Official Packers vs Giants game day thread

[channtheman]

This could be a rookie mistake, but I figure after being here for nearly 6 years, I can start my first game day thread, and lead the Packers out of this midseason slump.

Eli Manning has been bad this year, throwing 16 INT's. However, in the Giants recent 3 game winning streak, he has thrown just one. That said, the Giants have beaten 3 bad teams in the Vikings, Eagles (what does that make us if we couldn't beat them at home!), and the Raiders.

In New York, this will be a tough one. One I don't have a lot of confidence in. I think this will definitely come down to the defense. If they could not only get a few turnovers, but maybe even score a TD, and the offense doesn't sputter in the red zone this week, I think we have a decent shot. Tolzien getting reps all week should help him after Seneca Wallace wasted last weeks reps by hurting his "groin."

As for our divisional race, if we can somehow win today, we can never count out the ability of the Lions and Bears to fall off late in the season. If we can win 10 games, that might be enough to win the NFC North.


So I say to fellow packer rats, make your obligatory post, have the beer at the ready, and lets win this fucking game!

[red]

gag

it feels like a choir having to sit here and watched todays game

and no, you're not stepping on any toes by starting the thread, someone usually has to just step up and bite the bullet . you stepped up before some of the others started bitching that there is no game thread

[KalamazooPackerFan]

This could be a rookie mistake, but I figure after being here for nearly 6 years, I can start my first game day thread, and lead the Packers out of this midseason slump.

Eli Manning has been bad this year, throwing 16 INT's. However, in the Giants recent 3 game winning streak, he has thrown just one. That said, the Giants have beaten 3 bad teams in the Vikings, Eagles (what does that make us if we couldn't beat them at home!), and the Raiders.

In New York, this will be a tough one. One I don't have a lot of confidence in. I think this will definitely come down to the defense. If they could not only get a few turnovers, but maybe even score a TD, and the offense doesn't sputter in the red zone this week, I think we have a decent shot. Tolzien getting reps all week should help him after Seneca Wallace wasted last weeks reps by hurting his "groin."

As for our divisional race, if we can somehow win today, we can never count out the ability of the Lions and Bears to fall off late in the season. If we can win 10 games, that might be enough to win the NFC North.


So I say to fellow packer rats, make your obligatory post, have the beer at the ready, and lets win this fucking game!


Right on!

[Bretsky]

Thanks for stepping up Channelman ! I tink Joe suggestee me giving it a try but hisorically I'm not effective until we have little to no hope....so it mightbe a bit early :)
With that being said, last week I noted that I expected a loss and I do this week as well. GB needs to win the turnover battle but this yr our defense is not getting turnovers.

[denverYooper]

The Giants are a potential slumpbuster. They look hot after a few drinks and maybe bending them over can get the Pack back on track but no one's going to run around bragging about it until they reel off a few in a row.

[Fritz]

The Giants are a potential slumpbuster. They look hot after a few drinks and maybe bending them over can get the Pack back on track but no one's going to run around bragging about it until they reel off a few in a row.

Scoring touchdowns since Rodgers has been out has been agonizingly difficult. The defense, the defense the defense. They've got to step it up - stop the Gints, get a couple turnovers.

I'm still deeply disappointed in this defense the last two weeks. They seemed to be coming together,. That thing where they are all buying in, every guy does his job, and they stop people. But now, they look like 2011 again, every guy doing his own thing and everybody looking like a goddamn Keystone Kop.

I'm thinking Dom has to game plan to beat the band, and MM has to get the defense to execute. Dom's not going to inspire anyone to approach this game from the proper persepective - he teaches so well and game plans well enough, but he doesn't seem to be able to get a defense to execute consistently over time.

It's all on the defense, as I expect Tolzien and company to be able to put up no more than 20 points.

[pbmax]

Greg Punzo's twitter account and http://feed2all.eu are most likely committing some kind of crime by posting these links.

[pbmax]

I expect the defense to improve over the previous couple of weeks. G-men can't run well and so the Packers might not have the 4th Quarter performance problem again. Matthews will be better.

But they will throw deep and they will hit something. And that means they will score. And that means Tolzien has to convert in the red zone. Its going to be tough.

In a squeaker, Packers 24 Giants 23.

[red]

does matt flynn see the field today?

and if so, when?

[Fritz]

He'll see the field because - the type of season it's been - Tolzien will get hurt.

How about Davon House stepping up his game today? And can Burnett please remove his head from his ass for a few hours today, since we have only the ghost of Charlie Peprah/ Marques Manuel/Antwan Edwards/The third-round-guy-from-UCLA-who-was-a-literature-major at the other safety spot?

And for god's sake will someone (legally) hit Eli today?

[KYPack]

Thx, Channtheman.

Red, don't jinx us!

[red]

He'll see the field because - the type of season it's been - Tolzien will get hurt.

How about Davon House stepping up his game today? And can Burnett please remove his head from his ass for a few hours today, since we have only the ghost of Charlie Peprah/ Marques Manuel/Antwan Edwards/The third-round-guy-from-UCLA-who-was-a-literature-major at the other safety spot?

And for god's sake will someone (legally) hit Eli today?

think this is the third week in a row where we lose our starting QB on the first drive?

that would have to be some kind of record

and i would be happy if it was an illegal hit on eli. at this point we can't be too picky. take any kind of QB hit we can get. even if it's 5 seconds after the ball is thrown

[channtheman]

You guys are correct that Eli will beat us deep. I predict at least 2 TD's on 50+ yard passes. The defense HAS to equalize that with a pick six. Going to be a tough one, especially since the D rarely forces turnovers.

[King Friday]

I think the defense steps up today. They've been embarrassed twice in row. They got the shit kicked out of them all week...on the practice field, in the film rooms, in meetings. Those SOBs better be ready to come out and punch someone in the mouth. There is too much talent on this defense to be so mediocre in creating turnovers. The Giants are just the kind of team that could help this Packer defense get back some needed confidence. You get pressure on Eli, and all sorts of crap can happen.

Offensively...ugh. 8 man fronts are a kick to the gut when you know you can't pass the damn ball. While I love Lacy, we need to see more of Franklin IMO. We need some speed out of the backfield to get to the edges on both runs and passes, and someone who is going to make defenders miss and potentially break a big play. You can't expect Lacy to carry 25+ times effectively when the defense knows he's going to be the primary weapon and you have a Badger QB not named Wilson under center.

[bobblehead]

The Giants are a potential slumpbuster. They look hot after a few drinks and maybe bending them over can get the Pack back on track but no one's going to run around bragging about it until they reel off a few in a row.

I usually don't brag even after a few slumpbusters, but I crow the minute I tap an 8 or better.

[bobblehead]

Scoring touchdowns since Rodgers has been out has been agonizingly difficult. The defense, the defense the defense. They've got to step it up - stop the Gints, get a couple turnovers.

I'm still deeply disappointed in this defense the last two weeks. They seemed to be coming together,. That thing where they are all buying in, every guy does his job, and they stop people. But now, they look like 2011 again, every guy doing his own thing and everybody looking like a goddamn Keystone Kop.

I'm thinking Dom has to game plan to beat the band, and MM has to get the defense to execute. Dom's not going to inspire anyone to approach this game from the proper persepective - he teaches so well and game plans well enough, but he doesn't seem to be able to get a defense to execute consistently over time.

It's all on the defense, as I expect Tolzien and company to be able to put up no more than 20 points.

This situation bodes well for the D. I always like them better when they play to win instead of playing to let the offense win. I expect balls out chaotic play. Blitzes, gambles, etc. Generally they have played better this way under Dom.

[George Cumby]

M3's teams seem to play best when backed into a corner.

The same goes for Grumpy's Giants.

Eli > Tolzien/Flynn

I lack faith in this team.

Giants win, 27-17

[bobblehead]

does matt flynn see the field today?

and if so, when?

I don't know what to think of Flynn, but I will say this. The Flynn that left GB would thrive in this offense. He was awesome at identifying the single coverage and attacking it deep. In a game where the G Men will load the LOS to stop the run Flynn would have excelled...I just don't know if he is the same guy anymore.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

This could be a rookie mistake, but I figure after being here for nearly 6 years, I can start my first game day thread, and lead the Packers out of this midseason slump.

Eli Manning has been bad this year, throwing 16 INT's. However, in the Giants recent 3 game winning streak, he has thrown just one. That said, the Giants have beaten 3 bad teams in the Vikings, Eagles (what does that make us if we couldn't beat them at home!), and the Raiders.

In New York, this will be a tough one. One I don't have a lot of confidence in. I think this will definitely come down to the defense. If they could not only get a few turnovers, but maybe even score a TD, and the offense doesn't sputter in the red zone this week, I think we have a decent shot. Tolzien getting reps all week should help him after Seneca Wallace wasted last weeks reps by hurting his "groin."

As for our divisional race, if we can somehow win today, we can never count out the ability of the Lions and Bears to fall off late in the season. If we can win 10 games, that might be enough to win the NFC North.


So I say to fellow packer rats, make your obligatory post, have the beer at the ready, and lets win this fucking game!

I don't think beer will be enough today...

[CaptainKickass]

Obligatory game day post.

[KYPack]

I don't think beer will be enough today...

I'm trying to decide btw CC and Bacardi myself.

[bobblehead]

Obligatory game day post.

Obligatory reply...I think I haven't done that in awhile...It might be the reason we are losing is me disrespecting the captain.

[Joemailman]

Obligatory game day post.

Thanks Captain.

[Joemailman]

I'm trying to decide btw CC and Bacardi myself.

Figured you for some good Kentucky Bourbon.

[pittstang5]

Simple Plan:
1. Avoid turnovers on offense
2. Create turnovers on defense
3. Make Eli uncomfortable as possible - need a pass rush
4. Secondary to get their head out of their ass, cover their guy/area and be physical with the opposing receivers

This team has the talent to accomplish all four items above, I'm sure of it, I'm not a homer. I just don't understand why they haven't.

Unfortunately, because of the dreadful play the last two weeks, I just don't see this team beating this Giants team. Eli is going to light this secondary up. I doubt the Giants run the ball more than 15 times the entire game - why should they, our secondary is dreadful. Furthermore, if we get a stop, we'll get nailed for some BS penalty.

The Packers have to play perfect today in order to get a win and that's just not possible, especially this year. 5-5 after today....bet on it.

[denverYooper]

You guys are correct that Eli will beat us deep. I predict at least 2 TD's on 50+ yard passes. The defense HAS to equalize that with a pick six. Going to be a tough one, especially since the D rarely forces turnovers.

I'm on board with the idea that they'll probably get beat deep at least twice and that they will need to get at least one back.

[red]

Simple Plan:
1. Avoid turnovers on offense
2. Create turnovers on defense
3. Make Eli uncomfortable as possible - need a pass rush
4. Secondary to get their head out of their ass, cover their guy/area and be physical with the opposing receivers

This team has the talent to accomplish all four items above, I'm sure of it, I'm not a homer. I just don't understand why they haven't.

Unfortunately, because of the dreadful play the last two weeks, I just don't see this team beating this Giants team. Eli is going to light this secondary up. I doubt the Giants run the ball more than 15 times the entire game - why should they, our secondary is dreadful. Furthermore, if we get a stop, we'll get nailed for some BS penalty.

The Packers have to play perfect today in order to get a win and that's just not possible, especially this year. 5-5 after today....bet on it.

i don't see any of those 4 things happening today

1. i'm thinking the over/under on tolzien turnovers today is 2. and i's take the over on that action all day
2. our D is averaging about .2 takeaways per game. its like saying you think its gonna rain gold today. sure theres a slim chance it could happen, but its a slim chance
3. see #2 above
4. LOL, yeah thats's not happening

it would be nice for those 4 things to happen, but i'm not expecting an overnight miracle to happen here.

[CaptainKickass]

i don't see any of those 4 things happening today

1. i'm thinking the over/under on tolzien turnovers today is 2. and i's take the over on that action all day
2. our D is averaging about .2 takeaways per game. its like saying you think its gonna rain gold today. sure theres a slim chance it could happen, but its a slim chance
3. see #2 above
4. LOL, yeah thats's not happening

it would be nice for those 4 things to happen, but i'm not expecting an overnight miracle to happen here.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3flv5nWZgII

[Harlan Huckleby]

Shields and Barclay inactive. Not good.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Shields and Heywood might be their top two corners.

[red]

well what the hell is wrong with shields?

hamstring?

[pittstang5]

Shields and Barclay inactive. Not good.

Ha Ha, OH, it just keeps getting better. This fucking hamstring epidemic is getting REGODDAMNDICULOUS!

Wait, let me guess, Hawk, B. Jones and Lattimore are out too because they all went and got pedicures yesterday and their feet are still sore.

Oh J. Jones and Nelson will be out too because they got massages and their shoulders hurt.

THIS TEAM IS SOFT!

[MJZiggy]

I'm trying to decide btw CC and Bacardi myself.Tequila.

[pittstang5]

I'm going to do something I don't do during Packer games...drink. Shields out? This game is going to be funny as hell watching Williams and House cover Cruz and Nicks.

Oh and watching Bush play 5 yards off whatever receiver he decides to try and cover.

[denverYooper]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 39s

#Packers OLB Clay Matthews on field for warmup. His cast does indeed allow four fingers to be free. Wraps around right thumb.

[CaptainKickass]

Tequila.

Well,

It does have it's own theme song after all:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H6amDbAwlY

[channtheman]

well what the hell is wrong with shields?

hamstring?

shoestring. couldn't get his shoes tied

[channtheman]

Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 39s

#Packers OLB Clay Matthews on field for warmup. His cast does indeed allow four fingers to be free. Wraps around right thumb.

I thought I read somewhere that Clay was going to be cast less today.

[Joemailman]

I thought I read somewhere that Clay was going to be cast less today.

Clubless. Not castless.

[pittstang5]

At least we don't have to listen to Buck and Suck. So we have that going for us...which is nice.

[pbmax]

That play, catch by RB after flushing the QB is exactly what this team allows.

Doesn't hit the QB even after flush and no one can catch the RB to tackle him.

[channtheman]

Clubless. Not castless.

Ahh, you are correct. I got my casts mixed up with my clubs. :P

[channtheman]

Williams with a nice tackle on 2nd and 10.

[pbmax]

Eli Manning scrambles for 13 away from Matthews.

Unbelievable.

However, Bush and Williams each had nice tackles to prevent gains

[pbmax]

Giants safety read that run the entire way

[pbmax]

EDS with fantastic whiff.

[Bossman641]

Eds whiff

[channtheman]

Interesting tactic by the Packers. See if we can sneak an extra guy on the field and have an entire player advantage.

[pbmax]

3 penalties so far.

[Rutnstrut]

SLOPPY!!!!

[Bossman641]

Great start guys.

[pbmax]

Two worst special teams in the League and Packers allow a 32 yd return.

[channtheman]

This drive was pretty frustrating to watch. Plain ugly. Hopefully we can get it going later in the game. Missed tackles like crazy on the punt.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Packers look like they are just waiting the for the offense or returner to run to them!

[pittstang5]

Just got the game....ugh, already a 3 and out and then sp teams doing what they do. Time for a drink!

[Teamcheez1]

Slow start to this game. Don't have a good feeling so far.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Yuck...

[Bretsky]

Two worst special teams in the League and Packers allow a 32 yd return.

FIRE SLOCUM

[pbmax]

All day LONG in the pocket for Maning. And that is with a ILB cross blitz. Jones gets picked off by RB

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Middle of the field all day every day.

[red]

2nd and 20, we play prevent d and allow 15

LOVE IT

[pittstang5]

I just don't get it...Receivers are always open.

[pbmax]

Anyone else get the sense that the Giants know the Packer defense better than the Packers do?

[Bretsky]

It's 3rd and 12 and the Packers call an ineffective and ez to read WR screen

I sensed massivelly profane words coming out of Red's mouth as a bottle of Captains was hurled at the walls to who his excitement with the call

[Rutnstrut]

This defense SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[channtheman]

How did I instantly know that was Hawk's helmet on the ground?

[Teamcheez1]

The defense has no idea what they are doing out there.

[pbmax]

2nd and 20, we play prevent d and allow 15

LOVE IT

That wasn't a prevent it was Burnett being slow to react.

On 3rd down, Hawk got spun around on a weak hold and Daniels stunted his way out of the hole.

[Bretsky]

nice

[Rutnstrut]

Boy that Dom Capers is a genius, best D coord around.

[channtheman]

This defense fucking sucks. It's amazing how much Rodgers carried this team on offense.

[pbmax]

2 deep safeties and neither gets near the TE. Hyde is too shallow to force a tougher throw.

[Bretsky]

Boy that Dom Capers is a genius, best D coord around.

Who said that ???

[pittstang5]

So I waited all day to watch this shit. Too bad it's close to dark here or I'd go out and rake some leaves or something. Pathetic,

[Teamcheez1]

Do we have any safeties that can make a play in the secondary?

[Tony Oday]

There is your dagger.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Fire the defense!!!!

[red]

hawk losses his helmet for the 5th game in a row but still makes the tackle

at least we have one non pussy on the team

well, a long TD over the middle. imagine that

well fat mike, you were pissed after last weeks game and said things were gonna change in the morning. I've watched about 6 plays so far, and i've seen all of the same problems already that i saw last week

way to get that fixed

if you can't fix the many major problems we have every single game, then maybe we need to bring in someone who can

[channtheman]

Who said that ???

An announcer was saying something early on how great Dom was at getting pressure on the QB, etc.

[pbmax]

It's 3rd and 12 and the Packers call an ineffective and ez to read WR screen

I sensed massivelly profane words coming out of Red's mouth as a bottle of Captains was hurled at the walls to who his excitement with the call

His first look was middle or right but he came off it to other side. Not sure if it was decoy or legit though.

[Teamcheez1]

The only thing that has stopped the Giants so far is their penalties. We can't make a play to save our lives.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Fire MM!!!!

[TravisWilliams23]

Same shit every freakin' week. This has gotten old. Someone has to be accountable for this cluster.

[channtheman]

There is your dagger.


LMAO :lol:

[pittstang5]

Well, best thing that can happen out of all this is Capers and some other coaches are let go, at worst at the end of the season. No way Capers makes it out of this season with a job with the Packers.

[red]

ARRON RODGERS FOR MVP?

only player in history that can make both his offense and the defense somehow better by being in uniform

[Joemailman]

Offense, defense and special teams all looking equally bad. Nothink like team work. But it's still early. :-)

[pittstang5]

Do we have any safeties that can make a play in the secondary?

Nope

[pbmax]

Well, best thing that can happen out of all this is Capers and some other coaches are let go, at worst at the end of the season. No way Capers makes it out of this season with a job with the Packers.

Its not just Capers, its the coaches. The scheme was there. Hyde should be trailing that TE closely forcing a throw over the top, allowing time for a safety to converge.

But that guy is NEVER deep enough and the safeties never get there is time.

Coaching or players? Gotta be both at this point.

[Rutnstrut]

hawk losses his helmet for the 5th game in a row but still makes the tackle

at least we have one non pussy on the team

well, a long TD over the middle. imagine that

well fat mike, you were pissed after last weeks game and said things were gonna change in the morning. I've watched about 6 plays so far, and i've seen all of the same problems already that i saw last week

way to get that fixed

if you can't fix the many major problems we have every single game, then maybe we need to bring in someone who can

I agree, stubby is unwilling to do anything so kick his worthless, over rated ass out the door.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Do we have anybody who can make a play??

[channtheman]

Anyone else getting tired of run run pass?

[Bretsky]

Tolzien put into another 3rd down

[channtheman]

I should make an edit. run run pass punt.

[red]

It's 3rd and 12 and the Packers call an ineffective and ez to read WR screen

I sensed massivelly profane words coming out of Red's mouth as a bottle of Captains was hurled at the walls to who his excitement with the call

Fox wanted to make sure that we saw all the lions and steelers shake hands and then make it safely back to the locker room before they switched over to the packer game already in progress

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I wonder if that run run pass is fooling the giants?

[Bretsky]

gosh did that defender ever take his hands offf of Jones ?

[pittstang5]

Run, run, pass. 3 and out.

[Teamcheez1]

Run, Run, Pass, Punt
Run, Run, Pass, Punt

The MM playbook today.

[red]

well there's the first "should have been" int thrown by tolzien that i've seen.

how many did he have on the first series?

[pbmax]

gosh did that defender ever take his hands offf of Jones ?

Nope.

[pbmax]

well there's the first "should have been" int thrown by tolzien that i've seen.

how many did he have on the first series?

None. Looked right and threw WR screen left.

[pbmax]

Another TE dead wide open in middle of field on RB pass drop on second down

[channtheman]

Eli missed the wide open free released TE. I have a feeling that guy will be open all day long in the 10-15 yard range. Hopefully Eli doesn't see him today.

[pbmax]

Unbelieveable

[channtheman]

Seriously this defense. How the fuck is the NFL allowing this shit on the field?

[pbmax]

Nice close and tackle by Jones.

[Bossman641]

Every fucking time

[Teamcheez1]

Why do the Giants even run the ball? I would throw every down against this defense.

[channtheman]

Quickest whistle ever. Have you ever seen a ref blow a whistle the instant the guy is hit?

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Pathetic, just pathetic...

[pbmax]

Pressure worked that time.

[red]

WHY THE FUCK, IS CLAY COVERING CRUZ?

[red]

LOL

fuck us

and fuck this team

[channtheman]

Short. But close enough to potentially go for it. Where are they on the field?

[pbmax]

Nice tackle by Hyde.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

We have a shot if Giants keep dropping the ball. Well, mayne not...

[channtheman]

Just give em the first down. LMAO. This fucking defense. This is just ridiculous.

[pbmax]

What was that?

[Teamcheez1]

Moving the ball at will. This game will be over by halftime.

[pbmax]

Raji hit the dirt and Jones couldn't shake his block. One arm tackle won't work on Jacobs.

Wiliams with a nice tackle. Well, he might not be able to cover but he can blitz and tackle now.

[red]

boy, raji just earned all of that next contract on that 3rd down stuff

my bad, he was face first on the ground with the guy having to step over him

[channtheman]

So we have 6 plays for what like 7 yards in the first quarter? Defense doesn't miss a beat and continues to be awful. Even the Giants have a good running game against us.

[Rutnstrut]

Is anyone else getting static and cutting out of the game on TV?

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Too much booze, I am having flashbacks to the 80's...

[pbmax]

Local station was in standard def after having an interruption right at the beginning of the game. HD came back 5 minutes after that. Been OK since.

[red]

Is anyone else getting static and cutting out of the game on TV?

no

but, you're lucky

[red]

3rd and 10

i'm guessing TD here

[channtheman]

no

but, you're lucky

Comedic gold right there. :lol:

[Rutnstrut]

no

but, you're lucky

The way this game is going already, you may be right.

[channtheman]

Please kick the field goal. Thank you Coughlin.

[Joemailman]

Do the Packers safeties ever make plays before the ball is caught?

[red]

WHOOP

hooray for small victories

:wave::wave::wave::wave::wave::wave::wave::wave::w ave::wave::wave::wave::wave::wave::wave::wave::wav e::wave:

[pbmax]

There was a train of thought in previous years that Capers was over-mad scientist thinking this defense and causing confusion.

That is not the case this year. Players are just not getting to where they need to be.

Both pass rush and coverage.

[pbmax]

Do the Packers safeties ever make plays before the ball is caught?

No.

[Teamcheez1]

I don't think we have broken up a single pass in this game yet. We've managed to make some tackles, but we haven't made a play on the ball yet.

[Guiness]

gag

it feels like a choir having to sit here and watched todays game

and no, you're not stepping on any toes by starting the thread, someone usually has to just step up and bite the bullet . you stepped up before some of the others started bitching that there is no game thread

Your spelling mistakes today are epic red. What time did you start at? Mixing whisky and painkillers again?

[channtheman]

How much you guys wanna bet we run on first down again? Then on 2nd and 5 we run again? Then we pass on 3rd and 5?

[pbmax]

Slocum has to go. Giants are terrible at Special Teams and he just put three Giants in front of his returner.

[red]

how many times have we taken the ball out of the endzone this year and failed to get back to the 20?

its a high number

[Bossman641]

Anybody know our longest kr? Have we reached the 35 once?

[pittstang5]

When's the draft?

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

A lot of people have to go...

[Teamcheez1]

how many times have we taken the ball out of the endzone this year and failed to get back to the 20?

its a high number

Announcers said worst kick-off return game in the league.

[red]

Your spelling mistakes today are epic red. What time did you start at? Mixing whisky and painkillers again?

i think i was just waking up

brain takes a few hours to get cranking up to its usual slow speed

i'm borderline retarded for the first couple hours of the morning

[pittstang5]

Announcers said worst kick-off return game in the league.

I believe that

[pittstang5]

Ah, dropped passes. Next up, Int. for TD

[channtheman]

There ya go, we can throw downfield too.

[pbmax]

Have to use Starks and run zone because Giants have figured out Lacy's playbook.

Nice throw.

[red]

hey tolzien completed a pass

lets all bask in his greatness

[channtheman]

how many times have we taken the ball out of the endzone this year and failed to get back to the 20?

its a high number

Perhaps, every return?

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Okay!

[pbmax]

Starks is in and we have two big passes. I claim omniscience.

[Rutnstrut]

Holy shit two in a row.

[Bossman641]

There we go. Just chuck it

[King Friday]

hey tolzien completed a pass

Make that two.

At least he wasn't basking.

[Guiness]

Who's at center? That was a bad shotgun snap on the completion to Jordy.

Nice play action throw on the next play to Jones. Pretty handsy DB there.

[pbmax]

You gotta run zone stretch for Starks.

[channtheman]

Don't you guys just fucking love this bit?

MM feels comfortable opening up the entire playbook for Tolzien.

SO, our first 2 series are complete fucking pussy calls, run run shit pass. Finally, he opens it up and we move the ball downfield.

[King Friday]

seems like this is where we go into stall mode.

[red]

Have to use Starks and run zone because Giants have figured out Lacy's playbook.

Nice throw.

there you go smart ass. how's that work out for you?

[red]

need to go the other way guys

[pittstang5]

Why are we running it twice. FGs are not going to win this. C'mon Off.

[pbmax]

Who's at center? That was a bad shotgun snap on the completion to Jordy.

Nice play action throw on the next play to Jones. Pretty handsy DB there.

EDS

[channtheman]

That 2nd down call was... ugh. Red zone offense is awful. Get to the 15, don't take a single shot to the end zone.

[pittstang5]

STALL! What else is new

[Teamcheez1]

Good god MM, why run twice in a row?

[red]

worthless

M3 has no clue how to score TD's unless its a long busted play

[King Friday]

well, that was nice while it lasted.

[channtheman]

Shitty red zone offense.

[Tony Oday]

Good job MM making sure we slow down the offense, DC of the year?

[channtheman]

At least we maybe know we can throw the ball downfield now.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Another red zone stall out. Piss poor play calls all three downs.

[pbmax]

there you go smart ass. how's that work out for you?

Those backside dives are not his best run. Though if he gets a gap he can launch it. Better to give him and angle and let him cut.

[red]

and PB should be happy to know that that was starks 1 obligatory series of the game

[pbmax]

Good god MM, why run twice in a row?

Second one was an audible to something.

[pbmax]

and PB should be happy to know that that was starks 1 obligatory series of the game

They will need him again. But not for those plays.

[pbmax]

One good call by Slocum.

[Guiness]

More Banjo!

[red]

a-rod needs to ditch the mustache

he looks like a fucking pedophile on the sideline

[pbmax]

Play action, suck in a LB, throw it to the zone behind him.

[red]

wide open over the middle

ANDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Drink

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

a-rod needs to ditch the mustache

he looks like a fucking pedophile on the sideline

Yes, very very creepy...

[channtheman]

The no pressure on QB and still leaving at least 1 WR wide open has been a staple of Dom Capers defense for a few years now.

[Teamcheez1]

All day for Manning.

[pbmax]

Bad call.

[rdanomly]

Bullshit.

[channtheman]

Imagine that, Giants best run offense in the league against us!

[red]

OMG

someone take tramon out behind the woodshed when he gets home and put him down

and it doesn't have to be done humanely

[pbmax]

Jones slow to hole. Had free run and did not get there.

[Bossman641]

Fuck. Chance to back then up and change field position? Course not

[pittstang5]

Are they getting 10 yards at a time. sure seems it.

[King Friday]

This is becoming embarrassing. Can Capers be fired at halftime and they choose a DC out of the crowd?

[pbmax]

Jones having a bad game outside of one tackle on a rb pass.

[Rutnstrut]

Jones is a worthless pussy.

[red]

brad jones goes for a 7 yard ride

and hawk losses his helmet

AND.....

drink

[pittstang5]

Brown sis his best A. Peterson impression. Bounce it outside get 8 yards.

[pbmax]

House found the ball that time.

[pittstang5]

Should have been picked

[red]

there was talk after last weeks game about capers being fired ASAP

if he keeps this up, then the media better really be all over the "fire capers" bandwagon tomorrow

[pbmax]

Bad throw saves House. Got double moved.

[Guiness]

Nice play by House! Cruz had to fight to prevent the INT.

[channtheman]

This is becoming embarrassing. Can Capers be fired at halftime and they choose a DC out of the crowd?

I nominate this guy.

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/lol-packer-fan.jpg

[red]

house pulled a hammy

[pittstang5]

Pft, what's to think about. Go for it, they'll get it.

[pittstang5]

Pft, what's to think about. Go for it, they'll get it.

Yep

[red]

LOL

yeah, like we're gonna stop that

jacobs just moved 3 of our guys

[pittstang5]

another 9 yards or so.

[pbmax]

Manning knows where the blitz is coming from and throws right behind it.

[Teamcheez1]

10 yards off the receivers.

[pittstang5]

and we still can't tackle. What was that MM...oh, you'll fix that. Ok.

[channtheman]

If the Packers don't give up 10 yards a play, they give up 9 so that it's easy as hell to go for it. This defense is so fucking shitty. I can't believe we are actually watching this.

[red]

LOL

defense has officially given up

they're making the fucking Giants look like a super bowl team

[pittstang5]

Manning knows where the blitz is coming from and throws right behind it.

Maybe he's seen it before. Nah, can't be that.

[pittstang5]

LOL..we deflect passes and they still complete them. Oh good lord!!

[channtheman]

Well how bout that? Even when you make a play, I still wanna say fuck you, Tramon.

[Rutnstrut]

Holy fuck.

[Bossman641]

Finally!!!!

[red]

tramon handed a gift and almost fucks it up

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I wonder where we rank as greatest team collapse of all time?

[Guiness]

I think Tramon got hurt there.

[TravisWilliams23]

Tramon hasn't a clue where the hell the ball is.

[pittstang5]

HA Ha...so what. We'll do nothing with it. Probably give it right back to them.

[pbmax]

Nice pick by Twill. Sold out completely for it. Decent run back too.

Have to make it count and turn field position around.

[Rutnstrut]

Well how bout that? Even when you make a play, I still wanna say fuck you, Tramon.

Thanks, that made me spit Beam and Coke all over my laptop.

[pittstang5]

Hey, drinking during a game is soooo much fun, why didn't I do this before.

[Badgerinmaine]

I'd almost forgotten what a Packers pick looked like...heckuva leap to make that play.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Thanks, that made me spit Beam and Coke all over my laptop.

I've been spitting up all game so far...

[Joemailman]

Lighten up guys. Tramon made a nice break on the ball.

[channtheman]

FUCK YOU MM! Back to run run pass!

[pittstang5]

Uh, they know when we are going to run. We need to stop that.

[red]

here we go, let the national media declare tramon to be all world again

[channtheman]

FUCK YOU MM! Back to run run pass!

Glad I was wrong.

[Badgerinmaine]

I've been spitting up all game so far...
Need a bib? :razz:

[pittstang5]

Of course, we make a play, player goes down. Norm

[red]

bostik makes a big play

and gets hurt

got his head driven right into the ground

[Guiness]

Nice YAC by Bostick there.

[channtheman]

It's almost half time already? Fast game.

[KalamazooPackerFan]

What's with the runs up the gut? EDS is hurt and and it's not our strongest run play anyway.

[red]

Lighten up guys. Tramon made a nice break on the ball..

i think he was in so bad of a position that when the horribly throw ball got there, he was in the perfect spot

he then dove for and almost lost the ball to add some flair

[channtheman]

What's with the runs up the gut? EDS is hurt and and it's not our strongest run play anyway.

I honestly think that last run was just to get to the 2 minute warning. No one on the Packer side thought it would gain anything.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

What's with the runs up the gut? EDS is hurt and and it's not our strongest run play anyway.

Reflection on MM's creativity??

[TravisWilliams23]

Cullen is destroying EDS on runs.

[pittstang5]

I honestly think that last run was just to get to the 2 minute warning. No one on the Packer side thought it would gain anything.

ha ha. you're probably right too.

[Teamcheez1]

I honestly think that last run was just to get to the 2 minute warning. No one on the Packer side thought it would gain anything.

With a rookie QB, they should have run a play before the 2 min warning. I think we need all the time we can get.

[channtheman]

It Tolzien is calling audibles for these 2nd down runs, he needs to stop.

[pittstang5]

I bet MM just wants to run out the clock

[channtheman]

With a rookie QB, they should have run a play before the 2 min warning. I think we need all the time we can get.

I think the logic here is, we aren't going to score, so give the ball back to the Giants with less time.

[Guiness]

JPP with that weird facemask. I thought the NFL banned those?

[red]

"don't want to get too pass heavy with tolzien in there"

LOL

whats he completed, 3 passes? maybe attempted 6 or so in the half?