The Hammer

[KYPack]

The old hammer may be coming down after a post game tirade in the locker room after the Eagles loss.

The big coach let 'em have it. From the sound of things, Red and all our other resident red asses would not have outdone the ass chewing that big Mike whupped on the GBP after the ball game on Sunday.

MM was super pissed at his team's effort in Sunday's loss.

"I'm disappointed as the head coach of this team because we have a recurring issue that I have to get fixed, and we'll get on that tomorrow."

Does this mean somebody gets the axe?

At a minimum, somebody should get some time on the pine for the lackadaisical effort put forth by the team on defense yesterday. The effort on defense must improve if we have any hope of posting a winning season and being in the mix at the end of the season.

[HarveyWallbangers]

McCarthy isn't the type of coach that fires assistants during the year. He's only cleaned his during one offseason. More than likely, I think it means personnel changes. M.D. Jennings, a couple of the corners, and Marshall Newhouse are some guys that look to be in the doghouse--although it's unlikely they'll be able to bench Newhouse with the injuries on the OL.

[denverYooper]

Someone will get called to the principal's office. It remains to be seen whether it's a final notice (that we won't know about) or a pink slip.

[Noodle]

I heard a number of folks on the radio reacting to that MM quote by guessing that Capers was going to get axed. No way, there is just no way the DC gets dumped. Who takes his place? Greene's done a good job with the LBs, but is he really ready to be a DC? So I'm guessing it's more personnel changes, especially among the DBs.

He should also fire the strength & conditioning coach. We must lead the league in pulled muscles.

[red]

i like how all the stories talk about how McMikes Irish temper came out last night

bull fucking shit

My irish temper would have walked into that locker room after the game with baseball bat, swinging and smashing whatever the fuck got in my way

[red]

I heard a number of folks on the radio reacting to that MM quote by guessing that Capers was going to get axed. No way, there is just no way the DC gets dumped. Who takes his place? Greene's done a good job with the LBs, but is he really ready to be a DC? So I'm guessing it's more personnel changes, especially among the DBs.

He should also fire the strength & conditioning coach. We must lead the league in pulled muscles.

who could do capers job?

it could be argued that capers hasn't done his own job for a few seasons now

[red]

well its been today for almost 11 hours

no hammer or axe falling yet

[pbmax]

I heard a number of folks on the radio reacting to that MM quote by guessing that Capers was going to get axed. No way, there is just no way the DC gets dumped. Who takes his place? Greene's done a good job with the LBs, but is he really ready to be a DC? So I'm guessing it's more personnel changes, especially among the DBs.

He should also fire the strength & conditioning coach. We must lead the league in pulled muscles.

The coach fire talk must have been going on in the press box/media room after his comments came to light about taking care of it on Monday. Its a case of 2+2 = 5. Yes, there are definite problems that keep emerging. but McCarthy really didn't hint that he thought it was a coach and he emphatically denied it was scheme on the big pass plays.

The line that you get what you tolerate means players who have kept up the same non-sense are in trouble. I really doubt its the coach.

[denverYooper]

well its been today for almost 11 hours

no hammer or axe falling yet

If they make any staff moves, I'm sure it won't be until the end of the day. Personnel moves, we might not find out until the gameday inactives get listed.

[Pugger]

I doubt any coaches get axed before the end of the season. But I don't know if I would have wanted to be in the film room this morning.

[red]

i think if you're going to make coaching moves it has to come when you have no chance at the playoffs anymore

so, maybe not until next week

[Rutnstrut]

"who could do capers job?"

A monkey, my kids, my dog, the water boy, a mentally challenged midget porn actress...

[denverYooper]

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 1m

Looking at more than just #FlynnWatch? RT @drocksthaparty: that is my bou jamal johnson webb walking with him. He is an OT from alabama A&M

[pbmax]

Is that the Bear's (former?) Webb?

[KYPack]

I don't think the hammer gets any coaching staff during the season, that'd be more trouble than it's worth.

Personnel moves?

Wallace to IR, Flynn signed if he works out well today.

House to CB and/or Banjo to safety to spice up the DB's.

I haven't had the juice to look at the injuries that happened, they are too much for be to bear at this point.

[Bossman641]

Is that the Bear's (former?) Webb?

That's J'marcus Webb. He's on the Vikings.

[red]

i think the team should hold tryouts for all free agents this week after what we saw yesterday

[Fritz]

The coach fire talk must have been going on in the press box/media room after his comments came to light about taking care of it on Monday. Its a case of 2+2 = 5. Yes, there are definite problems that keep emerging. but McCarthy really didn't hint that he thought it was a coach and he emphatically denied it was scheme on the big pass plays.

The line that you get what you tolerate means players who have kept up the same non-sense are in trouble. I really doubt its the coach.

Mason Crosby will be getting a pink slip next week if he fubars again like he did yesterday.

[denverYooper]

M3 has a presser today at 3 CT. If anyone got cut, I imagine he'll address it there.

[MadScientist]

The hammer must have been one of those inflatable ones. Here's the notes from his presser:

(reoccuring issue) Not playing best football in 4th quarter. We don't have a drill for it on Mondays, but have been emphasizing. We need to be better.

(What is it) You have to look at calls. We've played nine games, time for our locker room to step up. All this conversation, we're talking about who's not here. We need to focus on what the hell we're doing. It's important to know we're listening to the right things. We've had a lot of change, just haven't overcome it. Had opportunities to do that. Offensive production was very good. Defensively, we gave up three TDs over the top. Can't do that in any game. Opportunities were there, these things are coming up routinely.

A whole lot of nothing there.

[run pMc]

M3 says recurring issue is poor 4Q play.

Wouldn't think it's being tired from a TOP standpoint. Seems like an issue with tackling and focus to me. Entire secondary had a very bad game...and seems like that's happened often in 4Q this year.

[woodbuck27]

i like how all the stories talk about how McMikes Irish temper came out last night

bull fucking shit

My irish temper would have walked into that locker room after the game with baseball bat, swinging and smashing whatever the fuck got in my way

Then red..... you were upset after that Packer - Eagle non-performance by the Packer 'D'.

This team can't tackle. Evidence of that is that the ST's are 31st on Punt returns and 31st on kick returns.

Look at the total number of tackles in that game at 47 and 'only' 4 assisted tackles. With a pocket passer like Nick Foles why? wasn't there more pressure on him? I realize we won the battle of the clock 34:24 mins possession but that tackling performance across the board is alarming.

Why does it seem that BJ Raji and Pickett were invisible? I realize that they hold down the center of the DL but between them zero tackles?

Defense T-A SCK INT FF

A. Hawk 7-0 0.0 0 0

S. Shields 7-0 0.0 0 0
M. Jennings 6-0 0.0 0 0
T. Williams 6-1 0.5 0 1

B. Jones 4-0 0.0 0 0

M. Burnett 3-0 0.0 0 0
D. Jones 3-0 2.0 0 0
M. Neal 3-0 0.0 0 0

C. Banjo 1-0 0.0 0 0
D. House 1-0 0.0 0 0
J. Jolly 1-0 0.0 0 0
C. Matthews 1-1 0.0 0 0
N. Palmer 1-1 0.0 0 0
N. Perry 1-0 0.0 0 0
M. Daniels 0-1 0.5 0 0

[SMBASS]

A whole lot of, "nothing" which is pretty much what I thought he would say. I've been hearing, "We've gotta fix that" from him for a long time regarding a number of things that never get fixed so I don't expect anything else. I really don't know what can be done at this point of the season and I don't think there are any wholesale changes that Stubby can make that will do anything except maybe send a message that nobody's jobs is safe. Hell, is our defense all of a sudden going to learn to put pressure on a QB, make a tackle, catch an interception, force a fumble or cover a receiver just because he yells at them, tells them that they have to do better or fires a couple of people. I don't think so.

Due to the injuries and the way this season has been going I think you just have to ride it out and hope that the team starts playing with a little more intensity and a sense of urgency which I haven't seen so far. With all the resources we've devoted to trying to fix the D the past couple of years I'm pretty disappointed with the results so far. I still believe that overall the "draft and develop" strategy is probably the best but at some point I think Ted has to start looking at adding a proven player or two to the mix because we seem to be whiffing on a number of draft choices that aren't having much of an impact. We still haven't been able to find anyone who can create any type of consistent pressure to compliment CM III and IMO it's time for Tramon Williams to go. He's our highest paid D player and he has no positive impact whatsoever. He just hasn't been the same player since he got paid and then hurt his shoulder. I think the big bucks you're paying him could be used to find a proven player on D who can make some plays or create some pressure.

From a coaching standpoint I've seen enough of Capers and Slocum and IMO I think it's time to make changes in both of those areas. With all of the players hitting free agency it will be interesting to see what Ted and MM do in the offseason and how they decide to shape this team for the future. I realize A-Rod has some good years left but he's not getting any younger and I'm starting to get concerned that we're going to piss away his career without getting another legitimate shot at the Super Bowl due to the issues with the rest of the team. We've been pretty damn lucky/spoiled with Favre and A-Rod back to back and there's no telling how long it could be before we find another stud QB once A-Rod is gone. Maybe we'll get lucky again and maybe we won't but who in the heck knows.

I've never been a huge Stubby fan for a number of reasons but I usually never say much about him and won't even get started on that subject. Nothing against him personally and he seems like a good man so my issues with him are strictly from a coaching and play calling standpoint. Overall I believe TT does a pretty good job but I think he's made his share of mistakes and I don't place him on the same pedestal as many people do. I just think that they're both somewhat stubborn in their approach sometimes and they need to start re-evaluating what they've been doing. I didn't come to these conclusions just because we've lost two games in a row either. These are things I've been thinking for the past several years. Having been a die-hard Packer fan since the mid-60's and suffering through the 70's, 80's and early 90's I'm definitely not spoiled and I do appreciate our overall winning record and the competitiveness of the team since Wolf and Favre came into the fold. I'm also realistic and understand that winning is difficult and you can't expect a Super Bowl every year or All-Pro players at every position due to the salary cap, parity, and the way the league is set up, but IMO it's time to start making some changes because currently the status quo isn't getting it done.

[woodbuck27]

A whole lot of, "nothing" which is pretty much what I thought he would say. I've been hearing, "We've gotta fix that" from him for a long time regarding a number of things that never get fixed so I don't expect anything else. I really don't know what can be done at this point of the season and I don't think there are any wholesale changes that Stubby can make that will do anything except maybe send a message that nobody's jobs is safe. Hell, is our defense all of a sudden going to learn to put pressure on a QB, make a tackle, catch an interception, force a fumble or cover a receiver just because he yells at them, tells them that they have to do better or fires a couple of people. I don't think so.

Due to the injuries and the way this season has been going I think you just have to ride it out and hope that the team starts playing with a little more intensity and a sense of urgency which I haven't seen so far. With all the resources we've devoted to trying to fix the D the past couple of years I'm pretty disappointed with the results so far. I still believe that overall the "draft and develop" strategy is probably the best but at some point I think Ted has to start looking at adding a proven player or two to the mix because we seem to be whiffing on a number of draft choices that aren't having much of an impact. We still haven't been able to find anyone who can create any type of consistent pressure to compliment CM III and IMO it's time for Tramon Williams to go. He's our highest paid D player and he has no positive impact whatsoever. He just hasn't been the same player since he got paid and then hurt his shoulder. I think the big bucks you're paying him could be used to find a proven player on D who can make some plays or create some pressure.

From a coaching standpoint I've seen enough of Capers and Slocum and IMO I think it's time to make changes in both of those areas. With all of the players hitting free agency it will be interesting to see what Ted and MM do in the offseason and how they decide to shape this team for the future. I realize A-Rod has some good years left but he's not getting any younger and I'm starting to get concerned that we're going to piss away his career without getting another legitimate shot at the Super Bowl due to the issues with the rest of the team. We've been pretty damn lucky/spoiled with Favre and A-Rod back to back and there's no telling how long it could be before we find another stud QB once A-Rod is gone. Maybe we'll get lucky again and maybe we won't but who in the heck knows.

I've never been a huge Stubby fan for a number of reasons but I usually never say much about him and won't even get started on that subject. Nothing against him personally and he seems like a good man so my issues with him are strictly from a coaching and play calling standpoint. Overall I believe TT does a pretty good job but I think he's made his share of mistakes and I don't place him on the same pedestal as many people do. I just think that they're both somewhat stubborn in their approach sometimes and they need to start re-evaluating what they've been doing. I didn't come to these conclusions just because we've lost two games in a row either. These are things I've been thinking for the past several years. Having been a die-hard Packer fan since the mid-60's and suffering through the 70's, 80's and early 90's I'm definitely not spoiled and I do appreciate our overall winning record and the competitiveness of the team since Wolf and Favre came into the fold. I'm also realistic and understand that winning is difficult and you can't expect a Super Bowl every year or All-Pro players at every position due to the salary cap, parity, and the way the league is set up, but IMO it's time to start making some changes because currently the status quo isn't getting it done.

Good post.

[mission]

The Hammer must have been MM saying today that "the team is in a great spot" or something to that effect. You kidding Mike?
I still love my team like always but he's gotta start acting like there's nothing wrong.

[red]

i think that shit yesterday was all for the cameras

LOOK AT HOW MAD I AM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Iron Mike]

"who could do capers job?"

A monkey, my kids, my dog, the water boy, a mentally challenged midget porn actress...

Of course, I HAD to do a google image search of "mentally-challenged midget porn actress":

http://amradaronline.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/little-people-dwarf-tossing-anderson-cooper.jpg

[Iron Mike]

Damn, I thought this thread was gonna be about Eddie Lacy and his awesomeness.....

http://memecrunch.com/meme/XDPQ/eddie-the-hammer-lacy/image.png

[woodbuck27]

Of course, I HAD to do a google image search of "mentally-challenged midget porn actress":

http://amradaronline.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/little-people-dwarf-tossing-anderson-cooper.jpg

and ....who also 'signs'.

Nice find !

[pbmax]

A whole lot of, "nothing" which is pretty much what I thought he would say. I've been hearing, "We've gotta fix that" from him for a long time regarding a number of things that never get fixed so I don't expect anything else.

Running game. Run defense. And that is just this year.

Speculation about Capers was just breathless guessing. Its the middle of the season. Only a fool for a coach like Forrest Gregg will dump his team into the lake trying to fix something in mid-season.

And it remains to be seen who starts next weekend on D.

[woodbuck27]

It's not a time to get mad.

It's time to get busy. To REV it up !

PACKERS !