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Tony Oday
10-07-2013, 12:17 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/green-bay-packers-clay-matthews-fractures-thumb-against-015600523--nfl.html

Seems like he could play through it I hope.

pittstang5
10-07-2013, 06:17 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/green-bay-packers-clay-matthews-fractures-thumb-against-015600523--nfl.html

Seems like he could play through it I hope.

That article mentoned Nick Perry left with an ankle injury. Unless he hurt it later, it was just his shoe that came off and he couldn't get it back on.

pbmax
10-07-2013, 07:09 AM
That article mentoned Nick Perry left with an ankle injury. Unless he hurt it later, it was just his shoe that came off and he couldn't get it back on.

Perry told reporters he was hurt on that play and it was his ankle.

pittstang5
10-07-2013, 07:10 AM
Perry told reporters he was hurt on that play and it was his ankle.

Oh great!

denverYooper
10-07-2013, 08:16 AM
Perry did come back in, though, and proceeded to get a sack. Maybe Jolly's grit is rubbing off on some of these guys.

digitaldean
10-07-2013, 04:48 PM
ESPN's Schefter just said Matthews is expected to miss a month. ARRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!

pittstang5
10-07-2013, 05:04 PM
ESPN's Schefter just said Matthews is expected to miss a month. ARRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9788354/clay-matthews-green-bay-packers-expected-miss-1-month-source-says

I guess putting on "The Club" is not an option.

McCarthy stated that he was still being tested and ESPN says he's going to miss a month.

Who do you believe? My guess...ESPN...sadly.

red
10-07-2013, 05:21 PM
so let me translate that for you

packers training staff says a month

in real world speak, that means he's done for the year

from a broken fucking thumb......... FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK

Fritz
10-07-2013, 05:21 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9788354/clay-matthews-green-bay-packers-expected-miss-1-month-source-says

I guess putting on "The Club" is not an option.

McCarthy stated that he was still being tested and ESPN says he's going to miss a month.

Who do you believe? My guess...ESPN...sadly.

So anybody who felt bad that the Lions had to play without Megatron...well, quit feeling bad.

A month, huh?

I'm guessing Brad Jones will be about a month, too.

It's getting ridiculous, as it always does around here with injuries.

And don't tell me all NFL teams get this many injuries, cuz the Lions sure don't. C. Johnson's going to play next week. He misses a total of one game. The Leos are a pretty healthy team in comparison with GB.

red
10-07-2013, 05:23 PM
you just can't be lost for the season from breaking a fucking finger

its fucking football for christ sakes, not patty cake

nut up, wrap it up, and go fucking play

Fritz
10-07-2013, 05:24 PM
Can one "nut up" with a broken thumb, or are both thumbs require for this "nutting up"?

red
10-07-2013, 05:28 PM
Can one "nut up" with a broken thumb, or are both thumbs require for this "nutting up"?

no thumbs required

he's a line backer, what the fuck does he need thumbs for? honestly

Fritz
10-07-2013, 05:36 PM
He needs them to gouge the opponent's eyes when they're at the bottom of the pile. Everybody knows that.

Guiness
10-07-2013, 05:40 PM
Pretty surprised by a month (and talk of possibly the season) for a thumb as well. I also expected they would just wrap it and give him a club. Like to know more details about this break!

Pugger
10-07-2013, 06:25 PM
I suppose this month will give him enough time to heal up that hammy. Besides that one sack he was pretty quiet yesterday. I thought Perry and especially Neal played very well.

HarveyWallbangers
10-07-2013, 07:07 PM
4 week to possible season ending injury for a guy we can't afford to lose. Ugh!

Harlan Huckleby
10-07-2013, 07:11 PM
As long as he is back a little before playoffs the Packers should be fine. He'll need a game or two to get used to playing with a club.

Neal & Perry can play. Losing Francois hurts a lot, that guy could play inside or out, and now Packers have serious depth problems at all LB positions.

George Cumby
10-07-2013, 07:34 PM
Next Man Up, Bitches!

Neal is looking stronger and stronger as the season progresses, Perry looks at home on the right side.

Let's roll, mother fuckers! This is how champions are forged.

Freak Out
10-07-2013, 07:37 PM
The offense better heat up and start scoring 35+ a game.

hoosier
10-07-2013, 08:09 PM
no thumbs required

he's a line backer, what the fuck does he need thumbs for? honestly

We take having opposable thumbs for granted until they suddenly stop opposing. He wouldn't be able to grip anything = sudden serious decline in tackling. Maybe not such a big deal with a lineman (Cullen Jenkins), but a guy like Clay who is always going horizontal needs to be able to use his hands. Sit him down until he is recovered.

Rutnstrut
10-07-2013, 08:15 PM
So Favre could play with a broken thumb on his passing hand, but Fabio can't play LB with one? What a PUSSY!

Joemailman
10-07-2013, 08:15 PM
The offense better heat up and start scoring 35+ a game.

They're moving the ball up and down well enough to do that, but they need to finish drives. Packers are 3rd in the NFL in offensive yardage, but only 12th in TD's.

Harlan Huckleby
10-07-2013, 08:39 PM
We take having opposable thumbs for granted

Not in my family tree. But we don't talk about that branch too much.

Packers4Glory
10-07-2013, 08:42 PM
As long as he is back a little before playoffs the Packers should be fine. He'll need a game or two to get used to playing with a club.

Neal & Perry can play. Losing Francois hurts a lot, that guy could play inside or out, and now Packers have serious depth problems at all LB positions.
Already in a hole this year and it's not a cake walk the rest of the way. Playoffs?

Rutnstrut
10-07-2013, 08:52 PM
Already in a hole this year and it's not a cake walk the rest of the way. Playoffs?

Yup, playoffs are not a given, especially with this team.

Harlan Huckleby
10-07-2013, 08:54 PM
Yup, playoffs are not a given, especially with this team.

Eventually their offense is going to start clicking and it will be a cakewalk into the playoffs.

Whether they do any damage there is another story.

Patler
10-07-2013, 09:39 PM
GB started out 2-3 last years, while the Bears and Vikings were each 4-1.
Matthews missed games 10-13, and most of game 9.
The offense was clearly a step below 2011, and not nearly as balanced as this year.
Jennings was out, Nelson was dinged up.

Some how, I think GB will figure out a way to get by this year.

Brandon494
10-07-2013, 10:21 PM
With the defensive line playing the way it has this year I think we should be ok for a month without Clay, thankfully we didn't lose him for the season.

swede
10-07-2013, 10:58 PM
So Favre could play with a broken thumb on his passing hand, but Fabio can't play LB with one? What a PUSSY!

Favre had a split thumbnail. Clay's thumb was dislocated and had to be set with pins.

swede
10-07-2013, 10:59 PM
DP

Slow tonight.

pbmax
10-07-2013, 11:20 PM
Favre had a split thumbnail. Clay's thumb was dislocated and had to be set with pins.

I think he also had some kind of bone bruise as well. I remember reading a story about him that the swelling and feeling in the hand were the biggest problems. Or something along those lines.

pbmax
10-07-2013, 11:27 PM
4 week to possible season ending injury for a guy we can't afford to lose. Ugh!


4 weeks plus rehab but sounds like he will be back.

JayGlazer @JayGlazer

Clay Matthews injury called a Bennett fracture. Thumb needed to be stabilized w pins bc its dislocated. Pins out in 4 weeks and then probably some more time to heal

swede
10-07-2013, 11:28 PM
I think he also had some kind of bone bruise as well. I remember reading a story about him that the swelling and feeling in the hand were the biggest problems. Or something along those lines.

Yeah, I wasn't overmuch trying to diminish the impact of Favre's injury as put Clay's in perspective as requiring a surgical procedure that will necessitate at least a month of healing before wrapping and playing.

Favre's didn't need surgery, but it no doubt hurt like hell and he warriored on. If my thumbnail was split I'd want a Demerol drip and vodka and render myself incapable of running a lawnmower, much less an NFL offense.

pbmax
10-07-2013, 11:30 PM
Yeah, I wasn't overmuch trying to diminish the impact of Favre's injury as put Clay's in perspective as requiring a surgical procedure that will necessitate at least a month of healing before wrapping and playing.

Favre's didn't need surgery, but it no doubt hurt like hell and he warriored on. If my thumbnail was split I'd want a Demerol drip and vodka and render myself incapable of running a lawnmower, much less and NFL offense.

Gotcha.

In other news, I now know what a Bennett fracture is. Rand will be hear in the morning to give us further details.

http://www.eatonhand.com/complic/figures/bennett.jpg

swede
10-07-2013, 11:34 PM
Gotcha.

In other news, I now know what a Bennett fracture is. Rand will be hear in the morning to give us further details.

http://www.eatonhand.com/complic/figures/bennett.jpg

That doesn't look good. No wonder it needed pins. Has anyone found the moment of thumb-breakage on video?

Freak Out
10-08-2013, 12:39 AM
Ouch.

pittstang5
10-08-2013, 07:35 AM
I'm gonna guess he'll be out until after the Giants game. I really wanted to see him throw Cutler to the ground a couple times.

Teamcheez1
10-08-2013, 09:35 AM
I read in JSO that when Clay missed extended time last year, we platooned Erik Walden, Dezman Moses and Frank Zombo.

My have things changed for the better in this regard.

bobblehead
10-08-2013, 10:02 AM
Gotcha.

In other news, I now know what a Bennett fracture is. Rand will be hear in the morning to give us further details.

http://www.eatonhand.com/complic/figures/bennett.jpg

NO shit, I had that exact dislocation in 6th grade. I fell down the stairs on my way to gym class and my thumb was resting almost all the way back at my wrist and sticking straight up. The doctor said he never saw anything like it without a break. A rather hefty nurse pinned my arm down while the doc ripped it back into the socket....guess thats what you get when you aren't and NFL superstar.

Tony Oday
10-08-2013, 10:16 AM
Next man up, Roll PACK!!!!

It sucks but at least it is at the start of the year and he will be ready to rip up the last 8 games and playoffs!!!

run pMc
10-08-2013, 10:59 AM
Tough break. :rs: I hope he's back in 4 weeks or less. 4 weeks feels like a long time though. The defense is a lot better with him on the field, and I'm not convinced they can repeat a 3-1 record like they did last year. I hope I'm wrong.

With Jones, Francois, and Matthews out, that's a lot of depth lost. I have to think (or hope) that Capers has something up his sleeve to compensate. Maybe he rolls out the dollar defense or listens to wist and uses 3DL. I don't think most of the backups are ready for prime time...but I guess we'll find out. Everyone says Perry looked more comfortable in Matthews' spot, and Neal is learning fast. They'll need to play well against the Ravens.

The pass coverage is gonna suffer with Jones out. Hawk is smart and steady, and I'm glad he's healthy, but he's not the guy you want covering the scatbacks and TE's of the NFL.

Guiness
10-08-2013, 12:40 PM
No status listed for Jones yet, it should be up tomorrow.

Bossman641
10-08-2013, 01:26 PM
Is anyone else hearing CM3 is looking to be out 7-8 weeks? This sucks

Pugger
10-08-2013, 03:03 PM
Is anyone else hearing CM3 is looking to be out 7-8 weeks? This sucks

7-8? I haven't heard that...yet... :sad:

red
10-08-2013, 04:49 PM
Is anyone else hearing CM3 is looking to be out 7-8 weeks? This sucks

just saw on PFT on NBC that he got pins inserted in the thumb and that the pins come out in 4 weeks, there probably will be a recovery period after that

i have a feeling he's gonna end up on the IR with the ability to return closer to the playoffs. we just don't have roster spots to burn right now with all the injuries

Jimx29
10-08-2013, 05:36 PM
you just can't be lost for the season from breaking a fucking finger

its fucking football for christ sakes, not patty cake

nut up, wrap it up, and go fucking play
QFT

Rutnstrut
10-08-2013, 06:45 PM
Favre had a split thumbnail. Clay's thumb was dislocated and had to be set with pins.

Actually Favre had a CRACKED thumb not thumbnail, still proves my point. Mathews is a pussy.

Rutnstrut
10-08-2013, 08:31 PM
NO shit, I had that exact dislocation in 6th grade. I fell down the stairs on my way to gym class and my thumb was resting almost all the way back at my wrist and sticking straight up. The doctor said he never saw anything like it without a break. A rather hefty nurse pinned my arm down while the doc ripped it back into the socket....guess thats what you get when you aren't and NFL superstar.

You mean you didn't get 4-6 weeks off from school?

George Cumby
10-08-2013, 08:35 PM
Actually Favre had a CRACKED thumb not thumbnail, still proves my point. Mathews is a pussy.

Lol! As stated by an internet tough guy!

KYPack
10-08-2013, 08:36 PM
Actually Favre had a CRACKED thumb not thumbnail, still proves my point. Mathews is a pussy.

Well rut, this little post goes out to every dizzy asshole that says Clay is a pussy.

What, you guys are badasses or something?

A bunch of internet posters that couldn't lick a goddamned stamp are calling out NFL players for their toughness?

That is so stupid, it is beneath contempt.

But I do have contempt for anyone that does this goofy shit.

Is it your leg, thumb, knee etc that is hurt.

No?, then STFU about the guys toughness.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

Rutnstrut
10-08-2013, 08:39 PM
Well rut, this little post goes out to every dizzy asshole that says Clay is a pussy.

What, you guys are badasses or something?

A bunch of internet posters that couldn't lick a goddamned stamp are calling out NFL players for their toughness?

That is so stupid, it is beneath contempt.

But I do have contempt for anyone that does this goofy shit.

Is it your leg, thumb, knee etc that is hurt.

No?, then STFU about the guys toughness.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

How does Clay's sack taste?

KYPack
10-08-2013, 08:49 PM
How does Clay's sack taste?

Not just Clay, most NFL players have more toughness in their fingernails than little internet worms like you have in their whole bodies.

Last night Julio Jones of the Falcons played the game after sustaining a season ending injury.

These guys have been stars in HS, college, & now the NFL.

I laugh my ass off when internet dimwits like you (I've seen some of your previous posts on here) question their guts to play hurt.

How the fuck do you know if a guy is feeling too much pain or is incapable of taking the field?

Oh yeah, that's right, you'd sling your keyboard at the runner and knock him down that way.

Rastak
10-08-2013, 09:07 PM
Not just Clay, most NFL players have more toughness in their fingernails than little internet worms like you have in their whole bodies.

Last night Julio Jones of the Falcons played the game after sustaining a season ending injury.

These guys have been stars in HS, college, & now the NFL.

I laugh my ass off when internet dimwits like you (I've seen some of your previous posts on here) question their guts to play hurt.

How the fuck do you know if a guy is feeling too much pain or is incapable of taking the field?

Oh yeah, that's right, you'd sling your keyboard at the runner and knock him down that way.


What KYPack said. They put screws in his fucking hand.

Patler
10-09-2013, 01:00 AM
What KYPack said. They put screws in his fucking hand.

Yup, and the screws, I think, might actually be rigid wires that protrude out of his hand until they are removed. Impossible to play with

Years ago, players probably WOULD have taped it up and played with it, but could have ended up with a thumb of little functional use as a result. Things can be fixed now that the "tough" guys of the past played with. Sure doesn't mean those who opt for surgery to get things fixed properly are any less tough.

Patler
10-09-2013, 02:02 AM
Interview with hand specialist in GBPG discusses the operation, recovery, etc.:

http://www.packersnews.com/article/20131008/PKR01/310080396/Matthews-recovery-from-thumb-fracture-can-t-rushed

pittstang5
10-09-2013, 06:35 AM
Interview with hand specialist in GBPG discusses the operation, recovery, etc.:

http://www.packersnews.com/article/20131008/PKR01/310080396/Matthews-recovery-from-thumb-fracture-can-t-rushed

Cool link Patler, really explains alot and gives a little more detail to a fan like myself that was curious about the injury and why you couldn't just "Club Up" and keep playing. Sounds like 4 weeks to heal, pins removed, then club/cast.

Packers4Glory
10-09-2013, 07:05 AM
we all knew that if there was any chance this injury could require surgery that it was going to be that type of injury. This team just can't catch a break injury wise.

denverYooper
10-09-2013, 08:30 AM
It's frustrating as fans to see our team's stars out but the Packers usually err on the side of doing what is best for the player's future. I've been wondering lately if this is part of the reason that the Packers often have more injuries.

Rutnstrut
10-09-2013, 09:04 AM
Guys, I am not saying Clay is a pussy for not playing AFTER having the procedure. I'm saying suck it up and have the procedure done AFTER the season. I'm sure his quality of life would still be just fine, while spending his millions with a somewhat damaged thumb. He's a great player, but gets hurt a lot. I'd take a solid player that is more durable, over a star that gets hurt easily any day.

pittstang5
10-09-2013, 09:35 AM
It's frustrating as fans to see our team's stars out but the Packers usually err on the side of doing what is best for the player's future. I've been wondering lately if this is part of the reason that the Packers often have more injuries.

I've been noticing more caution with injuries since the Nick Collins injury.

Patler
10-09-2013, 09:47 AM
Guys, I am not saying Clay is a pussy for not playing AFTER having the procedure. I'm saying suck it up and have the procedure done AFTER the season. I'm sure his quality of life would still be just fine, while spending his millions with a somewhat damaged thumb. He's a great player, but gets hurt a lot. I'd take a solid player that is more durable, over a star that gets hurt easily any day.

I don't think you can postpone positioning of broken bones until after the season. They will begin to, or attempt to heal where they are.

I agree with your concerns about his health, and I was somewhat ambivalent about his contract extension because of it. Broken bones are somewhat fluky things that just happen. The hamstrings are another issue. I suspect they will be the early end of his career at some point, because an article I read recently said the biggest factor for getting a hamstring pull is having a previous hamstring pull, and Matthews has had a bunch. He said this year that he has had them in both legs and in many different locations.

I had hoped he would play 18-20 years like his father and uncle did. I doubt that is in the cards for him. I now hope he plays enough over the next 5+ years to justify his contract extension. I doubt that he will get another in GB.

Zool
10-09-2013, 09:51 AM
Guys, I am not saying Clay is a pussy for not playing AFTER having the procedure. I'm saying suck it up and have the procedure done AFTER the season. I'm sure his quality of life would still be just fine, while spending his millions with a somewhat damaged thumb. He's a great player, but gets hurt a lot. I'd take a solid player that is more durable, over a star that gets hurt easily any day.

Here's what happens when you don't get it fixed right away.

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2008/12/custom_1229980710237_IMG00131.jpg

mraynrand
10-09-2013, 10:04 AM
fixing a fracture dislocation with pins is standard of care. Matthews grabbing is essential to his tackling technique. For a fast burst guy, it's essential that he have a fully functional hand. Without treatment, he'd lose that mobility in the present (club) and forever (malalignment, fusion) if he 'waited' until the end of the year. Plus, he wouldn't be able to lift the toilet seat:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ_3KnZ_HKg

Pugger
10-09-2013, 10:23 AM
Interview with hand specialist in GBPG discusses the operation, recovery, etc.:

http://www.packersnews.com/article/20131008/PKR01/310080396/Matthews-recovery-from-thumb-fracture-can-t-rushed

Oh damn, I can't read this because I used up my complimentary access. :sad:

red
10-09-2013, 10:27 AM
Yup, and the screws, I think, might actually be rigid wires that protrude out of his hand until they are removed. Impossible to play with

Years ago, players probably WOULD have taped it up and played with it, but could have ended up with a thumb of little functional use as a result. Things can be fixed now that the "tough" guys of the past played with. Sure doesn't mean those who opt for surgery to get things fixed properly are any less tough.

the article says its those wires, not screws

and for those cringing because of screws being inserted. you don't feel the screws at all. bones have no nerves i have found out. broken bones hurt because all the tissue around the bone is affected

i broke a bone in my thumb back in college, don't know if it was the exact same or not, but it does suck and hurt like hell. you can't use your thumb at all. and for me, because i didn't go in and get it fixed, i had problems with it for a few years

surgery was the right move

hoosier
10-09-2013, 10:29 AM
fixing a fracture dislocation with pins is standard of care. Matthews grabbing is essential to his tackling technique. For a fast burst guy, it's essential that he have a fully functional hand. Without treatment, he'd lose that mobility in the present (club) and forever (malalignment, fusion) if he 'waited' until the end of the year. Plus, he wouldn't be able to lift the toilet seat:

Let me take up Rut's line of thinking: standard of care, functionality, alignment, this is all just pussy thought. Why couldn't Clay just have his thumb amputated (sans anaesthetic, of course: bite the bullet) and play next Sunday like the team needs him to?

Smidgeon
10-09-2013, 10:29 AM
Not just Clay, most NFL players have more toughness in their fingernails than little internet worms like you have in their whole bodies.

Last night Julio Jones of the Falcons played the game after sustaining a season ending injury.

These guys have been stars in HS, college, & now the NFL.

I laugh my ass off when internet dimwits like you (I've seen some of your previous posts on here) question their guts to play hurt.

How the fuck do you know if a guy is feeling too much pain or is incapable of taking the field?

Oh yeah, that's right, you'd sling your keyboard at the runner and knock him down that way.

Repped.

Smidgeon
10-09-2013, 10:32 AM
Oh damn, I can't read this because I used up my complimentary access. :sad:

Delete your cookies on your computer and try again.

Pugger
10-09-2013, 10:45 AM
I'm not the most computer savvy person around. How do I do this? :?:

pbmax
10-09-2013, 10:47 AM
I'm not the most computer savvy person around. How do I do this? :?:

http://kb.iu.edu/data/ahic.html

Just pick the name of the browser you have been using on this page, link will take you to directions.

mraynrand
10-09-2013, 10:51 AM
you can also go in and specifically delete the JS cookie, so that all the other cookies that manage logins, surveillance, etc. on other sites will be retained. I have one annoying credit card site that requires a confirmation email every time I delete their damn cookies. "we don't recognize your computer!"

mraynrand
10-09-2013, 10:52 AM
Let me take up Rut's line of thinking: standard of care, functionality, alignment, this is all just pussy thought. Why couldn't Clay just have his thumb amputated (sans anaesthetic, of course: bite the bullet) and play next Sunday like the team needs him to?

Just think how doubly angry Wist would be: a poorly aligned defense with poorly aligned thumbs!

KYPack
10-09-2013, 11:02 AM
Guys, I am not saying Clay is a pussy for not playing AFTER having the procedure. I'm saying suck it up and have the procedure done AFTER the season. I'm sure his quality of life would still be just fine, while spending his millions with a somewhat damaged thumb. He's a great player, but gets hurt a lot. I'd take a solid player that is more durable, over a star that gets hurt easily any day.

Well my little Rut, you've made it.

With this post, you've established that you have achieved that state of bliss known as total and pure stupidity.

You are an envious, complete fool.

mraynrand
10-09-2013, 11:03 AM
Well my little Rut, you've made it.

With this post, you've established that you have achieved that state of bliss known as total and pure stupidity.

You are an envious, complete fool.

but he's an excellent dancer!

Pugger
10-09-2013, 11:03 AM
I found if I use IE instead I can read it just fine without messing around with my cookies. :smile:

KYPack
10-09-2013, 11:05 AM
(Mad, don't get mad at me for this, now)

Pug, you can also hit the F12 key.

A menu will pop up.

go to "cache"

select "Clear cookies for this domain" and JSO will give, like, 15 more views.

swede
10-09-2013, 11:13 AM
"Clear cookies for this domain" sounds like me in the cupboard around 9 pm.

hoosier
10-09-2013, 11:23 AM
I found if I use IE instead I can read it just fine without messing around with my cookies. :smile:

Yeah, for a while, until IE gets maxed out on cookies and then you will have to purge one or the other. If you open FF, go to history (menu bar at top) and select "Clear recent history" that will flush all your cookies for you.

hoosier
10-09-2013, 11:23 AM
Or you could just invite the Swede over one evening and let him take care of things. He will not leave a crumb.

Guiness
10-09-2013, 11:33 AM
From cookies back to pins.

TFA said they leave the pins sticking out of the hand? Very Frankenstein!

Sound like quite a freak injury. Breaking your thumb by landing open palm on the turf?

hoosier
10-09-2013, 11:35 AM
Sound like quite a freak injury. Breaking your thumb by landing open palm on the turf?

Not a freak injury, a pussy injury.

KYPack
10-09-2013, 11:46 AM
From cookies back to pins.

TFA said they leave the pins sticking out of the hand? Very Frankenstein!

Sound like quite a freak injury. Breaking your thumb by landing open palm on the turf?

That is the most common ski injury.

& KY has done it.

Last run, last day in Aspen.

I couldn't quite tough out happy hour.

Was a wussy, I guess.

(I won't say the "P", Pug's on here.)

Guiness
10-09-2013, 11:48 AM
That is the most common ski injury.

& KY has done it.

Last run, last day in Aspen.

I couldn't quite tough out happy hour.

Was a wussy, I guess.

(I won't say the "P", Pug's on here.)

Heh, I ski and snowboard, don't think I've heard of that in particular...mostly broken wrists!

KYPack
10-09-2013, 12:26 PM
Heh, I ski and snowboard, don't think I've heard of that in particular...mostly broken wrists!

I googled it.

I was told the thumb was most common to skiers by the doc who repaired my thumb.

Most common injury is to the knee, the most common to the upper extremities is now to the wrist, with boarders getting most of those busted/sprained wrists.

Guess that doctor was just trying to "cheer me up".

Guiness
10-09-2013, 12:29 PM
I googled it.

I was told the thumb was most common to skiers by the doc who repaired my thumb.

Most common injury is to the knee, the most common to the upper extremities is now to the wrist, with boarders getting most of those busted/sprained wrists.

Guess that doctor was just trying to "cheer me up".

Wrists are very common with snowboarders (and rollerbladers), mostly from falling backwards and putting your arm behind you. I know a couple of kids that have broken both wrists at the same time doing that!

mraynrand
10-09-2013, 01:22 PM
Wrists are very common with snowboarders (and rollerbladers), mostly from falling backwards and putting your arm behind you. I know a couple of kids that have broken both wrists at the same time doing that!

The thumb injury is very common in skiers because of the poles, they tell me. Next more common are injuries from falls - if you don't have a parachute of course.

http://serendipity3864.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/spy-who-loved-me-ski-jump1.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/13/article-2172597-140A34E9000005DC-576_634x335.jpg

Guiness
10-09-2013, 01:38 PM
The thumb injury is very common in skiers because of the poles, they tell me. Next more common are injuries from falls - if you don't have a parachute of course.


That makes sense, jamming your thumb when planting your pole. Is that what you did KY?

denverYooper
10-09-2013, 01:50 PM
This all begs the question: what was Matthews doing skiing!!??

mraynrand
10-09-2013, 01:57 PM
This all begs the question: what was Matthews doing skiing!!??

and without a parachute yet! I guess he bought into that "nobody does it better" malarky....

George Cumby
10-09-2013, 02:06 PM
That is the most common ski injury.

& KY has done it.

Last run, last day in Aspen.

I couldn't quite tough out happy hour.

Was a wussy, I guess.

(I won't say the "P", Pug's on here.)

I did the same thing Ky. The last run of the day, I blow it and land hard and jam my thumb.

I had a less severe form which is a strained ligament (I think) which is called, creatively: " skiers thumb". It takes for fucking ever to heal, like months.

My rule oh thumb these days is when I nail that sweet run in mid afternoon, I call it a day and head to the lodge.

red
10-09-2013, 02:55 PM
That makes sense, jamming your thumb when planting your pole. Is that what you did KY?

see, that doesn't make sense to me. who jams their pole so far into the ground that it doesn't move? theres always plenty of give in the snow

i'm a pretty good skiier, but i've never once jammed my thumb with my pole

i can see wrist injuries from the falls, but i just can't see thumbs being a big problem in skiing

KYPack
10-09-2013, 03:10 PM
That makes sense, jamming your thumb when planting your pole. Is that what you did KY?

Sorta.

It's tough to imagine breaking your thumb on a pole plant. I broke mine when I planted my thumb in the ground after a wicked fall. You forget that you need to keep the thumb tucked in and when you brace your arm to break the fall, the thumb gets broke. it hurt like 99 bastards. I skied to the lodge at the bottom of Aspen mountain and self medicated. Nothing helped and that sumbitch swelled up like a "pride of your garden" squash. it turned all kinds of colors a lot faster than any break I've ever had, including a real nice purple.

The ER put me in a brace for the wrist & thumb and I got it casted the next day at the ER in Cincinnati. I never would have made it thru the flight without a half pint of Beam I smuggled aboard back in the days when you could do that shit. To get on topic, I couldn't have played a game of tiddlywinks in 4 - 6 weeks. It hurt for a long time and didn't stop giving me some misery for like a year.

But I'm some kind of ski pussy, I guess.

mraynrand
10-09-2013, 03:26 PM
I think it's pretty common to get that break during a fall with your hand still on the pole and thumb out there. I haven't skied in years so I don't recall the normal reaction to a fall w/re: to the ski poles.

KY: Apsen - that's real skiing

I remember skiing at Brighton (Big Cottonwood canyon, UT) and then going over the Alta - at Alta the green runs are like Brighton Blues and the Blacks are just pure terror. That's what my buddy from CO told me about Aspen, and he's been skiing blacks since he was ten.

Bossman641
10-09-2013, 03:32 PM
I did the same thing Ky. The last run of the day, I blow it and land hard and jam my thumb.

I had a less severe form which is a strained ligament (I think) which is called, creatively: " skiers thumb". It takes for fucking ever to heal, like months.

My rule oh thumb these days is when I nail that sweet run in mid afternoon, I call it a day and head to the lodge.

You all have me thinking now. 8-9 years ago I was skiing in Colorado and slammed my thumb directly into the ground. It hurt like hell, couldn't touch it or grip anything for a while afterwards. I figured I had just sprained it and let it be. It's never healed correctly. I have a bone that juts out at the base of my thumb but it never bothers me.

Pugger
10-09-2013, 03:34 PM
There is an article about Clay's injury at www.packersnews.com and evidently they inserted pins in Clays hands and those pins will protrude outside of the skin for a month and that is why we can't just put a club on his hand and let him play.

CaptainKickass
10-09-2013, 03:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OvMZT2zfy0


jamming your thumb when planting your pole.

Captain Context literally laughed out loud while reading that with his "dirty mind" hat on.

KYPack
10-09-2013, 04:08 PM
There is an article about Clay's injury at www.packersnews.com and evidently they inserted pins in Clays hands and those pins will protrude outside of the skin for a month and that is why we can't just put a club on his hand and let him play.

With the pins, the muscles won't atrophy like they would in a cast.

If he hits the field in 7-8 weeks, he ain't nothin' but a stud.

bobblehead
10-09-2013, 04:40 PM
http://kb.iu.edu/data/ahic.html

Just pick the name of the browser you have been using on this page, link will take you to directions.

I just use Explorer, Chrome and Mozilla. When one uses up the access, I switch for the month

red
10-09-2013, 05:23 PM
having suffered a broken bone in my thumb and a devastating shattered ankle now, i can easily say that the broken thumb clearly hurt a whole hell of a lot more then the ankle.

i don't know what it is about the thumb, but it is a very painful injury

Freak Out
10-09-2013, 05:28 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XiGZyWmldVg/Tc3r5Er5ZKI/AAAAAAAABRc/8pS06yPwP6E/s1600/Man+With+the+Golden+Gun+5.jpg

KYPack
10-09-2013, 06:12 PM
having suffered a broken bone in my thumb and a devastating shattered ankle now, i can easily say that the broken thumb clearly hurt a whole hell of a lot more then the ankle.

i don't know what it is about the thumb, but it is a very painful injury

Oh yeah, you got a witness on that one.

It lingers, too.

For a long time, I would absentmindedly hit it on something and the pain would take your breath away.

Those pain pills didn't begin to touch it.

Whiskey was the only thing that worked reasonably.

pbmax
10-09-2013, 06:26 PM
You all have me thinking now. 8-9 years ago I was skiing in Colorado and slammed my thumb directly into the ground. It hurt like hell, couldn't touch it or grip anything for a while afterwards. I figured I had just sprained it and let it be. It's never healed correctly. I have a bone that juts out at the base of my thumb but it never bothers me.

I knew you were Larry McCarren. Or Brian Baldinger.

George Cumby
10-09-2013, 06:32 PM
The other thing about the fingers and hands is they are super densely enervated. Think about how much it hurts when you crack your thumb when pounding nails.

Guiness
10-09-2013, 06:32 PM
Oh yeah, you got a witness on that one.

It lingers, too.

For a long time, I would absentmindedly hit it on something and the pain would take your breath away.

Those pain pills didn't begin to touch it.

Whiskey was the only thing that worked reasonably.

Heh. 'Whisky' and 'reasonable' in the same sentence.

mraynrand
10-09-2013, 09:35 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XiGZyWmldVg/Tc3r5Er5ZKI/AAAAAAAABRc/8pS06yPwP6E/s1600/Man+With+the+Golden+Gun+5.jpg

Goodnight!

SkinBasket
10-10-2013, 07:55 AM
I had turf toe once for like two years because I kept kicking things. It hurt.

KYPack
10-10-2013, 08:56 AM
I had turf toe once for like two years because I kept kicking things. It hurt.

That would account for some of your behavior.

mraynrand
10-10-2013, 09:16 AM
That would account for some of your behavior.

some....only some.

SkinBasket
10-10-2013, 10:13 AM
I was kicking balls, not people.

gbgary
10-10-2013, 12:36 PM
mm now saying he might miss only a couple of weeks.

Fritz
10-10-2013, 01:49 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XiGZyWmldVg/Tc3r5Er5ZKI/AAAAAAAABRc/8pS06yPwP6E/s1600/Man+With+the+Golden+Gun+5.jpg

This picture supports my theory that chicks are hotter today than they used to be.

swede
10-10-2013, 02:12 PM
Wait...those are CHICKS?

mraynrand
10-10-2013, 02:44 PM
This picture supports my theory that chicks are hotter today than they used to be.

Certainly hotter than the one in the middle

mraynrand
10-10-2013, 02:48 PM
This picture supports my theory that chicks are hotter today than they used to be.

perspective matters

http://www.secretsofabelle.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/myrna-loy_7.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/19/article-2205629-15174818000005DC-924_634x853.jpg

KYPack
10-10-2013, 08:09 PM
you just can't be lost for the season from breaking a fucking finger

its fucking football for christ sakes, not patty cake

nut up, wrap it up, and go fucking play

If you watch the tape on Clay leaving the field for X-Rays, you can see the tape job on his thumb. He tried to wrap & go, but no go.

Is that pic Lady Gaga?

Being a pevert diva must pay good, she ain't missing any meals.

George Cumby
10-10-2013, 08:25 PM
Tell me the second one isn't Gaga.

Pugger
10-10-2013, 09:39 PM
perspective matters

http://www.secretsofabelle.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/myrna-loy_7.jpghttp://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/09/19/article-2205629-15174818000005DC-924_634x853.jpg

Myrna Loy is one of my favorite actresses from that era. Those Thin Man movies were very cute and clever. :-)

Joemailman
10-11-2013, 10:19 PM
MM saying Matthews will be out 3-4 weeks. http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/227419301.html If that's the case, the Packers have dodged a major bullet. The Packers next 4 opponents (Baltimore, Cleveland, Minnesota and Chicago) are not exactly a murderer's row of explosive offenses. If the offense produces, they should be fine.

mraynrand
10-11-2013, 10:31 PM
Myrna Loy is one of my favorite actresses from that era. Those Thin Man movies were very cute and clever. :-)

The Best Years of Our Lives is an epic American film. Myrna was great in the flick too.

Maxie the Taxi
10-12-2013, 07:37 AM
Myrna Loy is one of my favorite actresses from that era. Those Thin Man movies were very cute and clever. :-)

Just saw her in "The Great Ziegfeld." Awesome lady. Fantastic movie.

And a can't help posting a pix of my favorite...
http://img2.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/1/4/14c0u0skfmw66wk.jpg?obn5da3o

mraynrand
10-12-2013, 08:47 AM
^^^^ Nice gams!

KYPack
10-12-2013, 09:03 AM
Yes, that is Lady Gaga.

She blame the flab explosion on her dad's new restaurant.

Her weight gain is estimated at 25 - 30 pounds.

She had about 2 songs I could handle, so no loss for me if she's all done.

mraynrand
10-12-2013, 09:11 AM
Yes, that is Lady Gaga.

She blame the flab explosion on her dad's new restaurant.

Her weight gain is estimated at 25 - 30 pounds.

She had about 2 songs I could handle, so no loss for me if she's all done.

being fat can be an advantage for a singer...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Freddie_Mecury_and_Montserrat_Caballé_-_Barcelona.jpg

mraynrand
10-12-2013, 09:14 AM
http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq254/mraynrand/Favre/vikingfavre2.jpg

pbmax
10-12-2013, 09:34 AM
If that is Gaga, they must have used the same lens when photographing Lacy this summer.

Fritz
10-12-2013, 09:54 AM
Getting back to the original thread idea, it looks like - per JSO today, October 12, that Matthews will be out only three to four weeks.

Cool. Give him a month off, let those hammies heal up completely, come back with a cast, and stay healthy for the stretch run.