Official Packers vs Giants game day thread

[pbmax]

What's with the runs up the gut? EDS is hurt and and it's not our strongest run play anyway.

Pretty much has been unless you want to go over Sitton and Bach.

But remember Newhouse is in for Barclay on the right.

[Teamcheez1]

"don't want to get too pass heavy with tolzien in there"

LOL

whats he completed, 3 passes? maybe attempted 6 or so in the half?



4-6 for 81 yards

[Guiness]

Too much booze, I am having flashbacks to the 80's...

To what, your retirement party?

[channtheman]

Ugly. The 2 runs on 1st and 2nd down really sealed it for us.

[pbmax]

Newhouse with a complete whiff.

[red]

way to try and lose your 3rd QB of the year o-line

you guys are great

[red]

Newhouse with a complete whiff.

i for one am just shocked by that development

[pittstang5]

F'n Newhouse. If he even chips the guy, tolzien has a little bit of chance.

How the hell is in there and not Sherrod!?!?!

[pittstang5]

Oh great, bush on the field. TD coming

[channtheman]

Anyone else get annoyed when a shitty player makes ONE play and does anything besides line up for the next play?

[Guiness]

Bush with nice coverage and a diving knock away.

Eat that Red! lol

[Teamcheez1]

2 First downs in the first half.
No 3rd down conversions.

[TravisWilliams23]

TD in 5 plays.

[pbmax]

Unbelievable. Manning runs away again.

[pittstang5]

How the fuck do you not sack ELI F'n MANNING!!!

[channtheman]

We make Eli Manning look like beast mode runner.

[pbmax]

Oh great, bush on the field. TD coming

He's the dime back. Was second play he has made. Also had good tackle earlier.

[red]

oh come on fat mike, lets just get to halftime

you just stopped the clock for them

[pittstang5]

So when MM gets cute with the Timeouts, it always back fires

[pbmax]

Twill with another nice tackle.

[channtheman]

Who thinks we still run the ball up the middle with no timeouts? This might be our best shot to score since we have to throw downfield.

[Badgerinmaine]

Nice to see the D get off the field quickly for once.

[pittstang5]

Pick 6 coming

[pbmax]

Who teaches the Packers ball carriers to run and jump into traffic with the ball?

Hyde just did it and Lacy does it all the time.

[red]

Bush with nice coverage and a diving knock away.

Eat that Red! lol

jokes on you. they'll pry give him a 5 year 30 million dollar extension after the game because he was our best defender today

[KalamazooPackerFan]

I think MM ought to let Aaron call the plays in the 2nd half.

[pbmax]

GO THE BLEEP OUT OF BOUNDS!

[red]

that pass had to be tipped

[channtheman]

Clock it and go the the end zone.

Take a fucking shot. Don't attempt a field goal.

[red]

58 yard FG attempt

i'm gonna guess a miss is coming

and we'll all blame crosby

[pittstang5]

HA HA...i will piss myself if he makes this.

[pbmax]

Nice kick Mase.

[Teamcheez1]

No way Crosby makes this FG

[Guiness]

56 yarder? Man another 5 yards...

Wow. Gota like that!

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Helluva kick.

[red]

WOW

good job mase

[Badgerinmaine]

BANG!
I promise not to complain about Crosby...at least for the rest of the day.

[channtheman]

Clock it and go the the end zone.

Take a fucking shot. Don't attempt a field goal.


Glad I'm wrong again. Can't believe he made that. This game could be worse. How the fuck the Gnats only scored 10 is beyond me.

[pittstang5]

HA HA...i will piss myself if he makes this.

Oops..i did, a little

[Joemailman]

A kick like that makes you wonder how he ever misses one. Kickers are weird.

[Teamcheez1]

I'm stunned.

Twill with a pick in the first half.
Crosby with a long FG.

St. Reggie must be looking down upon us.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

One of his better kicks, straight and oodles of distance.

[Rutnstrut]

Oops..i did, a little

I hope you are wearing your Packers Depends.

[Bossman641]

Hell of a kick. Let's get lead coming outta half

[Badgerinmaine]

One of his better kicks, straight and oodles of distance.
Sure was--it might well have been good from 60.

[pittstang5]

Hell of a kick. Let's get lead coming outta half

Pft....almost dropped my beer.

[Bretsky]

I had a good feeling about the kick; THIS is why it was so hard to cut Crosby

His leg is do dam strong power wise he's good from sixty five yards...it's just the aim

[Bretsky]

GOTTA SAY...........I'VE HAD MM'S BACK for his playcalling; I've considered him to be one of the top playcallers in the NFL

BUT

[Bretsky]

this is undboubtedly the WORST half of playcalling I have seen by MM

FREE SCOTT TOLZIEN

Gotta give him a chance to succeed...............sick of run on first run on second...blitz on third

Dear MM...STOP BEING A PUSSY

FREE SCOTT TOLZIEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[red]

A kick like that makes you wonder how he ever misses one. Kickers are weird.

i don't know. his two misses last week were dead straight, he just aimed wrong

this one, it took off, very left, the sliced back to center after about 10 yards and went dead straight. it was a weird kick

[channtheman]

WHY? Throw the ball!

[pittstang5]

Run, run....anyone, anyone?

[red]

run on first

run on second

3rd and 8 coming

[pbmax]

Well, his arm is stronger now.

[pittstang5]

Fuck the run game

[channtheman]

Fucking MM. Throw the god damn ball!! Tolzien can fucking throw it! Don't leave it up to 3rd down and Jordy being amazing.

[Bretsky]

this is undboubtedly the WORST half of playcalling I have seen by MM

FREE SCOTT TOLZIEN

Gotta give him a chance to succeed...............sick of run on first run on second...blitz on third

Dear MM...STOP BEING A PUSSY

FREE SCOTT TOLZIEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MM just set up Tolzien to fail again

He overcome the lack of quality playcalling from MM to make a great pass to Jordy

[Guiness]

Nelson with another couple hundred thousand...is anyone keeping track of this?

[Teamcheez1]

Why are we starting out again with the playcalling like this?

[pittstang5]

God damn this run game

[red]

jordy and jones have really stepped up their games the last couple of weeks to make tolzien look a bit better then he is IMO

[Bretsky]

Hey, I got a great idea..since we have done this every time...run on first........

[channtheman]

Tolzien only threw 10 passes in the first half. FUCK!

[pittstang5]

HA ha...yep, sw that coming.

[red]

Yup

there's INT #1

horrible throw

[Bretsky]

OK; nice interception........on second and eleven...........

[red]

i personally think he has 2 more int's in him today

[pittstang5]

i personally think he has 2 more int's in him today

At least

[pbmax]

And that is why he is handing off more than passing.

I love the complaints about running. Which of the 2 INTs and the 2 other could have been INTs do people not remember last week?

[Teamcheez1]

i personally think he has 2 more int's in him today

If MM keeps calling runs for no yardage on 1st and 2nd down, you may be right.

[Bretsky]

if he does not have the abilty to get in a groove he should not be playing
this playcaling has made it impossible to get in any groove

[channtheman]

i personally think he has 2 more int's in him today

He might only throw the ball 2 more times today.

[pbmax]

Its tautology Sunday here on PackerRats. Throw before third down!

~INT~

I saw that coming!

[pittstang5]

Three packers in the area and no one home. Ha ha...love it!!

[red]

LOL

wide fucking open

3 guys able to cover him, and no one does

[pbmax]

What is the purpose of MD Jennings?

[channtheman]

if he does not have the abilty to get in a groove he should not be playing
this playcaling has made it impossible to get in any groove

This is so true. He almost got into a groove early on, but we quickly squashed that by running twice in the red zone.

DB breakdown right on cue. Wide open receiver with 3 defenders standing around him. LOL

[Guiness]

What the holy hell was that? Two DBs running into each other. Three of them on the screen and Nicks neatly in the middle of them for an easy catch!

[Teamcheez1]

3 guys near the ball, no one covering the WR.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Again, a bunch of dbs standing around waiting for the receiever to catch the ball.

[channtheman]

Williams is playing well today. Very nice tackles on those sideline throws.

[pittstang5]

Tramon tackle? no, that was house...right?

[Bretsky]

And that is why he is handing off more than passing.

I love the complaints about running. Which of the 2 INTs and the 2 other could have been INTs do people not remember last week?


If our goal is to score nine points this is fine playcalling
He came in last week with really no reps and should be more prepared this week
If he has no chance for success he should not be playing
Hey, Vince Young and TEEBBOO......WOOOOOO.......are somewhere

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Keystone cops again today...

[red]

we're lucky the giants suck hard this year

[Harlan Huckleby]

we're seeing a bad football team today.

unfortunately the Packers are even worse

[pbmax]

if he does not have the abilty to get in a groove he should not be playing
this playcaling has made it impossible to get in any groove

He's 8 of 13 with 1 pick and 1 near pick. How much groovier can he get?

He's the same as last week.

[Bretsky]

What is the purpose of MD Jennings?

Typically we play two safeties in the lineup but we only have one

He's on of the many guys who imitates in safety on our defense

[channtheman]

If our goal is to score nine points this is fine playcalling
He came in last week with really no reps and should be more prepared this week
If he has no chance for success he should not be playing
Hey, Vince Young and TEEBBOO......WOOOOOO.......are somewhere

And supposedly MM said that he feels the entire playbook is open to Tolzien. Answer this, is this how we would call a game if Rodgers were playing?

[Harlan Huckleby]

If our goal is to score nine points this is fine playcalling
He came in last week with really no reps and should be more prepared this week
If he has no chance for success he should not be playing
Hey, Vince Young and TEEBBOO......WOOOOOO.......are somewhere

I agree. They can't win with run run bomb. Need much more variety in play calling. If they lose they lose, but at least take a chance.

[pittstang5]

Good lord, why do I even bother. As soon as we have a chance, BOOM, something goes terribly wrong.

[red]

Williams is playing well today. Very nice tackles on those sideline throws.

LOL

told you guys, tramon makes one INT and we think he's all world again and forget all the other plays today he's fucked up

no, he's having another classic tramon shit game, he just had a ball thrown to him and he held on to it, and he actually made one tackle

give him the game ball

[pbmax]

Someone just killed Bostick.

[channtheman]

Holding incoming. Slocum should be fired on the basis of ever allowing his KR to return out of the end zone.

[Bretsky]

He's 8 of 13 with 1 pick and 1 near pick. How much groovier can he get?

He's the same as last week.


He looks like Trent Dilfer without a defense; The Giants aren't going to let us run until we play action and have some passing success in first down. They are playing run and we are not capitalizing.

[pittstang5]

Penalty, against the PAck on decent return.....ummmm

[channtheman]

LOL

told you guys, tramon makes one INT and we think he's all world again and forget all the other plays today he's fucked up

no, he's having another classic tramon shit game, he just had a ball thrown to him and he held on to it, and he actually made one tackle

give him the game ball


I just felt like giving him props for his tackles actually. :D

[red]

quit bringing the fucking ball out

if we don't get to the 20, then we always get flagged for holding

we'd just be so much better off if they stopped trying to return the ball

[Bossman641]

Think there's an unwritten rule that anytime we get past 20 it must be called back with penalty

[pbmax]

Giants D knew that was a pass. ILBs backed off LOS at the audible.

[Teamcheez1]

Our return team is so bad. They should never run that back.

[pittstang5]

That's how you tackle. Take a lesson Packer D.

[pbmax]

Like the screen.

[Guiness]

Best KR of the day...called back for holding. No surprise.

[channtheman]

Quarless with a nice catch. One handed. Damn.

[red]

OMG

a TE that caught a ball and made a play

suck it finley

[channtheman]

Those last two throws are... even if they catch them it's 3rd and 8.

[pittstang5]

STALL!!

[red]

lol

gotta love these passes for negative yards. its nice to pad your QB's completion %

[channtheman]

Please give us a first down. Pleasee!!!!

[red]

wild almost INT #3 and a crazy brett favre style throw

[channtheman]

Selling what announcer? The Gnat ran into him?

[red]

come on masthay SELL THAT SHIT HARDER

do a fucking backflip and act like you've been shot like every other punter does

[channtheman]

Short. By about half a yard. Nice try though.

[pittstang5]

No way we get this...ha ha stupid move

[pbmax]

I don't think he got it.

If they mark that he did, I would challenge

[Harlan Huckleby]

I love the fake there

[Guiness]

That's a lucky break? Is that one an automatic first down?

edit: nope ???First time I've ever seen a penalty on the kicker not result in a first down. And I mean first time EVER.

[Rutnstrut]

I was hoping for a fake there.

[red]

failed fake punt

i'm shocked

md jennings dives for the first down marker and lands 7 feet short

they got a great spot though, he didn't land within a yard of the marker

[channtheman]

I like the call, even though it didn't work.

[Teamcheez1]

I don't like the call. Just gave their offense an extra 30 yards.

[pittstang5]

Stupid call, now it'll be 17 to 6.

[channtheman]

That's a lucky break? Is that one an automatic first down?

edit: nope ???First time I've ever seen a penalty on the kicker not result in a first down. And I mean first time EVER.

Hate to say it, but you're in the wrong here, or haven't seen much football. Running into the kicker, as opposed to roughing the kicker has been around for a while. The latter being the 15 yard penalty and automatic first down.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Why not? They ain't gonna win without taking some chances.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I don't like the call.


Why? If you punt, there is good chance they get the ball at 20. Or worse, given packer coverage.

[channtheman]

To those who don't like the call, we lose about 15 yards of field position for a chance to keep the ball. I say it's worth it.

[Bossman641]

Wtf

[channtheman]

Can it be? A 3 and out? No, it can't be. Glad he caught that too. Some idiot on the D line lined up off sides anyways

[Harlan Huckleby]

should have been interceptted

[pittstang5]

Fucking A. Hyde just puts his arm out and stops that pass.

[red]

WHO THE FUCK CARES WHO PUT PINWHEELS ON YOUR FUCKING THING YOU GIANT FAT FUCKING DOUCHEBAG SARAGOSA

[pittstang5]

Just more chances for us to take the ball away. Oh wait

[channtheman]

We made the needed adjustments to cover that free release TE. Was well done that last play.

[Teamcheez1]

Fake punt. Bad defense. Soon to be down by at least 10.

[Harlan Huckleby]

cruz is man playing against boys

[red]

lol

we just have no idea how to stop anything

[pittstang5]

of course, penalty against the packers.

17 to 6...told ya. it's coming.

[channtheman]

LOL. Can anyone take this defense seriously? Need to hold them to a field goal, or this game is about over.

[pbmax]

I agree. They can't win with run run bomb. Need much more variety in play calling. If they lose they lose, but at least take a chance.

He was 8 of 13 playing that way. He is not going to be better. Just look at the last drive.

[Guiness]

lol @ holding on Mathews

One handed? Really? And I saw nothing on the replay

[pittstang5]

of course, penalty against the packers.

17 to 6...told ya. it's coming.

Oh fuck, i mean 20.. i forgot they got a FG already

[Teamcheez1]

Does Raji ever make a play?

[pbmax]

Why were you three yards behind the first down marker?

[woodbuck27]

The Bears pulled out a win in OT over the Titans. Score 23-20.

This game is huge for the Packers.

[Harlan Huckleby]

why do giants kill packers?

[pittstang5]

ha ha...good lord, the defense is worse than bad. they're just clueless.

[Guiness]

This is awful

The defense is just so painful to watch. How do allow a TE to sit down there?

[Bossman641]

Third and five so cover at 7 yards. Even that dumb fuck siragusa sees it

[channtheman]

He was 8 of 13 playing that way. He is not going to be better. Just look at the last drive.

I find the play calling curious to say the least. MM either only runs it seems, or he only passes. There is almost no variety within a single drive.

It's either the patented run run pass or pass pass pass. At least it feels like that.


First time today the fucking refs don't blow the whistle the instant the RB got hit.

[Teamcheez1]

Nobody even covered the receiver.

[pittstang5]

Good god, this is just funny

[red]

we have scored 2 td's in the last 10 quarters and counting

[red]

season dagger?

[channtheman]

Well, does anyone here see us scoring TWO TD's in the 4th quarter? I sure don't.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I wonder where pack will pick in draft. Who looks good near top?

[Bretsky]

He was 8 of 13 playing that way. He is not going to be better. Just look at the last drive.

If it's helpless than take his ass out
I thought the two short passes on first and second were what we should have been doing from the start of the game

And why is MJ Jennings on this team ? Leaving the middle of the field uncovered for an ez first down on third and four .......

Jarrett Bush is a better cover guy

[Teamcheez1]

The game is over and the season is over.

[pbmax]

OK. Now that the fake punt blew up entirely, question:

Why was the penalty on the punt not 15 yards? Was that call eliminated entirely? Or can the ref still make that call?

[red]

Does Raji ever make a play?

no, but he still thinks he's worth 10 million a year

[Bretsky]

Rodgers needs to get back asap

[woodbuck27]

That's the price of giving up field position in a close game with that faked punt and dash and get slashed.

The score goes from an obtainable 13-6 to 20-6 on the following series.

[pittstang5]

Well, I'm going to enjoy my Sundays from now on. There is no way I'm watching this pitiful excuse of a team play after today. This is pathetic. Even with Rogers, I think this game goes about the same way. Giants have had our number for the last several years. We just can't keep up with them.

[Teamcheez1]

no, but he still thinks he's worth 10 million a year

Since reading about his contract offer, I have been watching him every time he is in the game. Nothing. They don't even need to double team him

[channtheman]

season dagger?

I'm not ready for that yet. Lions are 6-4, Bears are 6-4. We'll be 5-5 after today. After we lose next Sunday, if Rodgers actually comes back, we have a chance to run the table and win our division. The Lions and Bears suck. This is assuming Rodgers comes back. He probably has another injury we don't know about, or does require surgery on his shoulder, and our trainers didn't know and then when they found out, forgot to schedule the surgery.

"Stopped shy of the 20." Why do we still run the ball out of the end zone on KR? Seriously, Slocum, why?

[red]

Well, does anyone here see us scoring TWO TD's in the 4th quarter? I sure don't.

that would be the most points we've scored in a quarter in 3.5 games

i don't see it happening

[pbmax]

If it's helpless than take his ass out
I thought the two short passes on first and second were what we should have been doing from the start of the game

And why is MJ Jennings on this team ? Leaving the middle of the field uncovered for an ez first down on third and four .......

Jarrett Bush is a better cover guy

He's not helpless. But there is no room for error.

And Flynn isn't ready after less than a week of prep and no practice reps with the first. This happens on your 3rd QB.

I do agree, the play call mix has been predictable. But he wasn't going to pass more with only 20 or so first half plays.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Rodgers needs to get back asap

I'd say the opposite - no point is rushing him

[channtheman]

OK. Now that the fake punt blew up entirely, question:

Why was the penalty on the punt not 15 yards? Was that call eliminated entirely? Or can the ref still make that call?

It must be a judgment call. The ref felt the punter was not roughed, merely ran into.

[pittstang5]

OK. Now that the fake punt blew up entirely, question:

Why was the penalty on the punt not 15 yards? Was that call eliminated entirely? Or can the ref still make that call?

it was the 5 yard, running into the kicker penalty. on 4 and 12, we gained 5 yards to make it 4 and 7.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Our only hope for the future is if packer board makes some serious changes. Otherwise, I will not live to see another packer superbowl.

[Teamcheez1]

Another useless return. Does Slocum actually coach players during the game?

[woodbuck27]

Well, does anyone here see us scoring TWO TD's in the 4th quarter? I sure don't.

Not against that GIANTS 'D'. A defense that has been terrific in the fourth quarter over the course of their current win streak.

[Rutnstrut]

Fire MM, Capers, AND TT.

[Harlan Huckleby]

air it out

[Joemailman]

Is it too early to say that giving Burnett a big contract was a mistake?

[Packers4Glory]

Bye bye playoffs. Might as well sit Rodgers and play for a higher pick

[red]

Since reading about his contract offer, I have been watching him every time he is in the game. Nothing. They don't even need to double team him

thats why i wouldn't even pay him 4 a year

[George Cumby]

Dare I say: "Fire Capers!", or is that premature?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Tolzien can throw, fucki you defeatists

[PA Pack Fan]

Is it too early to say that giving Burnett a big contract was a mistake?

No. He sucks.

[George Cumby]

Collins really covered a lot of the blemishes back there.......

[pbmax]

Too many missing pieces on offense.

Cobb, Finley, Rodgers, Wallace and pick-a-tackle.

M3 is probably not this conservative at home, but it hasn't helped on the road. Pressure on pass rush hasn't been as bad as pressure on run game.

[pittstang5]

Tolzien can throw, fucki you defeatists

Yes, but sometimes to the other team...just wait, it's coming.

[Joemailman]

Dare I say: "Fire Capers!", or is that premature?

I think you need to start an official thread.

[channtheman]

No. He sucks.

Bring back Peprah! Do that every play.

[pbmax]

Holy crap was that on a line

[pittstang5]

Uh, redzone...STALL!!!

[red]

wow, nice thrown and catch

i agree with moose, screw the short passes, let him air it out

[pbmax]

One of the problems is Lacy. He has not been reading his blocking well.

[channtheman]

Can't we just throw 3 fucking passes into the end zone when we get to the red zone? This running shit is a waste of a play.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Yes, but sometimes to the other team...just wait, it's coming.

in uo face!

[pittstang5]

and we run....

[red]

uh oh, we're in the redzone

we all know what that means

[Teamcheez1]

Time to run twice in a row.

[pbmax]

Love the call. Why didn't Kuhn go wide?

[red]

lol, kuhn catches the ball and runs back into the heart of the defense

he sucks too

[Harlan Huckleby]

?nice footwork from kuhn!~

[channtheman]

WOW! What a run! Can't believe we actually just did that.

[pbmax]

And that is why you run? Sometimes it works?

[Harlan Huckleby]

lol, kuhn catches the ball and runs back into the heart of the defense

he sucks too

+1

[Bretsky]

Welcome Captain Obvious...we can be effective when we play action on first down and stay out of second and third and long

[red]

there you go lacy, power that shit in

alright D, you need a fucking stop

but i'm seeing a 13 minute drive to end the game

[Bossman641]

Fuck, come on defense. Have some pride

[pbmax]

And Newhouse even finished a block. Its a Thanksgiving miracle.

[channtheman]

lol, kuhn catches the ball and runs back into the heart of the defense

he sucks too

Did you hear all the fucking idiot Packer fans go "KUUUUUUHN" too. I hate that people have to have a name to shout.

[Harlan Huckleby]

game on

gentleman, today a packer legend is born

[channtheman]

And that is why you run? Sometimes it works?


Shocking that it worked. Lacy really showed some power there.

[pittstang5]

Now, the defense will let the Giants run, run..pass. 1st down Giants. They will run out the clock and get a TD to put this game away. Guaranteed. our defense has done nothing today or all season to show otherwise.

[channtheman]

there you go lacy, power that shit in

alright D, you need a fucking stop

but i'm seeing a 13 minute drive to end the game


Right? We won't see the ball again.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Welcome Captain Obvious...we can be effective when we play action on first down and stay out of second and third and long

Pbmax, who never buys green bananas for fear they won;t turn yellow, sez reign it in

[PA Pack Fan]

Lacys getting fired up!

[Bretsky]

And that is why you run? Sometimes it works?

I would also run on third and a half yard after getting the defense off balance with big plays from the air

[pbmax]

it was the 5 yard, running into the kicker penalty. on 4 and 12, we gained 5 yards to make it 4 and 7.

Yeah but that was two good hits. Why not 15? Is it always 5 now?

[channtheman]

3rd and 8. Get ready for wide open wide receiver!

[Guiness]

lol, Manning must have a tell on his snap. Jones was in full flight at the snap and by the guard before he got out of his stance.

[channtheman]

Please don't be on us, somehow. Please just be holding. Thank god its on the GNATS!

[pbmax]

I would also run on third and a half yard after getting the defense off balance with big plays from the air

You are fooling no one on 3rd and short by running.

[channtheman]

How do you hold on such a shitty return? Seriously, why does our ST always hold, on every fucking play. Or block in the back, same thing.

[Bossman641]

game on

gentleman, today a packer legend is born

Bob mcginn?

[Guiness]

Yup, Manning or the center is giving something away there.

[PA Pack Fan]

WTF Mathews...get out of the fucking way!

[Bretsky]

DATONE JONES.............HIGH UPSIDE for that guy...he has really been bringing it on
He's shown the most of any first round pick of any of them....since Clay IMO

[Harlan Huckleby]

Giants are just bad enough to lose this thing. Lets go Tolzien, shut your eyes and wing it, wing it hard, boy

[Bossman641]

That 3 st penalties?

[pbmax]

A score and a stop. When was the last time that happened?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Bob mcginn?

matt flynn. stand by...

[Harlan Huckleby]

never mind

[channtheman]

LMAO. Those short quick throws today have killed us. Tolzien has done so much better airing it out. His two quick throws were both picked. LOL LOL LOL.

[pbmax]

DATONE JONES.............HIGH UPSIDE for that guy...he has really been bringing it on
He's shown the most of any first round pick of any of them....since Clay IMO

Wasn't that Matthews sack?

[Harlan Huckleby]

that was super human

[Teamcheez1]

Tolzien you suck.

[pbmax]

never mind

Seriously, chann might be onto something. Shorter throws for him have been an adventure. JPP just waited for that one.

I wonder of Bach was supposed to cut him?

[channtheman]

That's one way to get the ball back. :lol:

[Joemailman]

Giants are just bad enough to lose this thing. Lets go Tolzien, shut your eyes and wing it, wing it hard, boy

I think that's what he did.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Tolzien has to work on vision, he never saw the defensive guy.

[channtheman]

Hey, an adjustment!!!!! Only took until nearly halfway through the 4th before our KR decides to take a knee and allow us to get the ball at the 20.

[PA Pack Fan]

I think that's what he did. The eyes shut part anyway.....

[Harlan Huckleby]

pack working on the clock

[Iron Mike]

i personally think he has 2 more int's in him today

Prescient.

[channtheman]

Yeah, I'd like to see Tolzien just throw bombs. The Giants secondary has been as bad as ours.

[Teamcheez1]

Some of you said Tolzien looked like Brett Favre. You may be right....

[channtheman]

No announcer whoever you are, it DOES take away from what the Gnats have done. Shit QB play means a whole fucking lot in the NFL, numb nut.

[pittstang5]

Ha ha..told ya it was coming. pick six DAGGER!!!

[PA Pack Fan]

oh this fucking playcalling

[channtheman]

Go for it. Why punt? The game is already over, but we won't get the ball back if we punt.

[Harlan Huckleby]

fake punt

[Teamcheez1]

The playcalling is again amazing.

[pittstang5]

game over, season over.

[pbmax]

Keep celebrating Giants. You beat the 2nd best college QB in the State in the last 5 years.