sport full of little pussy faggots

I can't remember who they were playing, but Favre got his bell rung, was basically senseless. He throws a TD the next play and after the game said he didn't remember anything for like a quarter after the big hit. Say what you want about him, but he was tougher than any player on the team now.

[BallHawk]

On the bright side, we've been playing like retards and still been within one score of beating two of the best teams in the NFL on the road.

[Bossman641]

I feel sick

[Joemailman]

Next time Packers play, they should have Burnett, Hayward, Matthews, Lacy, Starks and Finley back. This sucked, but they're okay.

[packer4life]

What a wild and awful finish to that game. Up 30-14 there is no reason your mvp QB needs to be throwing two interceptions to all but kill us. Just so ridiculously ironic this whole game was.

[Rutnstrut]

Next time Packers play, they should have Burnett, Hayward, Matthews, Lacy, Starks and Finley back. This sucked, but they're okay.

Yup, I'm sure they will all be healthy at least a play or two before one of them gets hurt again.

[red]

Next time Packers play, they should have Burnett, Hayward, Matthews, Lacy, Starks and Finley back. This sucked, but they're okay.

and what about the week after that when all those guys are hurt again?

[denverYooper]

It could be worse. They could be the giants.

[Rutnstrut]

It could be worse. They could be the giants.

At least then we wouldn't have high expectations, kinda like in the 70's and 80's.

[packer4life]

No guarantee Matthews' injury isn't your standard Packer 4-week hamstring injury.

[mr_blonde]

You people that think this team is a Super Bowl contender are delusional.

1) McCarthy really isn't that good of coach. Actually, he's out-coached virtually every weekend. The game plan for today was atrocious and he couldn't adjust. Now that Lovie Smith is gone, there probably isn't another coach in the league he will be able to outwit. The good news is that after this season the Super Bowl Championship honeymoon will end -- IMHO.

2) The offense is really over-hyped. Rodgers needs to be great every week if the Packers are going to win. Cincinnati employed the defense the Packers and Rodgers have historically struggled with. Rush the passer with the front four, drop the LB's (forget about the run), press corners and the two safeties over the top. Bend but don't break. You will give up yards with the run and by the pass over the middle but knowing that the Packers aren't patient enough "to take what the defense is giving you" they will eventually give it up (via punt, downs or to a lesser extent by turnover).

3) The OL is a fucking disaster.

4) Injuries to key personnel are an issue EVERY SEASON. It's getting old ... and I'm sure it only will get worse as the season wears on.

5) The defense is just average. They look good for two quarters and pathetic for two quarters ... the secondary is very "leaky". The return of Burnett and Hayward will help but when Matthews ends up on the IR, the Packers will be in big trouble ...

No way a "Super Bowl contender" loses a game this way. Cincinnati gift wrapped a victory and the Packers just pissed it away ...

At best this team is 10-6 but I am thinking 8-8 is more realistic. (Yes, 8-8.) The 2013 Packers will look like world beaters at times (ie Washington) but unfortunately, I believe there are a lot more "Cincinnati" type games to be played this season.

[Rutnstrut]

You people that think this team is a Super Bowl contender are delusional.

1) McCarthy really isn't that good of coach. Actually, he's out-coached virtually every weekend. The game plan for today was atrocious and he couldn't adjust. Now that Lovie Smith is gone, there probably isn't another coach in the league he will be able to outwit. The good news is that after this season the Super Bowl Championship honeymoon will end -- IMHO.

2) The offense is really over-hyped. Rodgers needs to be great every week if the Packers are going to win. Cincinnati employed the defense the Packers and Rodgers have historically struggled with. Rush the passer with the front four, drop the LB's (forget about the run), press corners and the two safeties over the top. Bend but don't break. You will give up yards with the run and by the pass over the middle but knowing that the Packers aren't patient enough "to take what the defense is giving you" they will eventually give it up (via punt, downs or to a lesser extent by turnover).

3) Injuries to key personnel are an issue EVERY SEASON. It's getting old ... and I'm sure will it only will get worse as the season wears on.

4) The defense is just average. They look good for two quarters and pathetic for two quarters ... the secondary is very "leaky". The return of Burnett and Hayward will help but when Matthews ends up on the IR, the Packers will be in big trouble ...

No way a "Super Bowl contender" loses a game this way. Cincinnati gift wrapped a victory and the Packers just pissed it away ...

At best this team is 10-6 but I am thinking 8-8 is more realistic. (Yes, 8-8.) The 2013 Packers will look like world beaters at times (ie Washington) but unfortunately, I believe there are a lot more "Cincinnati" type games to be played this season.

Great post and very good points, be prepared to be assaulted by the kool-aid drinkers.

[packer4life]

You people that think this team is a Super Bowl contender are delusional.

1) McCarthy really isn't that good of coach. Actually, he's out-coached virtually every weekend. The game plan for today was atrocious and he couldn't adjust. Now that Lovie Smith is gone, there probably isn't another coach in the league he will be able to outwit. The good news is that after this season the Super Bowl Championship honeymoon will end -- IMHO.

2) The offense is really over-hyped. Rodgers needs to be great every week if the Packers are going to win. Cincinnati employed the defense the Packers and Rodgers have historically struggled with. Rush the passer with the front four, drop the LB's (forget about the run), press corners and the two safeties over the top. Bend but don't break. You will give up yards with the run and by the pass over the middle but knowing that the Packers aren't patient enough "to take what the defense is giving you" they will eventually give it up (via punt, downs or to a lesser extent by turnover).

3) Injuries to key personnel are an issue EVERY SEASON. It's getting old ... and I'm sure will it only will get worse as the season wears on.

4) The defense is just average. They look good for two quarters and pathetic for two quarters ... the secondary is very "leaky". The return of Burnett and Hayward will help but when Matthews ends up on the IR, the Packers will be in big trouble ...

No way a "Super Bowl contender" loses a game this way. Cincinnati gift wrapped a victory and the Packers just pissed it away ...

At best this team is 10-6 but I am thinking 8-8 is more realistic. (Yes, 8-8.) The 2013 Packers will look like world beaters at times (ie Washington) but unfortunately, I believe there are a lot more "Cincinnati" type games to be played this season.

Overall you make some good points, but looking at our schedule there are not many defenses that we will face which have the talent that the Bengals have. Let's not lose sight that their front 4 is elite. We were limited working the middle of the field when Finley went down. A healthy Starks virtually eliminates the fluke fumble in the 4th quarter that was run back 50+ yards.

The offense was playing at a huge disadvantage, and on top of that it was a tough road game. The sky is not falling. We lost a ridiculous game, crazy things happen in Cincy, so it goes...

[pbmax]

He always makes good points when the Packers lose. Its the other 67% of the time he seems to have nothing to say.

[Cleft Crusty]

You people that think this team is a Super Bowl contender are delusional.

1) McCarthy really isn't that good of coach. Actually, he's out-coached virtually every weekend. The game plan for today was atrocious and he couldn't adjust. Now that Lovie Smith is gone, there probably isn't another coach in the league he will be able to outwit. The good news is that after this season the Super Bowl Championship honeymoon will end -- IMHO.

2) The offense is really over-hyped. Rodgers needs to be great every week if the Packers are going to win. Cincinnati employed the defense the Packers and Rodgers have historically struggled with. Rush the passer with the front four, drop the LB's (forget about the run), press corners and the two safeties over the top. Bend but don't break. You will give up yards with the run and by the pass over the middle but knowing that the Packers aren't patient enough "to take what the defense is giving you" they will eventually give it up (via punt, downs or to a lesser extent by turnover).

3) The OL is a fucking disaster.

4) Injuries to key personnel are an issue EVERY SEASON. It's getting old ... and I'm sure it only will get worse as the season wears on.

5) The defense is just average. They look good for two quarters and pathetic for two quarters ... the secondary is very "leaky". The return of Burnett and Hayward will help but when Matthews ends up on the IR, the Packers will be in big trouble ...

No way a "Super Bowl contender" loses a game this way. Cincinnati gift wrapped a victory and the Packers just pissed it away ...

At best this team is 10-6 but I am thinking 8-8 is more realistic. (Yes, 8-8.) The 2013 Packers will look like world beaters at times (ie Washington) but unfortunately, I believe there are a lot more "Cincinnati" type games to be played this season.

Come to the Crusty Chat and I will upbraid you. No one but an internet troll could write this drivel after a Packers team rolls up nearly 200 yards rushing and forces a score of turnovers with fabulous defensive play.

[3irty1]

Most super bowl champs don't look like superbowl champs the September before. I'd rather have some adversity to overcome than stroll through the season unchallenged into the playoffs. Historically it doesn't end well for those teams.

[swede]

Most super bowl champs don't look like superbowl champs the September before. I'd rather have some adversity to overcome than stroll through the season unchallenged into the playoffs. Historically it doesn't end well for those teams.

That's the right mix, 3rty, and that is the right tone to take. This is the loss I was predicting and it took four key injuries, Rodgers having more picks than TD's, and a devastating fumble to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. This team has a chance to healthy up now and they will begin what I have been calling the "Fun Run" in two weeks. The team needed a slap in the face, and the coaches can see who is and who isn't making plays. With a losing record to use as the bommyknocker they can come back and dispense playing time justice.

I do have a little worry tempering my enthusiasm. First, the offensive line issues may be too much to overcome. Sherraga was the plan--not BakhBarc, and EDS is not good. The other thing that worries me is McCarthy. If his love life is like his play calling the show must be over pretty quick. We finally have a running game working and we lose the ball twice on long picks. If the offensive line can just try to not be horrible, and if McCarthy can learn to not be McCarthy we will really enjoy the coming weeks.

[Rutnstrut]

Remember before too many of you get down on EDS, most of you said almost any schmuck could be plugged in at center and suffice. Whether you all want to admit it or not, center is yet another position that TT let a quality player get away, and they've been struggling at the position since. That all said I do agree EDS sucks donkey dong.

[denverYooper]

Zach Kruse ‏@zachkruse2 42m

Andy Dalton threw for 168 of his 235 passing yards after Clay Matthews left the game.

[Rutnstrut]

Overall you make some good points, but looking at our schedule there are not many defenses that we will face which have the talent that the Bengals have. Let's not lose sight that their front 4 is elite. We were limited working the middle of the field when Finley went down. A healthy Starks virtually eliminates the fluke fumble in the 4th quarter that was run back 50+ yards.

The offense was playing at a huge disadvantage, and on top of that it was a tough road game. The sky is not falling. We lost a ridiculous game, crazy things happen in Cincy, so it goes...

The thing is, it seems a healthy Starks will never happen.

[pittstang5]

Sounds like I missed a pretty shitty game. I saw the 1st Q score of 0 - 14 and was like, what the hell. I figured someone must have fumbled or something. I don't know what happened, nor do I care at the moment. I'm just pissed they fought to come back, take the lead, then pissed it away. I kept checking the score and saw the PAckers making a come back and then the lead. But, seems like if they don't have at least a 2 plus TD lead going into the 4th quarter, this team can't/won't win.

When I saw the score was 30 - 34 and the Packers had about 3 minutes, maybe 4 mins left, I knew they had a chance and really thought, WOW, maybe they will pull it off. It's been so long since they did this, they have to be due. They only need a TD and have plenty of time to do it. What was I thinking?

When was the last time this team actually had a last minute come back. I seriously can't remember.


So, got home and read some quick reviews of the game.. Now, I gotta rant.

McCarthy, your a dumbass. You told the media that the last time you went into a game with only 2 RB, its was a mistake and you paid for it because one got injured. So, what do you do - you do it again. I'm just an average fan, but with Starks injury history and just his running style, even I knew he wasn't going to last long. Murphy's law McCarthy, you should know better.

Next...

Matthews - WTF? Hamstring...AGAIN. EVERY FUCKING YEAR?!?! Seriously, why, every year do you leave a game with a hamstring injury - usually in a close game when we really need you. Very sick of this. I wait every year for you to leave cause of your damn hamstring.

Seems the last couptimes they've played Cinci, Cinci has made the Packers their bitch. I'm sick of it. I guess I should be happy they only play them every 4 years, but come on!

[Cleft Crusty]

McCarthy, your a dumbass. You told the media that the last time you went into a game with only 2 RB, its was a mistake and you paid for it because one got injured. So, what do you do - you do it again. I'm just an average fan, but with Starks injury history and just his running style, even I knew he wasn't going to last long. Murphy's law McCarthy, you should know better.

who else should have been activated? Did it really hurt them? They post 182 rushing yards and you're ripping the choices McCarthy made at the running back position? Astonishing.

[red]

who else should have been activated? Did it really hurt them? They post 182 rushing yards and you're ripping the choices McCarthy made at the running back position? Astonishing.

you go find one

we had a few plays at the end of the game where we had no running back, at a time when we should have been running the ball because it was there all day

no excuse for not being able to field a RB

[pittstang5]

who else should have been activated? Did it really hurt them? They post 182 rushing yards and you're ripping the choices McCarthy made at the running back position? Astonishing.

You release Ross or Boyd or someone and you sign a RB. With this conservative medical staff, you knew Lacy wasn't going to play. Your options were Starks, who has a history of getting hurt and a rookie who sucked ass in TC and Preseason. McCarthy rolled the dice...again and it bit him in the ass.

I'm not saying that this was McCarthy's only fault today, just one thing that bothered me and i needed to rant about.

[pbmax]

Remember before too many of you get down on EDS, most of you said almost any schmuck could be plugged in at center and suffice. Whether you all want to admit it or not, center is yet another position that TT let a quality player get away, and they've been struggling at the position since. That all said I do agree EDS sucks donkey dong.

Could not afford Wells. But his replacement may already be on the roster. EDS does not look like the solution and I think Thompson agrees with you.

However, he is not the tire fire Saturday was and he has somehow gotten in the way enough to block for 2 100 yard runners. Its simply that his physical limitations mean he cannot be more than average.

[pbmax]

Its no longer up to team medical staff. Independent neurologist needs to clear Lacy first.

[Harlan Huckleby]

You release Ross or Boyd or someone and you sign a RB. With this conservative medical staff, you knew Lacy wasn't going to play. Your options were Starks, who has a history of getting hurt and a rookie who sucked ass in TC and Preseason. McCarthy rolled the dice...again and it bit him in the ass.

I'm not saying that this was McCarthy's only fault today, just one thing that bothered me and i needed to rant about.

I don't think the RB situation hurt the offense today. Some iffy play from TEs was more of a prob.

[channtheman]

Rodgers looked pretty shitty today. A couple of drops sure, but possibly his worst game in years.

[PA Pack Fan]

Rodgers looked pretty shitty today. A couple of drops sure, but possibly his worst game in years.

This for sure.

[packer4life]

You release Ross or Boyd or someone and you sign a RB. With this conservative medical staff, you knew Lacy wasn't going to play. Your options were Starks, who has a history of getting hurt and a rookie who sucked ass in TC and Preseason. McCarthy rolled the dice...again and it bit him in the ass.

I'm not saying that this was McCarthy's only fault today, just one thing that bothered me and i needed to rant about.

This is great analysis coming from a guy who didn't even watch the game.

[lionstar]

Rodgers looked pretty shitty today. A couple of drops sure, but possibly his worst game in years.
absolutely!

[packer4life]

What's crazy looking at the final stats, is that GB outgained the Bengals in passing yards, rushing yards, and total yards. We had more TOP by a significant margin and converted more first downs.

3 second half turnovers are just brutal. Honestly ARod's one throw to Cobb on an out-and-up was an incredibly poor decision. Shocking to see Arod do that. He was really playing rattled all game and took some killer hits.

[Guiness]

who else should have been activated? Did it really hurt them? They post 182 rushing yards and you're ripping the choices McCarthy made at the running back position? Astonishing.

Ripping the lack of healthy bodies at the position. The Pack was running all over them, the OL despite being unable to pass block seemed to be getting yards for both Starks and Franklin. Can't believe I'm agreeing with Pittstang, but ya, I was also pretty damn sure as well that Starks was going down sooner rather than later. When Franklin went back in, he was there for blocking or as a decoy. If there'd been another RB available, things might've gone a bit differently at then end of the game.

[pittstang5]

Can't believe I'm agreeing with Pittstang

Wow, really? Am I THAT guy. Maybe I should go away for a while.

[Cleft Crusty]

Ripping the lack of healthy bodies at the position. The Pack was running all over them, the OL despite being unable to pass block seemed to be getting yards for both Starks and Franklin. Can't believe I'm agreeing with Pittstang, but ya, I was also pretty damn sure as well that Starks was going down sooner rather than later. When Franklin went back in, he was there for blocking or as a decoy. If there'd been another RB available, things might've gone a bit differently at then end of the game.

Who? you have one week - last week to sign a guy and cut one of your own, have him be active and also sit someone else, all for the chance your two running backs both get injured. name the guys: who do they sign, who do they cut, who is inactive.

[packer4life]

I did post this before the game, but they were too cautious with Lacy. They could've made him active for the game, and use him only as an emergency 3rd RB if needed (which was needed for a few plays on the last drive). Ultimately, this was not the major cause for the loss so its a moot point.

[pbmax]

You can't unless he is cleared by the independent neurologist. While the Packers have no reason to tell us what the exact status is, we also have NO reason to believe he has been cleared. The only hurdle he cleared this week we know for certain was attending practice.

[packer4life]

I can almost guarantee he was held for "precautionary reasons". He could've played if needed. Trainers on Monday said he would be good to go. I don't have the article, but that info was definintely given to us readers.

[Bossman641]

Rodgers looked pretty shitty today. A couple of drops sure, but possibly his worst game in years.

I agree, but I don't blame him. I wouldn't be surprised to see he was under pressure on over 50% of his dropbacks.

[pbmax]

I can almost guarantee he was held for "precautionary reasons". He could've played if needed. Trainers on Monday said he would be good to go. I don't have the article, but that info was definintely given to us readers.

I'd love to see it because McCarthy was on record Monday and Wednesday that he still had hurdles to clear. Trainers do not have the last word.

[pbmax]

I hope this game puts to rest the notion that running the football often is a good idea.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I hope this game puts to rest the notion that Jeremy Ross returning kickoffs and punts is a good idea.

[run pMc]

Turnovers killed them today. If Rodgers throws one less INT I think they win. The Franklin fumble left me gobsmacked and apoplectic. 4th and half yard and they give up a TD. The Ross fumble was costly too.
If it wasn't the turnovers, it was the injuries. Losing Finley, Matthews, Starks, etc. to go along with those already out really hurt their chances.

Woulda shoulda coulda.

The Bengals' DL won that game -- Rodgers was off most of the game. Gotta give them credit
Seems like the refs were calling a weird game, and when the Bengals HC actually win a meaningful challenge you know the stars are not aligned for a Packers win.

Sigh. They have 2 weeks to get ready for the Lions, get healthy, and be mad as hell about being 1-2.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Turnovers killed them today. If Rodgers throws one less INT I think they win. The Franklin fumble left me gobsmacked and apoplectic. 4th and half yard and they give up a TD. The Ross fumble was costly too.
If it wasn't the turnovers, it was the injuries. Losing Finley, Matthews, Starks, etc. to go along with those already out really hurt their chances.

Woulda shoulda coulda.

The Bengals' DL won that game -- Rodgers was off most of the game. Gotta give them credit
Seems like the refs were calling a weird game, and when the Bengals HC actually win a meaningful challenge you know the stars are not aligned for a Packers win.

Sigh. They have 2 weeks to get ready for the Lions, get healthy, and be mad as hell about being 1-2.

That 4th down play was a back-breaker. But the 4th down play that ended the game for the Packers was equally critical. 4th and 5 at the Bengals 20. A couple of passes already batted down. Why didn't Rodgers roll out? By doing so he virtually eliminates the possibility of a pass being batted away...plus he has the option of running.

I wondered the same thing on the 4th and 1/2 yard play. Fake the Franklin dive and then have Rodgers roll out.

Stubby was imagination-challenged this game.

[packer4life]

Turnovers killed them today. If Rodgers throws one less INT I think they win. The Franklin fumble left me gobsmacked and apoplectic. 4th and half yard and they give up a TD. The Ross fumble was costly too.
If it wasn't the turnovers, it was the injuries. Losing Finley, Matthews, Starks, etc. to go along with those already out really hurt their chances.

Woulda shoulda coulda.

The Bengals' DL won that game -- Rodgers was off most of the game. Gotta give them credit
Seems like the refs were calling a weird game, and when the Bengals HC actually win a meaningful challenge you know the stars are not aligned for a Packers win.

Sigh. They have 2 weeks to get ready for the Lions, get healthy, and be mad as hell about being 1-2.

If Cobb gains an extra inch this game is a Packers W and we all leave feeling the offense was balanced and the defense was finally popping out some footballs and making big plays (i.e. turnovers). A true game of inches, I'm so spent thinking about this one.

[mr_blonde]

He always makes good points when the Packers lose. Its the other 67% of the time he seems to have nothing to say.

You're like the Cliff Clavin of packerrats.com

An arrogant, pompous, know it all. You have an opinion on EVERYTHING! And I mean EVERYTHING.!! You are simply just an asshole who gives out mostly useless opinion and information.


I bet you still live with your mother too.

[Joemailman]

I hope this game puts to rest the notion that turning the ball over 4 times is a good idea.

[pbmax]

Funny, I think a poster who shows up 124 times to predict gloom, and defines gloom as not winning a championship is the one who wants to be branded a know it all. Same as wist, predicting a non-championship year after year as evidence for multiple failures of a team is a winning bet 90% of the time. Everyone else is happy with mediocrity!

How about you say something (about the team and not posters) that is not blindingly obvious (Rodgers needs to play better!, the O line is a mess!) and has not been said better by every other poster on the forum since the offseason.

You think you are telling some kind of revelatory truth to power (or maybe asking us to face fact) but who you really are is the guy who showed up on December 8th, 1941 warning that the Japanese might be planning something.

Otherwise, good luck with your trolling.

[mr_blonde]

Funny, I think a poster who shows up 124 times to predict gloom, and defines gloom as not winning a championship is the one who wants to be branded a know it all. Same as wist, predicting a non-championship year after year as evidence for multiple failures of a team is a winning bet 90% of the time. Everyone else is happy with mediocrity!

How about you say something (about the team and not posters) that is not blindingly obvious (Rodgers needs to play better!, the O line is a mess!) and has not been said better by every other poster on the forum since the offseason.

You think you are telling some kind of revelatory truth to power (or maybe asking us to face fact) but who you really are is the guy who showed up on December 8th, 1941 warning that the Japanese might be planning something.

Otherwise, good luck with your trolling.

Hey Cliff.
Did you know Coca Cola was originally green?

[MadtownPacker]

You're like the Cliff Clavin of packerrats.com

An arrogant, pompous, know it all. You have an opinion on EVERYTHING! And I mean EVERYTHING.!! You are simply just an asshole who gives out mostly useless opinion and information.


I bet you still live with your mother too.If you don't agree with PB then post about it here and state your point more often. But you only come out when the ship is leaking to talk crap. That's not a problem but don't just pop up to call people out on a personal level or see yourself removed from this forum. Basically, make yourself worth something or expect to get treated like you are nothing.

[Jimx29]

Lets lighten it up some.

My reaction at the end of the 4th quarter of the Packer game, then changing channels to see the last 17 seconds of the vikings game

http://i.imgur.com/jCq5LKj.gif

[mraynrand]

waittasecond...I thought Harlan was Cliff Clavin.

[SkinBasket]

Why is everyone here so gay?

It was an entertaining game where the Packers did some amazing things and some hard to believe bone headed things. Like Ms. Packer4life said, one more bounce goes our way and the packers win - everyone would be glowing about a revived running game amid adversity, a QB who gave us a glimpse into the life of a bears fan for one game, and a defense that played with intensity, and outside of a couple of mistakes - had a pretty amazing game. You aren't going to win every game, and I for one find the intrigue of competition more entertaining than the drubbing GB gave those terribly offensive Indians last week. Yeah, I would be "happier" on some level for a few hours had they won, but I also enjoyed simply watching the game, unlike some folks who freak the fuck out about every play that doesn't result in a TD or an INT. It's time for people to grow the fuck up and enjoy the journey, not act like some teenager XBox trophy collecting douchebag beating up 7 year olds in Madden while shouting obscene internet memes into a headset that resets the game if the kid gets a first down.

[denverYooper]

Why is everyone here so gay?

It was an entertaining game where the Packers did some amazing things and some hard to believe bone headed things. Like Ms. Packer4life said, one more bounce goes our way and the packers win - everyone would be glowing about a revived running game amid adversity, a QB who gave us a glimpse into the life of a bears fan for one game, and a defense that played with intensity, and outside of a couple of mistakes - had a pretty amazing game. You aren't going to win every game, and I for one find the intrigue of competition more entertaining than the drubbing GB gave those terribly offensive Indians last week. Yeah, I would be "happier" on some level for a few hours had they won, but I also enjoyed simply watching the game, unlike some folks who freak the fuck out about every play that doesn't result in a TD or an INT. It's time for people to grow the fuck up and enjoy the journey, not act like some teenager XBox trophy collecting douchebag beating up 7 year olds in Madden while shouting obscene internet memes into a headset that resets the game if the kid gets a first down.

Nice. I was just thinking about how crazy that game was. If you'd tell me the defense would give up 20 points and take the ball away 4 times and they'd roll up almost 200 yards rushing on a good D I would have thought they'd have strolled. But man, Rodgers and his highly touted pack of receivers got shown up by the Red Rifle. In the end, it all hung up on the crazy ass challenge/fumble sequence and the Packers "high powered" O floundering the game away with a whimper at the end. They probably had it coming... that pregame interview sequence with Pam Oliver left me feeling like they were going to let the team down.

[denverYooper]

I feel like this is actually a better all around team than they've had in a few years. The defense is improving and they look like they'll actually have a running game if they can keep more than one guy walking back there.

[cheesner]

When your level of football understanding and analytic skills extends only to: "Did the Packers win? No? Then they suck."; you can expect the negative tone from some posters.

There were a lot of positives to take from the game. Having a few more players back from injury; getting some of these rookies more experience; allowing the OLine and DLine to gel - the near future as well as the long term future are looking pretty bright.

[mraynrand]

When your level of football understanding and analytic skills extends only to: "Did the Packers win? No? Then they suck."

Is that a direct quote from Mr. Blonde?

[mraynrand]

Why is everyone here so gay?

who can say?

http://packerrats.com/image.php?u=130&dateline=1371926689

smaller, slower, weaker

[run pMc]

When your level of football understanding and analytic skills extends only to: "Did the Packers win? No? Then they suck."; you can expect the negative tone from some posters.

There were a lot of positives to take from the game. Having a few more players back from injury; getting some of these rookies more experience; allowing the OLine and DLine to gel - the near future as well as the long term future are looking pretty bright.

True. Is there a Studs and Duds thread?
Franklin would fall into both categories.

Rodgers had an off game and proved he's human. You can bet with the extra time and his competitive juices he'll be ready for DET. I think the WRs will too.
The rookies didn't do too bad: Datone Jones blocked an XP, Bach made mistakes but didn't embarrass himself, Franklin broke 100 yards. Lacy has shown potential if he can stay healthy. Banjo didn't make too many mistakes.
The bye comes at a good time for CM3, Hayward, and Burnett to make it back. The team hasn't fielded a healthy team and this is their best chance to get there.

There are of course some downsides as well, but I think they are in better shape than a lot of teams. They have some cap decisions to make, but they have some players to backfill departing FA's. They'll need a solid draft, though.

I think they can contend for a playoff spot and make some noise in the postseason. They'll need some help from Lady Luck and Uncle Mo' to make the SB, but it's not like they're JAX or OAK.
They've had a tough start to the schedule -- CIN is no pushover. This is a team that is young in a lot of places and should get better as the season goes on.

If the injuries pile up or nobody steps forward from the Banjo/McMillian/Jennings trio they'll have trouble. Dalton did most of his damage after Clay went out. The OL still has some scary lapses and the interior depth is wanting. Quarless might not get his legs back.
Take a deep breath, and remember it's only Week 3 of a long season. If they can consistently produce the threat of a run game this is a dangerous team.

[mraynrand]

just make the tournament and avoid playing in Seattle

[pbmax]

just make the tournament and avoid playing in Seattle

Less worried about Seattle than San Fran still. Even if Seachickens are better, matchup is more favorable. My assessment may change if Percy Harvin can actually play and make a difference this year, but for now, Packers D can throw all the resources at the run and then try to catch Golden Tate in a tiger pit.

[run pMc]

Studs and Duds thread...
http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?25915-GB-CIN-Studs-and-Duds

[mraynrand]

Less worried about Seattle than San Fran still. Even if Seachickens are better, matchup is more favorable. My assessment may change if Percy Harvin can actually play and make a difference this year, but for now, Packers D can throw all the resources at the run and then try to catch Golden Tate in a tiger pit.

I'm not so much worried about playing Seattle as I am about playing in Seattle

[Freak Out]

Pacman. LOL.

[mraynrand]

Pacman. LOL.

There's no Joy or Stick in that joystick. Maybe should be "Ms. Pacman"

[pbmax]

I'm not so much worried about playing Seattle as I am about playing in Seattle

Fair point.

[mr_blonde]

If you don't agree with PB then post about it here and state your point more often. But you only come out when the ship is leaking to talk crap. That's not a problem but don't just pop up to call people out on a personal level or see yourself removed from this forum. Basically, make yourself worth something or expect to get treated like you are nothing.

"If you don't agree with PB then post about it here and state your point more often. But you only come out when the ship is leaking to talk crap."


First, it was I who was attacked by Clavin for only posting when the Packers lose. She’s the one that “popped up” and started the personal attacks. Other posters have commented on my posts. Some agree, some don’t. But many of those that disagree provide some logical rationale for their disagreement. They don’t attack because I post infrequently and primarily post when the “ship is leaking”.

Second, where is it written that a poster cannot post “when the ship is leaking”? If that’s the case maybe you need to revise the Rules For example, -- No poster shall be critical of the Packers unless he/she has a minimum of 20,000 posts or average a minimum 10 posts per day for five years.

Third, believe it or not there are a few posters here who are normal and actually have jobs and work. In addition, the few of us have families and a social life outside of packerrats.com. We don’t have time to post every day, ten times per day for seven years straight and if we did have the time, it wouldn’t be wasted on some stupid social website or forum.

I will be frank, unless maybe you are in junior high school or high school anyone posting on any website/social media site 10+ times per day over an extended period of years is just flat out weird and pathetic. In addition, for you and Clavin to put me down for only posting 100 times in my life makes you well, weird and pathetic. Just because you and your packerrats ilk like Clavin collect welfare checks and live at home with mommy and daddy, doesn’t mean we all do. Yes, there are a few of us who post that actually do work and pay taxes too! We don't toggle back and forth all day long, seven days a week between packerrats.com and various gay porn websites. Being the narcissist you are, I’m sure that this is really difficult for you to comprehend.


"That's not a problem but don't just pop up to call people out on a personal level or see yourself removed from this forum."


Oh no!!!! A threat! Honestly, do you really think I give a shit if you ban me from this forum?!? If that makes you feel all powerful, a master of the universe or just another tough guy, have had it … you little twerp.

"Basically, make yourself worth something or expect to get treated like you are nothing."


Geez, knock it off with piousness and sanctimony! It’s a fricking message board!!!! A fricking message board!!!! However, I suppose that's asking too much from a narcissistic, sick pervert, ne'erdowell like you and your ilk. Judging from the number of posts by you (as well as so many other loser posters here), I’m sure being part of packerrats.com is your entire life, your dreams, your only love.

Pathetic.

Now go fuck yourself .... ENJOY!

[George Cumby]

"If you don't agree with PB then post about it here and state your point more often. But you only come out when the ship is leaking to talk crap."


First, it was I who was attacked by Clavin for only posting when the Packers lose. She’s the one that “popped up” and started the personal attacks. Other posters have commented on my posts. Some agree, some don’t. But many of those that disagree provide some logical rationale for their disagreement. They don’t attack because I post infrequently and primarily post when the “ship is leaking”.

Second, where is it written that a poster cannot post “when the ship is leaking”? If that’s the case maybe you need to revise the Rules For example, -- No poster shall be critical of the Packers unless he/she has a minimum of 20,000 posts or average a minimum 10 posts per day for five years.

Third, believe it or not there are a few posters here who are normal and actually have jobs and work. In addition, the few of us have families and a social life outside of packerrats.com. We don’t have time to post every day, ten times per day for seven years straight and if we did have the time, it wouldn’t be wasted on some stupid social website or forum.

I will be frank, unless maybe you are in junior high school or high school anyone posting on any website/social media site 10+ times per day over an extended period of years is just flat out weird and pathetic. In addition, for you and Clavin to put me down for only posting 100 times in my life makes you well, weird and pathetic. Just because you and your packerrats ilk like Clavin collect welfare checks and live at home with mommy and daddy, doesn’t mean we all do. Yes, there are a few of us who post that actually do work and pay taxes too! We don't toggle back and forth all day long, seven days a week between packerrats.com and various gay porn websites. Being the narcissist you are, I’m sure that this is really difficult for you to comprehend.


"That's not a problem but don't just pop up to call people out on a personal level or see yourself removed from this forum."


Oh no!!!! A threat! Honestly, do you really think I give a shit if you ban me from this forum?!? If that makes you feel all powerful, a master of the universe or just another tough guy, have had it … you little twerp.

"Basically, make yourself worth something or expect to get treated like you are nothing."


Geez, knock it off with piousness and sanctimony! It’s a fricking message board!!!! A fricking message board!!!! However, I suppose that's asking too much from a narcissistic, sick pervert, ne'erdowell like you and your ilk. Judging from the number of posts by you (as well as so many other loser posters here), I’m sure being part of packerrats.com is your entire life, your dreams, your only love.

Pathetic.

Now go fuck yourself .... ENJOY!

:drma:

[Harlan Huckleby]

We don't toggle back and forth all day long, seven days a week between packerrats.com and various gay porn websites.

ouch.



However, I suppose that's asking too much from a narcissistic, sick pervert, ne'erdowell like you and your ilk. Judging from the number of posts by you (as well as so many other loser posters here), I’m sure being part of packerrats.com is your entire life, your dreams, your only love.

heee heee heee. Mr. Blonde, I like the cut of your jib. Keep it coming.

I'm not sure who you are ranting at here, but if it is Madtown, packerrats is not his only love, he also is very attached to chorizo.

You are correct that 100% of the regulars here are unemployable, unlovable, unfuckable losers. It's good to see a God-fearing family man with a job and some self-respect added to the mix.

[Harlan Huckleby]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Chorizo1-edited.jpg/371px-Chorizo1-edited.jpg

mmmmm chorizo

[swede]

You are correct that 100% of the regulars here are unemployable, unlovable, unfuckable losers.

Not quite 100%. Joemailman had a job once.

[denverYooper]

Not quite 100%. Joemailman had a job once.

Until the Postal Service started scaling back their operation.

[red]

You are correct that 100% of the regulars here are unemployable, unlovable, unfuckable losers.

i once got a handie behind a dumpster at an arby's. does that count?

[mraynrand]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Chorizo1-edited.jpg/371px-Chorizo1-edited.jpg

mmmmm chorizo

OMG Harlan, where did you put that thing?

[George Cumby]

i once got a handie behind a dumpster at an arby's. does that count?

Not if it was pro bono.

[HarveyWallbangers]

What happened to JH? This thread had his last post about a month ago.

[Freak Out]

Good question? Dude was all about the Packers.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Good question? Dude was all about the Packers.

If he isn't incarcerated, he'd enjoy this run.